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Title: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: ruthbabe on May 14, 2019, 07:14:42 AM
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One of the most enduring mysteries of modern times has produced another enthralling twist. Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin’s pseudonymous and enigmatic creator, has not been seen online in more than eight years. Evidence has now surfaced that points to a new Satoshi candidate, whose known life has a number of parallels with that of Bitcoin’s inventor. His name is Paul Le Roux and, if proven to be Satoshi, there is a good reason why his 1 million BTC hasn’t moved – the Rhodesian has been in jail since 2012. More here (https://news.bitcoin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-could-be-criminal-mastermind-paul-le-roux/)...

What is your thought on this news article? Do you think Paul Le Roux and Satoshi Nakamoto are the same person? Let's discuss.


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: Carlton Banks on May 14, 2019, 08:11:36 AM
*yawn*

I suppose everyone in prison since 2012 is a candidate, then?


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: buwaytress on May 14, 2019, 08:36:11 AM
We might as well start from the same 2012 point. People who've been in prison (and without internet), people who've died, even people who've been committed to mental institutions, and people who've become substance addicts since 2012.

I mean, it makes sense, the only reason we wouldn't move our coins were if we died or couldn't access it right? There's NO other reason we'd just up and go. If not us, why Satoshi right?

Wright, Le Roux, really, we do have the pick of the litter.



Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: CryptoBry on May 14, 2019, 08:54:39 AM
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It has now been suggested that Paul Le Roux may be Satoshi Nakamoto – and that Craig Wright is in possession of encrypted hard drives containing Le Roux’s multi-billion-dollar stash of bitcoins. It’s a crazy theory, and yet, on closer inspection, there is a prima facie case for Bitcoin’s mastermind being criminal mastermind Le Roux. Source. (https://news.bitcoin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-could-be-criminal-mastermind-paul-le-roux/)


I am always fascinated with the continuing fascination with the never-ending search for the real identity of the man named Satoshi Nakamoto. So far there have been many candidates but only a few are being taken seriously. Should we then include a criminal named Paul Le Roux to the growing list of possible Satoshi? Well, let's see if this possible claim can hold on over a period of time. Certainly, it would put Bitcoin on a bad light if later on it can be proven that this man is the one we are looking for. Just because a person is in jail is not making him inutile not to be able to move his Bitcoin not unless he is not allowed to see any guest even family members.


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: IconFirm on May 14, 2019, 09:17:04 AM
I made the mistake of taking OP off ignore to peek - wish I didn't bother.

Have you ever read such complete & utter cr@p? Jeezus.

Back on ignore & don't ever come out again.....lol


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: tyz on May 14, 2019, 09:52:55 AM
What is your thought on this news article? Do you think Paul Le Roux and Satoshi Nakamoto are the same person? Let's discuss.

A few minutes ago I read an article (https://www.ccn.com/satoshi-nakamoto-calvin-ayre-teases-evidence-craig-wright-bitcoin) where Calvin Ayre claims to have evidence that Craig Wright is Satoshi Nakamoto, which he wants to show at a conference in Toronto at the end of May. To be honest, I find the whole discussion tiresome. I mean it doesn't do us any good to know who or what Satoshi is. On the contrary, if we would know it would destroy much of the mystery of Bitcoin. I think only Satoshi knows who Satoshi is (and maybe a small circle of early fellows) and we should leave it at that.



Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: davis196 on May 14, 2019, 05:45:25 PM
*yawn*

I suppose everyone in prison since 2012 is a candidate, then?

I thought that prisoners have access to computers(not tracked by the jail authorities). ;D
Julian Assange has been hiding in the Ecuador embassy since 2012.That makes him another candidate.Oh,wait,he has access to computers and internet. ;D
That Paul Le Roux guy is a pretty serous gangster with some programming skills,but I don't believe that he would dedicate his time for creating a project like bitcoin.


