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Title: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Flangler on May 20, 2019, 06:40:48 PM
Banknetico website: https://banknetico.com/
Banknetico Bounty: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145324.msg51139496#msg51139496
Saved Website: https://web.archive.org/web/20190520184507/https://banknetico.com/team/
What happen: They have stolen someone's images.
https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/43fcda14-3274-46f3-8953-99e2ca7b5247.png


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https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/53057aca-7c0d-4c60-9a5b-399a3bc4fb1e.png She is a model in ZARA
https://screenshotscdn.firefoxusercontent.com/images/a0a8f2a4-32c8-4647-86c8-8e6d2b1be4e7.png He is Danielle Cedillo or Bradley Morley. (http://www.daniellecedillo.com/aboutus.html)


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: TalkStar on May 20, 2019, 07:11:51 PM
Nice work,,,for future need you can update your thread with that ANN poster profile and ANN Archive link too. I am gonna leave a reply on their ANN for make our forum user aware of them.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: The Cryptovator on May 20, 2019, 07:28:03 PM
Tagged and archived bounty thread, (http://archive.is/bvZ6w). Seems TalkStar already warn on their ANN thread. Lets keep in eye how many users are going to promote their project. Using fake team is a clear indication of scam. Forum users should know about it. Waiting for their response on this thread. May be they are not aware about
FAKE team ;D

Good found OP,


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: ICOEthics on May 20, 2019, 08:33:46 PM
Hello OP, good job finding this. They have removed the fake team from their website.
It appears that their website was not quite complete yet. You can see the gibberish sentences:

https://i.imgur.com/PWFj0PU.png



Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 21, 2019, 12:11:36 PM
We are well aware of the accusation that you have made against our project and we will like to inform that the tam members will be posted on website. The team members that you made your "claim" against are obviously placeholder images that devs posted.

We will highly appreciate that you remove your claim against us, as the image you posted as a reference was not even on the website at the time that the Bounty Campaign was launched on Bitcointalk.

If you do not comply with these terms we will be forced to take appropriate measures.

Thank you and have a great day.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: The Cryptovator on May 21, 2019, 12:29:32 PM
If you do not comply with these terms we will be forced to take appropriate measures.
Are you threatening us? Why we should comply with these terms? Is accusation wrong? How do you get permission to use their photo? Why launched website with placeholder photo? This is old excuse, provide recorded video with your team member that you had provided on website and OP will remove this thread. Provide valid reason why this thread should be deleted.


It appears that their website was not quite complete yet. You can see the gibberish sentences:
It's true, but why they make bounty thread if their website wasn't ready ? I think OP found this case from bounty campaign and accusation isn't wrong IMO.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 21, 2019, 12:41:23 PM
If you do not comply with these terms we will be forced to take appropriate measures.
Are you threatening us? Why we should comply with these terms? Is accusation wrong? How do you get permission to use their photo? Why launched website with placeholder photo? This is old excuse, provide recorded video with your team member that you had provided on website and OP will remove this thread. Provide valid reason why this thread should be deleted.

The "claim" that you have is not relevant as the website was being tested, as can be seen on the photo you posted. At the time of the launch of our Bounty Campaign, this was removed, because we know that these are models. I believe that we reserve to post on our website whatever we like and if somebody has anything against it, they can sue us.

There's even a obvious mistake that Ann Balock is posted 2 times. This was used just for test purposes by our devs too see the general look and feel of the landing page.

We would please ask you to remove your claims.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 21, 2019, 12:46:24 PM
Hello OP, good job finding this. They have removed the fake team from their website.
It appears that their website was not quite complete yet. You can see the gibberish sentences:

https://i.imgur.com/PWFj0PU.png



Thank you. We would like to inform you that this was removed before our Bounty Campaign was launched. These images were used just for test purposes along with the text, as there is Ann Balock section that's written 2 times.

We knew that this needed to be updated before launching on Bitcointalk so we removed it last week, before we posted anything here.

Thank you for your your support and for seeing that this was just for test purposes, unlike some people here.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: ICOEthics on May 21, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
We are well aware of the accusation that you have made against our project and we will like to inform that the tam members will be posted on website. The team members that you made your "claim" against are obviously placeholder images that devs posted.

