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Title: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Kongxx on May 15, 2019, 02:07:59 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Nalbo on May 15, 2019, 02:18:39 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

Yes, there are some incidents of hacker stealing crypto being brought to Justice and plenty more where they walk free with pride and money. And in some instances, they were able to bring back the stolen funds without getting the hackers.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: mk4 on May 15, 2019, 02:43:15 AM
It completely depends. If they moved the stolen funds on a custodial wallet or exchange like Coinbase, whereas your wallet address is actually tied to a person, then yes. But mostly hackers are smart enough to not move funds to a custodial wallet. They can simply move the stolen funds to a decent non-custodial wallet and they would pretty much stay anonymous unless they do something stupid.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: bL4nkcode on May 15, 2019, 03:13:58 AM
They can simply move the stolen funds to a decent non-custodial wallet and they would pretty much stay anonymous unless they do something stupid.
Or simply they just use a tumbler then the problem is solved for them, not unless this tumbler website reveals such details to the authority, eg. IP address, etc. which unlikely to happen.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Ailmand on May 15, 2019, 05:56:22 AM
It completely depends. If they moved the stolen funds on a custodial wallet or exchange like Coinbase, whereas your wallet address is actually tied to a person, then yes. But mostly hackers are smart enough to not move funds to a custodial wallet. They can simply move the stolen funds to a decent non-custodial wallet and they would pretty much stay anonymous unless they do something stupid.

Even if culprits use such wallets to cash-out what they stole, thieves are not dumb enough to use their legitimate identity if they know using  wallets with KYC procedure will divulge their true identity. The culprits can use accounts that are stolen, bought accounts, or accounts with fake identity to cash them out.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: killat on May 15, 2019, 06:04:11 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

Everyone thinks that crypto regulation is wrong. This is why thieves are not being caught, as authorities don't give a sh** about it. They care about what happens to regulated operations.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: XCANA on May 15, 2019, 06:12:30 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
Those who are professionals know what to do whenever it come to data erasement after a successful hack. Cleaning the mess after hack make it impossible and at the sometime possible for a trace, many have been traced and arrested before now
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“I’m a millionaire. I’m not kidding. I have 100 Bitcoin.”
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Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Kakmakr on May 15, 2019, 06:21:02 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

The most accurate answer is "NO" but there are exceptions and I think as Blockchain analysis tools improve, exploits in tumbler code might be found to expose many criminals. I use these services to secure my financial privacy, not to hide any crime, so I sleep like a baby every night.  ;)

A lot of criminals make mistakes and they live high above their reported income, so when they are audited by the authorities, the wheels come off and they get caught. <How can a unemployed guy, drive a $300 000 car?>


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Reid on May 15, 2019, 06:39:35 AM
Do you really think a hacker would make it easy for the authorities for them to be caught.

They know how to hack, I bet they also prepared on how to get away from it.
They will be traced yes, but it will be a difficult task for the police to catch them. They will be running in circles unless the hacker made a mistake on how the getaway will happen.
Plus, they dont spend it at the same time. That is why it takes time for it to cool down while the authorities are still on alert. Hacker will think it is all clear.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: edisystem on May 15, 2019, 06:51:29 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
Depends, but if the hackers who steal coins is only hacked 1 person, usually it will be hard to be identified because you don't know who is the hacker, you only can track it to which address your coins go.

If the hackers hack a big exchange maybe it can be identified, i don't know if binance know who is hacked their site though.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: okala on May 15, 2019, 06:56:23 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
In most cases hackers that hack cryptocurrency exchanges get away with it this is due to the fact that cryptocurrencies are anonymous in nature and because of this it hard for the hackers to be trace and apprehended, but despite this high privacy in cryptocurrency the are few cases where the thief's are caught due to intelligence gathering.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: phamminhtan on May 15, 2019, 06:56:56 AM
Maybe, if they use an identifiable wallet, in another example they use an anonymous wallet, it is impossible to find them and detain them.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: niisarearning on May 15, 2019, 07:32:40 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
Which exchange hack your talking about Cryptopia or Binance . As far my understanding nobody caught till now . We have seen several hacks including Ehterdelta was the major crypto currency exchange then Myetherwallet was the major web ethereum wallet . Nobody caught till now based on my research .


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Haunebu on May 15, 2019, 07:53:33 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

Everyone thinks that crypto regulation is wrong. This is why thieves are not being caught, as authorities don't give a sh** about it. They care about what happens to regulated operations.
It goes both ways. This would help with scammers getting caught and it would reduce this menace, but it would also affect thousands of investors who wish to conduct their financial transactions online anonymously basically chasing them away which would push adoption downwards.

