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To clarify, the below post is not written by me.

"Is it true that Craig Wright is the real Satoshi as he claims?"

- https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-Craig-Wright-is-the-real-Satoshi-as-he-claims/answer/Satoshi-Nakamoto-31 (https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-Craig-Wright-is-the-real-Satoshi-as-he-claims/answer/Satoshi-Nakamoto-31)

"Craig Wright has no single proof he is me, Satoshi Nakamoto.

The man has a track record of lies and derail.

He does not own the private key of the genesis block, he does not know how it is composed, he can not create from scratch the genesisblock to form the final hash, embedded in the source code of bitcoin.

He does not have the private key of pgp key 0x5ec948a1, known as my pgp key.

He is unable to transact one bitcoin of the whale wallets of the early coins.

He tricked the public using the wrong vistomail account.

He did try to sign and proof in front of Gavin Andresen and the BBC, he did fail.

He was part of the setup to create bitcoin unlimited to enlarge the blocksize, so it would be more difficult for the common man to run a fullnode blockchain on their own hardware, so it would only be for the big players, such as mining farms.

Finally he did launch his own altcoin Bitcoin cash. On websites such as Bitcoin.com ( do notice I registered and transferred bitcoin.org at that time. They did try to derail again, to sell the altcoin as a new bitcoin version or the 'right' bitcoin as intended. Abusing the term bitcoin for their altcoin. Promoting, buy bitcoin, but it was bitcoin cash or bitcoin unlimited, two altcoins.

A hardfork did happen where his altcoin did lose and in the process it was clear, bitcoin cash was prone to the 51 percent attack. More. Only a few miners did play the game.

In the process he did tweet in despair the community to convert bitcoin (core) to his altcoin, bitcoinSV or bsv. Known that it is estimated, I have a whale wallet of 1M btc, you would directly convert yourself, if Craig Wright was Satoshi Nakamoto, right?

Also our style and attitude is totally different. I, Satoshin, was NEVER into the play to be a dictator, to patent, to control or lead the project. I always proposed solutions, as my work was given to the public. For sure, there is copyright on the white paper, but this is assigned at creation to the author by international law.

His last steps recently are to claim patents, including an US copyright on my white paper. For that he did pay a small amount of 35 dollar or something, to do an electronic depot of the very well known white paper, bitcoin.pdf However, the office does not verify if the claimant of the copyright does match with the pen name of the author. So they registered the claim for copyright, however.

I, Satoshi Nakamoto, did register the white paper long before the release on the internet in the period 2008–2009 at a Belgian notary office, just in case, this would happen, so in a court case, he would be busted.

Additionally it seems, to my limited knowledge in the matter, you need to file in the 5 years after creation and the paper may not be published to the public. The white paper was published to the public about 10 years ago.

So no doubt, Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

In fact, the community can check this. If all investors in his altcoin bitcoinSV or bsv do convert their coins to the original bitcoin core, btc, you will see for sure, there will be no single bitcoin from the whale wallet of Satoshi Nakamoto, that will be converted to rescue the altcoin.

Of course I can hijack his coin with my whale wallet, but I try to avoid this as long as possible, so I can stay in the grey zone. The reason for this is clear. When I come forward in public, the press will hunt me down like they did with Dorian Nakamoto. Also each day, some people will ask me for bitcoin or my interaction or remarks on the project.

It is pretty comfortable to be in the grey zone.

But this said, I am bold to state, Craig Wright is an imposter if he does claim to be me, Satoshi Nakamoto.

My real name is Jurgen E. G. DEBO, born in Belgium. On twitter @realsatoshin. Reason why I did use the german GMX service. More people are from Europe in the project. Another good developer in the project bitcoin core is from Holland, despite his name sounds…well. And no doubt there are connections with Switzerland, reason why Hal Finney did step in to create the first prototype of my work in the spirit of MiT open source !

As related to my handle, Satoshi Nakamoto means, Sato Shi Naka Moto. The clear vision (wisdom) is in the center (your heart). I used my first, third and last name, 15 characters in an alternation of a caeserian cypher to have 15 letters, to finaly combine them with Japanese words. Finally I used Japanese exit nodes, using tor or sometimes openproxies to hide my IP. Clearly I did respect the Japanese business hours. We learn in Belgium, British English and in school, we did use double space after the dots in typewriting work, so may this explain some questions.

Bitcoin and Blockchain is for the public. It is decentralized. It is designed to live on it's own, without the possibility to manipulate, control or divert the system to people who do have greed, power and ego boost in their minds.

Those who know me, do know, I clearly am open source minded. As I defend higher ethics, like WE the people, WE as community.

So do not have fear. Dr Craig Wright is only a wannabee and another 'faketoshi'.

All the Best

Satoshin"

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To clarify (again), the above post is not written by me.

