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Title: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 19, 2019, 10:23:57 PM
Why do none of the world leaders agree that we need to stop the free press of fiat? That it enslaves the common man who is actually working. I will vote for whoever has the balls to step up and say we need a soft reset, but I rather vote myself not vote people to vote for me.


DECENTRALIZED VOTING

https://i.imgur.com/haz02ll.png



EVERYONE MAKING THE MONEY SUPPLY VIA DURATION/TIME AT A FAIR RATE
https://i.imgur.com/NHvIH7i.png
www.bitswift.cash


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2019, 10:37:12 PM
It's Constitutionally illegal for government to tax you based directly on your income. So, the IRS taxes you an excise tax based on your income to determine how much this tax will be. They simply call it the income tax, when it is really an excise tax, the value of which is determined by your income.

Since barter is a difficult thing to do, but money makes things easier, let's bypass both money and bitcoin/altcoins. Lets do like you do when you check for airline flights, and do like the IRS, simply basing things on money, but not using money at all.

What I mean is, let's build a database of all the products that exist... comparing them all with each other... not only airline prices. For example, you want to buy a refrigerator. You have the brand and model all lined up. You check for prices around the world, and you compare freight costs. But you only make this comparison in dollars, because it is easy to base it in dollars.

You find the refrigerator you want with shipping costs that are reasonable. But you don't have any money. Rather you have an occupation that is considered worth yyy amount of dollars per hour. You trade as many banked work hours that it takes to pay for the refrigerator and shipping. You don't use money at all, except to compare value.

This can be done by computer, and nobody would ever have to use money again.

8)


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 19, 2019, 10:42:35 PM
It's Constitutionally illegal for government to tax you based directly on your income. So, the IRS taxes you an excise tax based on your income to determine how much this tax will be. They simply call it the income tax, when it is really an excise tax, the value of which is determined by your income.

Since barter is a difficult thing to do, but money makes things easier, let's bypass both money and bitcoin/altcoins. Lets do like you do when you check for airline flights, and do like the IRS, simply basing things on money, but not using money at all.

What I mean is, let's build a database of all the products that exist... comparing them all with each other... not only airline prices. For example, you want to buy a refrigerator. You have the brand and model all lined up. You check for prices around the world, and you compare freight costs. But you only make this comparison in dollars, because it is easy to base it in dollars.

You find the refrigerator you want with shipping costs that are reasonable. But you don't have any money. Rather you have an occupation that is considered worth yyy amount of dollars per hour. You trade as many banked work hours that it takes to pay for the refrigerator and shipping. You don't use money at all, except to compare value.

This can be done by computer, and nobody would ever have to use money again.

8)

Time is money, you don`t need money, duration is the money.
because it is easier to base it in time.
https://community.timebanks.org/

A good chair is 30 minutes, a bad chair is 10 minutes.

This is all up to what a seller wants to sell and a buying is willing to pay for it.
My bushel of peaches this year are worth 3 hours or 3 time tokens.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: coins4commies on May 19, 2019, 10:44:30 PM
Those points are still considered property and subject to taxes probably gift tax.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 19, 2019, 10:46:14 PM
Those points are still considered property and subject to taxes probably gift tax.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5141757.0
Our religion states we don`t get taxed.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 19, 2019, 11:30:05 PM
https://twitter.com/BitswiftC/status/1129156859426947080
1.26Million #CASH tokens now exist in circulation. Inflation in the hands of the users participating. From the bottom up. Equality and inclusion for economic stimulation. Welcome to the p2p #token #economy. #Bitswift.cash

https://bitswift.tech/   https://www.bitswift.io/   https://bitswift.network/
https://twitter.com/bit_swift?lang=en
https://twitter.com/BitswiftC?lang=en
https://bitswift.cash/ (my brothers way of creating duration tokens, everyone's way of making their own supply) *it is called cash, money in the form of bills or coins. (not like bitcoincash)
https://bitswift.shop/ (you can buy things on his shop and he is not even on coinmarketcap, with almost any altcoin and bitcoin if you ask him)

Please note: My brother and I, are different "I`s". We may or may not share the same vision and have different views and opinions. So do not judge him because of my actions and do not judge me because of his actions, just like how you should not judge an entire race because some members of the same races actions.
Just because I think marriage is stupid, does not mean he does, he is married.

