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This is an interesting list of course satoshi nakamoto would be numero uno. ;)
But the government of bulgaria has this much bitcoin? :o
How did they accumulate so much cheap electricity & mining since 2009 maybe and do they want to be the richest crypto country in the world?
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source https://twitter.com/BlocktownCap/status/1116008088337776642

These are the people/company that buy bitcoin since 2009 especially Satoshi Nakamoto who developed the bitcoin itself. I feel that this 2019, the value of bitcoin will explode and might have another good profit. I think these people on the list will hold until it reaches the maximum value that it can get. There are also people that is obviously being anonymous that isn't in the list. Even the highest peak on 2017, they didn't sell any bitcoin is still hold the bitcoin, they know that the highest value on 2017 wasn't the maximum.

You should have included me on the list  :D , am not surprise seeing your list with potential investors( both Individuals and Companies). Basically, there is much to what we are seeing right now, becasue most of these governments that invested on Bitcoin would like to see the price of Bitcoin soaring higher to another All Time High (ATH).

I cry for my country, becasue they aren't part of the New Billionaire list, if the price of Bitcoin explode. Will hurry up and pass the information to my kings men for immediate action as well, or not to be part of this new rising Billionaire in the world of Bitcoin.

Me being a Newbie means alot of concern to me, becasue am not sure if my rank will allow me to participate in Signature Campaigns if the explosion happen. I envy those with high rank account, which are going to make more Thousands of Dollars within a short frame of time. How i wish i could be like you guys!

They would only become billionaires if they actually sold all of their BTC which they most probably won't. They might sell a couple of them here and there through OTC solutions to not affect the BTC value and majority of them can retire by selling only a couple of BTC.

If bitcoin exploded, you will be seeing tons of billionaires in the market. I don't think the price of bitcoin will be reaching $250,000 USD any time soon. Let's not talk about the price reaching $1,000.000 USD per bitcoin. I am pretty sure we won't be seeing this price even after several decades (but who knows  ;)). Looks like the top list people (and the government) are quite well known by most people!

I'm sure that there are bigger investors whose names aren't on the list because they seek privacy.
These Bitcoin billionaires are top investors in crypto world so we can't question their success especially if they have bought bitcoins at an early time. It's inspiring if we are just able to buy tons of bitcoins as an investment, we will surely be on top of the list as well.

Sometimes people talk like reaching $250,000 and $1mil is no big deal, but even $20,000 lasted only for a few days. Sure the price keeps growing, but there's no guarantee that it will keep going that way forever, it may plateau at some point and retrace back. I think the next ATH, even it if will be above $100,000 will be short-lived, just like the previous ones, so these new billionaires will be at the top of the list for a small period of time. Also, the amounts of Bitcoin's in this list are quite speculative, no one knows for sure how many coins Satoshi has, and whether he'll ever access them, the Bulgaria governments coins also might not be there at all.

They would be crypto rich lets say then.
But yes comparative to the usd fiat system which will be gone once regulation has been sorted out and this congressman who wants to ban bitcoin and crypto in general is gone from office in the states. ;)

They might be holding those huge number of Bitcoins because they have invested since 2009 which we have missed. We still got the chance to be like them but the difference is we still have to work for it since a single bitcoin now has a bigger value compared to the price when they have bought theirs.

an interesting idea to keep in mind as well is that most governments will be taxing bitcoin to fiat transactions immensely, so think of all the governments that will either ruin our exit points with immense taxation, or think of how nice it would be if governments ever eased off crypto-currency so that there could be better financial situations for those that end up exiting and trying to do it the nice, "legal" way.

Roger Ver is fucked in the head. I am fairly sure that he converted most of his BTC holdings to BCash, which explains why he is hardcore pushing it in people's face.

People also keep saying that the Bulgarian government holds over 200,000BTC, yet no one has a clue where even a single coin is, let alone the rest. There is nothing but a few vague articles stating they have seized that many coins. I get it that people love these stories, but what are they worth when most of these stories are made up or largely incorrect?

