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Hi, my account has been banned.
My account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1221497

I translated many posts from Meta for Russian users and I help some users.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034783.msg45997172#msg45997172
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039132.msg46232869#msg46232869
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5055773.msg47186334#msg47186334

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5044591.msg46549275#msg46549275

And also I doing some guide
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4847449.msg43716848#msg43716848
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4805525.msg43351038#msg43351038

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4846249.msg43705350#msg43705350
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4872003.msg43884789#msg43884789


Can you help me?

Ach you plagiarised a post in your early days.
You need to prove you were an asset to the forum.
I remember some of your posts in the WO and they were not bad at all.
Maybe they forgive you - that's all the rage.

http://loyce.club/Merit/history/1221497.html
good merit history (despite QA's helping hand) got you to senior member

This member was @the WALL OBSERVER thread where I saw him and enjoyed his post, always as a solid and good member!

Hope you get your account fix't

-I also don't understand the Russian?? but from what I know a normal and good member.

I do not deny that I had a copypaste and I understand that they give him a permanent ban. I made a mistake at the beginning when I was not very familiar with the forum rules, however, having become more experienced, I knocked them out and did not break anymore, but I also helped some users. Besides, I have not recently used an account for commercial purposes. For me, this forum is very important. There are many people with whom I discuss things that are important to me. In addition, I translated in russian some posts  LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836), DdmrDdmr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1582324), Vod (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747).
Can you give me a temporary ban?
I promise that in the future I will not break the rules of the forum

Hang in there, man. The mods are working their way through a long list. It's the weekend. And your case is more difficult because of all the Russian posts...

There's a tendency now that instead of permaban there's a signature ban for copypaste, so this would be good for the OP as well.
I don't know the exact rules when will someone get a permaban and when a signature ban, but I've read several topics in Meta about it, so there's a little hope.
I saw a permaban modified to 2 months temporary ban these days too...

I would be very happy if a permanent ban was replaced with a two-month ban. And signature ban

Let's pray for that. As for me, i'm supporting unban.

Lifting ban is very unusual to happen here in the forum but mind you that admin are doing it now especially in a case where a ban user is a good poster. I do not think that OP will not get this chance to lift the ban because he is somehow a good poster. However, the standards here in the forum are not yet establish and it might be good for some users and it may be not for the admin.

Just wait and see OP if your ban will be lifted and do not forget to give thanks if it is done. Being here in the forum is a privilege where one will learn and earn.

I am yet to understand why someone will copy and paste another's sentence and thought without acknowledging it isn't originally theirs. What is difficult in doing that acknowledgment stuff if not ego and pride of admitting you aren't as smart as the writer.

I mean, I can understand spam/shit posts but plagiarism beats my imagination. It won't cost anyone anything acknowledging the source of one's post if it's copied by simply putting up a link to it. It encourages the original writer.

I guess all who are involved have now learnt their lessons.

Most russians were banned because of their English posts. If you don't want to look like "bobs and vagene" you often use simple sentences. (Indefinite, Continuous). There is enough big probability for repeating such sentences through time.
It's like some ideas (idea of telephone for example) can apear in different minds at the same time (or not the same).


Of course, if inseparable (it's important factor) sentence is larger than 7 words it's a very very little probabilty for two different sentences to coincide

Yes, I know that withdrawing a ban was very rare. I watch this thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144410.0
And my rank there was only unban two people, but they were DT1 lovesmayfamilis (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1982152) and DT2 shasan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1883627;dt) 

by looking at your post history, I saw that Xal0lex caught you for plagiarism
I notice that you have committed plagiarism in your very first post ever in the forum
and it doesn't seem to be only one, as mentioned by Xal0lex he found 5 posts
in this case I doubt you will be getting lesser punishment (temp ban + sig ban)

I communicate with forum members to lose touch with them. Here I can discuss trading information with the cool members of the forum. Almost all of my copy-paste were in the first days on the forum, I did not know the rules then. But now everything has changed. For me, this forum has become very important. In addition, I helped the forum members. Please replace me with a ban for a temporary ban.

Can you help me? Please give me temporary ban.

