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Title: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: Crypto_Sassy on May 16, 2019, 03:49:28 PM
Recently I am thinking of privacy. I understand that I need to use tor browser + VPN. I downloaded the tor browser for free but I am not sure about the VPNs.

In some articles that I read , they say that free VPN actually save your logs to sell it and not reliable at all. Good VPN connections are not cheap at all. Actually I do not require VPN as such but I like to use it. I am looking for free or very cheap VPN. My location is in India.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: Bitlover10 on May 16, 2019, 04:29:01 PM
I am using VPN very often. If you using android phone then I will recommend you proxy VPN. It's already downloaded in my mobile and works very well. It's free to use but you can face some advertisements on your screen but once your VPN is connected then advertisements is not bothered you. They give you two options for using it first option is free and second option is VIP where you need to pay somthing. Here is the link of that app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.freevpn.unblock.proxy hope its help you.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: yesiam6 on May 16, 2019, 04:54:37 PM
There seem to be a lot of 3 dollar for 2 year nordvpn accounts in the marketplace subforum / digital goods
don't use free vpn's and don't use tor for normal browsing either.
With free VPN's most of the times your data is the payment (every site you've visited etc.) so you should think twice about using those services.
Tor isn't recommendable for daily use because of the constant blocking of ip's you won't even be able to use google and other sites and some sites will even ban your accounts if you login through tor
So my suggestion is buying a VPN Account in the marketplace subforum from a well reputated seller, i guess.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: Wafilian on May 16, 2019, 05:10:45 PM
https://touchvpn.net
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/touch-vpn/bihmplhobchoageeokmgbdihknkjbknd?hl=en
Try this one its totally free i am using it without any problem.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: bozzy on May 16, 2019, 05:19:23 PM
Keep an eye out on Nord VPN.  They often have special pricing where you get a three year subscription for the price of one or something like that. If you can find a lifetime subscription to them even better. They are a little more expensive than some of the other ones, but I think that they do a good job of protecting your data and because they are getting paid they just put out a better product in general.  I can use their VPN service on any OS and any device.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: LeGaulois on May 16, 2019, 05:53:36 PM
Either you use a browser add-on (zenmate,etc...), which isn't really good to use for some things, either you buy a cheap one.
You can make a cheap private VPN for $2 per month or buy during the special discounts days.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: feryjhie on May 16, 2019, 06:22:14 PM
maybe you can use hola.org (https://hola.org/) for free and it works for many platforms from firefox/chrome/android too
and if you still think that's not enough then you can use TOR Browser (https://www.torproject.org/)


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: yesiam6 on May 16, 2019, 06:55:35 PM
maybe you can use hola.org (https://hola.org/) for free and it works for many platforms from firefox/chrome/android too
and if you still think that's not enough then you can use TOR Browser (https://www.torproject.org/)
Please never use Hola !!!
https://thebestvpn.com/reviews/hola-vpn/
a few examples that are not pretty
-they’re logging everything about your internet activity + all of your personal information

-Proxy Tunneling, Security Risks, No Encryption

https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/29/8685251/hola-vpn-botnet-selling-users-bandwidth
-it used to sell YOUR bandwith to a botnet so basically if somebody did something illegal with your bandwith you would've been liable for that crime, it claims that it doesn't do that anymore but would you really trust somebody that did such a big misstep?


Please if you must use something free , at least don't use hola which is proven to be extremely shady



Unlike most member, i'd rather suggest you use Tor, especially if you don't want spend of money on VPN. Free VPN obviously sell user's personal information/data, otherwise how can they offer their VPN for free.