Overall, regulation does help, but it also has its disadvantages as I mentioned.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Itsmylife on May 15, 2019, 08:29:24 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
If the number of coins has been stolen is not much, no one would be arrested, it is very hard to know who behind the theft due to the nature of cryptocurrencies is unverifiable.
But with the big money, the wallet of Hacker will be advised so it is very hard to spend the stolen money.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Genemind on May 15, 2019, 09:17:17 AM
It depends on how did hackers transferred the stolen funds.
Most of them are smart enough to keep transactions anonymous but there were incidents where hackers are being tracked and arrested.
It also depends on the stolen amount. Authorities focus on bigger amounts rather than small cases.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: jseverson on May 15, 2019, 09:22:13 AM
Here's one specific example of an exchange hacker:

https://ambcrypto.com/japans-18-year-old-hacker-faces-criminal-charge-for-involvement-in-15-million-yen-cryptocurrency-hack/

So yeah, they could be caught. They're probably harder to pin down than hackers who target specific user accounts because they likely know what they're doing though. An overwhelming majority of them get away with it, and it's gotten so bad that some people believe that most hacks are inside jobs.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Juggy777 on May 15, 2019, 09:26:05 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

This shall depend on how smart or dumb that hacker is, if he’s smart he’ll make sure to keep those coins away from exchanges and remain anonymous. However if he’s dumb and if he adds those coins to a exchange he’ll be caught immediately. Lastly I’m not aware of any hacker being arrested for stealing funds from the exchanges.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: MonsterV on May 15, 2019, 11:55:05 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

Yes, there are some incidents of hacker stealing crypto being brought to Justice and plenty more where they walk free with pride and money. And in some instances, they were able to bring back the stolen funds without getting the hackers.

But from the many cases of exchange hacking, the average perpetrator was not arrested. Even the police themselves cannot arrest the perpetrators because the decentralized system cannot be traced.
Especially if the perpetrators have hacked a large exchange like binance yesterday, surely they are smarter in hiding their identities and this is one of the weaknesses of the crypto system adopted.



Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Viscore on May 15, 2019, 12:58:34 PM
Not all, there are some cases which hackers were arrested.

Well, that's only the action after the incident, what the exchange should do is the prevention by improving their internal control.
True that no exchange is hack proofed but at least they need to do all the measures to protect the money of their clients.

Binance is even lucky the amount hacked is not big enough that they cannot cover, because if that affects the money of the clients, they will loss their reputation and it's the end of their business.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: 7788bitcoin on May 15, 2019, 02:50:05 PM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
I have seen a lot of exchange hacks in my stay here and i am sure some of them were caught and brought to justice, but majority of the huge hacks were done by professionals or inside job you can call as they were able to steal those big amounts and got away with it, i know everything can be traced but i am not sure how they got away with those hacks.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: b3llsf1l3s on May 15, 2019, 04:04:55 PM
Once the exchange is hijacked (without passing through an official account / someone else's account) then it will be very difficult to trace, so we cannot trace the theft only by proof of transaction hash


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Pamadar on May 15, 2019, 04:10:43 PM
There's some reports about arrested hackers but there's still someone who's very lucky to runaway with the hack money and still be able to keep doing it again and again., scammers and hackers are being part of this market as they also planned well whatever they wanted to do around.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: traderethereum on May 15, 2019, 10:21:10 PM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
I think they can be identified and arrested, but it needs a big effort from the law itself and the people inside the institutions because they need to scanning from where the connection has started and they need to investigate every IP connected to the exchanges.
They need to know the traffic from the website, and they need to know which wallet address which used for the transaction, what user account they used, and other things.
It's not easy as we can imagine, but if they have good skills in tracing from the evidence, I am sure that they will know who the hackers that steal the coins from the online wallet were.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: BlackFor3st on May 15, 2019, 11:15:19 PM
Some cheap hackers were caught in this kind of action but plenty of professional hackers weren't caught or even identified that they are the one behind the attack.

The recent attack in BNB exchange is a work of professional hackers that most of us consider it as blackhat hackers and the BNB team weren't able to even identify the hackers behind it. Therefore it is very important that we need to be very careful in any means as there are many types of attacks and once you fall a victim of it then all your funds will instantly become zero.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: kickdapa on May 15, 2019, 11:52:03 PM
Though some hackers and scammers got caught by the police but most of the cases hackers are very smart! I can't remember when i saw an Exchange hacker got caught. But I can tell you how many times hackers are went away after hacking huge amounts of money. This year we already seen some big exchange like bithumb, binance, dragonex, Cryptopia got hacked but the hackers are still unknown!