Best thing you can do now is being patient and wait for a global mod ala Hilarious to look into your case.

If he concludes you are of valor for this forum you might get unbanned.

Begging won't change much. Only thing left is maybe ask some people of your local forum to speak up on your behalf if they think you are a positive member of your community.

Yes I know. Still waiting and hoping that they will forgive me

up

So, your ban appeal OP did not help you to lift the ban even just for temp. ban for wearing signatures. I do not see that admin will lift the ban. If by chance you have done something extraordinary with your account and post it here to prove that you are worth in the forum then do it. This is the only way to prove yourself worth for the forum. If none, then learn to accept the fact that this forum has been a bygone to you OP.

Bump

Free kirreev, lol.
It's time to unban useful users, admins.

I don't know about that.

We can look at it probabilistically with different words and you'll get a small percentage but that's only if you're considering the entire space of words that could be generated.
If you look at it, however, by what words are likely to follow, you'll have similar sentences

Consider a short reply to something like, "recent bull run thoughts?" (general thread)

The recent bull run * 4 words that would be common frequency
has/is/was (common options)
a/an (common articles)
(adjective)
(rest of sentence)

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r9k collapses pretty quickly when you're not diving deep into topics.

I looked at the history of messages kirreev070 and did not find anything wrong. In the fight against plagiarism and spam it is easy to reach the point of absurdity, and to punish with a ban even for self-plagiarism, which is almost impossible to avoid in a long history of messages. My opinion is that isolated cases of plagiarism should not be punished with a ban, only systemic chronic abuse. The spirit of freedom is inherent in crypto-anarchy, and the freedom to quote freely is one of its facets. Plz unbun, tnx.

p.s. Sorry for my not perfect english, this is not my native language.

I want to support kirreev070. Many Russian-speaking users do not know English and kirreev070's translated topics helped such users. Basically, he communicated in the English language thread on the analysis, so he supports so few Russian-speaking users. kirreev070 does not look like a scammer or troll. It is clear that this does not justify the case of plagiarism, but I think that kirreev070 can be given a second chance.

#freekireev070

+1.

Although, on the other hand... Sometimes it seems to me that this bumping will be eternal, until users get bored, the topic will not be missed down and everyone will forget. As if a person did not exist at all...

xal0lex posted his findings in the thread I quoted above
scroll down a bit in that thread, post #10 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143629.msg51079143#msg51079143), to see the 5 plagiarised posts

if it was a single post of plagiarism maybe he can get away with only a temp ban
but he has several plagiarised posts, that means he did it conciously and repeatedly

Moderators help, it was a terrible mistake. I understand what she stood for me. Please replace me ban on signature ban. I will continue to prevent this from happening. It's been almost 3 months.

Saw your profile at bpip.org, kirreev070 (https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=kirreev070).

You've done something helpful in your community especially local board and I hope they lift the ban to your account.
Gonna help to bump your account so the admin can notice your appeal. I know the feeling of having a banned account with a lot of achievements so hoping for the consideration of them.

Guys, please help. I’ve been in the ban almost 4 months now. I still go to the forum and continue to read various threads. I made a terrible mistake and please forgive me. Some of my threads continue to live, and participants read them. Today I was very pleased to see this my thread Users with Custom Title (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046812.0) and I really do not have enough communication on the forum. In life, I am a rather reserved person, and the forum helped me communicate with different people and overcome some of my barriers.

Please give me a second chance.

So, this is the reason why the thread was sleeping. Many has provided you support so I guess this will have a better result, you can simply message them (patrol group).
 I wish you luck buddy.

kirreev0707 asked me (by PM) to respond here.

This doesn't look good indeed. However, kirreev070 doesn't look like the total spammer that turned plagiarism into a big problem, and it looks like he has contributed to this forum too.
I wouldn't be against a 2 year signature ban instead of a permban, but I also wouldn't really mind keeping a very strict policy on plagiarism. I'm glad I don't have to make those decisions.

Moderators are too busy people to answer to some little local person.

 I only know of kirreev070 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1221497) based on his participation in the Wall Observer thread as I don't speak Russian.  Based on that experience and what I have read here in this thread from his fellow Russian-speaking members, I believe he would be an asset to the forum if reinstated.  Please consider giving him a second chance.