In the end, most of the entities on that list are rich already. I find it much more interesting to see the smaller fishes become large fishes as time goes by. :)

Yes he is and I wouldnt doubt he will just state one day "I am satoshi! ;D" just to spite craig wright. ;)
Ah it makes sense if they seized them and didnt buy/mine them.
China might as well be on this list of countries with the most bitcoin by 2021. ::)

you are missing mark karpeles

^^ Mark is missing in action.
Nobody knows where he is. :D
Besides he has someone who is distributing the lost bitcoins holding it for him. ;)

Bulgaria is a great place to have bitcoin they look like a supportive government and yes maybe they really see a big potential with bitcoin since 2009 and for sure if they are the only government who holds more bitcoin i think they will become the world riches country who holds bitcoin for a long years.

Is that true the government of Bulgaria has a large amount of bitcoin?
I cannot believe that because no one was expecting to see the government of Bulgaria has in the second position of the list although the rank is N/A.
So we don't know who is the number third and the rest of the list?
That is interesting to know how much of bitcoin people have, and some of them become famous for making news of bitcoin.
I think the other people who are not on the list still hiding without anyone knows.

you are also missing the fed that auctioned the silk road coins to themselves.

Roger Ver looking at this list probably saddens him or at least he don't regret his decision. While looking at list, here I am a total shrimp that doesn't have much.   ;D

I think this stats was already made before and I've read about Bulgaria that they hold that much and for the US gov't, probably those bitcoins are stored on/by CIA. Well that list doesn't include the cold/hot storage that big exchanges have.

Yeah the exchanges surely have more and for sure there are some unknown billionaire,
We don't know maybe there are some who just doesn't want publicity but also have a huge amount of Bitcoin.

i call bullshit on that list. and it seems like yet another newly created group or business on the internet trying to seem educated in bitcoin. most of those numbers are completely random and i am sticking to my statement unless i can find proof out of them which doesn't exist. the fact that it states these numbers are based on "various reports and public statements" is vague enough specially when you see the 1.1 million for Satoshi!


i disagree. Roger Ver understands the potential of bitcoin probably more than most people. that is why he tried the take over, that is why he created BCH and i am sure that he owns a lot more bitcoin than he owns BCash.
pushing BCash is just a technique to earn more money.

i find it amazing that a guy that no one know even exist or if its one person or a group might become the richest in the world, from creating a digital currency, if you think about it it sounds like something from a hollywood movie :D

Or very a cleaver exit strategy with reverse social engineering, either way whoever it was deserves to be the richest person in the world. They literally saved the mankind from their own kind. Banker, Government or not.

Koko the great ape could of made it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVuNTiqHys0 (yah I know she did not say this, but she could of got there)

A remarkable list, this gives a positive impression that bitcoin is indeed valuable. It's true they have saved us from various problems with finance, banks, and the government. We will explore bitcoin for the future.

Most of those who's holding the huge amount of bitcoin still wanted to serve the purpose, being anonymous and keep their personalities hidden from this known world, the industry is now being recognized and those people from the list are surely are the early investors who believes deeply from this chain, they are the most gainers and keep their success being enjoyed in whatever sense they taking it.

In my own opinion, this may not really be a verified list but nonetheless the fact is that many holders will indeed be getting rich when Bitcoin will finally do the wished bull run. I am surprised that there are three governments on the list...and this is telling us that even governments stand to benefit out of Bitcoin. I am sensing that many big and small holders of Bitcoin are right now taking notice and many are thinking of adding more on to their hoard. And this can create more excitement on the market fueling more fire to the belly of Bitcoin.

Satoshi does not need to work to earn, he can enjoy his life with all the money he got.
This is a real passive income, as the demand increases they will make more money from it, maybe 10 years from
now, the top riches people in the world will be coming all from the crypto industry, of course the early adopters.

if I didn't know any better I would have said that Satoshi is still among us and is mining bitcoin because every time someone comes up with a new estimation of how many bitcoin Satoshi owns the number they come up with seems to be rising. so far there is a whopping 300k-400k bitcoin rise in the guessed value. so I guess if we get a couple more of these guessworks we can see Satoshi's bitcoin stash to reach 21 million cap too :P

They are very lcuky and Im not surprised Satoshi Nakamoto is number 1 in the list because of course he is the creator of the bitcoin so they have a lot of bitcoins. But for those people who are billionaire I think they trust to the bitcoin since birth of this coin until now because they will get more profit or they are now billionaire so they will bought bitcoin at very low price maybe only 1 digit or cents.