We will highly appreciate that you remove your claim against us, as the image you posted as a reference was not even on the website at the time that the Bounty Campaign was launched on Bitcointalk.

If you do not comply with these terms we will be forced to take appropriate measures.

Thank you and have a great day.

Hello, We have zero tolerance for threats!.

First of all: You are not telling the truth: The images were listed on your website when the OP created this investigation/accusation thread.

Date and time that you created your bounty campaign: 02:37:52 PM

https://i.imgur.com/DffF6JR.png




Date and time that the OP created this thread: 06:40:48 PM

https://i.imgur.com/2bfSOfQ.png



Date and time that the OP archived your website: 06:45:07 PM (18:45:07 PM)

https://i.imgur.com/EOTQeIw.png  https://i.imgur.com/8oJf8sK.jpg


As you can see the evidence above, you are NOT correct.
Now, stop with your BS and threats. You started your project with some fake pictures of your team on your website. If they were placeholders on not, that is your problem. You should have removed them before launching your website. We have seen many scammers using those "placeholders" images pretending to be their team and expecting nobody to find the truth.

We expect you to provide a video of your team members within 24 hours or we will tag you as well as an attempt to deceive investors with a fake team.



Bounty: archived (https://archive.is/7q8H0)
This thread: archived today  (https://archive.fo/30qBz)


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: witcher_sense on May 21, 2019, 01:01:37 PM
I support ICOEthics' opinion, threats are not the best way to start your project on this forum or anywhere else.  It harms your reputation instead.  You have received negative reviews based on the correct and valid accusation and they will not be removed until you prove your honesty and the presence of a real team.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 21, 2019, 02:08:11 PM
We are well aware of the accusation that you have made against our project and we will like to inform that the tam members will be posted on website. The team members that you made your "claim" against are obviously placeholder images that devs posted.

We will highly appreciate that you remove your claim against us, as the image you posted as a reference was not even on the website at the time that the Bounty Campaign was launched on Bitcointalk.

If you do not comply with these terms we will be forced to take appropriate measures.

Thank you and have a great day.

Hello, We have zero tolerance for threats!.

First of all: You are not telling the truth: The images were listed on your website when the OP created this investigation/accusation thread.

Date and time that you created your bounty campaign: 02:37:52 PM

https://i.imgur.com/DffF6JR.png




Date and time that the OP created this thread: 06:40:48 PM

https://i.imgur.com/2bfSOfQ.png



Date and time that the OP archived your website: 06:45:07 PM (18:45:07 PM)

https://i.imgur.com/EOTQeIw.png  https://i.imgur.com/8oJf8sK.jpg


As you can see the evidence above, you are NOT correct.
Now, stop with your BS and threats. You started your project with some fake pictures of your team on your website. If they were placeholders on not, that is your problem. You should have removed them before launching your website. We have seen many scammers using those "placeholders" images pretending to be their team and expecting nobody to find the truth.

We expect you to provide a video of your team members within 24 hours or we will tag you as well as an attempt to deceive investors with a fake team.



Bounty: archived (https://archive.is/7q8H0)
This thread: archived today  (https://archive.fo/30qBz)


Videos will be provided withing 24h.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Slow death on May 21, 2019, 03:39:15 PM
Videos will be provided withing 24h.

Of course you can record a video in 24 hours, just go around the corner of your street and pay any group of people to appear in the video as members of your team and booommm, you already have open the way as another charlatan creator of shitcoins

let's talk about your project:


Seriously, I want to understand what is your project? explain me step by step what you intend to create.


I saw the roadmap:

https://i.imgur.com/1PQYvdv.png

Do you want to take the people's money, and in a few months you will try to get a license from a bank?

What bank are you talking about?

What country does this bank belong to?

I was curious, why did not you create thread here:  Announcements (Altcoins) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0)





Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: The Cryptovator on May 21, 2019, 04:32:05 PM
@Banknetico, we are not your enemy really, we just want to know the truth and we don't want to destroy your reputation without reason. Your all feedback's left based on this investigated thread. I don't see anything wrong on OP. Perhaps your excuse is valid but you need to prove it by yourself since there is accusation against your project. Provide enough defensive evidence asked by other users then I would reconsider my negative feedback's. Do not try to handle your feedback's by threatening. 


