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Some Bitcoin gambling websites have these extensive multi-tier VIP rewards for their players.
How important is it for you that the website you play on has these?

Also, do you take these VIP rewards into account when you look at the website's house edge?
I mean, if the house edge is at like 1% for dice, but you also get some additional rewards when you wager certain amounts, then the overall house edge is actually a little bit lower, right?

I personally really like it when a website offers these additional rewards, combined with a system for ranking up.
Really adds a whole new element to your gambling experience.

What do you think?

For me as fun player is not important to obtain VIP perk because it's only for the whale.

But for the owner, it's become the way to attract more people and more whale to gamble on their side.

And for the whale gambler, when they gamble with massive amount, any house edge decreasing will affect on their profit / loss

For me, I don't think that will be worth it because I don't expect to get a big win in the gambling games.
I don't take the VIP rewards into my account, and I am only an ordinary people who only want to play gambling.
But I don't know with the other's opinion, and maybe they will like to take VIP rewards because they can use it for another.

I am now trying to use decentralized ways in every area. For gambling, legalized methods are becoming more important. While there are too many gambling platforms, the number of good projects is minimal. Obviously, I turned to new platforms. For example, I'm following the project Tokenroll these days. MVP was released and used. I'm having fun too. He will soon be working on the Tron network. Are there any other known platforms like this?

Totally worth it in my opinion. I usually check whether such bonus perks are provided or not before choosing to invest in a particular gambling website. This motivates me to stick to that site and play for a longer period of time and the bonuses usually stack up in a great manner.

Personally I don't find VIP ranks very useful for me and that's probably because I usually don't gamble a lot. This type of ranks are usually offered to people that wager a minimum amount of money and along with that they get extra rewards and promotions. It's called VIP for a reason and that's because not everyone can have it and those who earn it have more advantages when talking about promotions, house edge and also support.

I dont mind too much when it comes to VIP thingy but i would say that this is much better than having nothing at all because these VIP rewards would be most likely to be achieve by those players who are heavily
making up some gambling or simply do have the money or capacity to sustain on playing gambling for longer terms but for casual ones, reaching this vip levels wont be possible.
It do really have benefit like increased faucet claims but i guess these players wont really care at all but talking about reducing HE benefit then this one is really a good one.

VIP ranks are just another marketing trick.It makes players think that they could win more,while in the end the casino always wins.If you like the VIP/rewards system,OK,it's your choice,but I'm not falling into the belief that such "features" will help me to become a successful gambler.

I think those ranks may give additional fun to the game and website.

Few time ago I was betting a lot in dice games, and I liked to level up through the ranks (it was almost a parallel game). I noticed very few difference however... i believe the rewards should be better for small bet players.

more than anything the rewards are making me more happier on the day and that will be something different confidence bill came to my mind set about we are doing the right job in this time that's why rewards is more important for me to do something better in my life and the field also.

100% important to me. I tend to stick to a site I like, and I especially like it if my time and wagering there counts for something.

My sportsbook wagers, for example, are heavily dependent on odds. The lower the juice from the house, the more profit I make (for making the exact same bet, really). So I stick to the bookie with the best odds, but not to the point I only use 1. As soon as someone else gives me better odds, I go to them. Of course, trust and reputation counts for a lot, it does take me a lot to actually deposit money somewhere.

And yes, absolutely, in terms of house edge, I take into account rakebacks (usually in terms of loss back, cashback). You'd be really surprised what an extra 0.1% means.

As for regular users on the site, it's kind of advantage that while we are using our favorite sportsbook, we are taking advantage of what rewards include in the VIP.

We know that it's part of attracting new users but if the perks are good, why not. Better than nothing indeed.

Never thought of advantages over house edge or anything that will increase chances of winnings. It's out of the context.

Ranks and bonuses are rather important to me as a gambler, especially for casinos that I regularly play on. Doesn't hurt the casino too much to offer a few bonuses to high rollers and regulars, and the bonuses keep those players coming back. It's always nice to get a little bonus after wagering a medium to large amount of money too even if you come out with an overall loss, and bonuses also add a new twist to games that are somewhat dull (IMO) like dice. It's a goal for some to reach certain ranks on sites as well for bragging rights.