I think racial profiling is stupid. My Father is German and my Mother is Dutch and I have nothing against any Jewish people or French or any people for that matter, but individuals. (That are of all races). Actually I see myself as a Human from Earth, I was born in Canada and have a Candian citizenship so I guess if you want to ask what part of earth I am from and what nationality I am Canadian.
We are all the human species is how I see it and I judge one not by the cover of their book, but by the contents inside it. If I need to judge at all, I try not to unless it is effecting me personally.

I think we both share the same vision that in the end it should be everyone's vision who wishes to part take in the society. (voting on issues rather than voting people to vote for you)  

The way to do it if people do not want to use time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bowyBKPt15U
https://twitter.com/ThugLifeBlazer (my twitter)

Anyways I don`t want your follow, I just want you to open your eyes. I don`t want you to buy anything, I want you to make your own supplies.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 19, 2019, 11:43:42 PM
Here is the reason a Limited Supply will not work, without a unlimited supply to trade into it.

Huntercoin is a Simulation of the end game of bitcoin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7TLFyK_3Pk

We could use bitcoin as the base and time/duration coins/cash as the ladder climb.
or we could use bitswift as the base and bitswift cash as the ladder climb.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 20, 2019, 12:20:55 AM
https://media.tenor.com/images/545b5f0b8e83f43981224050c9d72642/tenor.gif
https://media.tenor.com/images/e0d2759761d45f2359546d5cee07d075/tenor.gif
https://media.tenor.com/images/b2b68f9a8e60555fb92ebabf705652d8/tenor.gif
https://media1.tenor.com/images/fcee2f0d8b4d1306f4b6839c2d9b26b4/tenor.gif?itemid=7469069

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ8ls5oN3ps

How AI sees our current system

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c7d0f8c7444e854e0d14a85a5f02e1f4/tenor.gif?itemid=12120995

You people realize if we keep funding these stupid war machines, we are going to get checkmated into this solar system because we wasted all our limited resources on rockets and shooting them randomly into space. How will we get to the next gold mine if we need gold to get there?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTXqVISWCsb7dEHS6yvpbi6HJ4imQ7xoT2wVxqcxSU-txGFIdcNMg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcXzn6xXdIc We need more gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUiIVOZedEU Not enough minerals


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TECSHARE on May 20, 2019, 12:27:43 AM
Pure Democracy is over rated. Even if we made a magical infallible decentralized voting system based on blockchain, they would just hack the minds of the masses and lead them where they want them. It would in fact probably make corruption even easier.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 20, 2019, 12:31:32 AM
Pure Democracy is over rated. Even if we made a magical infallible decentralized voting system based on blockchain, they would just hack the minds of the masses and lead them where they want them. It would in fact probably make corruption even easier.

Magical? It is here.

Yah voting people to vote for you, makes sense, when you were a baby!
Yah using someone else's money rather than making your own (like I do as a farmer, makes sense)

How would it make corruption easier? LOL WTF. Instead of bribing trump or trudeau they have to bribe everyone. Instead of pointing a gun at one person, they need to point the gun at everyone.

Think of it this way, Aliens come down, they say take us to your leader, they blow off Trumps head and the UN leaders, We screwed.
Aliens come down they says take us to your leader, we all stand (if possible). They going to take us all on?
I mean we have a much better defense if all members charged into battle. It is basic math. 1 < 2    ,   2 <  3 ,   3 <  4   ,  8.8 billion  >  12  Watch how wolf packs hunt.