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 21, 2019, 05:05:48 PM
Videos will be provided withing 24h.

Of course you can record a video in 24 hours, just go around the corner of your street and pay any group of people to appear in the video as members of your team and booommm, you already have open the way as another charlatan creator of shitcoins

let's talk about your project:


Seriously, I want to understand what is your project? explain me step by step what you intend to create.


I saw the roadmap:

https://i.imgur.com/1PQYvdv.png

Do you want to take the people's money, and in a few months you will try to get a license from a bank?

What bank are you talking about?

What country does this bank belong to?

I was curious, why did not you create thread here:  Announcements (Altcoins) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=159.0)





How else can we prove who we are if not with a video? You tell me, please.

To answer your questions:
With the bank licensing, we are targeting to get a European full bank license in a matter of up to 4 /moths, when you have banking in any European country you can operate in any European state without any limitation, it is calls passporting,  once you get registered in one state in Europe you are qualified to offer any and all banking services in 28 European states. In addition, the advantage of having European banking license compare with off -shore banking license is that depositors fund is secured and guaranteed up to 100,000 euro, by the ecb, so, the fund is safe, in most of other jurisdictions there is no state fund guarantee, so, it will take us up to 4 to 5 months to get it, but in the mean time we are building the infrastructure of the banking network, and it will be very much valuable upon completion. This is just one project out of four that we are going to accomplish within the next 6 to 18 months, so, we are not " taking money " for nothing, we have few projects in the pipe line that so far non single dollar was funded by the public, all the fund was raised internally, moreover, when just 40 to 50% of the projects in the pipeline will be in operation, the selling price of BKU token will not be $ 0,004 per token , in my opinion , it will be traded/offered in completely much higher price, how much? Take binance ( a platfotm which we are aiming to create)  have current market cap of  $ 3,5 billion.

Please do not hesitate to ask any question if you have any, we will be more then happy to answer all your inquiries to show you that we are serious project.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 21, 2019, 05:08:00 PM
@Banknetico, we are not your enemy really, we just want to know the truth and we don't want to destroy your reputation without reason. Your all feedback's left based on this investigated thread. I don't see anything wrong on OP. Perhaps your excuse is valid but you need to prove it by yourself since there is accusation against your project. Provide enough defensive evidence asked by other users then I would reconsider my negative feedback's. Do not try to handle your feedback's by threatening. 

Investigation is one but I believe that you are jumping to conclusions, because as we can see we already have bunch of negative trust on our profile. We haven't caved like all other scam projects and we are going to provide video of all our members that was requested on this thread. We aim to provide all needed evidence for us to prove that we are a serious and real project.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: ICOEthics on May 21, 2019, 05:29:54 PM
...as we can see we already have bunch of negative trust on our profile...

well, you shouldn't be complaining about negative trust. You gave a negative trust to the OP, but the OP never left a negative trust for you/your account.

https://i.imgur.com/SzLQjZI.png

When you provide the video, dont forget to include the profile of your team members, so we can read about their previous jobs, education, experience, etc.
It is just a way to make sure that they are not just a random person who got paid to be in a video.



Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Slow death on May 21, 2019, 07:31:03 PM
[...]

You did not answer anything that I asked


Do you intend to create:

- Cryptocurrencies exchange

-  Future contract trading

- Trading within the whole network

- Crypto lending platform

there are many things in your whitepaper that to be honest and I do not understand what the purpose will be, basically you want to create a bank account to operate your exchange and you need a license to operate your exchange. You're not creating anything new.

But about this: " Future contract trading "

I believe that you will find many regulatory issues, I will wait to see your team so I can post more comments


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: The Cryptovator on May 21, 2019, 07:39:49 PM
Investigation is one but I believe that you are jumping to conclusions, because as we can see we already have bunch of negative trust on our profile. We haven't caved like all other scam projects and we are going to provide video of all our members that was requested on this thread. We aim to provide all needed evidence for us to prove that we are a serious and real project.
Don't worry about your feedback's, its removable. Once you will provide enough proof of your legitimacy we will love to reconsider it. There was no way to call you without leave feedback's, you are bothering to reply here just for remove your feedback's. I told you, we aren't here just for destroy your account. And your retaliatory feedback's isn't good practice instead of provide evidences.

