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Title: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: 64dimensions on May 26, 2019, 07:33:20 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-FTW3-Gaming-11GB-GDDR5X-Graphics-Card-With-Warranty/392302664373?hash=item5b570f9ab5:g:gzsAAOSw569c6Oe-

1) 1080ti FTW EVGA card (manufacturers refurb'ed, with warranty) for $80. (???)

2) Seller has no ebay history in the last year.

3) No picture of the actual card.

4) Five available.


I have to concede that ROI is roughly 6 months.


(Not even a remote connection with me)




Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: P00P135 on May 26, 2019, 08:04:45 PM
Obvious scam is obvious.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: MATHReX on May 26, 2019, 09:00:25 PM
Definite Scam! but how will it work though?
eBay has buyer protection, right?
Even if you didn't receive the order, you can just register a complain and get your money back.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: stzcze on May 26, 2019, 10:11:02 PM
It's already deleted, a clear scam


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: P00P135 on May 26, 2019, 10:57:13 PM
Definite Scam! but how will it work though?
eBay has buyer protection, right?
Even if you didn't receive the order, you can just register a complain and get your money back.

Usually hacked paypal/ebay accounts.  Once you Buy it now they get the funds and then spend it on digital goods or some other easy way to launder.  So ebay/paypal eats the loss while you sit for a week with your thumb in your butt waiting for your funds to be returned.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: philipma1957 on May 26, 2019, 11:06:50 PM
Definite Scam! but how will it work though?
eBay has buyer protection, right?
Even if you didn't receive the order, you can just register a complain and get your money back.

Usually hacked paypal/ebay accounts.  Once you Buy it now they get the funds and then spend it on digital goods or some other easy way to launder.  So ebay/paypal eats the loss while you sit for a week with your thumb in your butt waiting for your funds to be returned.

This is how they do it.

He was stupid the better scammers list at 10 to 15 % lower then the lowest buy it now.

They list 3. Sell one to another account they control.

Give a good feedback for it. Say “ fast shipping good gear.”

Then sell two to normal buyers.  Then buy a gift card and use it fast to buy tools at Home Depot or something else.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: 64dimensions on May 27, 2019, 05:31:28 AM
I have to confess, I suspected that the cards may have been stolen.

Found it hard to believe that someone would nuke themselves on ebay.  ;D (The seller had been on ebay since around the middle of 2016)

I've also never seen an EVGA 1080ti FTW card for sale that has been "manufacturer refurb'ed".

Finally, Durango is one of the more well off parts of Colorado.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: MATHReX on May 27, 2019, 06:03:28 AM
Usually hacked paypal/ebay accounts.  Once you Buy it now they get the funds and then spend it on digital goods or some other easy way to launder.  So ebay/paypal eats the loss while you sit for a week with your thumb in your butt waiting for your funds to be returned.

This is how they do it.

He was stupid the better scammers list at 10 to 15 % lower then the lowest buy it now.

They list 3. Sell one to another account they control.

Give a good feedback for it. Say “ fast shipping good gear.”

Then sell two to normal buyers.  Then buy a gift card and use it fast to buy tools at Home Depot or something else.

Oh, Okay. Actually, in my country, eBay used to hold the money that they receive from the buyer as an escrow service and once the buyer receives the item that they ordered, then after a day or two, they used to transfer the amount to the seller. So, any type of scams could be easily avoided as the money was still in possession of the eBay and they would refund it pretty quickly.

Anyway, I have always cautioned people online to not use PayPal to buy cryptos as the seller can easily register a claim and the buyer can get scammed.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: adaseb on May 27, 2019, 07:38:09 AM
Definite Scam! but how will it work though?
eBay has buyer protection, right?
Even if you didn't receive the order, you can just register a complain and get your money back.

Usually hacked paypal/ebay accounts.  Once you Buy it now they get the funds and then spend it on digital goods or some other easy way to launder.  So ebay/paypal eats the loss while you sit for a week with your thumb in your butt waiting for your funds to be returned.

This is how they do it.

He was stupid the better scammers list at 10 to 15 % lower then the lowest buy it now.

They list 3. Sell one to another account they control.

Give a good feedback for it. Say “ fast shipping good gear.”

Then sell two to normal buyers.  Then buy a gift card and use it fast to buy tools at Home Depot or something else.

Who eats the loss exactly in this scenario? Is it Paypal/eBay or is it the individual selling the Home Depot gift card?

I just assumed that Paypal wouldn't want to take the loss so they just cancel the payment sent to the individual who sold the Home Depot gift card to the thief.

Been a while since I've used eBay actually. Pretty much just buy stuff off Aliexpress/Amazon and usually just sell stuff locally on Kijiji. From all those negative feedbacks, paypal chargebacks, etc, I've moved on.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: philipma1957 on May 27, 2019, 12:34:20 PM
Definite Scam! but how will it work though?
eBay has buyer protection, right?
Even if you didn't receive the order, you can just register a complain and get your money back.

Usually hacked paypal/ebay accounts.  Once you Buy it now they get the funds and then spend it on digital goods or some other easy way to launder.  So ebay/paypal eats the loss while you sit for a week with your thumb in your butt waiting for your funds to be returned.