Is this guy Satoshin? Who knows?

Certainly does sound a lot more like the real 'Satoshi' who was present on this very forum ...

8)  :D

TL;DR
"Craig Wright is not Satoshi because he didn't provide any proof. I [the author OP is quoting] claim to be satoshi but I also don't provide any proof".

so my question is why did you think it is even worth the time to read or post here?!! not to mention that we don't really need another CSW topic feeding this attention whore.

Well one thing is only clear,Craig Wright is not the real satoshi nakamoto as he claims.Written in that he has a huge history of lies yes it is true .So more likely he is just pretending to be its all clear he doesnt know a single thing about how bitcoin is made and the proofs we need to prove he is indeed nakamoto he cant even present it like what they say the private key of genesis block and many more.Im pretty sure satoshi is present on this forum and member of the main developer team with theymos here

Correct indeed, although why 'shoot the messenger' ?!?

- https://youtu.be/VoOG7LEyUJ0 *Shrugs*

Maybe just another clown that claims to be Satoshi?
OP stated it clearly that Craig isn't the real Satoshi and made his point but could he prove it?
As long as the OP couldn't give any solid proof he is just lile Craig that is seeking attention and giving us an entertainment by making a fool out of theirselves.

He doesn't sound like satoshi to me. Too many mistakes in his writing..

"Because he can not sign through the genesis, neither he has the PGP key 0x5EC948A1. People seems to forget some important issues in regards my identity. And trust me, when the time is right, I digitally sign and come forward. So may this be a warning to all wanna bees. Bitcoin, blockchain is partly based on the asymmetric key mechanism, that is why I have PGP keys. The Bitcoin Foundation was very well aware of that as my public key was shared and signed by other core developers of Bitcoin. Until some people did feel the need to try to impersonate me, steal my identity, just because some professor did suggest to provide a noble price for my invention."
https://www.quora.com/profile/Satoshi-Nakamoto-31

Nah..

Everybody knows Craig Wright is a clown. Those who had been long in crypto knows a lot of people claiming to be satoshi, but Craig is really persistent even after a lot of failed attempt to provide a proof,he even forged some documents to prove his claim.

He's just an attention seeker who deserves to be ignored.
We all know that he isn't the real Satoshi so I wonder why does he keep on stealing Satoshi's identity.
He's just making dramas to gain attention and to be in the mainstream.
The real Satoshi is keeping his reputation and identity in silence and Craig is just taking advantage of that.

That is interesting.
Other people claim that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto and that person was different than the other people we knew before.
That will make curiosity in public, and I guess he will receive so many questions from many people after this ;D
I am curious who is he and why he shows to us today and not in the few years before or in the first time he releases bitcoin to the public.
Well, I guess he has his own reason to do that.

Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto. I have read several threads on this including the US government's refusal to recognize him either as Satoshi. The man may have been among the early adopters of Bitcoin, but I doubt if he is the founder. He just wants cheap popularity.

Come on guys why you people are still talking about "Craig Wright". We already know that he is not the real Satoshi Nakamoto. And What's the point of trying to prove it. Even if he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto there is nothing he can do to improve or stop Bitcoin network. There already thousands of altcoins in the network right now. Even if Craig Wright is the Satoshi he can not affect the network.

I think it's funny that he does a good job arguing why C.W. is not Satoshi. Then outlines an equally merit-less argument that he is.  :D

I am surprised, why are the parties who claim that they are Satoshi now. Why isn't Satoshi declared himself in the past and made himself open to the general public?
And true to all who are here, they have no convincing evidence that he is Satoshi. Maybe someday there will also be other acknowledgments from various parties or people again. So it seems that now this has become a hot trend. It even often becomes hot news in the crypto world.
Personally, I will find it very difficult to believe these claims.

There’s one thing that you forgot to mention in this thread.

Craig “The Clown” Wright  cannot even use the Saroshi Nakamoto account here in Bitcointalk to prove he’s authenticity..

From that simple matter we are perfectly sure that he was just lying and 10 of his apostles

Let's be clear. Nobody knows who Satoshi Nakamoto is, or if it is even a single person.  There is one thing that anyone claiming to be Satoshi has to prove however, and that is that he knew and communicated with Hal Finney *BEFORE* Bitcoin. And Craig Wright never met Hal, therefore he is NOT Satoshi. Q.E.D.

Now, why do we know this?  The key is not what is in the initial exchanges between Satoshi and Hal Finney. The key is what is *NOT* in the initial exchanges. Any engineer, even one Aspergers, asks personal questions when they come across another talented engineer. Maybe not the first time if they just answer a question, but in a project as big as Bitcoin it will come up.  Just general background things so they can size up who they are talking to and how seriously they should take this person. E.g. am I talking with a PhD student or a smart 16 year old kid? None of this normal personal banter is ever exchanged between Satoshi and Hal. And they had many chances to do it during the course of their email exchanges. There is only 1 plausible explanation for this, and that is whoever Satoshi was, Hal Finney already knew him.  Read the emails for yourself.