   

From discussions I've followed on the matter of ban appeals, the forum administrators are sympathetic towards accounts that are of value to the community, but this would only count if the plagiarism was an 'innocent mistake', and not done with any; to complete a campaign task, to get merits for another's content or to increase forum activity (this would not be an issue now as activities are useless without merit(s)).

Topic bump. Admins, where you?
Also, please look at this one [UNBAN APPEAL] account FapToBbly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145164.0) this guy don't even plagiarized. I just don't want to make two bump posts.

Hilary, where you?

Only known kirreev0707 from the WO (no Russian speaker myself)

But in the WO he never spammed or didn't do anything wrong, I think he did a mistake without bad intentions .....

Bump

Yet another case of not being aware of the forum rules, something that frankly keeps changing. While it is true that there were many shitposters here before the mass ban, but surely it caught some good fish among all the stale ones that were kicked out. Kireev070 seems like one of those good ones that got caught in the whirlpool.

Dear admins, I support OP's unban appeal. Please look into it.

+1

#pleasefreekirreev

Bump

Happy Birthday Bitcointalk.org!  I heard a rumour that Bitcointalk.org wished to unban kirreev70 when it blew out the candles on its 10^th birthday cake!!  I hope the wish comes true :)
UNBAN kirreev70!

Congratulations on the 10th anniversary of the forum  :) :) :).
I've been in this forum for about two years. And during this period I have found here friends and interesting interlocutors. But I've been in a bath for almost half a year. Please give me a second chance. I really lack communication at the forum. A lot of people supported me in this topic and I am grateful to them for it.
After all, some users have been given a second chance. Give it to me and I'm asking you to do it. Still, I'm not a cheater, I made a mistake. But I was a useful forum. I have one account and I cherish it, I did not break the rules and register a new account. I don't run a lot of bounty campaigns, I don't leave a lot of shitpost. Don't I deserve a second chance? After all half a year of the big lines and I still have hopes that I will receive unban and will be able to communicate with excellent guys with WO and the local branch.

And the truth is, it's so frustrating that I don't know what to do anymore.

Is there any chance that the moderators will answer about this case? As you can see, this user is very active and wants to stay a member of this community. Why not give him a second chance? I believe that he has already realized his mistakes and will not make them in the future. Moderators, please unban him!

Good luck for your appeal but at least you have to avoid breaking another rule of the forum.

Happy new year. :) :) :)

I do honestly think this user should earn an unbanning

When LoyceV and Actmyname are on board with your reinstatement, that says something..

One thing Theymos wants to see is having someone on your behalf post a ban appeal, stating points on why you should be un-banned as well as giving examples.

Hang tight, don't complain, be positive here, don't break any rules, think of outside the box ways you can prove your worth even further etc..if your ban is lifted, it's unlikely to be anytime soon if I had to guess.  However, I'm proof Theymos isn't an unfair overlord who rules with no empathy and or compassion. He's absolutely a reasonable guy..so hang tight, you never know. 

Thank you for the advice. And to everyone who wrote in this branch. It's been almost 10 months since my account was banned. I still believe in getting a second chance. I still believe, hope and wait;

BUMP

This has got to be the longest ban appeal i have seen around ever since i joined this forum, It's almost a year since the appeal was started  :o
The banned account must mean a lot to you.
OP, Did you get any response from the mods on what post got you banned at least?

Sorry about the ordeal thou.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097792.0
here is the longest ban appeal I've seen.

I’m struck by the persistence of this user

Yeah, I was banned for a copy paste. But that was a long time ago and in the beginning. In addition, I was an active member of the local branch and did translations of interesting information.

This is sad :( when I see trolls and spammers all time in the forum roaming freely, OP is a genuine person who committed an honest mistake and as I see he is a quality contributor to the forum. Sad it's taking much time for you :/ hopefully you will be unbanned and given another chance!