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: rdbase on May 15, 2019, 11:56:08 PM
Just look what has happened with the missing bitcoin from binance for example.
No body was caught yet but they do have the wallet addresses and have even followed where some of the funds went to. So it takes time for them to identify would the culprits are and then they can see if the funds are recoverable.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: DreamStage on May 15, 2019, 11:59:57 PM
Well in some cases yes there are some possibilities if it has been seen and sent to court (proven guilt).
There's also the courts order to return the stolen funds to their rightfull owners and the hacker to pay some big fee even having some sentence applied.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: waynechong1995 on May 16, 2019, 12:49:08 AM
As addresses are anonymous it's difficult to track the deL users, thiefs caught are either have their addresses signed somehow or its transactions are traceable for instance a random bitcoin address generator that track IP. If hackers can be easily caught then this beat decentralisation pretty hard. Crypto exchange are risky businessess yet consider those stolen fund are frozen as they cannot use anywhere through legal cash out platforms


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Ibizugbe1 on May 16, 2019, 12:45:44 PM
This is pretty difficult to track, since the hacker can decide to keep splitting the stolen bitcoin into different wallets to make it more difficult to trace or they can as well use a bitcoin mixer or even convert the bitcoin to a privacy coin in an exchange without their KYC, but if they decided to deposit it in a place they have KYC, they will be tracked down and possibly arrested. Nevertheless, hackers are smart.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Indamuck on May 16, 2019, 12:52:02 PM
Its too easy for hackers to get away by using mixing and converting in and out of privacy coins.  Most hackers do not get caught.  Its an appealing life for some and they have no remorse for those lives that they destroy.   Just think of how many people have died over a lack of money.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on May 16, 2019, 01:19:02 PM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

The most accurate answer is "NO" but there are exceptions and I think as Blockchain analysis tools improve, exploits in tumbler code might be found to expose many criminals. I use these services to secure my financial privacy, not to hide any crime, so I sleep like a baby every night.  ;)

A lot of criminals make mistakes and they live high above their reported income, so when they are audited by the authorities, the wheels come off and they get caught. <How can a unemployed guy, drive a $300 000 car?>
To secure your financial privacy, how? Tax invasion?

Or simply they just use a tumbler then the problem is solved for them, not unless this tumbler website reveals such details to the authority, eg. IP address, etc. which unlikely to happen.
This has always been the argument against mixing sites by those who canvass Bitcoin as an avenue for fund laundering. One would believe they seem to have a point here.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: figmentofmyass on May 16, 2019, 11:56:19 PM
Do you really think a hacker would make it easy for the authorities for them to be caught.

They know how to hack, I bet they also prepared on how to get away from it.
They will be traced yes, but it will be a difficult task for the police to catch them. They will be running in circles unless the hacker made a mistake on how the getaway will happen.

there will always be some criminals who will beat the system and escape for good.

many aren't so clever though. just last month, (https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-hacker-10-years-jail-7-5-million-sim-swap) a 21-year old was sentenced to 10 years in prison after he stole $7.5m from dozens of people using a SIM-swapping technique. instead of laying low, this is what he did:

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“After his thefts, Ortiz spent his loot lavishly – including $10,000 nights at Los Angeles clubs, hiring a helicopter to bring him and some friends to a music festival, and on Gucci luggage and clothing.”

some criminals are just born to get caught......


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: dothebeats on May 17, 2019, 04:18:02 AM
There had been some that were arrested but most are still freely roaming around. Even up to now, we don't get to see news that hackers are being arrested, or if one makes it to the headlines, it goes into obscurity after just a few days. You gotta admit that hackers are careful enough to not get caught. Of course they should be, else their efforts would just go to vain. But yeah, some are really dumb enough to leave traces of the money and get caught afterwards.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: padkins78 on May 17, 2019, 05:25:17 AM
What amazes me is that it was able to be hacked in the first place. I don’t think a single hacker could break into one of the most secure systems in the world. Don’t matter though, Bitcoin is killing!!😎https://www.thecollectivegroup.org/ico/%5D%5Bfont=poppins%5D%5Bglow=#020C59,2%5D%5Bcolor=white%5D%5Bsize=13pt