It's definitely true. Some sites offer bonuses and even Vip ranks just to look appealing and make players believe that they could earn better than usual players do. It's their tactic and once we fall for it, we could get deceived and hooked to it without noticing there we're not really earning good through it.

Actually, I don't care about those rank or rewards if you level up. Pd has it before. What most important to me in gambling is winning/profit. As long as i'm getting a profit those things doesn't matter to me. I'll better focus on my game rather than targeting those unimportant things for me.

I only play using bonuses so rewards are fairly important to me, I have a thread here with sites that offer bonuses to gamble ''for free''. I know there are a ton of them in crypto. VIP ranks are fairly useless, increasing your chances slightly or not it's meaningless in the long term since you are losing anyways.

It all depends on the extras what a VIP rank brings. At some sites ita only a title which they give to loyal player's. Then it's nice to have even when there is no reward involved.

At sites where you need to wager an x amount to be VIP OT only will nice when you get something extra. Otherwise you are risking a lot to wager with no reward at the end.

I don't find them important unless they would offer privileges.
We can't rely our luck on Vip rankings.
It couldn't even increase our chances of winning.
I actually find it distracting so I don't think it could help us earn better.

For Sportsbook then this VIP thing would really be beneficial due to perks and other benefits but for other gambling sites like dice and other similar

games,then i dont see such useful thing yet most of them wont really give out that decreased House edge,if it does then the house is simply generous.  ;D

There are some privileges for a higher ranking, but yeah it can’t affect your earnings and can’t increase your potential to win. I also don’t focus much on the rankings or any rewards, i just play and have fun while having only small profit is fine for me.

When you just play for fun and do small betting then it's not important, but if you're daily gambler then its good to have that privilege, some of the VIP gives you more deposit bonus or cashback bonus, so it can become handy if you often gamble and bet with big bet

it's kind of loyalty to their loyal users, but it doesn't really matter if you just play for fun right. unless you are looking for profit in gambling, maybe a VIP rank will greatly affect the final outcome of your gambling game.
but for small players like me, ranking isn't too much of a concern

That's the logic, when playing big bankroll those privilege will adds up, bonuses can be use as an extend of your capital so you can execute strategy
that you wanted to use, gambling sites who offers VIP knew that every hevy gamblers will be attracted by this promotions making them stay and
enjoy playing, it's for both big time players and the house to take the edge from using this privilege,.

House attract more players to upgrade their position and have this privilege while players will look for some edge when using it.

I had heard there was some of casinos offering VIP rank to their players but during gamble as far i remember i was never get VIP rank on my profille also while gamble i never thinking to get particular ranks but if this rank will profitable for the players themself i think it will be fine but for me VIP rank or not it does not matter as long i can play gamble and lucky that's enough for me

I was VIP at PrimeDice a long time ago. It was when you wagered 100+ BTC. At the end you start wagering just to get it and there wasn't any reward. But a tag next to your name was also nice.

100+btc waggered but still no cash reward ? strange  . if its done on other sites , you can already win the first prize for waggering contest  . 100+btc is not a joke amount of cryptos and they should have give you something in return aside from a vip status / tag  .  

when i heard the word vip , first thing that come to my mind is premium or goodness  but i think vip feature will also depend on the site that you are playing with  . some give good rewards and some not really  .

Yes there was no cash reward. At least I didn't get anything. Maybe some other older players of PrimeDice can confirm that? That 100btc was when bitcoin was worth $1200 but still a big amount to wager.

I don't know if you can call it a reward, but I'm sure your faucet was higher than average with that amount wagered.

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Overall I think that various rewards for high rollers is a good and necessary thing, without which no gambling site I know of operates. Also, this practice is not unique to gambling sites. Restaurants, airline companies, shops, gyms etc. are using similar patterns to award their loyal customers.