This is how they do it.

He was stupid the better scammers list at 10 to 15 % lower then the lowest buy it now.

They list 3. Sell one to another account they control.

Give a good feedback for it. Say “ fast shipping good gear.”

Then sell two to normal buyers.  Then buy a gift card and use it fast to buy tools at Home Depot or something else.

Who eats the loss exactly in this scenario? Is it Paypal/eBay or is it the individual selling the Home Depot gift card?

I just assumed that Paypal wouldn't want to take the loss so they just cancel the payment sent to the individual who sold the Home Depot gift card to the thief.

Been a while since I've used eBay actually. Pretty much just buy stuff off Aliexpress/Amazon and usually just sell stuff locally on Kijiji. From all those negative feedbacks, paypal chargebacks, etc, I've moved on.

complex answer  can be simply reduced to case by case it varies.
I have done lots of business with ebay and paypal since 2003.

I can say  most of the time ebay/paypal  will side with the established seller or buyer. But you have to jump through endless hoops to get paid.
I don't sell much any more  still buy on ebay.
I try to use  active sellers  with high %  good.  Plus  50 or more sales in last year.

NOT too good to be true are   SCAMS  BUT MOST ARE.

Like 80 dollar 1080ti's ;D

and EVGA sells refubished 1080ti's


https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=8

https://www.evga.com/products/ProductList.aspx?type=8&family=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1080+Ti


scroll down  the lists above there are multiple ones for sale


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: big_daddy on May 27, 2019, 12:42:35 PM
[...]

Like 80 dollar 1080ti's ;D

and EVGA sells refubished 1080ti's


https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=8

https://www.evga.com/products/ProductList.aspx?type=8&family=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1080+Ti


scroll down  the lists above there are multiple ones for sale

but I'm seeing the cheaper for $399.99, there is no 1080 card for $80
are they sold  out or am I on the wrong site?


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: iv4n on May 27, 2019, 05:16:52 PM
[...]

Like 80 dollar 1080ti's ;D

and EVGA sells refubished 1080ti's


https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=8

https://www.evga.com/products/ProductList.aspx?type=8&family=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1080+Ti


scroll down  the lists above there are multiple ones for sale

but I'm seeing the cheaper for $399.99, there is no 1080 card for $80
are they sold  out or am I on the wrong site?

Look few comments above, it`s already removed from ebay. It`s how scammers operate, everywhere, they scam few people before someone catch them and remove them from the site. I would think twice before I buy some card from unverified seller anywhere, not just on ebay. People be safe, this scammers wont stop there, they will make new accounts and they will try again.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: leowonderful on May 27, 2019, 06:33:34 PM
There's also another form of scammy listing going around on eBay at the moment that involves a seller asking for payment in cryptocurrency in exchange for the item being sold. The seller rejects your payment if you try to pay with any of the normal reversible methods of payment that are accepted on eBay, and unfortunately it seems there's people falling for these types of scams because they happen to pop up every now and then. Seems like eBay's getting better at removing this newer form of scamming, but some still get through every now and then.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: starkovblue on May 27, 2019, 07:23:20 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Ti-FTW3-Gaming-11GB-GDDR5X-Graphics-Card-With-Warranty/392302664373?hash=item5b570f9ab5:g:gzsAAOSw569c6Oe-

1) 1080ti FTW EVGA card (manufacturers refurb'ed, with warranty) for $80. (???)

2) Seller has no ebay history in the last year.

3) No picture of the actual card.

4) Five available.


I have to concede that ROI is roughly 6 months.


(Not even a remote connection with me)




It's almost certainly a hoax. Or restored so that after receipt and testing, it will break. Better to take from people you can trust.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: adaseb on May 28, 2019, 07:20:00 AM
There's also another form of scammy listing going around on eBay at the moment that involves a seller asking for payment in cryptocurrency in exchange for the item being sold. The seller rejects your payment if you try to pay with any of the normal reversible methods of payment that are accepted on eBay, and unfortunately it seems there's people falling for these types of scams because they happen to pop up every now and then. Seems like eBay's getting better at removing this newer form of scamming, but some still get through every now and then.

I am still surprised that there are people still who do this. In the past I've bought a few crypto related items such as bitcoin miners, or GPUs, or Risers and I remember that there was 1 individual who contacted me right after I won the auction and posted his BTC address and demanded payment in crypto.

I told him I will only pay by Paypal and he basically re-listed the auction all over again, and didn't state anywhere in the auction that crypto is the only method of payment. I reported the individual but eBay actually did nothing.

He said that he only accepts crypto because of chargebacks and high level of fraud that goes on with selling Bitcoin miners during a price boom. He had some story about selling a miner and getting a chargeback 6 months later or being sent the ASIC back when the difficulty has sky-rocketed. I understand his reasons but still shady way to sell your items.


Title: Re: Interesting ebay EVGA 1080ti FTW listing
Post by: suprnurd on June 09, 2019, 05:45:41 PM
Beware of scam cards on eBay that have flashed BIOS to make them appear as one card with a certain amount of memory whereas they are actually a different card (usually lower-end with lesser memory).

If the deal is too good to be true then it usually is.