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Korkorjkk on May 18, 2019, 03:51:19 PM
There are times when the hackers can be caught and punished, or even jailed for some number of years in prison. But there are times too, when the main focus is on retrieving the funds and not identifying the hacker.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: adzino on May 18, 2019, 03:59:01 PM
As far as I know, the coins can be traced but it eventually gets lost (maybe because of those mixing services). Again, if they move to the coin to some exchange or other place where their identity can be linked, then they can be caught but hackers ain't that stupid. I just remember a recent incident where a hacker was caught for making a theft of around $5 million by sim swapping or something. Didn't look into much further.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: olamidey on May 18, 2019, 09:18:09 PM
Still don't see a Future in tracking stolen BTC. Yes I know that the last hack on an exchange has the exchange tracking the wallets with the stolen funds and trying to make Impossible for them to sell it. This is an excercise in futility. They can simply take to a smaller exchange or Thor and sell there. Whichever way, the hacker has access to the funds at anytime and can sell as like.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Mrsparks on May 18, 2019, 09:36:09 PM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
In my opinion I think it's only possible to trace and apprehend crypto hackers if they send the stolen funds to platforms with KYC regulations... This is an astute scenario where KYC Becomes a useful tool in mitigating fraudulent activity in the society.. Although I doubt any smart hacker will foolishly give out his real identity..


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Jating on May 19, 2019, 02:11:19 PM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

Some hackers that's been caught in the past.

Crypto Hacker Arrested for Stealing $11.3M in IOTA (MIOTA) (https://cryptovest.com/news/crypto-hacker-arrested-for-stealing-113m-in-iota-miota/)
20-Year Old Hacker Pleads Guilty to $5 Million Cryptocurrency Theft (https://cointelegraph.com/news/20-year-old-hacker-pleads-guilty-to-5-million-cryptocurrency-theft)
Turkish Police Arrest 24 Suspects Involved in Hacking Crypto Firm, Local Media Reports (https://cointelegraph.com/news/turkish-police-arrest-24-suspects-involved-in-hacking-crypto-firm-local-media-reports)

But majority of those hackers are still scott-free because they really know what they doing. Probably using TOR or even a mixing services to hide their identify and that makes it hard for authorities to catch them.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Muzika on May 19, 2019, 02:30:55 PM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

if the hackers are very knowledgeable on hacking at the same time they know how to escape any loopholes on how they are able to trace then it would be hard for the authority to found them but if they only know hacking and they dont have any knowledge to make an untraceable transaction most likely they will gonna caught specially when they will use their personal address wherein they pass KYC for it.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: uray on May 19, 2019, 03:14:22 PM
if the hackers are very knowledgeable on hacking at the same time they know how to escape any loopholes on how they are able to trace then it would be hard for the authority to found them but if they only know hacking and they dont have any knowledge to make an untraceable transaction most likely they will gonna caught specially when they will use their personal address wherein they pass KYC for it.
There are levels when it comes to hacking, if someone is using a script or a method which is available online and trying his luck out and end up hacking because of a bad security or a loop hole of the system, he might not be that intelligent to understand the full impact and he can be traced, yes some of the wanna be hackers were caught but the hardcore hackers who stole large amounts are no were to be found.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: r1s2g3 on May 19, 2019, 03:45:57 PM
In many case this come to be a inside job like this:

https://www.crypto-news.in/news/breakthrough-coinsecure-hack-former-cso-admits-logging-server/

I am not able to find about current progress in this case.

you should verify if exchange is registered as a business or not. In some cases  there are scam exchanges.(no need of hack, you are directly giving money to scammers.)


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: ariyzt on May 19, 2019, 03:57:54 PM
hacking exchange market isn't something new on cryptocurrency, but thief caught? that would be something rare happend, many chase but thief walk free out of there.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Little_king on May 19, 2019, 07:11:11 PM
I think there is need to always track the hacker and get them arrest to eliminate the future occurrence , because the way it is known for not traceable makes them believe they will go free with the bad deal and if many or any that commit such are always brought to book then the other will rethink before considering it as a means of survive.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: okala on May 19, 2019, 07:45:20 PM
hacking exchange market isn't something new on cryptocurrency, but thief caught? that would be something rare happend, many chase but thief walk free out of there.
Very rarer I have not seen cryptocurrency scammers or hackers been caught before and this is the first thread am hearing such but the fact is it possible that a hacker may be trace and apprehended but it a very difficult quest and at the same time on a rarer occasions that such event have happen I hope in the future we will have more of those incidence.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Adriano2010 on May 19, 2019, 08:25:52 PM
It depends, if hackers use a wallet that not ask kyc to use it then is hard to indentify them and after to sue them and recover coins if are not selled, maybe in future exchanges should take more measures to store more safe the coins or maybe in future will be asked a video when login to see if is same person who access the exchange, but also for this a person need to give access to someone from family if something happen so the funds to not be lost.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: proTECH77 on May 19, 2019, 08:34:46 PM
hacking exchange market isn't something new on cryptocurrency, but thief caught? that would be something rare happend, many chase but thief walk free out of there.