These kind of rewards are only important to people who do a lot of betting, the highrollers.I think for them is important because it gives a boost to their gambling.

To average and casual gamblers I don't think this kind of reward is important as they are not heavy bettors.These rewards are created exactly for these high rollers and not for the average gamblers.

These ranks and stats do have an effect on the mindset of a gambler or any users. It's like being part of the site. A place to gather. It brings back some nostalgia.
 The site recognizing the contribution (they love money) of the individual would make them at least satisfied that their loss can be seen on their rank and leaderboard.

Is VIP rank on gambling site come with any advantage because to me it just depends on you involvement on the site and how skillful you are in playing gambling games that warrant the gambling platform to give you that rank. But may be it have more to it e.g the level of rewards and risk of gambling.

On some gambling websites it's really not only for the high rollers.
I mean, on Bitsler for example, you can already level up and open loot chests when you've wagered a couple of hundred dollars worth of cryptocurrency.

Same with other websites & keep in mind, if you play dice at a 1.02 multiplier, you can get there quite fast.

I believe Safedice (before it went weird, don't even know if it's still around) had a model for lowered house edge for higher levels of wager. Most others don't really lower the house edge for you, but the nett effect of bonuses like higher cashback, or higher lossback for higher levels is that you lower the edge.

For instance, if you played at a dice site with 1% house edge, that means you "lose" (are expected to lose) 0.01 BTC for every 1 BTC you wager, but if you wagered 1 BTC, you get quite a high level at some dice sites. It opens up bigger faucets, bigger rains, bigger bonuses. Granted, these can be quite small at first but cumulatively and over the long term, I've found that the bigger faucets on days I'm not depositing, the rains, etc. They all add up and help make up for the "expected losses" of house edge.

I am small players too like you, and I don't think much about VIP rewards because as what I said before, that rewards will belong in for the loyal users who always play gambling in their site.
Without the loyal user, the gambling site cannot grow and cannot get a good reputation among the other gambling websites.
They should treat loyal users as a king and never disappoint them.

Exactly, that's why I mentioned this in the OP:


You do have a good point that this would probably only have a significant effect when you're at quite a high rank.
Some sites really do have great rewards if you've wagered a couple of BTC, maybe evenenough to fully offset the house-edge.

This is an interesting way to improve gambling loyalty. Do they give monetary incentives or any additional incentive to the ranks?
 Is the ranking up thing also done on physical gambling centers?

Once we got the opportunity to get the these things then the next move from our side will be more confident with some extra guidance because the rewards will be giving the extra power and vibration in our mind that's why they are really needed for everyone.

For you to be eligible for VIP rewards you need to wager a lot. For me i'm not into VIP rank to get a VIP reward. What i want in a gambling site is if they offer contest per week where you get a reward if you win the contest.

of course you should always stick to sites that offer you betback , lossback or any other type of bonuses
when you are playing games that are -EV these rewards won't make you profit , but they will do help you recovering some of what you lost and reduce the house edge a little

for sportsbetting that's a different story , for a profitable punter these rewards are purely extra money
so when you see a site that offers a bonus you should take it since you are expecting to make more money

always stick to sites that offer betbacks and lossback , if you see two sites that offer the same odds for certain game and you want to bet it then you should bet it with the site that has betback and lossback
after you make the bet you won't notice any change cause sometimes you want even make a penny with these rewards
but considering that you are a profitable punter that means you will keep making bets since you are profitable at the end
you will notice a huge difference after like 10000 bets

just like shopping for the best odds , if you don't take these small VIP benefits then you are leaving money on the table

Yes, it doesn't matter to small rollers like myself. But if you are a regular to a specific gambling site and you are spending a lot of money, I think VIP and other rewards should be of advantage to you.

I think it's not for everyone. I am not the guy since I never gamble a huge money. I do it with a lower amount like 0.01 BTC or so. I guess VIP is for the big amount investors.