There will be so many bitcoin billionaire's in the new bull run and China is going to top the list and other politicians who have stollen government found and trying to invest it in a decentralized network and turn around to criticize bitcoin in public. Am happy for this recent raise in the price of bitcoin and so many new billionaires.

Wow, interesting list, did not know Bulgarian government has been stashing BTC so heavily lol

I thought that the US government would have at least more bitcoins than the Bulgarian government considering how much bitcoins they have gotten from the closure of so many illegal operations that included people using bitcoins. Example is the recent closure of deepdotweb and when silkroad was cancelled back in the day.

these numbers are very potential in taking advantage when bitcoin price skyrocketing. but what if they/he/him or an institution sells the whole coin isn't that a btc big dump, if that happens I can't imagine a very sharp prices fall, btc price may collapse. their coins that they have are very influential with global market prices whether they keep for invest or sold. iam not sure what their strategies in the future in managing coins for price stability.

How does one know these ppl have this much?


Also if some guy like roger has this much, why does he not just do his own thing instead of tweeting etc all the time etc. 

OMG those people including satoshi are too rich to be true but do you think they are still holding this amount I'm thinking that how do they get that data?

If this is real they are now rich and they can do what ever they want.

Satoshi nakamoto is one of the richest and I think he is laughing what happen on bitcoin right now and maybe his always having fun with ladies.

If satoshi is still able to access his coins, he's probably not looking at what the current price is doing. If he didn't bother to care during the 2017 bull run with an all time high of $20k, why will he right now at a silly $7k?

It's more so that the "hodlers" here are enjoying the run up because they were almost losing it when we were bottoming out close to the $3000 mark. I'm sure a sub $3000 visit would have made a lot of them dump hard.

I wonder if the holdings of Satoshi Nakamoto is a one person only or it is a team. If it is owned by one person only, he/she is very lucky that he was able to launch bitcoin as he don't have to work anymore for the rest of his life.

I didn't thought also that Bulgaria will be able to hold 213,519 bitcoins but they are very interesting to follow if this information is genuine. Acquiring this amount is very incredible especially if they have acquired this bitcoin amount from mining only. And I am shock that US have 10k bitcoins only even though there are big exchanges that were launch from US. I wonder if 10k was base in mining only.

That's really a good data, and probably we could see much more bitcoins in these persons wallet, exchanges will also be having a good number of bitcoins with them. As of now even after the hack of 7000 bitcoin it is possible form them to provide users the stolen fund from the reserve. Though 7000 stands down to the top, there is possibility for mode personalities to hold much bigger volume of bitcoins.

But... when bitcoin will reach 1M or even 250k USD :D
Jeff bezoz and other top richest man won't let this happen i think haha
Also it's impossible to reach even 100k if the crypto itself is not mainstream in this world yet.

This for sure arent people only who recently bought bitcoin in the market,im pretty sure they are the first investors who hoarded bitcoins since 2009,i can just say wow in bulgarian government having that much bitcoin count on them that country will boom in economy once bitcoin hits its ultimate ATH

I guess the list mainly focused with few people rather than a companies total assets.

There are for sure few people that are just lowkey and never want to let themselves exposed on how much they had and potential they can had more than what these people on the list. And with this list: https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-bitcoin-addresses.html those addresses are just probably split into many, who knows?

Exactly! I mean,,, yes Bitcoin has done about 110% since all time lows, but if you are talking about x2.2 to make 1 billion, it means you had to buy $450 million at the low. So that kind of makes you already a billionaire if you had that much money.

I do not think the Bulgarian government really has that much though. If they did,,, they would have sold some at ATH of $20k do you not think so?