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: squatter on May 14, 2019, 08:19:53 PM
The "evidence" seems to boil down to this:

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  • The curious Satoshi/Solotshi monikers.
  • Both were programmers familiar with C++.
  • Both had a strong interest in cryptography and privacy.
  • Both were wary of authority.
  • Both had an interest in online gambling – Bitcoin’s initial code had a poker client included.
  • Both were well aware of the difficulty with traditional payment systems, Le Roux on account of the illegal prescription drug racket he was running.
  • Satoshi’s spelling and language – “analyse, colour, defence, bloody, hard” is consistent with Rhodesian Le Roux’s.
  • Satoshi disappeared in early 2011 to “move on to other things” around the time that Le Roux was transitioning from software genius to cartel boss.
  • With tens of millions of dollars in cash, Le Roux would have had no need to cash out his BTC once the price began rising.
  • If anyone could have hidden wallets containing 1 million BTC, it would have been the creator of disk encryption software TrueCrypt.

That's a terribly uninspiring list.

Satoshi as a programmer turned cartel boss turned law enforcement snitch? I just don't buy it. Sounds like great B-movie script, though.

To be honest, I find the whole discussion tiresome.

That makes two of us...


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: davidtld on May 14, 2019, 08:31:00 PM
haha Its definitely not him, but its a curious news!


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: akamit on May 14, 2019, 08:38:22 PM
WTF, we haven't known yet who the hell Satoshi is?

I thought gotsatoshi.com might have revealed him as of now and I also thought that the site belongs to Mr. McAfee. :D


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: Slow death on May 14, 2019, 11:05:59 PM
What is your thought on this news article? Do you think Paul Le Roux and Satoshi Nakamoto are the same person? Let's discuss.

look at this photo:

https://i.imgur.com/mFG7LPH.jpg

 :o :o :o

I definitely hope he's not satoshi.

if the creator of bitcoin appeared and was involved with crimes would not be good for bitcoin, so it's much better to continue as everything is, we do not need to know who is the creator of bitcoin and hope we never know who is satoshi


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: vit05 on May 14, 2019, 11:19:41 PM
Satoshi slowly built up his disappearance. He always wanted to be anonymous and probably spent a good deal of time planning all the details. He did not disappear on a single day while having open conversations with others. He disappeared.

Something did happen, as Bitcoin and the entire ecosystem still needed help. Maybe he was a criminal, maybe someone very worried about conspiracies, worried about the CIA or his family. But it is quite unlikely that he had been arrested.


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: milewilda on May 14, 2019, 11:35:19 PM
Here we go again after seeing the drama of Craig and now we do see this Paul Le Roux said to be satoshi.Im actually tired to read up these kind of news yet we do know that no one would ever to uncover Satoshis
true identity and these Faketoshis dont stop on claiming bullshit things.lol


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: Siren on May 15, 2019, 01:50:40 AM
*yawn*

I suppose everyone in prison since 2012 is a candidate, then?
Yeah that’s it lol

But also Satoshi is the president of a country also?

What I am asking is why people keep on pointing or claiming to be Satoshi Nakamoto when the truth is we don’t have to do such because the important thing is what Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency's brings us and how beneficial this might be


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: Ozero on May 15, 2019, 04:44:41 AM
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One of the most enduring mysteries of modern times has produced another enthralling twist. Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin’s pseudonymous and enigmatic creator, has not been seen online in more than eight years. Evidence has now surfaced that points to a new Satoshi candidate, whose known life has a number of parallels with that of Bitcoin’s inventor. His name is Paul Le Roux and, if proven to be Satoshi, there is a good reason why his 1 million BTC hasn’t moved – the Rhodesian has been in jail since 2012. More here (https://news.bitcoin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-could-be-criminal-mastermind-paul-le-roux/)...

