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We believe that the current model for online poker is deeply flawed as it gives the game operators the ability peek at player's cards, rig the game in unnoticeable ways and play against their users. This is unacceptable when bitcoins are at stake! We solved this problem by using a set of cryptographic techniques called “mental poker” to prove to our players that the game is fair at all time. Fair.Poker (https://fair.poker) is the world’s first Provably Fair Texas Hold’em poker game.

Fair.Poker (https://fair.poker) is played with bitcoin only- no altcoins or ICOs.
BTC Bitcoin & ⚡ Lightning deposits and withdraws are accepted!

We’re organising poker games on Telegram - join our group (https://t.me/fairpoker)!

Click here for mental poker algorithm details (https://fair.poker/details)





Gameplay screenshots:
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The part that interested me more is that you guys do not accept ALT's. That is fair to me. The cryptographic technique which you called mental poker can really solve multiplayer issue in online poker. I have my doubts. Still nice to see something new happening in online poker

I will go ahead and register and try it once. Best of Luck.

I like that the team applief mental poker in the system. It is good that each player can shuffle their own cards and that only the owner of the card can see them. I think this is the fairest poker game system i've seen so far, not yet tried it, I have only read details on the link.

Would like to register and try playing later. I just want to know if KYC is required to register or withdraw?

Will there be weekly tournaments or events in the site if ever, or any promotions to attract players?

do you plan to add a referral program later?
and it would be nice if you add free-roll tournaments to attract more players to play?

I don't think is a great thing not to accept other altcoins, ethereuem in particular has a very fast transactions process which is the ideal coin for online gambling due to instant deposits, I lime the platform with it unique usage of the bitcoin lightening network for payment which make them the first in the gambling industry with such features.

Hi! There is no KYC on fair.poker.
As of right now we have only cash games but tournaments are on the roadmap, so stay tuned!
We'll be doing promotions to attract players!

Speaking of promotion, do you have a plan to have a signature campaign here for better exposure of your poker site?
There are some reputable managers here that can be handled your poker site if you want.
I personally recommend yahoo62278 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355846) and Hhampuz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377)

Good to see that there is a poker online gambling site like this, I also tried to create an account as of now.

It is not the first gambling site that use lighting network, there are some sites did it earlier than this one but seems that most of them get less interest.
Anyway, I'm amazed with the UI of this site which is very attractive compared to other bitcoin poker site. It is a good start already, but as what we all know that it is not easy to build a traffic of a poker site. Needs a hard work and patient for long time to make it survive. Hopefully the owner is a well experienced person in this industry so the site will survive to compete to other sites.

So what is the difference of this site to the other poker site?
We already have a trusted site for poker and also do you have any plan for promotion to attract gamblers?
It would be great if you would host a tournament on your site to create a publicity .

Hi! The difference between fair.poker and virtually every other poker site is that the game with us is provably fair. Players can by themselves verify the integrity of the game: the operators can not see your face-down cards, nor can they manipulate the dealing of the cards. In comparison, cheating in traditional online poker sites is trivial and thus quite common. There are numerous examples like UltimateBet and Full Tilt poker.

We achieve provable fairness by implementing a cryptographic protocol called "mental poker". You can see a visual explanation of the algorithm here: https://fair.poker/details and a technical one here: https://fair.poker/tech

We currently have cash games only but tournaments are on the roadmap and will be implemented soon!

Not doing a KYC is the best thing as many gamblers avoid KYC and need to play anonymously. The ideas of  having tournaments is great and i will be looking forward to it.  For promotions, you can either starts signature campaigns here or you can give big bonus to attract the gamblers.

I would like to try poker game which can be played with crypto.

And waiting for some promotions to try actually :) I hope it would be a good one.

Signature campaign wont be an effective marketing strategy in this early stage after launching. The best thing for early stage promotion on poker site is tournament (both freeroll and GTD) or something like nice rakeback. Big bonus? Mind to tell about more, what bonuses you are talking about?

By bonus i am talking about the Deposit bonus. Many new gambling sites, offer deposits bonus on the first deposit only.  They can even give the offer of double deposit bonus on all deposits till a month or two. Such schemes are also a great way to bring the gamblers to the site.

I think the hardest part would be convincing people that it is actually provably fair. The point of provably fair in dice games is simple and everyone could check each roll they have with the seed and that's done, quite simple yet quite quick.

In poker games the problem is not that the shuffle is random, it could be a fact that shuffle is random which people will accept with fair ease, however not seeing your hand is the question, you may get fair cards given to each player but as long as one player sees everyone's hands then he will win no matter what. Proving people that nobody knows your hand and nobody can scam you that way will take some time, even if you are legit (I think there are one or two other legit poker places in crypto as well) it will still be a hard sell on the users.

Why aren't you accepting altcoin? I usually use Ethereum in playing and it's sad to know that you're only accepting bitcoin. How will you guarantee the fairness of the game?
Can you assure us the the game would go well as well as the withdrawal? Your graphic design looks great and the bonus that you're offering would surely attract more players.

Are you the admin or the developer of the site? I will be waiting for what you said promotions, I guess it could be signature campaign or free tokens or coins for early registrant?

