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Title: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: ttcsalam on May 13, 2019, 02:39:12 AM
 :'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: asriloni on May 13, 2019, 02:48:30 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.
I have been putting less in altcoin dude and the fact that my bitcoin and some of my altcoins get increase a lot of when there are some get decrease too. But I'm feeling better when I still have a masternode coin to backup my portfolios are getting rekt. You must be patience for that and I believe the price of your altcoin will increase again but what kind of altcoin that you have invested? Why you are putting less on bitcoin?
Just curious about your story and it will be interesting.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: sanida on May 13, 2019, 02:54:17 AM
Maybe you choose the wrong Altcoin to hodl, or maybe you just run out of luck. nevertheless you should be patient in the time like this. the more bitcoin will increase it price the chances you will get to get back your capital. as long as BTC will have a bull run this year you can just wait for your altcoins to pump up to. at this time you don't have a choice left in your hand but to hodl it longer.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: vit05 on May 13, 2019, 02:55:26 AM
These movements are standardized. Most of the times the Alts follow the rise of Bitcoin. But at other times this occurs, Bitcoin increases in price and the Alts stand still or fall in price. Soon after the price of Bitcoin finds a resistance, the price of the Ats goes up a lot.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 13, 2019, 03:42:59 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.

How long have been in the market though? Did you invest during the bear market?

You have to understand that it works on a cycle, that's why you will hear people saying "HODL". I guess you have to wait a bit further and have patience.

The price of alts is decreasing because investors shifts their funds to bitcoin ecosystem now. Most of the time that's how investors reacts, moving their funds to where the money is.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Irvinn on May 13, 2019, 03:50:17 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.
The market has been bearish for too long. Therefore, many altcoins are still very poorly responsive to the growth of Bitcoin. For now, we need patience. Over time, the altcoins will grow, even when Bitcoin has already stopped in its growth. Therefore, it is not necessary to get rid of altcoins. They can sometimes end up with much more profit than bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Caladonian on May 13, 2019, 03:54:45 AM
Your case is also the same with many alts investors as bitcoin still dominating the market, opportunist who deal with day trades are enjoying but real investors will keep holding and if fate allowed them to have spare money being a believers they will buy more and accumulates even in this type of
situations, they are believing that time will come and everything will be paid off.

If you have trust with those coins that you currently have , just continue holding and let the cycle happen, it will bounce back and bring good fortune to your investment be positive.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: freedomgo on May 13, 2019, 04:03:03 AM
The thread title seems confusing, we can easily understand it if you will change it to Bitcoin vs Altcoins, not Altar coins.




:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.

Your patience will be tested, most altcoins are still not bullish, but bitcoin being bullish is a good sign that sooner or later they will also pump.
Being down 20% is not the worst, with my altcoins, at one point,  I was down to 10% only.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: passwordnow on May 13, 2019, 04:18:09 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.
Sorry for your disappointment but that's the wrong strategy you've been doing as for investing to cryptocurrency. You are focused mostly with alts and you forgot to hit your bag with many bitcoin. This is the reason why when someone keeps on talking about alts, if he asks some suggestions on how he can make his bag better, I'm suggesting to start picking and adding up more bitcoin on his stash. Just learn from this lesson that don't go all in with alts, much better with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Lakai01 on May 13, 2019, 04:32:12 AM
Your patience will be tested, most altcoins are still not bullish, but bitcoin being bullish is a good sign that sooner or later they will also pump.
Being down 20% is not the worst, with my altcoins, at one point,  I was down to 10% only.
It depends on what altcoins we are talking about. People tend to invest in minor projects hoping for "the next bitcoin", which wobt happen again. 99% of all alts are useless with either no real purpose or no working product. Those coins will definitly vanish in the next bull run because money flows into BTC directly.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Nivia1st on May 13, 2019, 04:32:54 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.
because next time always pay attention to what you buy. but calm down it will improve later, this is common when bitcoin increases. I also feel it for some of the altcoins that I hold. and I think today has begun to change, so once again calm down.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: wheelz1200 on May 13, 2019, 04:36:56 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.

Most altcoins will tend to fall off you cant be too surprised about that. With that being said patience is key if you are sitting on some good coins.  Markets are very fragile and you dont want to sell low


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: insidertradingeverywhere on May 13, 2019, 05:12:48 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.
Today the market completely repeats the movement of bitcoins, while the growth of bitcoins - coins fall in value, after a while they begin to pull up. In order not to miss this opportunity, and just sit and look at the slow current growth, you need to make a profit on time - you can earn not only on growth, but also on correction, it is not at all difficult. just make an effort and learn how to trade, now a lot of information on this topic


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: BitcoinHodler on May 13, 2019, 11:27:55 AM
don't be disappointed. just learn from the mistakes that you have made so far in altcoin market. next time you wanted to buy an altcoin and bag hold it indefinitely think of this case and all the previous times that you lost money because of bag holding some altcoin thinking it has long term potential.

this is not new either. for as long as the altcoin market existed people have been making similar mistakes mainly because they are misled by the pumpers who always encourage them to bag hold the altcoins they are dumping so that they can get the best price out of the market without anybody else interfering with it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: krisnajsadrak on May 13, 2019, 11:35:32 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.