What is your thought on this news article? Do you think Paul Le Roux and Satoshi Nakamoto are the same person? Let's discuss.
Recently, something has already become a lot of contenders for the role of Satoshi Nakamoto. We don’t have time to discuss one version, as soon as another one appears. Suffice it to some slightest coincidence, and already asked whether the opinion could be this man Satoshi Nakamoto. In my opinion, to discuss this issue, you need a more compelling reason than the fact that someone is in prison since 2012, which means that he could be Satoshi Nakamoto, assuming that Satoshi Nakamoto since 2012 does not give know yourself. So Satoshi Nakamoto and until that time wanted to remain anonymous, since he used not his real name, but a pseudonym.
In my opinion, while Satoshi Nakamoto does not want to announce himself, all these efforts to find him will be in vain.


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: gmaxwell on May 15, 2019, 05:01:55 AM
Why is it that when suckers that fell for wright finally start to get a clue they grab on to the next bit of fakery wright puts out?

It's like some kind of gamblers fallacy for dishonesty: "The last 100 things Wright told me were lies, so this next one has to be true for sure!".


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: elda34b on May 15, 2019, 05:32:49 AM
In my opinion, while Satoshi Nakamoto does not want to announce himself, all these efforts to find him will be in vain.

satoshi never one request people to find who he actually is. People are just looking to spend their free time and money.

Let's stop searching for him and just continue on building. Let him rest.



Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: Kakmakr on May 15, 2019, 06:47:05 AM
1.The curious Satoshi/Solotshi monikers.
OK, It's close enough to peak my interest.

2.Both were programmers familiar with C++
It was the most used programming language back then.  ::)

3.Both had a strong interest in cryptography and privacy.
1000s of people share the same interest, but it does not mean that they automatically qualify to be Satoshi.  ::)

4.Both were wary of authority.
When you want to create something that makes it difficult for "Big brother" to decipher, then you will also be wary of authorities. 


5.Both had an interest in online gambling – Bitcoin’s initial code had a poker client included.
Millions of people gamble, really?

6.Both were well aware of the difficulty with traditional payment systems, Le Roux on account of the illegal prescription drug racket he was running.
Would you not focus your attention of payment systems, if you want to launder money?

7.Satoshi’s spelling and language – “analyse, colour, defence, bloody, hard” is consistent with Rhodesian Le Roux’s.
I would want to see more evidence of that, Satoshi's writings have been very had to decipher. <British style>

8.Satoshi disappeared in early 2011 to “move on to other things” around the time that Le Roux was transitioning from software genius to cartel boss.
So everyone that changed jobs might be Satoshi then?

9.With tens of millions of dollars in cash, Le Roux would have had no need to cash out his BTC once the price began rising.
Why has no family member ever tried to sell any of those coins?

10.If anyone could have hidden wallets containing 1 million BTC, it would have been the creator of disk encryption software TrueCrypt.
I can hide the same amount of coins on a paper wallet without the use of any encryption knowledge or skills.  ::)


Interesting theories, but it will be interesting to see what happens when authorities start to dig a little bit deeper into this.  ::)


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: shamc on May 15, 2019, 06:51:00 AM
Satoshi didn't disappear he left his project to Gavin Andersen and the other developers, then walked away. Not because he was sent to prison, but good effort as a punting guess


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: malevolent on May 15, 2019, 10:58:13 AM
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I definitely hope he's not satoshi.
if the creator of bitcoin appeared and was involved with crimes would not be good for bitcoin, so it's much better to continue as everything is, we do not need to know who is the creator of bitcoin and hope we never know who is satoshi

That's not Paul Le Roux but one of his hit men, Joseph Hunter. If anyone has time to spare, feel free to dive into this series of articles here about Paul Le Roux:

https://magazine.atavist.com/the-mastermind

And judge for yourself if this person in any way resembles the Satoshi persona.


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: Mpamaegbu on May 15, 2019, 11:15:55 AM
I thought we already settled on Craig Wright being Satoshi  ;D

What the heck is this again?


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: DaRude on May 20, 2019, 10:33:28 AM
1.The curious Satoshi/Solotshi monikers.
OK, It's close enough to peak my interest.