Recently just register on your site but still not deposit yet and only looking around the site however i saw on the lobby room there was plenty of table available at there but none of players at there and i think since this is brand new poker site and to promote it i think you have to give to the new players non deposit bonus or free roll tournaments to attract more players and if people satisfied playing at there then not impossible to people to deposit and play

I agree with you. The owner should offer to a few people a small bonus, just enough to play a few rounds and see how everything is working and also see if they like the platform and it's features. I'm not registered on the website to check this but I also think a demo platform would be great for anyone to play on the website without having to register especially because the website is brand new.

I think if you give free money to people to play at site, it will cause many people to make multiple accounts and abuse the free money being offered. A better way is to give a good 2x bonus on deposits to real players who actually want to play and willing to deposit the funds.

Hi! You are fully correct in your statement that the problem in poker games is not that the shuffle is random but that no other player or person can see you face-down cards. This is the exact problem we solve in fair.poker!

In short, the way we can prove to you that we cannot see your cards is the fact that you personally shuffle and encrypt the whole deck of cards. When you are dealt cards you are the only player on the table who has all needed keys to decrypt them - we don't!
You can verify that fact by monitoring the game and using external tools to decrypt the card ciphertexts.

You can see how the provably fair algorithm works here: https://fair.poker/details

There is also a really nice article on Wikipedia about mental poker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_poker

Please note that there is no other provably fair Texas Hold'em game on the market - there are other variants of poker but they are all single player. We are very excited to be the first ones doing multiplayer Texas Hold'em!

We would be very glad to clear out all questions and concerns with the community so go on and ask your questions!

- Don't trust, verify!

Welcome to Fair.Poker! Please join our Telegram group (https://t.me/fairpoker) we're organizing poker games there! Just post a message and someone will surely sit down and play with you.

Unfortunately, we cannot offer deposit bonuses, since we are not doing any KYC and a person can easily create multiple accounts and claim multiple bonuses. However, we will be offering rakeback programs and other bonuses - join our TG group and we can give you a special invite code there!

The main reason we do not accept altcoins is that there must be a single chip among all players. For example, a player who has deposited litecoin cannot play versus a players who has deposited bitcoin. If we split the players by coins, then we would reduce the overall liquidity of the games. To have the highest possible liquidity on the website we need a single unit of account.

We choose bitcoin as our chip as it is the highest market cap cryptocurrency, most secure blockchain and the Schelling point of the industry.

Your slogan is "Don't trust, verify!"

I want to verify your company registration in Costa Rica because I do not trust you, but you do not deliver?

Are you schizophrenic?

Pretty good work, personally I prefer game interfaces similar of, for example pokerstars, zynga poker and similar ones but it's a good work too if we consider it's mostly html5 based. But to be fair your website's design is more on sci-fi side rather than on gambling side.
Will be interesting to see if you become (hard task to my mind) because FJ had great poker interface with traffic and trustworthy name but their poker attempt failed.

Well I don't expecte much from gambling platform and trust is out of the way in gambling and the may have a register company in a country and will use that to cover other part of the world, but the most important thing is do they have good and fair system if their do then it OK by me and can risk it.

I deposited 0.002 BTC on your site to try but there's no player to play with. I'm waiting for 3 hours hoping that someone will sit and play but none. How about a little giveaway to try out your site? 5k -10k satoshi will not hurt your pocket?

Legit site?  Anyone try or play. Share your experience.

The website looks pretty cool, but sometimes the fonts and the size of the letters makes some messages hard to read. It is cool that you made a provably fair poker and included the detailed info as well as images to explain how it works. I was also surprised to see that Lightning Network withdrawals are possible, it is not very common on gambling websites yet. What seems to be missing, though, is the page with Terms of Service. You don't make the users agree to the terms before starting to use the website, and I did not find the relevant page with information at all. This is important because one has to know what to expect before depositing any money. Is there KYC? What is the minimum withdrawal? What are the fees the website charges additionally to have some profits? Okay, you answered the KYC question in the thread, but I think such info should be available on the website as well.
Good luck!

Hey! Please do join our telegram group and let us know if you're on a table. Someone will definitely sit down and play with you! We're currently preparing promotions to attract new players. Details will be out soon.

Telegram: @fairpoker

Yes, this site looks interesting to me. Here are the fun games that are the best medium of entertainment. Also I found this site trustworthy that looks good to use. And yes, it seems to me that this site is fair. But I think this site's graphics design can be better if more work is done. Even after considering everything, it looks like this site is good.

Are you sure about that? I mean, provably fair poker algorithm wasn't invented by you, right? So, how can you be sure that other gambling sites are not using it? I came across this article saying:


Your company is a new one, so I don't think they include it in the "established companies". Your intention to create a provably fair poker site is commendable, but your claim that you are the only one around doing this, looks a bit strange to me. Unless you have invented something unique in the field of mental poker, you can't be sure that others don't use the same techniques as you do, since those techniques are in the public domain.

Hello Betwrong. The mental poker algorithm was not invented by us but by Ron Rivest, Adi Shamir and Leonard Adleman (RSA - sounds familiar?). To the best of our knowledge we are the first operational provably fair Texas Hold'em poker game that is played with real money.

The algorithm itself is quite old - proposed in the 80's. However, there are parts of it which we have invented which have to do with catching offending players if the poker protocol was violated.