Important or not I'm very interested, VIP rewards are indeed offered by the site and for me its quite tempting for some bonus when playing and getting special attention from the admin I think it is encouraging. But the most important thing for me is the joyful of playing, so VIP is also fun and will run over time.
When you continue to play with the amount of 0.01BTC, gradually you will eventually wagered a lot and I think award and VIP you will get it. The longer you're so higher your will be position.

Maybe if it is not really good, there are no one that use it but in fact some people use VIP membership in some gambling site. It means it is good for them. But for me i not really  taking gambling very seriously, so VIP or not is no matter for me.

It really depends on what website you play, some gambling websites do allow you to rank up pretty easily without wagering a lot.
I think that you could even have a balance of like 0.001 BTC on some websites and still be able to benefit from VIP rewards, albeit small VIP rewards.

VIP rank on a gambling website usually related to how much we gamble on the site, I myself not a huge gambler but sometime I gamble more than usual so VIP program will be useful for me for long term purpose as probably I can get some money back in the future that I can use it for gamble or withdraw it. Frankly speaking, I have never received any rewards from such VIP program so far but maybe I'll get some in the near future although the amount is not that big. No matter how much the reward is, it will be good for me or for any other players IMO.

0.001btc is too smal for a vip status  . What i know is that vip rank will require higher deposits or higher wagering . Some sites dont also have a leveling system or a vip feature which is good because that will be fair to all gamblers  .  

Vip feature is only one of the gimmicks that gambling site has think of in order to possibly attract costumers but i think its not that really important because gambling is still gambling and chances of winning will still be hard  .

I don't consider VIP rewards a lot if I want to decide in which online casino I want to play.
Most of those incentives are to make you play more in their casino and force you lose more money, thus giving them more profit. It is a strategy that helps the casino and not the gambler.

Obviously a overwhelming moment it would be when rewarded with high ranks. This is what every one expects at any moment. But i have not yet played on a website where such options are given. I dont remember to have come across. Would be happy to participate if any.

It's true that VIP is very fun and profitable, but for those who are not active players and just having fun, don't be too ambitious to be a VIP member because you spend your money without playing actively, nobody forbids it, but it's only for active players because every bonus and other benefits will always be obtained in a certain period when there is a big bonus applied, nothing is not good because I see it is very profitable.

To me they are not important at a because I don't play enough to reach them but if you're a frequent gambler you should take them into account and appreciate the bonuses sites are offering.

Yolo has the rankup system and it's nice. It makes you feel like you're leveling your account and getting additional rewards just for wagering money so even a loss makes you gain something. It's always better to have additional features than not have them :)

It is really unexpected becomes the rewards will not came in our expected time so when it comes suddenly it will give the confidence for the future to do the gambling properly with some extra Strategies and ideas this not only in this field everyone needs the river from their field that's why they can put more effort for the future.

For me, its like in this forum, the longer you stay, more activities, more privileges. In the case of casinos, you get to access and join exclusive promotions for higher ranked members. Its a win win situation for both player and online casino owner because the longer a player stay logged in the site theres more chance that the player will spend more money.

In my long exposure inbusiness industry, i would say that VIP ranks and rewards are a very effecting way of getting your customers loyal to you. Even on just mobile game , people would psychologically aim for high to increase their ego. If not, they just want higher ranks for bigger rewards. With this the company would hook their customers until end.

Sometimes to get the VIP access, we need to have much money or wager some big amount so the gambling site will give offers to us to join in the VIP with discount price.
But for people who don't take the VIP, they will not use the chance to join with the others in the VIP area because they feel enough to join as the basics member.
But maybe, if you can join in the VIP area, you will get more benefits that you don't get in the basics member.
And that will depend on what your reason to play gambling.

It thinks that's is great that casino site has special rewards and giveaways for there VIP players, the VIP players are often major whales who gamble with huge amounts of money, so they should also get access to special rewards.
But to get a site popular there should also be some kind of rewards system for casual players.

When creating a ranking will help users compete together and help the bookies generate more profits. With me are a user and experience. I look forward to a platform that always creates programs for players with large amounts of money or big bets. That will make me happy and want to experience their foundation.