Tor isn't recommendable for daily use because of the constant blocking of ip's you won't even be able to use google and other sites and some sites will even ban your accounts if you login through tor

That also apply to VPN/Proxy, CloudFlare (and similar services) also blocks IP from VPN & proxy these days.
I don't have any problems surfing the web with my VPN, other than even worse and shittier google recaptcha's that are at times almost impossible to solve
the ip ranges from most vpn providers get refreshed every once in a while so it's clean, and the bigger VPN providers also offer a lot of locations like 2000+ so that shouldn't be an issue for the average user.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: feryjhie on May 16, 2019, 06:59:22 PM
Please if you must use something free , at least don't use hola which is proven to be extremely shady

thank you for your info, because it's my first time read these articles and currently i already uninstall the Hola extension.
for now, i just stick to TOR browser for Free VPN


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 16, 2019, 07:41:10 PM
I would rather use no VPN before I uses a free VPN. Free VPNs will almost certainly be logging, storing and selling your data to make a profit. If you are not paying for, you are the product, as the old saying goes.

There are plenty of VPN's out there that won't break the bank; 40 or 50 bucks for a year, which works out as less than a dollar a week. I would recommend the following two sites to start your research in to which VPN is best for you: https://www.privacytools.io/providers/vpn/ and https://thatoneprivacysite.net/.

On the latter site, if you click on "Detailed VPN Comparison", you can then sort by price so you can filter out the more expensive ones and only compare the logging, security, location, etc., of the ones within your price range.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: LTU_btc on May 16, 2019, 09:21:51 PM
maybe you can use hola.org (https://hola.org/) for free and it works for many platforms from firefox/chrome/android too
and if you still think that's not enough then you can use TOR Browser (https://www.torproject.org/)
It's not adviced to use Hola, you can read why here:
https://vpn-services.bestreviews.net/three-years-after-the-controversy-what-is-the-current-state-of-hola/
It works as a botnet and they are even selling data of users. Your IP can be even used for some shady and illegal things. Offcourse, if you don't care about your privacy you can use it. Hola is a free service, but offcourse it costs to run it. If there are no fee, they earn money from their users in other ways...
If you really need VPN, you need to buy subscription of one of paid services like NordVPN, it's not expensive at all.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: jademaxsuy on May 17, 2019, 12:01:43 AM
Here in our local vpn is cheap and it doea onlt required minimum payment monthly to start enjoying the service. I have tried it before unfortunately i stop using the service because of technical problem that arises from time to time like updates and need to re install again. It is a trouble some when I badly need an internet connection but it will just pop up that application needs an update. So you will start again downloading updated files and spend some regular load foe the data needed for the download.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: Remax on May 18, 2019, 05:47:25 PM
So for free vpn, tor browser is the best choice?


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: seoincorporation on May 18, 2019, 06:02:16 PM
A free VPN isn't easy to get, you can get free proxys, if you use TOR what you get is a free proxy not a free VPN. So, for what you need it? If you want it for a simple task like look a video, then use a proxy, but if you want it to loggin in some services, then you should pay for some VPN who protect your privacy.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 18, 2019, 06:03:18 PM
So for free vpn, tor browser is the best choice?
Although they have many of the same goals in mind - increased privacy, anonymity, encryption of web traffic, etc. - VPNs and Tor are not the same thing. They have some subtle and some quite important differences, and achieve their goals through quite different methods. This article is a good place to start to learn the differences: https://thebestvpn.com/tor-vs-vpn/

No one can answer what the "best choice" is for you, because it depends on a lot of factors such as your geographic location, what your online activities are, what you are looking to achieve by using one or the other, things like that. However, if you have no budget, then using Tor (which is free) is far superior to using nothing or using a free VPN. (Using a free VPN may actually be inferior to using nothing, as they are almost certainly collecting and selling your data to make a profit).