There are provably fair single-player video poker games and other variants of poker which have been available for a long time but not a multi-player Texas Hold'em game which we are aware of.

Indeed, there are other blockchain projects working on mental poker implementations but none of them have launched a mainnet game yet.

Well, I guess we have to wait until your platform will be functioning to check whether you have managed to implement something others couldn't.

Can you please allow checking your site without registration? I'm sure you'll get much more volunteers that way. Currently, when I click PLAY NOW, they propose me to register first, and I suppose they will ask me to make a deposit to be able to play after I register. I'm definitely not going to do that, although I would test your site for free with interest.
 

Yes, we will enable access to the lobby and the tables without registration in the future.

However, as of right now, you only have to register to view the lobby and the rooms - there is no need for a deposit to do any of that :)

Looks interesting. I know to play poker here and there, but a lot of sites disappointed me.

Will test it and let you know what i think  :)

Am not much of a poker guy myself. But online poker games are almost generally manipulated by the poker gambling site owners. But this project seems to have pointed that out already so I give some credit to them for that.

I do have some knowledge on how to play poker myself but I am not a regular poker player but I know some or one of the reason why poker games are almost generally manipulated as you have mention is because of "MONEY" itself. Some poker games are even intentionally rigged and mentioned on their terms and agreements which is not fair to some poker players.

The idea about a provably fair poker is awesome, and as you say, no one offers this on the market, so, good luck with the idea.

Now my question is... is there a way to verify the previous game, and is there a way to verify that no one can see our hand or predict the upcoming cards, i know each user encrypts their hand, but the server should know what hand have each player to evaluate who wins, so, that information could make from your site a rigged site. Maybe if you make from your project an opensource project more people could trust in it.

I think it's better if you can give a demo account to every new player so they can test the game before they make an account in your site.
Learning poker will not easy, especially for people who don't know how to play poker, although I found out that you give free short learning on how to play poker.
The site design is simple, and I like the colour because it does not look too complicated.
I see also the math calculation on the site, and it was too difficult for me to understand.
Well, OP, a nice site at all, good luck on your project.

This site running smoothly when I registered and log in. For a new site you can make promotions or make free rolls to attract poker players to play there. The poker site is actually pretty good.

I don't think you are right if anyone wants to learn about poker it should no be through this site  one can learn poker through going through the internet, meeting up with poker players and seeing this for themselves and when ever they are ready they they registered in a poker site like this one and start to play

I agree about the demo, well at least make one room especially for that where there always an active player(bot) because as you know when we register at the site there not even one player active.

You can offer a play money or free chip for that, you know to attract a new player to test the site.

Just saw this, what attracts me here is the design of the game itself. I would love to try this out may I know if there's a free coins or a faucet so we can experience the game before we invest some funds to your website?

Another thing how can we assure that the game is fair?

Hey there! There are no free coins or faucet but we're currently preparing some really nice promotions for our first users. Details will be out soon!

As for the game integrity verification - since mental poker is a much more complicated algorithm compared to provably fair dice, Black Jack, video poker and other hash-based games, verification is also more complicated but definitely doable. One way is to monitor the network requests which your browser sends to our server and repeat the mental poker algorithm based on the emitted data. This is currently doable manually but we're confident that an open-source browser plugin will come out which will perform the integrity verification of each hand automatically while you're on the fair.poker website.

I am not sure which kinds of promotions you will run, but if you need a manager for such stuffs, you should consider Hhampuz, whom is one of the most famous, and reliable managers. He also has lots of experience in managing campaigns of gambling sites; and has his own thread on casinos. Please check it there: Overview of Active Casino/Dice Sites Accepting BTC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4832500.0)

Most likely they are going to offer some free funds for bitcointalk users so that they could test the platform and see how it runs. Maybe they are also going to open some contests and different giveaways but I don't think we can talk here about a very big promotion so that they need a manager for. Anyway we'll see because we don't know what plans does the OP have with his website.

Simply making weekly freeroll promotion at least attract poker players to play because every poker site has that as well as introducing to the people of this new site.

By the way, i have successfully registered on your site but i didn't see any email confirmation in my email please check it.

Good move with launching the signature campaign. Let's hope you keep it alive for a few years.

But what they choose is also the best manager in town in which @Yahoo get the chance to mange the campaign,so this means another Good project for Yahoo to bring promotion and will surely find success in future.

Congrats Yahoo for this another project that would be run by you.wish to have a long running campaign

Well, it have now( email confirmation) as I registered in their site lately. It is new into this kind of game and so it is better to have some videos or tutorials to learn pretty easy. I exposed into some card games but online games is quite different.

About on the email confirmation,it did went fine into my mail directly(using gmail).Regarding on the thing you do said since we are talking about Texas Hold'em which theres no need for them to post up some videos on how to play it yet you can simply search out on youtube or google on how this thing works.

I agree as some people just prefer to play only for the experience and if you could capture that number of players then you're more likely to keep them hooked but I must say that the colour scheme is not my taste :P though thats just my opinion.

This would be better but we respect what the team they had as of now and wait for the official announcement and updates, I am a little bit confused about how to play poker because playing poker online is quite different in a real casino. Trying to sit in the table next week if how it works playing cards(poker) using my reward.

