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Title: Triangle breakout
Post by: exstasie on May 26, 2019, 07:59:28 PM
https://i.imgur.com/7dT34KL.png

Looks like we've started the next wave up. We should have a nice uptrend going for the next week or two. There's still time to jump on board. I think this will go to the $10K area, possibly further.

Where do you think this will top out? I'm curious to see what altcoin/BTC pairs do at that point. If BTC starts flowing into alts rather than fiat, it bodes well for a sustained bull market.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: timerland on May 26, 2019, 09:37:52 PM
I think it is inevitable that a bull market comes sooner or later, if this can't already be classified as such.

The sentiment within the market has already shifted to quite bullish compared to what we saw at the depths of the bear market just a few months ago, which is a sign that mainstream investors are going to be coming into the market based on fomo alone.

It's difficult to say when this bull market will top out exactly, though I think it should be fairly easy for BTC to rally above its previous ATH as a matter of time, given all the new institutional interest within the market this time round, as well as the increased investor base from the '17 market. Though, I'm still doubtful that it'll transpire to anything as large as the hundred-fold growth we saw back then, since total market cap is already quite high.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: 1Referee on May 26, 2019, 10:03:23 PM
I'm happy that I stopped shorting and got rid of my open short that would otherwise get liquidated.

My mid term target is that the market will top out just under the $10,000 level, correct to $6000, then consolidate, then later attempt to break that $10,000 level again.

As for the altcoins, it has been a horrible year so far in terms of BTC value. XRP lost 50% of its BTC value, and so are there more coins with similar losses. I expect this to continue until Bitcoin shows signs of weakness, and that may be when altcoins will start to regain in BTC terms. In fiat terms most of the altcoins did okay to well, but Bitcoin as big dog and hard to move crypto has been one of the best performers so far, which is quite nice for a difference.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: Adriano2010 on May 26, 2019, 11:01:18 PM
I also think the price will stay under 10k $ for some time and 10k$ will have only on June, but until then we can still get some bitcoin or if we already have to hold, for altcoins is still a problem as most of them not grow.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: STT on May 27, 2019, 12:33:03 AM
I'm thinking very similar, I hate to say it because I didnt bet upwards but to break upwards like this appears bullish to me.   I would expect the next week to be positive based on this.

https://i.imgur.com/eR6EXNq.png

However on a daily bar if it can close back below 8200 then its a failed breakout and that is bearish.   Not thinking it will do that but that would be exception to the rule I guess


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: Dart18 on May 27, 2019, 01:50:28 AM
I also think the price will stay under 10k $ for some time and 10k$ will have only on June, but until then we can still get some bitcoin or if we already have to hold, for altcoins is still a problem as most of them not grow.

Yeah and it looks like we will have to wait for bitcoin to be in bearish trend again or we could say correction and then altcoins might be pulling up for correction too.
But with bitcoin growing large, it seems like altcoins are still having a difficult time to chase it. Before it was like that way and I am expecting that by now too. Yet, there are still no traces that it will happen.
Got so much altcoins in my portfolio that are waiting to be in good value.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: ajqjjj on May 27, 2019, 02:00:14 AM
I also think the price will stay under 10k $ for some time and 10k$ will have only on June, but until then we can still get some bitcoin or if we already have to hold, for altcoins is still a problem as most of them not grow.
Bitcoin will going to moon so all the predictions are never possible at anytime. The current situation market is growing well so all the traders are never watching these kind of charts and expectations. May be next week also it will reach 10k USD so before that we can buy more Bitcoin in this time. But those are buying 24 hours before they are all enjoy in current traffic.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: btc_angela on May 27, 2019, 03:47:02 AM
I also think the price will stay under 10k $ for some time and 10k$ will have only on June, but until then we can still get some bitcoin or if we already have to hold, for altcoins is still a problem as most of them not grow.
Bitcoin will going to moon so all the predictions are never possible at anytime. The current situation market is growing well so all the traders are never watching these kind of charts and expectations. May be next week also it will reach 10k USD so before that we can buy more Bitcoin in this time. But those are buying 24 hours before they are all enjoy in current traffic.