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: r1a2y3m4 on May 18, 2019, 06:26:19 PM
There seem to be a lot of 3 dollar for 2 year nordvpn accounts in the marketplace subforum / digital goods
For 2 year? Wow, where can I avail that? For what I know Nordvpn offers 3 dollars per month? I tried Nordvpn and it is good for what I've experienced.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 18, 2019, 06:42:54 PM
For what I know Nordvpn offers 3 dollars per month?
You are correct that that is their best deal at the moment. I suspect most of the VPN accounts being sold have been hacked, phished, or otherwise stolen. NordVPN allows 6 devices to be used at once on each account, so it is quite possible that someone who is only using it on two or three devices at once (computer, phone, tablet, for example) could have their username and password stolen, and have someone else logged in to a couple of more devices on their account without ever realising it.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on May 18, 2019, 09:06:13 PM

Tor isn't recommendable for daily use because of the constant blocking of ip's you won't even be able to use google and other sites and some sites will even ban your accounts if you login through tor

That also apply to VPN/Proxy, CloudFlare (and similar services) also blocks IP from VPN & proxy these days.
I use a VPN all the time, and I can't recall the last time CF has blocked me, or even a specific time they ever blocked me. The only thing using a VPN has ever resulted in me getting blocked from is Netflix.

If you are concerned about logs, and you are in a country with weak free speech protections, you can rent a VPS located in a country with strong free speech protections, and setup a private VPN server with OpenVPN. This will not guarantee absolute anonymity, and you will probably be uncovered if you are doing something harmful to other people. 


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: naska21 on May 19, 2019, 04:22:04 AM
From where I sit...good start is to install the latest release of openvpn client (https://openvpn.net/community-downloads/) which, moreover, is free, and to find out UDP/TCP access packages pertaining to openvpn servers scattered all around the world, just google and you are on top.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: Thanasis on May 19, 2019, 05:51:45 AM
Recently I am thinking of privacy. I understand that I need to use tor browser + VPN. I downloaded the tor browser for free but I am not sure about the VPNs.

In some articles that I read , they say that free VPN actually save your logs to sell it and not reliable at all. Good VPN connections are not cheap at all. Actually I do not require VPN as such but I like to use it. I am looking for free or very cheap VPN. My location is in India.
You can get tons of VPN for free on any platforms like android and Windows,just go to the market apps and type free VPN software then you will get some apps with premium services by paying for it.I am using HOXX and HOLA on my browsers and turbo VPN on my android so you also can check those free softwares.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: r1s2g3 on May 19, 2019, 01:25:40 PM
Recently I am thinking of privacy. I understand that I need to use tor browser + VPN. I downloaded the tor browser for free but I am not sure about the VPNs.

In some articles that I read , they say that free VPN actually save your logs to sell it and not reliable at all. Good VPN connections are not cheap at all. Actually I do not require VPN as such but I like to use it. I am looking for free or very cheap VPN. My location is in India.
You can get tons of VPN for free on any platforms like android and Windows,just go to the market apps and type free VPN software then you will get some apps with premium services by paying for it.I am using HOXX and HOLA on my browsers and turbo VPN on my android so you also can check those free softwares.


If you are still using hola than you have not paid attention to previous post in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143987.msg51083969#msg51083969


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Image: According to the free VPN Hoxx’s privacy policy, “By using the Services, You acknowledge, consent and agree that we may collect, process, and use the information that you provide to us and that such information shall only be used by us or third parties…”

You  seriously need to read the below articles before you tell anybody to use Hola,Hoxx or turboVpn.

https://www.vpnmentor.com/blog/free-vpns-are-not-safe-to-use/
https://www.vpnmentor.com/reviews/turbo-vpn/

PS: Stop using them.





Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: leowonderful on May 19, 2019, 01:47:05 PM
I currently use Tunnelbear which charges around $60 per year for a yearly subscription and around $10/month for a monthly subscription, and the VPN works very well for what it is. Much better speed than what I've gotten on any free VPN, and there's decent customizeability in the software as well on Windows. I've tried using NordVPN on my computer as well, but it just never connected for me on my Windows desktop and I was never able to resolve the problem so I can't speak for how great Nord is, though they seem to have decent pricing for longer-term subscriptions from what I can see on their page right now.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 19, 2019, 02:06:18 PM
I've just come across the fact that ProtonVPN have launched a free VPN (https://protonvpn.com/). ProtonMail are pretty well regarded as being a very secure and privacy focused email provider, and it seems their VPN is getting similarly good reviews. The free VPN is subsidized by users paying for the fully functional VPN, but still provides unlimited data. It's main limitations are you can only use one device at a time, and you can only user servers in the US, Japan, or the Netherlands (the first being a 5-eyes country, the second in co-operation with 5-eyes, and the third a 9-eyes country, so not a great selection).