Anyway, congrats to the team and dev of FairPoker for choosing the best manager here in the forum @ yahoo.

Without a doubt, and it obviously gives their network a bit of integrity considering the fact that they are pretty new on board, it just shows that they are seeking to promote their project on the forum, but not at the detriment of it, as their bounty posters will definitely up their game with yahoo at the helm of affairs.

The site looks smooth, just going through the registration process, no doubt it will be a success in the future.

It is not that confusing actually. They employ a system where you are solely in charge of your cards and even the house is not aware of what cards you have. This is how the game stays provably fair.

Check this link for more details : https://fair.poker/details

You can see that they explain everything in a step by step manner though the lag needs to be reduced. They are sticking to BTC currently for liquidity purposes which is a good decision in my opinion.

The number of active players is still so low at the moment, I think there should be some more promotions to boost the traffic. I also see that there are ring games only without any tournaments so I suggest fairpoker to create some GTD tournament with nice prizepool or probably freeroll tournament for those who are playing in the ring games every weekend or every month.
Current promotion is available on the telegram group, I received $3 by asking it to admin and play for a while with him and one other player. Promotion is needed to support the signature campaign that has just started, I'm worrying that the signature wont be effective if there is no other good offer inside the site. So kindly consider my suggestion.

Marketing wont really give an assurance and success would vary if this new gambling site has something new to offer or being

competitive among other similar sites.If players wont able to meet their expectation then it would be still useless no matter how big
is the funds allocated for marketing.Those suggestion you do said is actually good and hope they would consider it.

I also noticed this but let us consider that they are quite new on having ads here in the forum maybe 2-3 weeks they can lure more gambling enthusiasts who passionate to play poker and sit on the table on their website. All I can say is they need more activities or contest that may be tempted to gamblers, (tournament would be fine)It's a good suggestion.

As of now stay tune on telegram group because of admin there giving a small amount of bits or sats worth of $3 just to test your luck and sit in on the table. I also received and tried my luck there, well, I really enjoy. :D

I'm thinking to joining their telegram group if this giveaway still available because $3 is enough to testing poker table but unfortunately poker room still empty players but the promotions through signature campaign has just begin and soon might be they will get new players however looking forward to see further update if they have any plan to held daily free tournaments i think this is would be good

Hey bud, even though there is already a campaign for their promotions that doesn't mean that they will get players as soon as they started this kind of campaigns. Besides, we already have countless of gambling sites where we can play poker, not to mention almost all of these gambling sites are PROBABLY FAIR means 50-50...  If they're about to increase the percentage of winnings only from the startbefore they set it to PROBABLY FAIR, they might be able to get players unexpectedly.  This will take time, for the reason most gamblers just stay on their trusted sites.

Let's just hope they can get enough attention.

Hey cabalism13. Just to make a quick note: we're the first site which is offering provably fair Texas Hold'em. There are many gambling sites offering a variety of provably fair games but not poker.


Poker is not about fixed percentages like dice. It's a much more complex game which is purely based on player's skill in the long run.


This, of course, is not possible since you're not playing poker against the house but against other players.

Comparing poker to other casino games is not correct and everyone in the gambling world knows that much. Poker is basically a PVP game where your skill matters more than luck. You don't need the RNG gods to bless you everytime in order to earn any profit.

What Fair.poker is trying to do is provide a provably fair experience without any sort of in-house rigging and they might be earning their profits through certain commissions etc. This could take off over time if it receives enough attention.

First of all you need to differentiate between PROVABLY and PROBABLY, both sounds similar but has different meaning.
Secondly if you are referring to PROVABLY FAIR system, it is not about your winning chance. You say provably fair = 50-50, so how about a game that if provably fair but has low odds? Does it make senses for you to connect provably fair system with winning chance?
Last but not least, countless gambling sites where you can play poker? You are so exaggerated for this, the number of bitcoin poker sites is not that much. There are some existing sites indeed, but it does not mean that new sites has no chances to compete with the older sites. 

I would like to hear out from him into those countless poker sites as of this moment.We aren't depending Fair.poker on this one but some of his points aren't really that relevant.

I believe there not so many sites like poker games that really attract people as what you said. If I can say poker games is hard to compete around because of lacking players. People do not really like to play on poker games, not like dice or some other games which not take some timr when we played. And about the provably fair which is what you meant for probably fair, I like to say that there is a 50/50 chance to win because there is house edge, because provably fair mean that your bet can be verify not about the chance to win actually

I"m a fan of poker games I think this sites is better to play poker.

I will try to play and I will wait more updates about this sites. Thanks!

Every gambling sites starts as new and no player at all but if they can offer something unique and comfortability to the players?for sure it won’t take long to gather more players and supporters

Poker is one of the most love gambling in this industry and no doubt that fair poker is new but has some positive approach in the forum(thinking that Bitcointalk,.org is one of the popular site in regards to gambling using cryptocurrency,and also having @Yahoo on boards manager?no doubt success is what awaits the fairloker team

No offenses but you are too confident to say that it wont take too long time to gather players. It is a fact that it is not easy to get active players on a pvp poker game, just take a look at the older poker sites (I'm not referring to fiat poker sites) where the number of active players are not that much although they have been running for years already.
There is no special offers by fair.poker as far as I can see at the moment, only cash table with various stake starting from the smallest one. I can even say that its signature campaign wont bring much effects, so the owner should learn from the older and maybe the success poker sites on how they are able to gain active players.