Some hackers aren't good enough for tracks cover after they might have carried out their stupid act. One thing for one to hack, and another to cover the mess which seem very difficult sometime to many unprofessional hackers, which by another professional, their true identity can be reveal if they aren't good in cleaning up messes after hack. Hackers are been caught and not something difficult, if not done in a proper way.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Eraldo Coil on May 19, 2019, 09:43:09 PM
Yes, they can get caught. Here in my country there are frauds that are related to cryptocurrency and they are arrested for doing it. Which gives a bad reputation to cryptocurrency. But still, there are a lot of hackers who are not caught because of the anonymity and so meaning we have to be extra careful and not store our funds in the exchange sites.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Astvile on May 19, 2019, 10:55:17 PM
Yes ofcourse,hackers uses VPNs or different ip hiding their identity when hacking something but when a group of scammer leaves a small hole on how they hack the system and leave ip traces this is where they got arrested.But there are just some proffessional hackers that always do the work clean and leave no traces


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: rahmatullah9305 on May 20, 2019, 01:58:42 AM
Hackers will be detected, whoever they are and how sophisticated they hack sites / networks. If he hacked the company network, just waiting for a report from the company about the losses. If an investigation order is issued, law enforcement officers can follow up on this case and can use third party services to assist with the investigation. In general, the internet has two opposite sides, in reality hackers will remain anonymous. but digitally their tracks will be tracked by the providers they use.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: pushups44 on May 20, 2019, 02:16:21 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

Yes, they can be tracked using the blockchain. At some point they must convert their cryptocurrency to fiat to reap the rewards of their hack, and it is at that point that they are vulnerable. Generally, hackers who steal relatively small amounts have an easier time getting away with their crimes. The larger the amounts of the hacks, the more of a chance of getting caught and having funds frozen.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Kemarit on May 20, 2019, 02:36:33 AM
Hackers can be caught if they are not careful. Usually, those newbie hackers can easily be tracked, however, we can say that there are lots of hackers who are really above intelligent and they know their way out or at least how to cover their tracks. Maybe a good case study in the Binance hack, all eyes are on those addresses and let's see how hackers will avoid those blockchain forensics and if he/she/they will be able to exchanges those coins to fiat.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Ray55 on May 20, 2019, 03:54:28 AM
I do not think the task is so easy and in such a short time it is possible because I think hackers are smart enough. So in the same way, I think that I will take a little time, but above all, one thing that everyone knows, I also say again, "the truth will win, and hackers will get punished" It is my belief.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Micerker on May 20, 2019, 04:38:56 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
We cannot find information and arrest hackers because they have taken advantage of the Blockchain's anonymity to avoid arrested after criminal acts. We need to improve security against hackers and need a team of Altcoin platforms when they move the token to where they keep. Freezing all Altcoin that they stole will make them unable to use them, this is the most optimal measure at the moment.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: iMark on May 20, 2019, 05:00:21 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

Yes, there are some incidents of hacker stealing crypto being brought to Justice and plenty more where they walk free with pride and money. And in some instances, they were able to bring back the stolen funds without getting the hackers.
I was a little hesitant about that, even exchange sites, mining sites, ponzi sites and many of them were be a scams, and harming many people up to hundreds of bitcoins could not be pursued and captured right? You are responsible for the security of your wallet, you cannot ask for a police or a certain legal entity to catch who stole your bitcoin, because of course it will be very difficult. because of anonymous factors, especially if bitcoin illegally in your country it will make it harder. when I get theft, I just let it go.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: bittraffic on May 20, 2019, 05:07:24 AM


Not all were caught, they are aware they can be caught if they left traces so they will try not to leave traces to escape all these. Most of them got away. There some assumptions that the exchange themselves are hacking themselves but then this is hard to prove which is why a lot of the bitcoin users will just advice not to put your coins to them, this has been told over and over.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: CBANX Ltd. on May 20, 2019, 06:16:03 AM
Exchange hacked is in the news again after the Binance's $40M BTC get stolen and due to regulatory consequences hackers are still out with money and the traders and exchanges are suffering.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: bitbunnny on May 20, 2019, 06:43:51 AM


Not all were caught, they are aware they can be caught if they left traces so they will try not to leave traces to escape all these. Most of them got away. There some assumptions that the exchange themselves are hacking themselves but then this is hard to prove which is why a lot of the bitcoin users will just advice not to put your coins to them, this has been told over and over.