if in your bag is a good altcoins, you don't have to be worry
because the bull has started now, and remember bitcoin will always become the market leader, wich mean bitcoin price will growing first then altcoins will follow after my friend


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: richminded on May 13, 2019, 11:41:02 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.
Being disappointed with your shitcoin investment is very normal and its sad to see many people are trap on that kind of coins. Look at the top altcoins, they are pumping because bitcoin is pumping too. Better to sell that coin as much as possible, save all your money and don't invest on shitcoins for you not to feel the disappointment learn from that one.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Wintersoldier on May 13, 2019, 12:54:39 PM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.

do you know what is really disappointing? It is when, you accumulate large number of bitcoins and 1 week right before this massive increase, you've sold all of it. What a wast of fortune right? I don't know how I can handle this, if I buy now, I just made my self poorer than a beggar in the market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: sandra_1 on May 13, 2019, 01:17:40 PM
Maybe you have invested in the wrong time or in the wrong crypto? There are several altcoins which will be growing, despite of Bitcoin's behaviour. I'm really into ICON and FuturoCoin recently. To be honest, it's not always great and not always your investments are profitable. Cryptocurrencies are not a stable market.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: ub27 on May 13, 2019, 01:19:36 PM
I'm not disappointed right now with the market situation, I'm very excited. I'm holding 60% of my portfolio in BTC and 40% in altcoins. I also know that there will be an uptrend for altcoins when bitcoin starts moving sideways. So please my candid advice will be : don't panic sell those altcoins, you will definitely regret it. Hold for the green days.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: freedomgo on May 13, 2019, 01:56:02 PM
Your patience will be tested, most altcoins are still not bullish, but bitcoin being bullish is a good sign that sooner or later they will also pump.
Being down 20% is not the worst, with my altcoins, at one point,  I was down to 10% only.
It depends on what altcoins we are talking about. People tend to invest in minor projects hoping for "the next bitcoin", which wobt happen again. 99% of all alts are useless with either no real purpose or no working product. Those coins will definitly vanish in the next bull run because money flows into BTC directly.

I am definitely referring to majority of the altcoins or in general price.
ETH is a major coin and it dump more than 10 times, and we are like holding a 20% or less on its price compared to its ATH.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Mr Zet on May 13, 2019, 02:03:52 PM
Maybe you have invested in the wrong time or in the wrong crypto? There are several altcoins which will be growing, despite of Bitcoin's behaviour. I'm really into ICON and FuturoCoin recently. To be honest, it's not always great and not always your investments are profitable. Cryptocurrencies are not a stable market.

True words. Everybody who starts trading should be aware of potential risk.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: maydna on May 13, 2019, 02:07:12 PM
I think you are not alone to feel that because many others will have the same thing as you. In the last year, we are focusing on saving more amount in altcoin, and we are not selling the most of altcoin we have and convert it into bitcoin. That is a great lesson for us to not repeat the same mistake in the future.

So related to your situations, I think what you need to do right now is only hold the altcoin until the price can increase although it cannot increase higher, at least, you can get bitcoin from the altcoin. I know that it will make you disappointed to see how much amount of bitcoin you will get but at least, you can have bitcoin and you can sell bitcoin when it increases. This time will be on bitcoin first, and then the altcoin will follow to increase, just be patient for more.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Adriano2010 on May 13, 2019, 02:18:30 PM
I also happen the same thing as you OP, the price of my altcoins which last time when bitcoin was over 7000$ value more than 2$ for 1 coin and now value is 0.59$, i don't know yet what chance is to have a bull run like on 2017.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: akamit on May 13, 2019, 09:17:42 PM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.
Just be patient! This is the only key to success in cryptoverse. If you are not patient enough then leave cryptoverse with your 80% loss and don't come back again.

Currently, peoples are bullish on bitcoin as the price is moving upwards without stop last few days.
So nothing to worry imo, everything will come to normal when it is the right time. Let bitcoin settle in a price position first, it will be good for every one of us and also for the altcoins, your altcoins.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Twinkledoe on May 13, 2019, 09:32:49 PM
I also happen the same thing as you OP, the price of my altcoins which last time when bitcoin was over 7000$ value more than 2$ for 1 coin and now value is 0.59$, i don't know yet what chance is to have a bull run like on 2017.