Almost a week from the day they are launching a campaign so far at this moment there are a few poker players I have seen there. I think they need activities that make poker enthusiast tempted and join on that site. Building a poker site that has always active players is hard to achieve if there's no something catchy to poker players, you need to compete in other old poker sites on what stage level they are.

Let's just wait for even weeks and looking forward to their success.

I like playing poker so when it comes to gambling in crypto I check as many poker tables as I can to see if I can find anything decent. I only know taxes holdem and not really even sure about the rules of the others so I am not even looking into those. I usually play in another big poker game of crypto which I will not name to not look like advertisement but there was very few people playing there, I like their tech and development as well.

I wanted to check here about the user base to see if there would be more people but it seems like there are not that many here neither, crypto poker tables being not crowded is a big problem in all of crypto gambling, why do people want to play so much poker online all around the world but there are so few playing in crypto is always boggles my mind, I hope we can get a huge user base one day.

I expect this campaign will not last long. Actually it is not effective to run a campaign here moreover this is a new site people are more interested in old poker sites. The manager should be able to find another way to attract poker players to play there by making a big promotion such as Big Freeroll and a low Buy-in tournament with big prizes. I see this poker is very quiet, the tables are empty also no players sit or play.

The website looks very flashy almost like VR but anyways I was going to ask about the encryption of the cards how's it working that only the player can see the cards but the back end operator can't, and if this is something that other casinos are doing or wether this is a novelty you guys came up with?

Well, maybe because they are quite new. You can join their telegram group so that you would know what time mostly they are online since only a few players are playing on that gambling site. Indeed, you are right. They should make an action to lure people in that gambling site poker. Tournaments with having big prizes and free testing, speaking of free testing the admin on telegram group giving sometimes a free test on their site. Well, it is early to decide.

Give it time. Anything come from small and surely they are working they way up. Competition nowadays is no doubt very tough.

Promotions and any related kinds of stuff are surely on their future plans now.

Telegram Admins should involve themselves in organizing Poker game with designated time so that all are informed when is the best time to play poker. They can even set up their own individual to play the game but gamblers there must know that it's part of the team (I know it will raise questions but I believed in the provably fair). They will do it until they successfully reached a certain number that played poker any time of the day. Telegram community is small too so they need to be aggressive and active as always.

Telegram admin is doing well so far, I have played against him and other player several times already. Users who have some balance from the telegram giveaway may inform/notice other members on the group to invite them to play on a table as what I did in the last few days. Too bad the internet connection in my area is in bad condition recently because of maintenance so it affects my play as I get disconnected many times. It seems that we need to have good internet connection to get the best experience in fair.poker I hope there will be a bit update on the site to make it lighter so users with slow internet connection can play without any problems.

All we know that poker is the most popular card game all over the word and I think bitcoin is a good twist in card game like poker and now it is under at texas so it has a good reputation. I am interested specially at the game graphics that I feel that I am at in the real casino. I hope they can add some more game features and more security features.

Well, that is exactly. We had the same feelings on the way of looking at the UI graphics design just kinda real and you can also chat in the chatbox for further communications to other opponents and to express our feelings whether you are win or loss emotions. Indeed, that was pretty cool. Looking forward to that coming feature game but now they had a focus on driving traffic here in the forum to lure to the gambling enthusiasts and visit their web platform.

When i visited the site there were no tables and checked it after an hour or halfday it does still have the same situation which means

there were no interested on playing to this poker site.From its design its already non attracted one and needs some overhaul and putting up

something which can hooked up poker players but it seems the owner didnt focused too much into these matter.

We are currently focused on all matters which include bringing new players onto the website. Please do join our telegram group to get a welcome bonus and try Fair Poker: https://t.me/fairpoker

Recently i just looking around your telegram channel and it was 41 users joining it and for the beginning that's was good especially if they more active to playing however may i know what promotion still running on the telegram group currently

Today I decided to visit fair.poker to see what has changed since May. I may be wrong but it looks like there were no major changes there. I mean something like an opportunity to test the site without registration would be nice to have. It's not necessary to implement a faucet with real money, just give players some worthless chips so that they could test your platform.

Also, while exploring the site I encountered this scary message:


First of, it would be interesting to see an example of an attempt to disrupt the poker protocol. An secondly, regardless of the possibility of such an event, I think that potential scammers should be dealt with some other way, and this text should be taken out from the site because there are big chances that it scares off potential users.

Sites offering Poker are very few.
It's always good to see new poker sites.
And i am sure that all the members of the community will appreciate the site.
But as you said, the only thing lacking here is good sort of promotion.
The OP can really find best way to host promotions and contests so that more users join the site.
Good luck

Hey there, the security deposit is needed to disincetivize offending of the poker protocol. Offending the protocol means that a player is not executing the steps of the mental poker algorithm as required. In this case, the cryptographic operations would not complete successfully and the face-down cards of the players, as well as the board, would not be able to be opened. This would make the hand impossible to play.