The VIP ranks and the rewards are the another formula for promoting the site. I think VIP rank worth only for whale members So that they earn huge rewards depending on their holdings. But who has no more money VIP rank is not important  for that person.

Maybe some people who use it really deep on gambling so for be sure that they will be VIP member. But i believe VIP member must give a lot of advantage for their users and that is why a lot of users want to use it.

I would certainly take these multi-tier VIP rewards as it will really help you of course. Having the multi-tier VIP account is different than the basic account where VIP accounts can have these VIP rewards and normal/basic accounts can't have the rewards unless they upgrade their account to VIP. I would really take these multi-tier VIP rewards especially if it is affordable to take it and you'll have more entertainment because of the VIP rewards plus your own capital to play any games that the gambling site has.

Not really much even so there are really some advantages or benefits when it compared to an ordinary gambling account user but talking to a point that giving out a lot of advantage I'm sure that it doesn't work that way.Gambling house wont give out such chances for a gambler to be profitable on higher chance since they do know the risk when it comes to their business.Some might prefer or concerned about VIP ranks
but this is just been part of their perks that sparks out players interest.

Can you cite what gambling sites that do have that kind of vip benefits when it comes on lowering the house edge?

I cant find or havent experience to look up with these places.Reducing house edge is a nice thing as a benefit for their
vip rewards.

No one will deny the rivers in his life because it always giving the confidence forever especially in this type of field rewards will give the extra happiness to do the next move of perfectly with lots of good vibration that's why it is more important for my life.

For me its an additional feature which is not really necessary but i like it. it's like an additional competition besides the competition against the house to make some money.
also some bonuses for vip members are motivational enough to hold users on the platform

Right, all of that only to attract people so they think they can get a lot of benefit from that gambling site, but actually it is not much  ;D of course some gambling site will really concern about what they will give to their users.

I don't think all those things are worth it. I only care about what I get and not about VIP and things like that. Those things are what casinos are using to draw more customers to themselves, and some addicted gamblers will be wasting their money just because they want to be VIPs. Okay, some people might like the rewards that comes from being a VIP on a betting sites, but I don't really fancy them, cause it doesn't really change anything.

You only get the rewards based on some certain criteria, and these rewards van be anything but I don't think they are worth what you might to spend to earn them. And I don't think being a VIP increases your chance winning every game more than a non-VIP player.

You need to first understand why the Gambling sites gives VIP ranks to certain players ? They give those rank to player who are more active and wager more on the site. The  house does not want that those player leave their site and hence they award them different offers in terms of ranks etc.

From gambler point of view, these ranks are always good to have and he can even show to his family friends, on how much he is reconized  for playing on the site.

The most important thing is to win in gambling and its does not matter to me if i am awarded a VVIP status or other such badges against my name.
Also this type of ranks are for those who are very active in gambling while i am not so active.

If our work will satisfy someone and they will ready to give you a reward it is the perfect reward for you and it will give the happiness and success feeling for you otherwise it is not mostly give any special power for you to the next move but if we got in sometime unexpectedly really to be a happiest moment

The VIP ranks are similar to a leveling system it's just renamed VIP to make it sound enticing to gamblers. Being a VIP does change things in some way for example on Bitsler you get certain rewards if you get enough xp even though it's not a big reward but it's still extra money you could be missing out on. Ii agree It doesn't increase your chances in winning but they're giving more back in return.

Casinos giving back in return? That's a bit shady if you ask me. They're not going to do it if there's nothing in it for them. These VIP schemes are a way to draw users and to keep them coming back. Not that complicated and it's good for the business if you have loyal "VIPs" And "high ranked" Players frequent on your site.

It's true that some casinos would be giving back returns when you play but it's not much of a return because it's only a small percentage of every btc you gamble so it's only to make gamblers attract to the promotions so there's no reason to get the benefit of having the returns as some casino won't have these promotions.

Casino can give certain bonus or returns to the gamblers who have attain VIP status. If they give special features for VIP members, many people will try to attain the VIP status and thus they will wager more on the site. The main objective of these special status is that they keep the higher wagering players attract towards their site.