So while still inferior to a paid VPN, it seems to be miles ahead in terms of privacy and no-logging compared to other free VPNs. Might be an option for those who can't afford a paid VPN (although there are some very cheap good ones out there).

Note: I have never used ProtonVPN.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: r1a2y3m4 on May 19, 2019, 02:41:02 PM
For what I know Nordvpn offers 3 dollars per month?
You are correct that that is their best deal at the moment. I suspect most of the VPN accounts being sold have been hacked, phished, or otherwise stolen. NordVPN allows 6 devices to be used at once on each account, so it is quite possible that someone who is only using it on two or three devices at once (computer, phone, tablet, for example) could have their username and password stolen, and have someone else logged in to a couple of more devices on their account without ever realising it.
Exactly. I applied many vpns before and some of those vpn are good as a hack for sim card here in my country. But all of those are just good for 1 account per device. It was a little expensive than nord it was $5. But I chose nord as my vpn. My family are using it also in downloading torrents.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on May 19, 2019, 04:27:24 PM
From where I sit...good start is to install the latest release of openvpn client (https://openvpn.net/community-downloads/) which, moreover, is free, and to find out UDP/TCP access packages pertaining to openvpn servers scattered all around the world, just google and you are on top.
I don't think you know what you are talking about.

There may be many servers running OpenVPN software, but OpenVPN is not a service that requires the user to use the OpenVPN client to connect, nor is it a service at all. Although the software allows for this, I am not aware of anyone publicly running an OpenVPN server for the purpose of allowing the public to connect.

Further, when using a VPN, you are relying on the reputation of the provider to not do bad things like keep logs or otherwise invade your privacy. Using a "random" VPN server will not allow you to do that because the "random" server will have no reputation.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on May 19, 2019, 05:21:35 PM
I use a VPN all the time, and I can't recall the last time CF has blocked me, or even a specific time they ever blocked me. The only thing using a VPN has ever resulted in me getting blocked from is Netflix.

That also depends how website owner configure cloudflare. Most times, VPN and Tor user are required to solve reCAPTCHA many times (up to 20 times, while you only need to do it 1-2 times if you don't use VPN, Tor or public internet connection).

Few example :
https://airvpn.org/topic/23090-cloudflare-often-bans-my-ip-address/ (https://airvpn.org/topic/23090-cloudflare-often-bans-my-ip-address/)
https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/19778/suddenly-cloudflare-captchas-everywhere (https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/forum/discussion/19778/suddenly-cloudflare-captchas-everywhere)
Yes, using TOR can be very annoying when it comes to having to complete the reCAPTCHA many times.

I personally use Private Internet Access (they are one of the first VPN providers to accept bitcoin), and have not had issues with CF reCAPTCHA, or with CF banning my (VPN) IP address. This includes websites that it was known were under a current DDoS attack. The threads you cited are only two examples out of billions of user experiences.
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If you are concerned about logs, and you are in a country with weak free speech protections, you can rent a VPS located in a country with strong free speech protections, and setup a private VPN server with OpenVPN. This will not guarantee absolute anonymity, and you will probably be uncovered if you are doing something harmful to other people. 

I'd avoid "Black box" solution if possible.
Do you care to elaborate why you don't like this?


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on May 19, 2019, 06:06:22 PM
I'd avoid "Black box" solution if possible.
Do you care to elaborate why you don't like this?