By default the application which you find on https://fair.poker always executes the protocol correctly and there is no danger of penalty. However, a malicious player might hack into the client-side application and change how his computer interacts with the game. As this would disturb the game and make playing the hand impossible, we must penalize him for that. The penalty varies depending on the size of the pot and the stakes of the game but it is always high enough to fully disincentivize bad protocol execution attempts.

They had already done signature campaign for a week then completely stopped.Why? The site didnt have an appealing graphics plus having no free roll or other promotions and stuff
which in result for having no players that i do saw in the tables.There are still lots of things to be considered on building up a new card-based gambling site.

How can we sure you really didn't saw our cards? I saw some demo on that site which is explained well. The only I am confused about is the 'encryption key' said since every player has unique 'encryption key'.

So, how can every player assure that they are the only one who can see the result after giving the encryption key to the server? Since even if we have the encryption key at our own hand, after all, we are still sending it to the server side, your system still can't see the cards?

As what I have said previously, the campaign wont bring to much effects on the site as there is nothing on the site that may attract players. No matter how long the campaign run or how many advertising they have out there but if there is no good things in the site then people will only visit then leave it away with no intention to come back because there is nothing worth for them to come back. I have said many times to most sites that has just started their signature campaign to not rely on it to give good effect. Signature campaign or any advertising strategies is just a way for any sites to make people aware about the site, they need something to make people who are aware about the site to stay on the site. This is the missing thing here, but seems that the owner does not really aware of what they need to make people stay and play.

Its not about the quality. If anything, the graphics of this site give off a retro vibe which looks stunning. The problem here is that it is a new site and it takes time to attract gamblers especially when there is a lot of competition.

They at least tried to attract players through their signature campaign which is worth appreciating. Instead of complaining, it is better to offer constructive advice which could help them in the long run.

I dont see any response from op here neither which is bad for a business.We are talking things but no one hears out.
Marketing isnt really effective anytime which we are all trying to say here.Its completely useless if people didnt able to enjoy it out.
This gambling site would bite the dust anytime soon.

Maybe OP is just preparing something big before we know it but should this kind of casino takes a lot of people to work out and not just a two to three persons. With lots of reputable casinos these days OP might have a hard time to compete with them since most of these gamblers go to the reputable casinos.

You word comes to reality because the signature campaign only last a week 😂

Maybe you’re right that poker advertisement must be in another form and not for signature campaign since poker are not that special game in this forum as well

Join our Telegram group to get a welcome bonus and try Fair Poker for free: https://t.me/fairpoker

But if you have enough budget to run the campaign why not staying on it? Just doing it for a week will not make any progressive changes anyway, even for me which is pretty active for some time but never catch his campaign. It is just matter of time actually and budget, but if OP does not havr any budget for marketing program, I doubt that it is going to work then. Since poker games has less attraction, they should put more effort on their marketing

Irrespective of the game I do think that campaign or any other streams of advertising should be prioritised. Marketing is very important and if that is not done properly no matter how good of a game you have people won't know about it and that puts your team & the entire operation in danger. This is why proper marketing management is necessary

Even if they have many funds for campaign but they do not have something else to offer through the site except the ring tables with no active players, there is no good reasons to continue the campaign. Simply because it will be wasting money only without any good effects. It is not as simple as a matter of time or budget, but it is more about what and how they are really serious to make people interested to play on the site. Frankly speaking, this is the only poker site that provides ring games only. Indeed there are some other promotions as listed on the site but I'm not really sure whether the promotions are valid or not especially the weekly promotion because I dont see anyone claiming that he/she get something from the weekly promotion.

I don't see any weekly promotions there, Freeroll tables or other tournaments just don't exist only ring table. The op must think again to attract the attention of gamblers to play there. Moreover, not many people like to play poker but if there is a promotion or something as time goes by there will be some players who are interested in playing ring games. I believe the op will not stay silent whatever is planned, hopefully it will run smoothly.

This is not something that your site need to offer or not to offer but the purpose for the campaign besides of giving the benefits for players, it lets people to know better about the site. It is one of the marketing strategy to gain more members. Even if the site does not have something special, people will play on their site of they are comfort with it. So actually campaign is a necessary thing to have from the start of a new site

We are launching a promotional cash game table at Fair Poker. We will buy-in all new users for free!

The rules are the following:

• Players will be bought-into the game for free. You'll receive 300 bits
• You are required to join our Telegram group and ask for your promotion there: https://t.me/fairpoker
• A player only qualifies for this promotion once
• Players who have received a welcome bonus are not eligible for this promotion

The promotional table will run every day for at least two hours a day, according the the following schedule: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jWQi-wYN9hnzF-Fr3fjwAUHRNvn8Iu-uy47kDPB5e98/edit?usp=sharing

https://i.imgur.com/4dvMBlH.png

During these hours we guarantee that there will always be at least one host to play against you.

No offenses to the on going promotion but why you dont try freeroll or tournamemt with the free 300bits where users will use it as a buy in for the tournament and the prizepool will be based on the total registered players multiply by 300bits plus maybe some additional prize from your pocket. I believe it will be more attractive than ring games.

I think that with just the freeroll, any promotion gets up, because people like that emotion very much, together with the adrenaline that is produced. There are some platforms that are actually highly respected, such as freebitco.in, stake.com, some strategies of these great should apply, because the important thing is to have people playing 24 hours and give bonuses, maybe a rain of cryptos would help the community .