You are skipping questions asked by other users. Instead of argument why not answering them?   


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: posi on May 21, 2019, 09:47:16 PM
Investigation is one but I believe that you are jumping to conclusions, because as we can see we already have bunch of negative trust on our profile. We haven't caved like all other scam projects and we are going to provide video of all our members that was requested on this thread. We aim to provide all needed evidence for us to prove that we are a serious and real project.
Don't worry about your feedback's, its removable. Once you will provide enough proof of your legitimacy we will love to reconsider it. There was no way to call you without leave feedback's, you are bothering to reply here just for remove your feedback's. I told you, we aren't here just for destroy your account. And your retaliatory feedback's isn't good practice instead of provide evidences.

You are skipping questions asked by other users. Instead of argument why not answering them?   
To my own understanding. We can't be sure if the video of the team which @Banknetico will provide will be genuine since he said the previous picture which they were accused for was used just for test purposes and I wonder why someone will even do that in the first place without thinking of the consequence. However, team information with picture ought to be update on their site by now.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: examplens on May 21, 2019, 10:24:06 PM
---cut
Videos will be provided withing 24h.

Because I'm tagging this user for a fake team, just follow this thread. Who knows, maybe they really provide this video in next 24h, and I must remove negative rating  ;)


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 22, 2019, 11:51:17 AM
[...]

You did not answer anything that I asked


Do you intend to create:

- Cryptocurrencies exchange

-  Future contract trading

- Trading within the whole network

- Crypto lending platform

there are many things in your whitepaper that to be honest and I do not understand what the purpose will be, basically you want to create a bank account to operate your exchange and you need a license to operate your exchange. You're not creating anything new.

But about this: " Future contract trading "

I believe that you will find many regulatory issues, I will wait to see your team so I can post more comments

As part of our currencies exchange trading, we are intend to offer/implement in addition to regular trading (such as binance) trading on future currencies, mainly the to 50 large cap crypto currencies, that will demand from us a lots of innovation, technical and financial skill. As stated before, have a look at binance exchange with $ 3,5 billion market cap, and our question to us and any body involved with us, why we can not do the same, and even better, we have all the pieces putting together to create at least exchange similar to binance. Now, with all due respect to you, you are more then welcome to join our telegram channel https://t.me/Banknetico and every step of the process will be explained, ( very slowly) why it can be done by us.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 22, 2019, 11:53:40 AM

We expect you to provide a video of your team members within 24 hours or we will tag you as well as an attempt to deceive investors with a fake team.



Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: ICOEthics on May 22, 2019, 04:16:51 PM
~snip

Thanks for providing videos and links. Additional information about team member: Shikha Dadhwal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/icomarketer/
Worked for AirSaveTravel - there is scam accusation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139338.0


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: witcher_sense on May 22, 2019, 04:40:30 PM
~snip

Thanks for providing videos and links. Additional information about team member: Shikha Dadhwal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/icomarketer/
Worked for AirSaveTravel - there is scam accusation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139338.0
Shikha Dadhwal also worked for Tracoin ICO.
https://www.trackico.io/ico/tracoin/
Scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4729486.0
ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179280



Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: TalkStar on May 22, 2019, 06:45:53 PM
Shikha Dadhwal also worked for Tracoin ICO.
https://www.trackico.io/ico/tracoin/
Scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4729486.0
ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179280


Sometimes inclusive arguments discover more than we expect and its proven here again. Another bunch of common scammers faces came to limelight again and this was completely unexpected to these faceless scammers. Its a message for us that still those suckers are planning to steal peoples money by committing fraudulent activities. At least they should keep it on mind that is not gonna be easier like past time to make investors fool again.

I have no doubt that these guys were involved with many more Scams. Lets see how they apply their next scam plan.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 22, 2019, 08:22:04 PM
Shikha Dadhwal also worked for Tracoin ICO.
https://www.trackico.io/ico/tracoin/
Scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4729486.0
ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179280


Sometimes inclusive arguments discover more than we expect and its proven here again. Another bunch of common scammers faces came to limelight again and this was completely unexpected to these faceless scammers. Its a message for us that still those suckers are planning to steal peoples money by committing fraudulent activities. At least they should keep it on mind that is not gonna be easier like past time to make investors fool again.