TLDR version : there's no way to verify VPN provider don't log your data.
That is actually always a problem.

What I was describing is actually installing (open source) software on a VPS you control/purchased, and connecting to said VPS. The datacenter where the VPS is housed, or the VPS provider could look at your VPS instance, and create logs, but I believe this risk is fairly low.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 19, 2019, 06:07:49 PM
In past, whether i use Tor / VPN, i need fill 10-20 reCAPTCHA even to access this forum happen everyday and change IP or exit node many times just to access a website.
This is the bane of my life, but there are very few website which I need to access so desperately I'll complete 20 captchas. I'll quite happily look elsewhere long before I start disabling aspects of my security or privacy.

TLDR version : there's no way to verify VPN provider don't log your data.
True. There have been some VPN providers which have been subpoenaed (or their jurisdiction's equivalent) to supply logs, and have had to prove therefore that they had no logs to provide. This is obviously retrospective, and while a good metric to consider, just as in the world of finance, past performance doesn't guarantee future results.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: Mike Mayor on May 19, 2019, 10:40:55 PM
With windscreenVPN you get 15gb a month. With traffic bear you get 500mb but another 500mb if you tweet for them once a month. You are limited to which countries you can use.
DO not trust free vpn they just crap and not safe.

You can get good VPN like cyberghost for $3 a month if you get a 3 year contract. I have a 3 years contract with them and they great.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: Thanasis on May 20, 2019, 03:37:31 AM
Recently I am thinking of privacy. I understand that I need to use tor browser + VPN. I downloaded the tor browser for free but I am not sure about the VPNs.

In some articles that I read , they say that free VPN actually save your logs to sell it and not reliable at all. Good VPN connections are not cheap at all. Actually I do not require VPN as such but I like to use it. I am looking for free or very cheap VPN. My location is in India.
You can get tons of VPN for free on any platforms like android and Windows,just go to the market apps and type free VPN software then you will get some apps with premium services by paying for it.I am using HOXX and HOLA on my browsers and turbo VPN on my android so you also can check those free softwares.


If you are still using hola than you have not paid attention to previous post in this thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143987.msg51083969#msg51083969


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Image: According to the free VPN Hoxx’s privacy policy, “By using the Services, You acknowledge, consent and agree that we may collect, process, and use the information that you provide to us and that such information shall only be used by us or third parties…”

You  seriously need to read the below articles before you tell anybody to use Hola,Hoxx or turboVpn.

https://www.vpnmentor.com/blog/free-vpns-are-not-safe-to-use/
https://www.vpnmentor.com/reviews/turbo-vpn/

PS: Stop using them.




I did used them years ago bit not anymore,that is why I am not aware of their policy changes by the way thank you for letting me know.

Now I am using only the paid premium version of hotspot shield VPN which is actually pretty good VPN in my experience.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 20, 2019, 11:59:59 AM
Now I am using only the paid premium version of hotspot shield VPN which is actually pretty good VPN in my experience.
There were some stories a couple of years ago that Hotspot shield was redirecting its VPN users via some third party partner websites, affiliates, and ad companies. It was also placing tracking cookies on their users as a way to serve them with targeted advertising, and also injecting JavaScript in to their users browsers. I don't know if they have since cleaned up their act, but I would be very careful about relying on Hotspot shield for any real privacy.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/07/hotspot_shield_deceives_with_false_privacy_promises_complaint_claims/
https://www.zdnet.com/article/privacy-group-accuses-hotspot-shield-of-snooping-on-web-traffic/


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: Ridaa on May 20, 2019, 12:26:20 PM
pissipon is free and very easy to use as well. I even downloaded spotify from it.


Title: Re: How to get cheap or free VPN.
Post by: Crypto_Sassy on May 20, 2019, 06:35:25 PM
I think out of all option only proton VPN can be worth of look.

Whatever I researched, it is always against for using free VPN. Thanks all for the reply.