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Economy => Games and rounds => Topic started by: anbu_haku on March 13, 2014, 04:23:04 PM



Title: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: anbu_haku on March 13, 2014, 04:23:04 PM
The 50/50 Game
Double or Nothing

Hi BTC Lovers,

Please DO NOT trust me!  :o

.. but I wish to start a game that doubles your bet with a 50/50 chance  ;D So let's start small & if it turns out OK, I'll create a proper site for it once I've established trust within the forum & have a sizeable pot. Here we go!

Steps to Participate:

  • Reply this thread with your bet in this format: BTC0.001 LOW or BTC0.001 HIGH
  • Send your bet amount to 1NZqVuzVkUGUk6wcdnk7QX8ZwRK93WzART (The 50/50 Game Pot)
  • Copy your Transaction ID ("TID")
  • Quote your bet post earlier & reply with your TID
  • I will manually make confirmations & do a simple calculation on the first 8 characters of the TID based on the calculation rules below
  • If you bet BTC0.001 HIGH & calculation result > 60, you win & I will send BTC0.002 either from Pot or Reserve
  • If you bet BTC0.001 LOW & calculation result > 60, you lose & get nothing

The Rules

  • The 50/50 Game Reserve: ~ BTC0.014 (as of 13/04/14)
  • Minimum Bet: BTC0.001
  • Maximum Bet: BTC0.002 (will increase when Reserve increases)
  • Editted bet post are not accepted. If you wish to change a bet, delete original post & make a new bet post
  • Bets will be verified against transaction's timestamp & confirmation
  • Ensure that the timestamp for your bet post in BT is before transaction's timestamp
  • Give me at least 24-48 hours for verification & payout (will give notice in thread if otherwise)
  • No Refunds
  • Transaction ID Conversion Table:

    TID CharacterConvert To
    0 - 90 - 9
    A10
    B11
    C12
    D13
    E14
    F15

TID Result Calculation

  • TID's 1st 8 characters lowest possible result: 00000000
  • TID's 1st 8 characters highest possible Result: FFFFFFFF
  • Convert TID's 1st 8 characters as per table above & calculate the total sum from each value
  • Minimum Calculation Result: 0
  • Maximum Calculation Result: 120
  • Low Bid Result: 0 - 60
  • High Bid Result: 61 - 120

Calculation Example
  • TID Result: D7A50CBF
  • TID Conversion: (13)D 7 (10)A 5 0 (12)C (11)B (15)F
  • TID Calculate: 13+7+10+5+0+12+11+15
  • TID Calculation Result (Bet Result): 73
  • Win if bet HIGH, Lose if bet LOW

Funds Allocation
  • Winning bets are DOUBLED (e.g. Bet BTC0.001, Get BTC0.002)
  • Winnings are given from the Pot or Reserve
  • Lossing bets will split 50/50 (i.e. 50% Pot, 50% Reserve)
  • The 50/50 Game Pot is public -- used for the game's continuation & growth
  • The 50/50 Game Reserve is private -- my personal gains or used for payout if Pot has BTC0

Good Luck! ;D

ANBU Haku

P/s: Senior or Trusted BTC member, please quote OP. I will only make minor changes & regular updates for the Reserve amount & maximum bets. Thank you.


Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: Kyraishi on March 13, 2014, 04:27:07 PM
24 hours waiting for a such small amount bet?
you must be kidding aren't you?
sorry but me, I can't wait long.


Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: anbu_haku on March 13, 2014, 04:27:39 PM
I'm doing this in hopes to build trust & make profit in the long run. Hence having a very low bet amount.

Hope it is cool with you all  ;)


Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: anbu_haku on March 13, 2014, 04:36:27 PM
24 hours waiting for a such small amount bet?
you must be kidding aren't you?
sorry but me, I can't wait long.

Since I am not able to be in front of the screen constantly, I'm giving myself that much time to check the thread, verify bets & make payouts. I do apologies if its too long.

My long term goal, is to have a proper site with the same rules with a semi-auto or auto-payout feature. So while I'm learning to understand and create the daemon/program for the site, I thought why not get the game started in BT first  ;)


Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: Kyraishi on March 13, 2014, 04:38:15 PM
24 hours waiting for a such small amount bet?
you must be kidding aren't you?
sorry but me, I can't wait long.

Since I am not able to be in front of the screen constantly, I'm giving myself that much time to check the thread, verify bets & make payouts. I do apologies if its too long.

My long term goal, is to have a proper site with the same rules with a semi-auto or auto-payout feature. So while I'm learning to understand and create the daemon/program for the site, I thought why not get the game started in BT first  ;)

okay I understand, but are you planning to do more than double? maybe triple ?


Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: Buziss on March 13, 2014, 04:38:32 PM
So the result is solely based on the Tx ID, right?
And, you know we can check the Tx ID before broadcasting the Tx, right?




Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: Kyraishi on March 13, 2014, 04:39:50 PM
So the result is solely based on the Tx ID, right?
And, you know we can check the Tx ID before broadcasting the Tx, right?




really?


Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: Buziss on March 13, 2014, 04:40:49 PM
So the result is solely based on the Tx ID, right?
And, you know we can check the Tx ID before broadcasting the Tx, right?




really?

I guess you are referring to my second line...
And yes, we can easily do that...


Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: anbu_haku on March 13, 2014, 04:45:06 PM
okay I understand, but are you planning to do more than double? maybe triple ?

Its a possibility. Thanks for the idea  ;) but instead of using the 1st 8 character, the rule would be to use the 1st 16th character of ID to increase the difficulity.


Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: anbu_haku on March 13, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
So the result is solely based on the Tx ID, right?
And, you know we can check the Tx ID before broadcasting the Tx, right?

True, but in order to have a "valid" bet you would need to have an uneditted post bet in this thread before executing the Tx



Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: Buziss on March 13, 2014, 04:56:56 PM
So the result is solely based on the Tx ID, right?
And, you know we can check the Tx ID before broadcasting the Tx, right?

True, but in order to have a "valid" bet you would need to have an uneditted post bet in this thread before executing the Tx



Guess you misunderstood my point.

Say I make a reply "High", and I will create a tx to your address.
Before broadcasting the tx, I will check if I will win with it.
If not, I will create another tx with another input so that it will have a different tx id, and check if I will win; and so on.



Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: Buziss on March 13, 2014, 05:00:03 PM
So there are only 2 possible outcomes IMHO:

1. You run with all the money, and all bettors lose their money.
2. All (or at least most) of the bettors win their bets, and you lose your money.


Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: anbu_haku on March 13, 2014, 05:04:43 PM
Thanks Buziss for highlighting it, I really didn't know about that & yes, I did miss the point about that "broadcasting".

Need to come up with another provably fair method of doing this than.

Thanks again!!  ;D

To others:


Please do not make any bets yet!  :o


Title: Re: The 50/50 Game | Double or Nothing | Min: 0.001 / Max: 0.002 | 200% Payout
Post by: Buziss on March 16, 2014, 03:31:17 AM
Thanks Buziss for highlighting it, I really didn't know about that & yes, I did miss the point about that "broadcasting".

Thanks again!!  ;D

You are welcome.

Need to come up with another provably fair method of doing this than.

You may want to take a look how other on-chain gambling sites (such as SatoshiDice or luckyb.it) works.