I think no one is perfect I did some copy-paste to share it on the other side of my forum out from bitcointalk like outsourcing of knowledge to educate the mass, but I have my reason it was for the sharing of knowledge purposes in my country who are not a member here for awareness. I did always ask the OP for permission first but it seems someone is deleting my asking of permission message, I also did give the credit to bitcointalk at the end of the reposting out of respect. We have our own reason and if it's for the good then don't hesitate to move but if its to damage or gain profit from it and discredit the Orig author then it is not the kind thing to do. I just hope they will forgive and unban you brother.

I wonder if this helps at all? I also had a Full Member account, and it was banned ... I talked with some people and I was advised to just forget, since it is almost impossible to unban an account

Probably you are ban evading !

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Bump for the OP !

If they didn't respond by now they probably won't.
I wouldn't call this "honest mistake", it's not like OP forget to put something under quotes or unintentionally forgot to add source, but, as there are worst cases of users who are still not banned and/or are given second chance, I believe this user should get second chance in the form of "signature ban".

As for their posts, I've read some of them in WO topic and they are funny, there are some good topics started by this user as well, some scam accusations and so on, so that should be another reason to remove permaban.

Happy May Day!

 Unban kirreev0707!

Happy Vesak!  The celebration of the birth of Buddha day is marked by the first full moon in May which occured today.   Coincidentally, there is a full moon in Bitcoin as well! 

 Bring back kirreev070 so he can celebrate with us!

I support unban for this user. He was doing a lot of good posts, and he waited honestly for over a year.

As for me, this is an interesting case, from which we can conclude that the highest administration of the forum simply does not give a shit about users.

Seven days to go, and it'll be exactly one year.

This is not true at all.  Both Hilarious and Theymos went well out of the normal way of doing things to start allowing people to be given another chance if they were permanently banned but seen as a net positive to the community as a whole.  Theymos did lay out some guidelines ( like having someone else start an un-ban appeal on behalf of the banned user)..not sure that's happened here yet.  

It's been exactly a year since I created this branch. And just over a year since I've been banned.  I've been supported by a lot of people, and I'm very grateful to them. I've been honest with the rules and I haven't created any other accounts. I'm still waiting to get a second chance. But it seems to me that the administration of the forum is not reading my branch. And I even feel a little offended, because some appeals were dealt with very quickly, and I don't think mine were dealt with at all. In addition, some have already run out of even the punishment after the ban.

I think you can say something about this second account? Forum rules prohibit having a second account after another has been banned.

https://i.ibb.co/xXgGLWd/2020-05-18-15-59-57.png (https://ibb.co/vVdmqpR)

ban evasion😜🔫.

1jaffa1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1136730)    Autoban user (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=1jaffa1)
kirreev070 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1221497)



In addition, there are intersections with another wallet ETH wallet: 0xCFF735391Ecd1Ffbb8C1ECDdA18338c332c5f6C0


https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0x5Ac64e5F1374F15B8d5E663132c0B5283925aB00&p=1

https://i.ibb.co/8NBgWQZ/2020-05-15-23-01-01.png (https://ibb.co/GnJQKrS)

https://i.ibb.co/R7cqq2q/2020-05-18-15-59-57.png (https://ibb.co/CWQffBf)

Hi, it's been more than a year and a half since my ban.I'm still hoping to get unbaned.  I know the chances are slim.  I read the forum and would very much like to be able to communicate on the forum again.

As for the account 1jaffa1 it's my roommate's account. I was at university at the time and we lived in the dorm together.And from time to time we sent tokens to each other. Sometimes I would take his telegram account.

Good afternoon, everyone. It's been over 4 years since I got the ban. I know I have almost no chance of being unbanned. But I ask you to consider my appeal and unban my account,

You can have a second chance if you have good net contribution effect on this forum. If you have it, you could be unbanned years ago.

Net contribution effect is from your banned account before it was banned permanently so I am very sure that in the last four years, you did not have any contribution to be unbanned.

Some accounts banned already receives a second chance of getting unbanned if reconsidered through the extent they have contributed to the forum before they were banned, just as tranthidung have suggested to you, net contributions is very important in this aspect which they nay use to consider you, some members being banned also may be a temporary one, but in most cases of permanent ban, most accounts don't get unbanned except on rare occasion a consideration is given to their net forum contributions.