|
Title: Craig Wright Post by: AquaRegia1 on May 23, 2019, 02:08:17 AM Hi,
With all the recent developments in regards to CSW claiming to be Satoshi and now lodging a copyright on the BTC white paper, is the Bitcoin core development team going to counter this claim and lodge their own re-submission of copyright? This whole debacle has gone too far and csw needs shutting down. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: CryptoBry on May 23, 2019, 02:41:29 AM With all the recent developments in regards to CSW claiming to be Satoshi and now lodging a copyright on the BTC white paper, is the Bitcoin core development team going to counter this claim and lodge their own re-submission of copyright? This whole debacle has gone too far and csw needs shutting down. I have not heard any news if there will be some actions to be taken by those in the Bitcoin Foundation regarding the filing for the copyright of the original Bitcoin WhitePaper by Craig Wright. Well, for me, I think it is practically immaterial who owns the copyright for that document since the copyright to that does not give the holder the right to own Bitcoin. He can have it anytime but Bitcoin is owner-less. Craig Wright is emerging as the biggest joker in the world of cryptocurrency and he is determined to stop at nothing until he can convince one and all that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto. I am wondering why if he is the real guy why he never continue posting on this forum...maybe old age is getting into him and can not remember the password anymore? Or maybe he is a lying psychopath who is basking on glory for his undeserved popularity? Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: jseverson on May 23, 2019, 03:26:22 AM With all the recent developments in regards to CSW claiming to be Satoshi and now lodging a copyright on the BTC white paper, is the Bitcoin core development team going to counter this claim and lodge their own re-submission of copyright? This whole debacle has gone too far and csw needs shutting down. I don't think anyone should be claiming to copyright the whitepaper. It's bad that CSW is claiming it, and it would be worse if another individual/group claimed it (with the community's support) on top of that. It would feel like the community is branding one entity good, the other one evil, and that just sets a dangerous precedent against decentralization. Either way, it's not looking good for him: This seems odd. Copyrights aren’t “granted” in Berne Convention countries like the United States, where works are copyrighted automatically, upon the act of publication. If left unclaimed, works can be copyrighted within five years of publication—this constitutes a form of legally admissible “evidence” of the originator’s claims to the work. But the Bitcoin white paper was published ten years ago—Wright is five years too late to claim ownership. Does he really need to be shut down? I feel like he's doing plenty of that to himself -- look at how desperate he's being. No sane person takes him seriously anyway. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: figmentofmyass on May 23, 2019, 03:38:25 AM the copyright office apparently got so inundated by people contacting them about this that they put out a press release in response: https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html?loclr=twcop
Quote May 22, 2019: Questions about Certain Bitcoin Registrations As a general rule, when the Copyright Office receives an application for registration, the claimant certifies as to the truth of the statements made in the submitted materials. The Copyright Office does not investigate the truth of any statement made. In a case in which a work is registered under a pseudonym, the Copyright Office does not investigate whether there is a provable connection between the claimant and the pseudonymous author. In the case of the two registrations issued to Mr. Wright, during the examination process, the Office took note of the well-known pseudonym “Satoshi Nakamoto,” and asked the applicant to confirm that Craig Steven Wright was the author and claimant of the works being registered. Mr. Wright made that confirmation. This correspondence is part of the public registration record. they don't "recognize" wright as satoshi at all. they don't investigate such claims. that's not what they do. all the copyright office does is maintain records of copyright registration. disputes over authorship of copyrighted works get worked out in the federal courts. there's nothing wright can do with this registration. he's either crazy or he's playing a larger game we don't understand, but there's nothing he can do to bitcoin. the notion from that coingeek article that he can leverage the copyright to charge rent on bitcoin's code is ludicrous. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: dothebeats on May 23, 2019, 04:30:32 AM I don't think core devs would even contest this. It would only make it look political and that's the last thing they wanted to avoid. Let CSW do things that would also be his own demise. Like highschool textbooks, he might be written as the founder of bitcoin and be regarded as an intellectual but to us who know the story very well, he's just someone who wanted money, power and tax privlieges (LMAO). He cannot alter bitcoin in any way even though he was granted copyrights so who cares.
Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: CryptoBry on May 23, 2019, 07:04:10 AM I don't think core devs would even contest this. It would only make it look political and that's the last thing they wanted to avoid. Let CSW do things that would also be his own demise. Like highschool textbooks, he might be written as the founder of bitcoin and be regarded as an intellectual but to us who know the story very well, he's just someone who wanted money, power and tax privlieges (LMAO). He cannot alter bitcoin in any way even though he was granted copyrights so who cares. I agree. Let Craig Wright do whatever he wanted to do and be the clown for all the media to enjoy with. He craved for publicity and he will do anything to make that happen. The U.S. Copyright Office has already issued some clarifications on the process of filing for the copyright of any document...it is not actually for them to decide for that and that they are just a receiving and filing office. They need to issue such clarification because of the media frenzy Craig Wright just made proclaiming that he now own the copyright of the original Bitcoin WhitePaper. The industry need good leaders but sometimes a clown can come and we can realize that he is not really bad at all in that role. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: jseverson on May 23, 2019, 10:32:43 AM Like highschool textbooks, he might be written as the founder of bitcoin and be regarded as an intellectual but to us who know the story very well, he's just someone who wanted money, power and tax privlieges (LMAO). He cannot alter bitcoin in any way even though he was granted copyrights so who cares. I wouldn't go that far. Lying is one thing, but revisionism to that degree is a different matter entirely. CSW being "officially" established as Satoshi, with all the evidence (or lack thereof) thus far should be completely unacceptable based on facts alone, regardless of what he could do with it. As for altering the code, or monetizing it, or whatever, you're right. It's under the MIT software license, so there's ultimately no point. I would still be very wary if he succeeds though, however unlikely it's looking. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: AquaRegia1 on May 23, 2019, 01:33:08 PM The whole thing stinks and makes me think that CSW is pulling a stunt of epic proportions to attempt to push his BSV shitcoin on to the unsuspecting newcomers to the space.
Another thought I had was that he has realised he is going to loose the court case bought against him by Ira Kleiman and is desperately attempting to raise enough capital to pay back the 1 Million plus BTC he stole in a retrospective illegitimate business venture with D Kleiman (rest his soul). Multiple evidences in this court case have been fraudulent and retracted by CSW's legal counsel. I truly hope he is found guilty! There is such confliction, CSW is a money hungry and fame hungry narcissist, why would he not keep any private keys used by SN in the early days if he truly was SN? He's an unhinged individual who needs to up his dose of lithium. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: sheenshane on May 23, 2019, 05:17:18 PM It is really hurting that CSW was claiming the Bitcoin's whitepaper. But I don't really understand why. There's a chance that he has a reason why he claims it. Does he know Satoshi or the team under that name?
But I can also see that Craig Wright seems like he has some mental illness/disorder. I don't really understand the point of him becoming a famewhore. Maybe when he was a young kid, his parents never recognized him. We will see once the hearing is done against CSW. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: target on May 23, 2019, 05:45:06 PM Why are we considering this joker to be the real Satoshi when he hasn't prove anything yet except forking a forked coin. If you were satoshi you can't just entirely forget the wallet you got that contains more than a million of it. He has to prove it otherwise he is a fake. If its true that the government is really honoring him, then they really are trying grab for the control that they may never have in this decentralize market. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: Harlot on May 23, 2019, 06:25:36 PM Probably what's on the line here is they'll be accepting a man who just stolen Satoshi's identity but they could also sacrifice the truth on telling his real identity. What do they need though is to show some kind of proof without sacrificing Satoshi's real identity in the process which I think would be a hard task to counter the claim. Craig Wright might just be even doing this in order for them to spill some beans about him.
Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: AquaRegia1 on May 24, 2019, 12:49:45 AM Not considering him as SN, just worried about the negative effect of this on the BTC space and the ongoing BS we will have to put up with.
Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: marcbitcoins on May 24, 2019, 05:33:06 AM This guy has a unique strategy on how to earned more in cryptos by claiming he is Satoshi but i don't think he will be sued by anyone due to copyright issue because since from the beginning there is no one patented Bitcoin for the copyright and no one really knows who is the real Satoshi is.
Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: Kemarit on May 24, 2019, 04:47:57 PM Hi, With all the recent developments in regards to CSW claiming to be Satoshi and now lodging a copyright on the BTC white paper, is the Bitcoin core development team going to counter this claim and lodge their own re-submission of copyright? I agree that CSW is a loose cannon right now. He has been in the offensive as of late, claiming the Whitepaper and as if saying that he is Satoshi. However, I don't know if Bitcoin core will counter his claims, do you have any link to back this up? This whole debacle has gone too far and csw needs shutting down. One advantage CSW has right now is that he has a deep pocket. If someone want to counter his claim, that person should have millions and millions so that he can go shutdown that mofo. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: monalia on May 24, 2019, 07:45:14 PM This guy has a unique strategy on how to earned more in cryptos by claiming he is Satoshi but i don't think he will be sued by anyone due to copyright issue because since from the beginning there is no one patented Bitcoin for the copyright and no one really knows who is the real Satoshi is. His initial singed message on this is enough to prove who is satoshi. If he want do copyright patent then let him do but here people are well known and understanding about Craig is he seems very little role played in the development of btc. Satoshi will not come to light until bitcoin reached 50k USD as i believe. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: Mahanton on May 25, 2019, 09:53:26 PM Hi, I believe that they dont actually care about on having any counter regarding on CW claim with BTC's whitepaper. Crypto Community do already aware With all the recent developments in regards to CSW claiming to be Satoshi and now lodging a copyright on the BTC white paper, is the Bitcoin core development team going to counter this claim and lodge their own re-submission of copyright? This whole debacle has gone too far and csw needs shutting down. on whats the truth and they wont easily bite it up. About CW it doesnt need to be shut down yet we do have our own insights but most of the things come out into his mouth is just pure nonsense to listen on. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: davis196 on May 26, 2019, 11:39:59 AM Hi, With all the recent developments in regards to CSW claiming to be Satoshi and now lodging a copyright on the BTC white paper, is the Bitcoin core development team going to counter this claim and lodge their own re-submission of copyright? This whole debacle has gone too far and csw needs shutting down. Shutting down?What do you mean by shutting him down?Hiring some assassin to kill Craig Wright? ;D All we have to do is to just ignore that idiot. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: figmentofmyass on May 26, 2019, 05:47:49 PM One advantage CSW has right now is that he has a deep pocket. If someone want to counter his claim, that person should have millions and millions so that he can go shutdown that mofo. i'm not sure CSW has deep pockets, but calvin ayre does. that's who is bankrolling everything. if the two ever have a falling out (like CSW and roger ver did) then CSW will be like a fish out of water. unfortunately, there's no way to "counter" his claim regardless of money. the copyright office will register any number of claims to the whitepaper or original source code. they will just let the copyright holders duke it out in court if there is ever an ownership dispute. the genius of wright's move is that there's no way to dispute it. there's no way for him to leverage the copyright in any way, but some non-zero number of gullible souls will walk away from this believing it means he is satoshi. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: AquaRegia1 on May 27, 2019, 03:09:06 AM One advantage CSW has right now is that he has a deep pocket. If someone want to counter his claim, that person should have millions and millions so that he can go shutdown that mofo. i'm not sure CSW has deep pockets, but calvin ayre does. that's who is bankrolling everything. if the two ever have a falling out (like CSW and roger ver did) then CSW will be like a fish out of water. unfortunately, there's no way to "counter" his claim regardless of money. the copyright office will register any number of claims to the whitepaper or original source code. they will just let the copyright holders duke it out in court if there is ever an ownership dispute. the genius of wright's move is that there's no way to dispute it. there's no way for him to leverage the copyright in any way, but some non-zero number of gullible souls will walk away from this believing it means he is satoshi. The one counter the whole BTC community has is to ask faketoshi to move some BTC in to a known satoshi address and out again. Simple Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: ene1980 on May 27, 2019, 06:49:32 PM I agree. Let Craig Wright do whatever he wanted to do and be the clown for all the media to enjoy with. He craved for publicity and he will do anything to make that happen. I am not liking the antics of Craig Wright in any shape or form but he already claimed that he has registered the bitcoin.org domain through his credit card and if that is true i am not sure what to take of that situation, if he has the balls to register the copyright claim, the fines might not be that big but the tag of being a fraudster will be set in stone if that were mere lies. The drama will continue as long as someone will sign the genesis block. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: 1Referee on May 27, 2019, 08:12:53 PM I am not liking the antics of Craig Wright in any shape or form but he already claimed that he has registered the bitcoin.org domain through his credit card and if that is true i am not sure what to take of that situation, if he has the balls to register the copyright claim, the fines might not be that big but the tag of being a fraudster will be set in stone if that were mere lies. The drama will continue as long as someone will sign the genesis block. Craig can claim as much as he wants. It's clear by now that if Craig was satoshi, he would have signed from the address containing the genesis block reward back in 2015/2016. I'm much more looking forward to the day Craig and Calvin start suing each other. Both have huge egos, and one day they will collide with a fight as result. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: mindrust on May 27, 2019, 08:23:39 PM I am not liking the antics of Craig Wright in any shape or form but he already claimed that he has registered the bitcoin.org domain through his credit card and if that is true i am not sure what to take of that situation, if he has the balls to register the copyright claim, the fines might not be that big but the tag of being a fraudster will be set in stone if that were mere lies. The drama will continue as long as someone will sign the genesis block. Craig can claim as much as he wants. It's clear by now that if Craig was satoshi, he would have signed from the address containing the genesis block reward back in 2015/2016. I'm much more looking forward to the day Craig and Calvin start suing each other. Both have huge egos, and one day they will collide with a fight as result. They need to drag Roger too. As far as I know Craig is making moves to take bitcoin(dot)com, this is scary and pleasant as the same time. If he succeeds, we'll be getting rid off Roger for good but will have to deal with Craig but since he is ridiculous beyond imagination he won't be able to cause much harm. The bad part is, if he manages to take bitcoin(dot)com from Roger, he sure can take .org domain and anything related to bitcoin as well. I just want 3 of them to fight forever in a pool of mud. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: ene1980 on May 27, 2019, 08:36:51 PM Craig can claim as much as he wants. It's clear by now that if Craig was satoshi, he would have signed from the address containing the genesis block reward back in 2015/2016. He could have done that when the entire drama started but rather than signing from the address from the genesis block i am not sure what he is trying to do, the explanation he gave is that even if he signs people will call him out telling he stole the private key from someone else as private key cannot exclusive confirm that he is the owner ::). I am sure all these egos will clash at some point of time :D.I'm much more looking forward to the day Craig and Calvin start suing each other. Both have huge egos, and one day they will collide with a fight as result. They need to drag Roger too. As far as I know Craig is making moves to take bitcoin(dot)com, this is scary and pleasant as the same time. If he succeeds, we'll be getting rid off Roger for good but will have to deal with Craig but since he is ridiculous beyond imagination he won't be able to cause much harm. It will be a shit show for sure when all these egos fight between each other and if Craig is after bitcoin.com how come he is able to take over that domain if it is under the custody of Roger, does the copyright Craig attained right now will force Roger to release that domain, not sure how that thing works when it comes to domains.The bad part is, if he manages to take bitcoin(dot)com from Roger, he sure can take .org domain and anything related to bitcoin as well. I just want 3 of them to fight forever in a pool of mud. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: 1Referee on May 27, 2019, 08:47:47 PM They need to drag Roger too. As far as I know Craig is making moves to take bitcoin(dot)com, this is scary and pleasant as the same time. If he succeeds, we'll be getting rid off Roger for good but will have to deal with Craig but since he is ridiculous beyond imagination he won't be able to cause much harm. The bad part is, if he manages to take bitcoin(dot)com from Roger, he sure can take .org domain and anything related to bitcoin as well. I just want 3 of them to fight forever in a pool of mud. They are already attacking Roger and Jihan by attacking the BCash network with attempted double spend attacks, mining empty to near empty blocks and other cheats. Recently Jihan and his fellow minion had to 51% attack their own chain in order to undo the damage caused by a rogue miner. I doubt Craig has even a remote chance to take any domain. If it was so easy for one single scammer to troll Bitcoin so hard, then imagine what would happen if governments start doing it. In the end, I'm glad that Bitcoin is much stronger than a few domains. The whitepaper doesn't even matter anymore. The economy has chosen Bitcoin and rejected the other scams. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: figmentofmyass on May 27, 2019, 09:17:30 PM As far as I know Craig is making moves to take bitcoin(dot)com, this is scary and pleasant as the same time. If he succeeds, we'll be getting rid off Roger for good but will have to deal with Craig but since he is ridiculous beyond imagination he won't be able to cause much harm. The bad part is, if he manages to take bitcoin(dot)com from Roger, he sure can take .org domain and anything related to bitcoin as well. how does he plan to pull that off? :D being an absurd patent troll doesn't entitle him to other peoples' property (the domains). he doesn't own the bitcoin name or brand. in fact, he doesn't even own the copyrights he registered. he just registered a copyright claim, which does nothing for him legally. anyone who believes his plans and schemes is giving him way too much credit. he's going after gullible low hanging fruit. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: Chikitita2004 on May 28, 2019, 05:02:55 PM It is really hurting that CSW was claiming the Bitcoin's whitepaper. But I don't really understand why. There's a chance that he has a reason why he claims it. Does he know Satoshi or the team under that name? Well, everybody wants popularity, much more to be connected with the king of crypto. That could make him at the top of the issue. I was just wondering, after all these years, why only now, and if indeed he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto what has he been doing the past years when other personalities came out claimed they were the one? But I can also see that Craig Wright seems like he has some mental illness/disorder. I don't really understand the point of him becoming a famewhore. Maybe when he was a young kid, his parents never recognized him. We will see once the hearing is done against CSW. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: Kasabus on May 30, 2019, 08:44:56 AM Unfornately some people believe that Craig Wright was the real satoshi.