In order to create the world's first provably fair poker room we developed brand new software from scratch. As of this stage, we have not finished the development of tournament mode software. For now, we only support No-Limit Hold'em cash games.

The promotion is currently running! Welcome to join us in the next two hours.

7PM CET: Promotional table is now open. Join our telegram group to claim your bonus: https://t.me/fairpoker

It seems there is no significant improvement on your traffic since you launch the promotional cash game month ago. As I can see there are only few players who are active there, I'm familiar with those names as I have played with him few times. What is your plan now? Still not interested to make tournament games type?

Actually i want to play in this casino to testing poker room but currently there was no players available at there and no upcoming tournaments too even i had seen their telegram group channel and seems not many people make conversation to talking about related to poker however i'm waiting too to see free tournaments and looking forward to further update

I played for a few hours here and there with some new players and the admins of the site, here's what I think so far:

1. Awesome if the client-side encryption works as advertised, but I'm not a tech guy so I don't know if it's really doing that or just hocus pocus lol
2. Site works fast on chromebook browser
3. mobile browser (iPhone, Chrome browser) was a bit laggy, not sure if it's just my phone though
3. Current $5 Free Play money was given just as advertised
4. Love the colors and design
5. Bitcoin deposit and withdrawal works pretty fast both ways

I'll be streaming on Twitch later this week if you guys wanna get comfortable with the site that way. Twitch SN is "SuperBusboy"

Yea the site is low traffic, but I think it's gonna blow up if it is what they claim to be.

The only thing that can keep this platform from not having mad traffic is if people are not area of it. This is why no matter how great your platform is you'll always have fewer members than the potential number, so advertising and making your project visible to people is also just as important as creating the site.

Poker games are card games that can be played by 2 or more people the same as non-online poker games. This game relies on skill, strategy, and luck. The chance of winning is based on how good the cards. At a poker game we don't know the opponent's cards and the cards that will come down on the table even the operator can't manipulate the cards so it's hard to see fraud in this game.

You're right in that the game is all about who has the best cards but if there was a way to manipulate which cards are dealt, then in theory you could rig the game. I'm not sure if this is done, especially on this platform but I'd assume transparency across all games.

I thought this site has dead already as there was no updated at all for few months in this thread. Your affiliate program looks attractive but I doubt people will be interested to work on it because it will be useless for them to promote your site for the affiliate program because there is no active players on your site. Lets say someone has a review website with great daily visit, he may get many referrals but the referrals may not play at all since they have no other players to play with on the site.
I appreciate your efforts to make this site survive as long as possible, but I'm sorry to say that it is still hard to attract poker players to play on your site with what all you have/offer at the moment.

Saw this site when you posted about the affiliate program last week.
Hopped on this morning and there was nobody playing. As the poster above said, you need to find a way to get more players.
Either through sig campaign or something. Because if the table is empty people are just going to come in wait for a few minutes and leave to go somewhere where there are players.

-Dave

They have done signature campaign before but it did not work to gain players as there is nothing attractive on the site. Inside promotion will be better than signature campaign for pvp type game like this. Promotion that makes people come and stay for long time is really needed. Actually free roll tournament or GTD tournament is the best way for poker sites but too bad their system is not ready for it so there is only ring games on the site.

Well they did have a signature campaign a few weeks ago, but unfortunately their signature campaign which was managed by yahoo was only able to run for a week. I don't know why it's only been running for a week, maybe it's true what you're saying, that their site is not attracting attention of players. I myself when looking at this poker site, it is a little less interesting because most every gambling site has several events that are able to attract players.

Not because the site is less attractive, but people who have little interest in playing poker. If you see several crypto poker sites they have less traffic than some casinos with different games. Only SwC Poker has good traffic. For new poker sites like fair poker it will be difficult to compete. So to attract the attention of gamblers they have to make a promotion and some free roll tournaments also reopen the signature campaign.

Def not a sig campaign.  Not yet...  Sig campaigns are good complementary promotional campaigns, not as your main campaign to get new players in.  

I'd suggest a BBJ at small - medium stakes (25NL to 200NL USD equivalent) with the the site's 70% RB.  And no rake at nano stakes (2NL USD equivalent).  Attract the small fry to attract other small fries by the numbers and make that the foundation of the site.  The better players could move up from there and build up the economy for higher stakes which could attract action and bring outside players in at the same time if the traffic is decent.

Sig campaigns are ineffective when done for short bursts or with lack of funds. But if you have the intent and the budget to push for a proper marketing campaign then you need to push for a guerilla campaign. You suggestion of small fries bringing in small fries is like trickle down economy. Good in writing not in practicality.

Bobby Lee just tweeted about Fair.Poker  8) ::)

https://twitter.com/bobbyclee/status/1186850560944693248

Let me post an image on Bobby Lee twitted.

https://i.imgur.com/U6QqMVU.jpg

Done retweet and liked, just a little help to my previous signature campaign that I promoted before. I hope your team decided to run again.

Aside from the affiliate program is there another promoting program that will happen?

I saw some of his tweets mentioning poker games seem like Bobby Lee is a fan of poker games too. But I am curious why fair poker can be mentioned in his tweet, does fair poker initiate a collaboration with one of these crypto influencers?