2.Both were programmers familiar with C++
It was the most used programming language back then.  ::)

3.Both had a strong interest in cryptography and privacy.
1000s of people share the same interest, but it does not mean that they automatically qualify to be Satoshi.  ::)

4.Both were wary of authority.
When you want to create something that makes it difficult for "Big brother" to decipher, then you will also be wary of authorities. 


5.Both had an interest in online gambling – Bitcoin’s initial code had a poker client included.
Millions of people gamble, really?

6.Both were well aware of the difficulty with traditional payment systems, Le Roux on account of the illegal prescription drug racket he was running.
Would you not focus your attention of payment systems, if you want to launder money?

7.Satoshi’s spelling and language – “analyse, colour, defence, bloody, hard” is consistent with Rhodesian Le Roux’s.
I would want to see more evidence of that, Satoshi's writings have been very had to decipher. <British style>

8.Satoshi disappeared in early 2011 to “move on to other things” around the time that Le Roux was transitioning from software genius to cartel boss.
So everyone that changed jobs might be Satoshi then?

9.With tens of millions of dollars in cash, Le Roux would have had no need to cash out his BTC once the price began rising.
Why has no family member ever tried to sell any of those coins?

10.If anyone could have hidden wallets containing 1 million BTC, it would have been the creator of disk encryption software TrueCrypt.
I can hide the same amount of coins on a paper wallet without the use of any encryption knowledge or skills.  ::)


Interesting theories, but it will be interesting to see what happens when authorities start to dig a little bit deeper into this.  ::)

Add to that a TrueCrypt inventor who by definition is very likely to be a cypherpunk. So far his MO fits more than anyone else i can think of. From what i can see this in no way helps CSW and if anything, makes him a liar that's trying to steal Pauls creation.


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: Fabienne_ayy on May 21, 2019, 11:46:41 AM
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One of the most enduring mysteries of modern times has produced another enthralling twist. Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin’s pseudonymous and enigmatic creator, has not been seen online in more than eight years. Evidence has now surfaced that points to a new Satoshi candidate, whose known life has a number of parallels with that of Bitcoin’s inventor. His name is Paul Le Roux and, if proven to be Satoshi, there is a good reason why his 1 million BTC hasn’t moved – the Rhodesian has been in jail since 2012. More here (https://news.bitcoin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-could-be-criminal-mastermind-paul-le-roux/)...

What is your thought on this news article? Do you think Paul Le Roux and Satoshi Nakamoto are the same person? Let's discuss.

I hardly believe but probably he would do such things as he did as he's got a lot more


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on May 21, 2019, 03:54:26 PM
*yawn*

I suppose everyone in prison since 2012 is a candidate, then?

Exactly. Some people are really desperate to prove that Satoshi is some petty criminal. I took me 5 seconds to confirm that this guy (Paul Le Roux) has nothing to do with Satoshi or Bitcoins. His skills are insufficient, and his educational background is not good enough to consider such a possibility. He has been in prison since 2012. But then the question arises why he didn't sold at least some of the coins in 2011, when for a brief period the exchange rate shot up to $30 per coin?


Title: Re: [2019-05-14] Satoshi Nakamoto Could Be Criminal Mastermind Paul Le Roux
Post by: DaRude on May 22, 2019, 03:42:52 AM
*yawn*

I suppose everyone in prison since 2012 is a candidate, then?

Exactly. Some people are really desperate to prove that Satoshi is some petty criminal. I took me 5 seconds to confirm that this guy (Paul Le Roux) has nothing to do with Satoshi or Bitcoins. His skills are insufficient, and his educational background is not good enough to consider such a possibility. He has been in prison since 2012. But then the question arises why he didn't sold at least some of the coins in 2011, when for a brief period the exchange rate shot up to $30 per coin?

Are his skills sufficient enough to create TrueCrypt? Cause he did. You should've spent more that 5 seconds researching, then you'd see that he clearly had no use for cash in 2011. So far the only somewhat solid argument against it, is Paul's ability to be on this very forum and communicate with others on the subject of bitcoin while at the same time running his empire.