1. You can`t bribe a machine with sex, money, goods or services.
2. We are all the machine, You can`t just bribe 1 node.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 20, 2019, 12:37:34 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ksC5zhaEPyE/Tsg0R0xDPOI/AAAAAAAABLQ/EKlDlwVCfYc/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/wolfsheep.jpg

NO! THIS IS BRAIN WASHING B.S! What you see above is representation of democracy and us the people are all the sheep. It is not true democracy.

IT IS 3 WOLVES VOTING ON WHAT IS FOR DINNER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wl8ZxAaB2E

Even the Bison know they need to group up to stand a better chance.

Watch this ant documentary on the Super Colony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdPsVpD6b08
That Super Colony is kicking butt and taking names.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 20, 2019, 12:41:52 AM
de·moc·ra·cy
/dəˈmäkrəsē/
noun
noun: democracy

    a system of government by the whole population

It is also a dictatorship, but all the people are the dictators.
The BLOCKCHAINCODE is the dictator. Go ahead try and blow its head off or bribe it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8HdOHrc3OQ  BEST SPEECH IN THE WORLD 99% agree anywhere on youtube. FK THE 1% WE ARE THE 99%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fArgCaFb1c  Bobby Kennedy's Speech for Humanity


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TECSHARE on May 20, 2019, 01:26:24 AM
Did you know that 50% of the population is of below average intelligence?


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 20, 2019, 01:48:11 AM
Did you know that 50% of the population is of below average intelligence?

How does that even make sense? I think you worded that wrong.

Also, I would rather trust 500 monkeys with average intelligence rather than 50 with above average intelligence any day of the week.

How do you even measure intelligence? also keep in mind we are talking about people voting on issues for themselves.
Are you going by I.Q? amount of knowledge retained? (Joe Rogan might be one of the smartest people then), Pattern recognition (IQ)?, Ability to spell good, Linguistic ? Recalling information? or putting thoughts into new information? forming ideas? How fast they can type? Nature smart? Life smart? Interpersonal people smart? Mathematical? Logical? Ability to persuade people?  There is many forms of Intelligence.  


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: KingScorpio on May 20, 2019, 02:04:23 AM
Pure Democracy is over rated. Even if we made a magical infallible decentralized voting system based on blockchain, they would just hack the minds of the masses and lead them where they want them. It would in fact probably make corruption even easier.

jes you say democracy is shit until a private financial cartel establishes itself over your head and funds an army and police to keep you off their throat and keep you as their subhuman money earning cattle.

good luck with that.

if you observe how the centre of the cryptocurrency market works you already get a glimpse of that.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 20, 2019, 04:59:46 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ksC5zhaEPyE/Tsg0R0xDPOI/AAAAAAAABLQ/EKlDlwVCfYc/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/wolfsheep.jpg

NO! THIS IS BRAIN WASHING B.S! What you see above is representation of democracy and us the people are all the sheep. It is not true democracy.

IT IS 3 WOLVES VOTING ON WHAT IS FOR DINNER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wl8ZxAaB2E

Even the Bison know they need to group up to stand a better chance.

Watch this ant documentary on the Super Colony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdPsVpD6b08
That Super Colony is kicking butt and taking names.

Why we all need a seat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgGxuyX8p0Q

1000 or us in a gym, We elect Sally, Bill and John

Sally wants to play basketball
Bill wants to play hockey
John wants to play soocer

997 of us want to play dodgeball.

We are stuck now doing something we did not want to do because we voted people to vote for us.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: Beerwizzard on May 20, 2019, 11:26:05 AM
Why do none of the world leaders agree that we need to stop the free press of fiat? That it enslaves the common man who is actually working. I will vote for whoever has the balls to step up and say we need a soft reset, but I rather vote myself not vote people to vote for me.
Do you really think that those world leaders are a bunch of cruel villains that are only thinking about how to abuse normal people.
This is how the system generally works: people are working in different companies, then government slightly devaluates its currency to those companies could get some benefit on global market which makes the economy of the country grow. Without this benefit countries like Germany of US all industry would die and people will loose everything.
So countries are just exchanging a tiny inflation into steady economic growth.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TECSHARE on May 20, 2019, 09:24:01 PM
Did you know that 50% of the population is of below average intelligence?