When Binance delisted BSV, I thought it's a game over for this project, but it's not, this guy is still very influencial in the market and that can be proven because the market now is again surprise with BSV 100% increase in just less than 24 hours. Don't know if it's because of this news https://todaysgazette.com/fake-chinese-news-on-binance-craig-wright-pumps-bitcoin-sv-bsv-by-50/ But the money invested is huge enough to pump BSV and people would not risk that amount if there is no good reason. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: fortunecrypto on June 01, 2019, 04:40:25 AM Hi, With all the recent developments in regards to CSW claiming to be Satoshi and now lodging a copyright on the BTC white paper, is the Bitcoin core development team going to counter this claim and lodge their own re-submission of copyright? This whole debacle has gone too far and csw needs shutting down. Craig Wright is doing this to back up his own version of Bitcoin, his greediness is making him do outrageous stuff something the real Satoshi will ever do, I think the community should stand up against this guy and do not support his own version of Bitcoin just like some of the popular exchange in the market. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: aioc on June 02, 2019, 01:03:35 AM Hi, With all the recent developments in regards to CSW claiming to be Satoshi and now lodging a copyright on the BTC white paper, is the Bitcoin core development team going to counter this claim and lodge their own re-submission of copyright? This whole debacle has gone too far and csw needs shutting down. It happens because nobody is standing up against him, he keeps charging people who get in his way, but if the community will react and stand against him, he will be exposed finally as an impostor, he is doing all of these because he has the interest to protect, and that is his own version of Bitcoin. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: pushups44 on June 02, 2019, 06:21:02 AM One advantage CSW has right now is that he has a deep pocket. If someone want to counter his claim, that person should have millions and millions so that he can go shutdown that mofo. i'm not sure CSW has deep pockets, but calvin ayre does. that's who is bankrolling everything. if the two ever have a falling out (like CSW and roger ver did) then CSW will be like a fish out of water. unfortunately, there's no way to "counter" his claim regardless of money. the copyright office will register any number of claims to the whitepaper or original source code. they will just let the copyright holders duke it out in court if there is ever an ownership dispute. the genius of wright's move is that there's no way to dispute it. there's no way for him to leverage the copyright in any way, but some non-zero number of gullible souls will walk away from this believing it means he is satoshi. Ayre may have deep pockets, but so do others who don't like these legal tactics. There are millionaires and billionaires I'm sure who don't like any of this drama. I suspect CSW and Ayre will face an even battle eventually, and even the courts have a tendency to frown upon those using their wealth to bully others. I think this is a potential minefield for them because sooner or later they will meet their match. Big institutions are stepping in and they don't play fair. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: AquaRegia1 on August 29, 2019, 01:42:42 PM Looks like CSW is well and truly sent to the cleaners now 😂
Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: Kemarit on August 29, 2019, 10:27:08 PM Looks like CSW is well and truly sent to the cleaners now 😂 I think its over now for CSW, he is done, but we all know that this kind of personality won't simply stop so I'm sure he will file again to delay such payment that the court had ordered him. Regarding your question though, I don't think that the developer wanted to drag themselves here. It has been proven that CSW is really a fraud and it's just a waste of time and money for them. Besides, those people are busy and doesn't want to get any attention unlike CSW. Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: figmentofmyass on August 29, 2019, 10:39:46 PM Looks like CSW is well and truly sent to the cleaners now 😂 I think its over now for CSW, he is done we haven't seen the last of him. he's already using the court decision to plant the seeds for further FUD/market manipulation. he was already trying to convince the market that the "tulip trust" would be opened and liquidated near the 2020 halving. now he's saying it'll happen even sooner because ira kleiman is gonna dump the coins instead. of course CSW is framing this as FUD for bitcoin, but not for BSV. this is from an interview a couple days ago: (https://modernconsensus.com/cryptocurrencies/bitcoin/exclusive-interview-with-craig-wright-just-after-ordered-to-pay-5-billion-in-bitcoin/) Quote "Will this affect BSV?" "BSV, it won’t. But the judge ordered me to send just under 500,000 BTC over to Ira. Let’s see what it does to the market. I wouldn’t have tanked the market. I’m nice." Title: Re: Craig Wright Post by: Flor1982 on November 01, 2019, 10:50:02 AM Looks like CSW is well and truly sent to the cleaners now 😂 I think its over now for CSW, he is done, but we all know that this kind of personality won't simply stop so I'm sure he will file again to delay such payment that the court had ordered him. Regarding your question though, I don't think that the developer wanted to drag themselves here. It has been proven that CSW is really a fraud and it's just a waste of time and money for them. Besides, those people are busy and doesn't want to get any attention unlike CSW. I also agree CSW drama is finished as far as i know he is now facing lawsuits for the claim as the founder of Bitcoin but at least his Bitcoin SV elevated and gained of some figures in the market. I just feel sorry to those who easily believe and invest to BSV because they thought that it was also created by Satoshi Nakamoto himself. |