Everyone is making mistakes, so the hacker too and sooner or later they will be caught. But hackers are not the thing that worries me but the behaviour of exchanges. Do they refund their users in case of hacking and in what extend they protect their users. This is still the field that is not regulated enough and in most cases it depends of exchange's good will.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: sheenshane on May 20, 2019, 09:10:06 AM
The authorities studied enough to be good at catching those people so it is a yes for me.

There will always a moment where the criminals would make a move to make them caught. The authorities won't stop until they can finish all the cases given to them. Also, the authorities do their best to improve and develop the security of their people. So sooner or later, hackers will not be able to run with them.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: shesheboy on May 20, 2019, 11:13:21 AM
The authorities studied enough to be good at catching those people so it is a yes for me.
Catching criminals is not easy because some criminals are slick . Authorities were only good at catching criminals offline because they can find evidence easily while its hard to hunt for criminals online because there are alot of tools that a criminal can use to hide its identity 

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The authorities won't stop until they can finish all the cases given to them.
authorities are only humans they are not robots , they also feel tired . Some cases cant be solved and will only be considered as a closed cased if if its really hard to solved  .


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: roosbit on May 20, 2019, 03:36:16 PM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
Cryptocurrencies aren't so easy to trace but If ever someone is caught, this could either be a chance for the exchange to use these guys services to help test and fix the weaknesses of the platform or choose to get this person punished if found guilty by the courts.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Romeoetin on May 20, 2019, 05:45:59 PM
If they are caught, I think it defiles the purpose of cryptocurrency that is being anonymous. However, most hackers are smart enough to avoid leaving any form of trace back in a case of successful hack.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: figmentofmyass on May 20, 2019, 06:10:38 PM
But hackers are not the thing that worries me but the behaviour of exchanges. Do they refund their users in case of hacking and in what extend they protect their users. This is still the field that is not regulated enough and in most cases it depends of exchange's good will.

goodwill matters, but the most important thing is operating reserves. if an exchange already has the money to compensate users, they can quickly recover and go on, business as usual. it should only take binance a couple months to recover from this.

futures exchanges have always had insurance funds in case of oversized liquidations the book can't handle. this comes from commissions charged to traders. same thing within binance in this case---a portion of their operating profits from commissions was held in reserve (rather than paid out as dividends/profits to shareholders). coinbase has another approach, which is an actual insurance policy on their online funds.

it's vital that exchanges hold insurance/reserves above and beyond their hot wallet exposure because all exchanges can eventually be hacked. exchanges that fail to do so will go the way of cryptopia, unable to compensate their customers and therefore unable to recover. :-\


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Anonylz on May 20, 2019, 07:25:43 PM
In my few years in crypto, with all the exchange that has been hacked over a period of time, never have i heard where the hackers involved where cut, this is one of downside of blockchain, things are not as transparent as it is outside the blockchain, it is nearly impossible to be able to trace those wallet to any identity, as much as it would be great to apprehend the culprit, unfortunately it looks impossible.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Sithara007 on May 21, 2019, 03:52:58 AM
Even if the hackers are caught, the victims may need to wait for a few years to see any of their hard earned coins again. Look at what happened to Mt Gox. Out of the BTC850,000 that was stolen, around BTC200,000 was recovered. But rather than refunding this amount to the exchange users, the bankruptcy authorities used it to fund the legal process and then converted a large part of this stash to fiat at very low prices. But this process has been going on for 5 years and it may take another 2-4 years before the users get any sort of a refund.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Netnox on May 21, 2019, 07:25:45 AM
If they are caught, I think it defiles the purpose of cryptocurrency that is being anonymous. However, most hackers are smart enough to avoid leaving any form of trace back in a case of successful hack.

Satoshi never claimed that Bitcoin is 100% anonymous, when he invented it in 2009. If that was the case, then why all the transactions are stored in the Blockchain? But even then, complete anonymity is possible as long as you are not converting your Bitcoins to fiat. If fiat is not involved, then no once can trace your Bitcoin wallet back to you.

The hackers will be caught, sooner or later. They are greedy and they would be looking forward to cashout their coins. At some point the authorities will be able to link a fiat bank account with the wallets they are using.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Apes on May 21, 2019, 09:01:26 AM
I'm not sure they can be arrested. the exchange breaker syndicate has operated often but as far as I know no one has succeeded in arresting them.
in my opinion I'm sure they are very organized, teamwork, they are very good in removing wallet and coin traces.
but it is not impossible that one day they will be caught, and take responsibility for their actions.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: LuckyBtc on May 21, 2019, 01:44:42 PM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
Those hackers rarely get identified or arrested, They're good at laundering or hiding the hacked coins. There are only few cases where hackers have been caught and jailed. The much safer way to protect ourselves is to go fully decentralized.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 21, 2019, 08:55:02 PM
I think that if, it is taken as a computer crime and that has its penalty at the level of laws, I believe that worldwide in any country can be judged under undue use of capital that are foreign.