How does that even make sense? I think you worded that wrong.

Also, I would rather trust 500 monkeys with average intelligence rather than 50 with above average intelligence any day of the week.

How do you even measure intelligence? also keep in mind we are talking about people voting on issues for themselves.
Are you going by I.Q? amount of knowledge retained? (Joe Rogan might be one of the smartest people then), Pattern recognition (IQ)?, Ability to spell good, Linguistic ? Recalling information? or putting thoughts into new information? forming ideas? How fast they can type? Nature smart? Life smart? Interpersonal people smart? Mathematical? Logical? Ability to persuade people?  There is many forms of Intelligence.  


It actually makes perfect sense. It is just a little phrase that serves as a easy filter for people. it never fails to result in a retarded reply, and I think it serves as a perfect real time demonstration why pure democracy is retarded.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 20, 2019, 10:43:40 PM

It actually makes perfect sense. It is just a little phrase that serves as a easy filter for people. it never fails to result in a retarded reply, and I think it serves as a perfect real time demonstration why pure democracy is retarded.

Approximately 70% of the population falls within the range of 85 to 115.
An I.Q between 90 and 110 is considered average
Roughly 68% of the population has an IQ between 85 and 115. The average range between 70 and 130, and represents about 95% of the population.

Also I.Q. does not mean average intelligence

IQ is a number meant to measure people`s cognitive abilities. I have 180-190 depending on the test given. (not that I think I am smart, I am just good a pattern recognition)

So your statement is B.S.

You just think people want them to vote for them, you think we need babysitters, look what the babysitters have done. The enslaved us to the private banking family's. I trust the general public because I am one of them. I know the average man and woman just want food, water, shelter and a nice environment to grow up in. Most of us do not want war, Most of us do want to give up 30% of everything we make to a mob.

Maybe in America it is different, but here in Canada the average person is pretty smart, they just have been deceived by the bankers, mainstream media and the school system.  

You still failed to answer how you are measuring intelligence.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 20, 2019, 10:50:10 PM
Not to mention people voting for themselves on issues, rather than voting some to vote for them is what we are talking about here, low or high "intelligence" alike. It would include anyone 16+ or 18+ whatever age people set as the age of maturation or age of self consent, it is 16 here in Canada when your parents can kick you out. (although I considered myself a dumbass until I was 30ish and I am still growing and becoming smarter)


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TECSHARE on May 20, 2019, 11:22:47 PM
The general public is easily lead. We don't need baby sitters, but informed and accountable people making decisions. Everyone loves free shit for example, but if we just start handing out free money, eventually our economy would fail. What do you think would be the result of a pure democratic vote for free money for everyone?

Do you ever notice how even the most vapid empty headed freaks have strong opinions about pretty much anything? People love having strong opinions while simultaneously knowing nothing. They call it "paying attention" because it costs focus, time, effort, and consciousness to really understand the world around you and the happenings within it. Most people want to pretend to know, but can't afford to pay attention. What some people call "common sense" is just conformity and operant conditioning at play.

Human beings have a natural desire to conform which has been evolved from earlier times in our existence where if you were an outcast you likely died because you didn't have any support networks. This has been bred into humanity and it is a cognitive bias that "the elite" exploit more easily than they can a Constitutional Republic with checks and balances designed to check this kind of effect among others. All that will happen is the masses will be convinced of their victory as they will be lead by the nose right down the same path they were being lead anyway, only much faster.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 20, 2019, 11:42:27 PM
Let us say this is the vote.

Do you think we should there should be a higher sales tax on items over 4$

1. Yes
2. No
3. IDGAF (you would not even be voting and be given less of a BIP)

https://www.strawpoll.me/18026636

Politicians and Professors or anyone for that matter. (could make a video upload to the file sharing that is linked to the Poll and voice their concerns)
The people could watch all the data if they wanted to help make up their mind, if they could not make it up their own.