If you invested in a shit coin, the chance of recovering is very hard. Especially, if the dev team is not showing any progress on their timeline. You need to get out from that situation and sell whatever you can. At least get something rather than nothing. You need to get the pulse of the altcoins that you are holding. If it is already hopeless, don't wait for a miracle to happen. Because it never will.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: blokklanc on May 13, 2019, 11:49:47 PM
We remember in 2017 that BTC has started the bull run and other alts has followed. First, BTC  market dominance went to
67% and then decreased to  35%. We could have similar scenario this year, but I think that this year only the best
alts will follow BTC rise as the investors are much more experienced and cautious as they were earlier.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: rijaljun on May 13, 2019, 11:56:03 PM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.
It's weird to see someone feels disappointed by a bull market. Usually people get upset when they lose money on a bear market.  ;D ;D ;D
It's probably only you who get a loss instead of a big profit on a bull market. You should not be disappointed anyway, there will be a time for altcoins to show their performances. You might lose your portofolio value on Bitcoin, but you won't lose your value in fiat, I'm sure.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: pey on May 14, 2019, 12:20:39 AM
It depends on which altcoins you are talking about, not all altcoins rise together. Lots of people don't realize that if you hold altcoins, depending on the altcoins, there is high chance it will end up bad.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Remainder on May 14, 2019, 02:14:14 AM
It depends on which altcoins you are talking about, not all altcoins rise together. Lots of people don't realize that if you hold altcoins, depending on the altcoins, there is high chance it will end up bad.
The decision to hold was in the past when ICO was still profitable and popular, because of the long bear market, we were able to witness how it performed and some really dump hard more than 90% and for people who don't understands crypto, they will think it has no chance to recover.
For me, this is not serious as it could pump again..

Well, let's just look ETH and watch if it will recover now, it's been dump hard as well.
Market will change, Bitcoin pump will not continue without the support of altcoins, so both are expected to show some good progress this year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: redsun114 on May 15, 2019, 05:09:59 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.
I don't think the price of altcoins are decreasing unless I might not be taking note and need to make a research about the price of coins in the market in order to draw a conclusion. I know we are not seeing the price of so many altcoins go up due to this recent bull run in the price of bitcoin, but I believe that in no time when the main bull run begins, we would see the price of altcoins going up since bitcoin is going up already.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: BlueStackz on May 15, 2019, 08:07:05 AM
:'( The price of bit coins is increasing. The price of the alt coins is decreasing. There was some investment in my alarms. Which is now almost zero in capital. Only 20% of the total investment is left now. In my absence, I am getting very disappointed day after day. I think many people like me are so disappointed.
If you really have been following the market in the time past, you will know that this is usually the ways of altcoins, I dint know where we got that ideas from that altcoins must always follow bitcoin and the fact they are not following bitcoin means they are dead.

What do we call BTC dominance, it is a time where all investment focus are all on bitcoin, and altcoins gets little or no investment, wherein majority of people that cannot afford to change extra fiat to BTC to enjoy the pump profit Changes their altcoins to bitcoin in the meantime, which they will definitely put back before the altcoins season, so there is a time for the alts too and it’s not now, when the time comes, you will know, even that dead coin of yours will rise.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Bitbtc8 on May 15, 2019, 08:16:47 AM
The fact is its not altcoins season yet ,it will still takes time before altcoins start surging in price ,your prayers now should be that bitcoin should keep the bulls alive for a while then alts won't have choice but to follow the uptrend ,my advice is to have patience for awhile all altcoins will soon start surging


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: davinchi on May 15, 2019, 09:25:34 AM
Your patience will be tested, most altcoins are still not bullish, but bitcoin being bullish is a good sign that sooner or later they will also pump.
Being down 20% is not the worst, with my altcoins, at one point,  I was down to 10% only.
It depends on what altcoins we are talking about. People tend to invest in minor projects hoping for "the next bitcoin", which wobt happen again. 99% of all alts are useless with either no real purpose or no working product. Those coins will definitly vanish in the next bull run because money flows into BTC directly.
I use to make this mistake before, I look for very cheap altcoins to acquire much of them and hoping that one day, they will amount to millions of dollars, but I tend to forget that the price is not what matters, but how valuable the product is, most of those low coins with extremely low volumes simply don’t have any working product that will help push them forward.

The real altcoins are fully responding to bitcoin, take a look at ethereum, ethereum increases from $174 to almost close to $190 so as other alts like BNB, EOS, MTC responded, so there are some coins we just have to forget and look for good alts even if they are expensive to buy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: Supercrypt on May 15, 2019, 04:43:24 PM
It depends on which altcoins you are talking about, not all altcoins rise together. Lots of people don't realize that if you hold altcoins, depending on the altcoins, there is high chance it will end up bad.
The decision to hold was in the past when ICO was still profitable and popular, because of the long bear market, we were able to witness how it performed and some really dump hard more than 90% and for people who don't understands crypto, they will think it has no chance to recover.
For me, this is not serious as it could pump again..

Well, let's just look ETH and watch if it will recover now, it's been dump hard as well.
Market will change, Bitcoin pump will not continue without the support of altcoins, so both are expected to show some good progress this year.
You know, some of us just keep blaming these projects as though all of them have no working products, but many investors fails to blame themselves on their own personal dumping attitude which is what usually discourage some of these projects with great intention and eventually make them become shitcoins in the market value but in reality, they already have a working product. Some of these alts usually picks up during the alts season, so I even prefer to invest in alts that has being dumped hard but as a working products, those ones really stands the chance of increasing very high during the bull run.


Title: Re: Bitcoin vs Altar Coins = 20% Capital
Post by: BryanK on May 18, 2019, 07:27:29 PM
It is very important not to sell all your coins now. Whales hope on such actions ordinary people. Keep your coins and in the future you will be able to recover your costs and get a good profit.