I think everything changes when it is discovered that the hacker or thief is located via IP and the FBI is looking for him, because it is more secure to impose the charges, but I think that if they should be arrested, so far I have not seen any thieves. bitcoin behind bars, but there have been many robberies that have caused this economy and everything is because they leave some traces in some places, such as addresses, that is why many people prefer to be always anonymous.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: proTECH77 on May 21, 2019, 09:01:50 PM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
Those hackers rarely get identified or arrested, They're good at laundering or hiding the hacked coins. There are only few cases where hackers have been caught and jailed. The much safer way to protect ourselves is to go fully decentralized.

Totally agree with you, but sometime they are caught becasue of their inability to cover their tracks after carryout their hacks. One thing is to hack, and another is to clean up the environment without any trace, if there is/are trace, then they will be caught and jail or be arrested.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on May 21, 2019, 09:48:12 PM
In most cases it's almost impossible to catch the hacker because they are smart and know how to do their job so that no one can trace them. There have been cases where hackers have been caught after hacking something but that's something that rarely happens and it's usually when talking about a small hack where they are not so careful anymore.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: minersday on May 21, 2019, 10:32:21 PM
From the observations I have made on Exchange platforms been hacked, most often hackers responsible for the hack are normally not caught.  In as much that transactions made by the hackers are been traced, majority of these transactions trace led to a dead end. Considering the recent hack on the binance exchange platform, the wallet containing the stolen Bitcoin has all the transactions made but its difficult to trace and identify the hackers behind the hack.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Cuk0ng_bitc0in on May 21, 2019, 10:38:43 PM
I don't get information about that.  but I got news about crypto fraud.  like the Belgian government caught a team involved in Onecoin. that coin has a ponzi concept.  and it is very dangerous to harm many people.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: raden1922 on May 22, 2019, 12:46:37 PM
So far I have never heard directly about the arrest of a thief who hacked an exchange account or wallet. I hope the thieves will be arrested and processed legally, because hacking is very detrimental and disturbing. Don't give space to the hacker's account and stay alert to any fraudulent mode. After hearing news about hacking at binance, I will continue to be more careful.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Nellayar on May 22, 2019, 01:05:48 PM
It seems like cryptopia is that exchange. lol. But I found some news that cryptopia hackers also withdraw the 2000 ethereum recently. I do not know if that news is legit or not. I just saw it from the telegram. However, it is good to see that those thieves were in vain. And they must be! Since many small investors and traders are affected. They must be caught and punished so that no one will do it the same thing.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: mitchr4 on May 22, 2019, 01:19:32 PM
For these hackers there is no doubt about their greatness in hacking one of the big Exchange. They are certainly smart and won't leave a trace though. Moreover, they take huge amounts of money. There will be punishment for these hackers if found out. And I think they won't be negligent in doing the action. I think the exchange will not make compensation for its users, which is why don't store money on exchanges.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: ccryptopark on May 22, 2019, 06:02:07 PM
They would need to have compliance implemented into their exchange. AML companies like ciphertrace can work together with KYC firms to identify the location of the wallet and over time the who


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Lily_Olive on May 22, 2019, 08:15:40 PM
Yeah may be some are arrested i am not sure, but it is very  difficult  to find  out any unauthorized  person..  because they do their work very secretly and they are very clever.. very hard to identify them. They used many softwares which we think usable but indeed they are useless..hope so they must caught..


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Nanagyasi on May 22, 2019, 11:09:57 PM
I'm yet to see one happening. It will be very difficult to trace and arrest these culprits. They are definitely too smart and genius in what they do so it will be very hard. We hope one of these days, they identify one and arrest a hacker


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on May 22, 2019, 11:20:53 PM
For these hackers there is no doubt about their greatness in hacking one of the big Exchange. They are certainly smart and won't leave a trace though. Moreover, they take huge amounts of money. There will be punishment for these hackers if found out. And I think they won't be negligent in doing the action. I think the exchange will not make compensation for its users, which is why don't store money on exchanges.
Hackers are definitely smart but I think the real problem is with the security of exchanges because that's exactly the reason why hackers are targeting them. Exchanges have to be smarter than hackers and find a way to protect their informations better while also create a solution for finding the identity of hackers. Sure, we might think hackers are smart and don't leave traces but in fact they do leave traces behind the only problem being we can't find them.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Twinkledoe on May 22, 2019, 11:24:50 PM
For these hackers there is no doubt about their greatness in hacking one of the big Exchange. They are certainly smart and won't leave a trace though. Moreover, they take huge amounts of money. There will be punishment for these hackers if found out. And I think they won't be negligent in doing the action. I think the exchange will not make compensation for its users, which is why don't store money on exchanges.