My Video: When I go to Mcdonalds and order 2 mcdoubles it cost me $5.30 but if I split it it cost me $4.90 I will only be making the cashier do more work by splitting my bills and ordering 1 at a time so this is pointless.
When I go to Timmies and I order 3 large triple triples it cost me $6.05 but if I order 2 then 1 it cost me $5.97, so I would just split them.

So the point of the tax is just stupid. I will just split orders and create more of a line for people to wait in.
(I watch others view points on it via file sharing)

In Addition paying tax to fund projects I have no say in, like giving lawblaws 12 million is not in my interest or funding war machines, I will pass.
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/04/09/tories-cry-foul-over-12m-to-help-loblaws-buy-energy-efficient-coolers/
I rather have a say of where my tax is going, I am the one creating it.

I vote 2.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TECSHARE on May 20, 2019, 11:50:11 PM
Let us say this is the vote.

Do you think we should there should be a higher sales tax on items over 4$

1. Yes
2. No
3. IDGAF (you would not even be voting and be given less of a BIP)

https://www.strawpoll.me/18026636

Politicians and Professors or anyone for that matter. (could make a video upload to the file sharing that is linked to the Poll and voice their concerns)
The people could watch all the data if they wanted to help make up their mind, if they could not make it up their own.

My Video: When I go to Mcdonalds and order 2 mcdoubles it cost me $5.30 but if I split it it cost me $4.90 I will only be making the cashier do more work by splitting my bills and ordering 1 at a time so this is pointless.
When I go to Timmies and I order 3 large triple triples it cost me $6.05 but if I order 2 then 1 it cost me $5.97, so I would just split them.

So the point of the tax is just stupid. I will just split orders and create more of a line for people to wait in.
(I watch others view points on it via file sharing)

In Addition paying tax to fund projects I have no say in, like giving lawblaws 12 million is not in my interest or funding war machines, I will pass.
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/04/09/tories-cry-foul-over-12m-to-help-loblaws-buy-energy-efficient-coolers/
I rather have a say of where my tax is going, I am the one creating it.

I vote 2.

That wasn't really a response to me, but kind of one at me talking about a different subject. I am not a fan of our tax system either but I do think some taxes serve a purpose.


Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 20, 2019, 11:59:08 PM
The above was to your earlier post.

I agree taxes do serve a purpose, to fund the community. The community should have a say where those taxes go as they are the ones paying the taxes.

If we start handing out free money? This money is not free to begin with, unless you are the FED.

We already hand out free money btw, Welfare, ODSP.  You know all the immigrants coming to Canada are getting free housing and a free check, while the people who built this country get fuck all. When my father moved here it used to be he had to prove his worth, he also needed someone to take liability for him, there was no handouts. These immigrants get more money than war vets.

The only reason people conform to the norm is because they are punished otherwise.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6_h5abWwAAVXN_.jpg:large
Almost most the successful video, music celebrity, tech people (satoshi) are the least normal people you will meet. Look at the top richest people in the world list that did not cheat and are not bankers
Richard Branson
David Karp
Aretha Franklin
Joe Lewis
Mike Hudack

Do you think that being normal is what a Creator wants? Why not just make everyone the same then. I know if I was a Creator of Creators I would want them to have their own identity otherwise I would just make everyone conjoint twins/triples^10 connected to the same brain.

Anyways, smart or not, if you are paying taxes, you have a say of where the money goes. If we start taxing monkeys and gorillas they should have a say.



Title: Re: Why do you vote people to vote for you? Why do you use another mans money?
Post by: TimeBits on May 21, 2019, 12:12:14 AM
Are you a machine man? with a machine brain Tec?

I will make a world just for you, I will clone you millions of times and put you there by yourselves.

It will be funny when each one of your clones tries to think it is smarter than the next and knows what is best for the others. Have fun in that world, getting told by yourself you know what is best.