I have no doubt that these guys were involved with many more Scams. Lets see how they apply their next scam plan.

Is it maybe possible that these people were hired to do (insert job title here) at (insert scam project here) without their knowledge of it being a scam? Had that train of thought maybe cross your shallow and narrow minds? If you take a look at these "members", do any of them look like masterminds in charge or do they maybe look like innocent people who were hired to do something simple as community management or any other position?


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 24, 2019, 09:08:45 AM
As of today, 24.5.2019. Shikha Dadhwal will be removed from BankNetICO as a project and team member, further more she will be also removed from all official BankNetICO social media groups. We would like to resolve this negative trust issue as soon as possible and to move on with our project. Please inform as if there is anything else needed for us to provided here on Bitcointalk, or anywhere else for that matter, in order to gain your trust.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: examplens on May 24, 2019, 09:55:11 AM
As of today, 24.5.2019. Shikha Dadhwal will be removed from BankNetICO as a project and team member, further more she will be also removed from all official BankNetICO social media groups. We would like to resolve this negative trust issue as soon as possible and to move on with our project. Please inform as if there is anything else needed for us to provided here on Bitcointalk, or anywhere else for that matter, in order to gain your trust.

whether she was removed only from the website or from the project? why not explore first and make a better selection of team members?
This is not software development and bug fixing. You showed a lot of unprofessionalism there and I'm not sure how you can be trusted.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Banknetico on May 24, 2019, 12:10:09 PM
As of today, 24.5.2019. Shikha Dadhwal will be removed from BankNetICO as a project and team member, further more she will be also removed from all official BankNetICO social media groups. We would like to resolve this negative trust issue as soon as possible and to move on with our project. Please inform as if there is anything else needed for us to provided here on Bitcointalk, or anywhere else for that matter, in order to gain your trust.

whether she was removed only from the website or from the project? why not explore first and make a better selection of team members?
This is not software development and bug fixing. You showed a lot of unprofessionalism there and I'm not sure how you can be trusted.

She is no longer associated with BankNetICO. We have removed her from all aspects of our project (social media, website, telegram, bitcointalk, project...). Shikha was a great team member with allot of potential, and we believe that she should not be penalized for something she had no power of. But in order to move on with our project we have removed her.

As stated before we are here to prove that we are serious project and that we mean business, so tell us what needs to be done in order for us to have neutral trust again. We have show initiative and we have't caved like many other projects who are scam projects. What's our next step, you tell me?


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: witcher_sense on May 31, 2019, 10:35:55 AM
Another thread, another account to scam people. Be cautious.
Scammers bounty thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147774.0
Scammers profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2607330

Making a new account to avoid negative feedbacks is ruining your reputation even more harder. Your other account should be tagged also.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: Avirunes on May 31, 2019, 11:25:33 AM
We are well aware of the accusation that you have made against our project and we will like to inform that the tam members will be posted on website. The team members that you made your "claim" against are obviously placeholder images that devs posted.

We will highly appreciate that you remove your claim against us, as the image you posted as a reference was not even on the website at the time that the Bounty Campaign was launched on Bitcointalk.

If you do not comply with these terms we will be forced to take appropriate measures.

Thank you and have a great day.

I don't think there is a need to remove a feedback since you finished two token sale stage with the placeholder images which make it seems like you didn't had any plan to change those placeholder images if this went unnoticed.


Title: Re: Banknetico -Fake team members
Post by: TalkStar on June 01, 2019, 07:26:46 PM
Another thread, another account to scam people. Be cautious.
Scammers bounty thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147774.0
Scammers profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2607330

Making a new account to avoid negative feedbacks is ruining your reputation even more harder. Your other account should be tagged also.

Without providing absolute information about their team member they opened another account and another ANN too. Its obviously another suspicious activity from them. I don't know that they are doing this from lack of professionalism or trying to hide their revealed fake team from investors eye.

New account Tagged from my end and i hope other DTs will put their attention on this too.

Another thing is that this new accounts password changed recently ::)
http://i63.tinypic.com/2m85udt.png