Very seldom that we will hear news regarding the whereabouts of thieves and if they ever get caught. And yes, most hackers know how to burn their tracks. So the bottomline, don't let your coins stay long in exchanges. It is better to store it in your own wallets.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: jerry0 on May 23, 2019, 07:00:42 AM
Do you know if they caught the people who hacked binance?


The other thing i wonder is this.  What do hackers do with these coins?  The obviously have to launder it somehow right?  I mean if they sell the btc to an exchange and then lot of money withdraw to their bank account, obviously there is suspicion on what is going on.  But of course one could say i bought a lot of btc many years ago when it was little price.  But the issue here would be they check the wallet address right?


Also in the binance hack, were users btc affected or binance btc affected only? 


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: dentolas on May 23, 2019, 07:23:47 AM
well, I have seen a few cases in which hackers are brought to justice, but these are just a handfull of small cases... never seen any responsible for major hacks behind bars... and if we think about it, these major cases are probably done by top hackers... if these guys can hack nasa and fbi, why not a crypto exchange?
But I don't think we can generalize...


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: olamidey on May 23, 2019, 08:48:53 AM
Exchange hackers brought to justice ? Maybe it's the newbie hacker. Most hackers are never caught and they get away with the stolen funds. Hackers are not dumb to live funds to CoinCasso where it can be stucked. Even if the exchange tracks the stolen funds, it can do anything except watch how the funds are being sold on the market.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: ballerin and giroud on May 23, 2019, 08:55:02 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
You can, you have autorithy to report you case if you was hacked and you know who's havker is. But so far, I haven't found an information about it maybe some cases out there ever happened. The difficult way is how you can find the hacker itself? Because you need high skill to looing for or finding the identity of a hacker.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Seth2009 on July 07, 2019, 12:01:42 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?

Since all transactions on crypto was decentralized it is hard to find out who are those hackers and scammers.. That is only the disadvantage of blockchain... We cant detect those bad guys.. So better make your funds safe..


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: fiulpro on July 07, 2019, 05:16:03 AM
Some good wallets such as :- Zebpay , coinbase etc requires you to submit some documents before you can actually Access the wallet.
Documents like :- Pan card , identity card , address proof etc
Now we all know that if someone made a transaction we can see the address it has been moved to publicly ; People who are able to correlate this address with a verified account may catch the hacker since he or she would leave trails in the blockchain.

Unfortunately then comes wallets like :- Bluewallet and such ; which does not require anything and at the same time the security is also zero. We cannot track those.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: bagalkot on July 07, 2019, 05:29:41 AM
In most of the Exchange Hacking, their is always some insider who helps the hacker to hack the exchange because without their help hackers wont be able to hack big exchanges. If you see previous exchange hacked records then you will find lot of exchange got hacked due to this reason only. In this cases it is very hard to catch the hacker as they are more smart and well prepared with outcome of problems after hacking.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: scoftagel on July 07, 2019, 06:31:42 AM

I don't know but I don't think so


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: akeegan on July 08, 2019, 03:03:21 AM
I believe they can be located through advanced blockchain forensics companies like ciphertrace


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: Siren on July 08, 2019, 03:50:20 AM
Only those not organized hackers or newbies to crypto system will be out in bars because those most hacking that happens here in this space are well knowledgeable and know what they are doing so basically this is harder to be put in captivity

Though there are instances that hackers are out in jail but only few from the many and those many is still enjoying life freely and victimizing more until now


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: ttcsalam on July 08, 2019, 05:09:40 AM
Can those hackers who steal coins from online wallets be identified and arrested? Any news before that anybody were arrested?
I think. It is possible to calculate if there is any detection of the wallet base. For example, they are transferring the wallet from a wallet to any wallet. And who have any identities with those who are involved in this transition. Then it is possible to catch. But the biggest thing is that there is no policy of law.


Title: Re: Exchange Hacked - Thief Caught?
Post by: bright4mech on July 08, 2019, 08:24:38 AM
Cryptocurrency is digital asset, which every one need to used a strong private key or password in any exchange, to enable the hacker not to penetrate in towards the exchange personal account, Therefore, it is very difficult to caught hacker if the damage has been done.