There can be some possibilities such as:
- Bobby Lee is being paid by Fair Poker to promote the site through his twitter account
- Bobby Lee is part of Fair Poker (can be player or even can be the owner?) who knows.
- Bobby Lee is poker lover who like to share any new poker sites for free.

Frankly speaking I do not even know who is Bobby Lee, but just checked through google and I can see that he is an actor. I wonder how this tweet will affect Fair Poker but hopefully it will be a good marketing strategy.

Bobby Lee is Charlie Lee's (Litecoin founder) brother and the founder of China's first Bitcoin Exchange BTCChina. BTCChina was one of the biggest crypto exchanges in the world by volume until 2017.

Is this poker PvP or PvM? And could you give more information about "provably fair" you claimed.

This is PvP as earlier mentioned.

Basing up on whats written into their site about fairness in on here: https://fair.poker/tech

Hmm, it's great to know that it's player versus player. I'm gonna try it and leave my feedback here.

Besides i never heard of ellectic curves mechanism but i need to read it first to learn more. Thank you for reply btw.

Havent hear out this one too yet I'm not too techy or some sort of coding guy to understand to verify if these provably fair thing sounds legit or not.

Verifying from experts here on this forum would be highly appreciated.I would love to hear out your review soon on what
are the things you do observe of this website.

short answer: It is really hard to tell if they cheat or no without through and through inspection of the client source and its API.

Tech they speak about will definitely work as they say it works if it is implemented as they say it is. The questions are: if this tech was actually implemented the way it should be and if there are no hidden data leaks/pushes happen. And to know for sure we need to check the sources of the client and its API - if the client really generates a random key, really encrypts cards with it and sends the digest to the server (but not the key), if all key exchanges happen as they say it happens - then it is legit.

But that all can be spoiled and manipulated by a single API call that can be hidden anywhere in their scrambled js code. Also since they use web frontend it is really hard to detect when changes have been made to the app - normal user wouldn't notice that something changed under the hood next time they press f5 so code review today does not necessarily guarantee fair play tomorrow.

Also, I didn't register there myself - and didn't really look if they publish some proofs/sources - everything I wrote was based on reading their algorithm explanation.

This is the problem when all of these new casinos claim provability of the game but I always question how this fairness is ensured by the provider. In many cases I find that the claim is just a statement, like on here, without the proof of being so. If there is a credible source then, obviously it would give more strength to the claim, otherwise it is not unequivocal.

It is clearly stated how the fairness is ensured.


Yes, client source code is open and can be inspected. Also, you can monitor the network requests sent from your browser to verify that no cards keys are send but the expected ones. A third party may even write a plugin to automatically verify the integrity of each dealt hand.

In any case, at fair poker you have massively greater fairness transparency compared to all other poker sites.

https://twitter.com/MrHodl/status/1189293368934850563

https://i.imgur.com/8ozVr43.png


🤩 MrHodl is organizing a poker game on Fair Poker!

⏱️ Nov 3rd, Sunday, 4PM EST

🤑 We'll be opening special NO RAKE 25/50, 50/100 and 100/200 bits tables for the duration of the event!

Put it down in your calendar and join us at the tables! Good luck to everyone 😎

All company details are listed in the ToS section.

To be honest, I'm not really sure if this promo will attract players to come and play on your site as there is nothing special except the NO RAKE offer.
The starting time could be something not friendly to some users because it will start on 3AM for me. Anyway, how long is the duration of this promo?
If you are focusing on ring table only, then I think it is better if you offer something like Bad Beat Jackpot as it can be something attractive to poker players and it may boost your traffic IMO.

We'll keep the no rake tables for at least 6 hours.

Do you have the registration details of your company in Costa Rica?

Anyone else got hard time looking at font and colors in lobby/settings? maybe I need more time to adapt :)

Nevertheless, I'm going to give Fair poker a shot. With playing and affiliate, too.

Keep updating twitter if there are any games running

Game today at 4PM EST - don't miss it! Good luck to everyone  8)

Is the operator of this show anonymous?

I have already replied to you where are the registration details of the company.

not much has changed in the last period, I think that the site will stop working

Yes, sadly its ghost town. No body is playing its only active when owners give away 50 buy ins in their Telegram

It is not surprising at all, as predicted earlier that it is hard to have a poker game only. It is hard to attract players to be actively playing while there is nothing interesting on the site.
This site provide cash game table only, no SnG, no GTD, no others attractive offers. I wonder what the owner is going to do now, whether he will upgrade the site with some attractive offers or he will shut it down.

Site is dead? I've been curious and following them for a while. Seemed like a good idea overall but when I logged on I saw nothing.

Not fully dead, website is still up but seems that it has low number of active players. Its been a while since my last visit, not really sure if they have some updates lately. Basically fair.poker has nice interface, owner needs to do something great to make it full of active players.

https://i.imgur.com/60YAL1k.png

💰 We're organizing a cash game today with Mr Hodl.

💸 50/100 bits stakes. 0.01 BTC recommended buy-in.

🤑 $300 in added cash prizes

⏳ Starting at 2pm EST/ 7pm GMT

Details: https://twitter.com/FairPokerBTC/status/1341785583753060353