Hal knew Satoshi. And he elected to keep his identity a secret to his death. So unless Craig Wright can prove he had some kind of a relationship with Hal, he is not Satoshi. However, the fact that someone named Satoshi Nakamoto lived only a short distance away from Hal Finney leads me to guess that Hal was actually the individual who suggested the Satoshi Nakamoto pen name. Think about how that could have gone. This is entirely conjecture, but I would bet on it being close to the truth:

Hal is sitting in a group with the other like minded people who are strategizing about how to keep Bitcoin anonymous in case the FBI comes looking. One of them says, "we need a pseudonym, something that sounds really foreign."  "How about "Satoshi Nakamoto?", Hal pipes up.  Where did Hal get that name? It could have been intentional because he knew the guy, or it could have just been subconscious. Maybe he accidentally received Satoshi's mail one day. Or perhaps he stood behind him at the grocery store and caught the name on his credit card. Or maybe he just saw it on a voter registration list. There could be dozens of ways he came across his name.  Of course, it is also possible that Hal was not the guy who suggested the name, but the fact that he lived so close to someone with that name suggests that there might be a connection.

In any case, that is secondary. Hal was involved in the development of Bitcoin. Hal both knew and respected whoever Satoshi was. Craig Wright simply does not fit the profile.

I dont think it matters that who Satoshi Nakamoto is. Even if he is real Satoshi Nakamoto, what benefit he can extract from BTC or from its blockchain, i guess nothing. So we shouldnt worry whether Craig is Satoshi or not.

Craig Wright’s Bitcoin (BTC) Copyright Claims Received ‘Special Handling’ With Crypto Court Cases Underway
 (https://dailyhodl.com/2019/05/24/craig-wrights-bitcoin-btc-copyright-claims-received-special-handling-with-crypto-court-cases-underway/)

Who knows? For all we know, Satoshi Nakamoto is a computer programmer somewhere in Iceland protected from the scrutiny of the government. Or he could be an alien, brought here from a different universe, to save us from the clutches of Fiat banking.

So do he, they are just the same clown trying to be Satoshi. If you have the private key on the genesis block just sign that one and make it public then we're done. And one more thing if you want to make an announcement you can use the forum as you're the sole owner of this and fairly that's formality if you will come back from the casket you're lying with, never seen any light 8+ years ago.

why do we still entertain this fame whore? the only reason why he is so eager to prove that he is satoshi nakamoto is
to get more $$. the dude is a greedy bastard that needs to be forgotten!!!

not a chance hes seems so ego driven its not even funny, compare to everything we know about satoshi he seems the be the complete opposite and thinking from a no ego perspective about the greater good. so its no chance hes the real satoshi hes just a fraud trying to get some attention. nothing new to see here.

Don't quote walls of text. We can all click on the first page and read it. This thread is getting scrolly! :-\

I don't see why we should keep discussing Craig's false claims. I'm sure he is not Satoshi. He's a narcissistic lunatic and nothing more. If Satoshi is dead he's rolling in his grave when an asshole like that is pretending to be him. The real Satoshi left us enough evidence to at least be able to prove if someone is not him.

His confession is fake.  I agreed with Vitalik by saying that CW statement has many technical errors and he could not prove his validity. 
I also agree with Charlie Lee's statement.  he said that he was a fake satoshi and his conversation was illogical.

haha, it is so funny how this person is using this "opportunity" to gain some popularity. basically he saw how CSW was scamming people and how the topic is a hot one for discussion so he jumped on board. he starts by stating the obvious and makes good arguments about how CSW is a scammer and lying to everyone, then he uses the same lies to make the same claims himself...

To be honest, I have been tired reading anything to do with this man. It seems to me that the more we talk about him the more he is satisfied because he is an attention getter and he is even laughing to the bank while we are laughing at him. In the end, we don't want to make Craig Wright to be the real winner with this saga so maybe here in the forum we should stop talking about him and his whereabouts. Just a suggestion, anyway.

TL;DR

I didn't read your post because in the title itself, I can generate my answer from it. He is claiming it for a long time but he is not satoshi. He is just a stupid crypto investor that is manipulating different kinds of coins. He can say anytime that he is satoshi. I can say too that I'm satoshi and even our neighbor can say it too but in the end, nobody will believe :).

Despite his technological knowledge and involvement in the cryptocurrency, I don't think that Craig S Wright is the real Satoshi. Time and again, he has proven himself to be a greedy individual who doesn't care about the global adoption and acceptability of the cryptocurrency. But it is quite possible that he has something to do with the original Satoshi. There is a chance that he knows the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.