I would be more interested in knowing how many bitcoins are owned by Patrick M. Byrne and also Overstock, because they have already shown that they are early supporters of this technology and that they are hoarding Bitcoin & Silver & Gold.  8)

There are also loads of early adopters that are not listed and these people might be hoarding more coins that are listed, but they just stay in the shadows to avoid the limelight and the security problems that might occur, if they revealed their Bitcoin ownership.  :P

How lucky they are, they will not sell it before the highest price of bitcoin come. they don't need to sell everything to pay for their living needs after all. of course if they sell all their assets will have a bad impact on the market value.

That is just shortlist, Bitcoin has a total supply 21 millions, of course there are still many anonymous users who hold tens of thousands bitcoin as well.

Back on the early days  , mining that time is not yet difficult because cryptos such as bitcoin arent also really popular. Hardware mining is also cheap as well as the electricity and most importantly , the price of bitcoin is also verry cheap  .   they mined it or maybe they just buy it directly using their cold cash as a part of thier investment   . its not really shocking or surprising at all in my part   .

It seems the list you provided was just based on assumption for reason being that no evidence to show that they really own such amount of Bitcoin apart from the suorce where you get this information from.

The list, although interesting, has no value because there's a good chance that the data there is incorrect or incomplete. And nobody is backing it for real, it seems.
Another things is interesting to read between the lines: a bunch of new super rich people will arise, people with fresh ideas about how to make business, people with a good chance to change how the things work today.

Of course, not all of those guys have a healthy thinking imho, which is a shame, but we can't have everything. It is, however, a start for the change.

This list shocked me. I could never guess that the Bulgarian government owns such a great amount of Bitcoin. Even the USA government does not have so much. However, I think we will never learn all the truth.

We have to look at ourselves first. How much will our wealth be when the Bitcoin reaches this price? The answer is no one
Unfortunately, I think there is no one who can keep the currency until it reaches that price , But governments and some investors can do it easily

Lol it was clearly says that it was only estimated and nothing is accurate so basically this is not exactly true,remember bitcoin is decentralized and anonymous so where in the world that Bulgaria became the second top holders of bitcoin while Japan wasn’t even mentioned?sorry but I will not believe this though this sounds positive for the whole bitcoin fanatic worldwide

We would become a new billionaire if bitcoin exploded because no matter how much bitcoin we have, we still make a lot of money from bitcoin. That list is only a prediction on who will become a billionaire in the next bull market that might happen, and I am sure that many others could be on that list. But I am amazed to see the list and seeing on how much bitcoin they have because if bitcoin is really exploded, we cannot imagine how much money they will have and how if they sell all of the bitcoin they have.

Your list lacks Bitman. This is a big company that owns a larger amount of Bitcoin than anyone on your list

Indeed Bulgaria has some good amount of bitcoin, the question is they only have the hard disks where the bitcoin are stored, or they also have the private keys and they can use bitcoin when they want?

Thanks for list, some rich people will become more rich.

Can anyone provide me a solid link for the source(s) that Bulgaria Government is hodling over BTC200k?
I am much interested to read and learn more about how they accumulated that much bitcoins. If it is true then Bulgaria is the most bitcoin-friendly country.

This is an interesting list but I'm not sure how accurate this is. I mean we can't know for sure if Bulgaria or US government really own that much bitcoin since there is no real proof to that. Also all of those calculations are based only if the price of bitcoin would reach at least $250.000 and that's something we are cannot even dream about right now.

Satoshi might be having a hell lot of coins than what is known to the public and in the earlier days when the block reward was 50 bitcoin he was the only person mining until others joined and the main reason he did not move the coins from these public known wallets is simply because he mine other coins as well, if not he would have moved the coins when the price touched all time high valuation, then there is another puzzle whether he has the keys to those initial coins, either way the list looks cool :).

The most interesting item on the list to me is Bulgaria. I wonder where the country will stand in the next 20-30 years. With so much Bitcoin I think the country can prosper for a long time.

I read in local news, that BTC enthusiasm in Bulgaria was dominated by elites.  all who participate in BTC transactions have college degrees.  and public enthusiasm in Bulgaria made BTC the main currency.  so the Bulgarian government provides ATM BTC in every place.  especially in the center of Bulgaria.

Examples like these are great.  The state made the BTC as an alternative currency to the state currency.  We need such examples, where state helps society.  But I think the state should be charging some fee in that case.