Lol, we are not talking about going to the moon here, We are all speculating that a break out run to $10k would happen in the next days or so. It is still still early to say 'mooning'. Short term goal should to at the $10k, unless more FOMO sets in again, it could be huge to see the price grows even more at the end of the month.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: pooya87 on May 27, 2019, 04:31:07 AM
although you'll never know with bitcoin but i don't think we can break $10k this soon, it could probably take a while with at least a couple of tries and fails to break it and go to $11k all of a sudden.

up to this point was the result of the "reverse bubble" burst in my opinion. as i said before, price was in an unstable and artificial low and now it is "bursting" in reverse to go back to the normal stage. with $8k we are just back to where we should have been in January-February if the manipulation hadn't happen.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: CryptoBry on May 27, 2019, 06:16:04 AM

Looks like we've started the next wave up. We should have a nice uptrend going for the next week or two. There's still time to jump on board. I think this will go to the $10K area, possibly further. Where do you think this will top out? I'm curious to see what altcoin/BTC pairs do at that point. If BTC starts flowing into alts rather than fiat, it bodes well for a sustained bull market.

Congratulations! I think you made the correct projection as just one day after...bitcoin is now moving towards the $9,000 zone which can mean that maybe days from now if not a week we can see bitcoin already approaching the $10,000 barrier. There is a strong market sentiment that bitcoin is all ready for the next level and I am sure that at this time there are many institutional fund managers eagerly looking how they can enter the bitcoin bandwagon and make some money too.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: pushups44 on May 27, 2019, 06:25:23 AM
https://i.imgur.com/7dT34KL.png

Looks like we've started the next wave up. We should have a nice uptrend going for the next week or two. There's still time to jump on board. I think this will go to the $10K area, possibly further.

Where do you think this will top out? I'm curious to see what altcoin/BTC pairs do at that point. If BTC starts flowing into alts rather than fiat, it bodes well for a sustained bull market.

That's a solid observation - I saw the $8,300 as the major barrier, and we sliced through it. How high we go from here will depend on previous areas of support or resistance between $9,000 and $10,000. It looks like in May 2018 the $9,900 level was resistance or a peak from which the price continued to slide.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: arpon11 on May 27, 2019, 07:48:58 AM
This week and next week are two weeks to really watch over as I am suspecting bitcoin to break another strong resistance leve at $9050 area. I think the market is going to be bullish until something fundamental happen that might push bitcoin down but it will resume the uptrend again and this uptrend may last until the end of next year. Like op has said "it is not too late to join the ship" .


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: Red-Apple on May 27, 2019, 10:59:22 AM
This week and next week are two weeks to really watch over as I am suspecting bitcoin to break another strong resistance leve at $9050 area. I think the market is going to be bullish until something fundamental happen that might push bitcoin down but it will resume the uptrend again and this uptrend may last until the end of next year. Like op has said "it is not too late to join the ship" .

i don't think we can see anything that can push price down before we see another bubble even a small one that pops. which probably can happen close to the halving. other than that the only drops that i expect seeing are the regular corrections that have to happen to keep the market healthy.
but i agree that this following weeks are the important ones, if we keep this momentum we can see $10k be broken too.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: davis196 on May 27, 2019, 11:23:51 AM
I'm curious to see what altcoin/BTC pairs do at that point. If BTC starts flowing into alts rather than fiat, it bodes well for a sustained bull market.

There's always time to jump on the bitcoin board,even if the price crashes back to 4-5K. ;D
I count care less about altcoin prices right now,but the high amount of greed will move many traders out of bitcoin into the altcoin markets,looking for some insane profit margins.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: freedomgo on May 27, 2019, 12:11:31 PM
$10K is my next goal now, and I think sooner we will be at that level.
I have already jump shit, thanks for the suggestion but I have been accumulating when bitcoin is still at sub $3000.
For new in the market, it's a great opportunity to have a short ride, as this year will probably and explosive year for crypto.

We have a great day today, tomorrow, I'm expecting great pump when I wake up, I'm just to positive at the moment
as the price that I did not expect to come early, just prove me wrong... More to come, I believe bull run have already penetrated the market.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: buwaytress on May 27, 2019, 12:22:02 PM
Looks really like it, doesn't it?

I have said my worry a couple of posts ago and it still stands, that all these serious waves of growth have not had proper time for consolidations, but I suppose nothing but the most recent resistance and support matters at this kind of ravenous movement.

Altcoins are not looking too great at the moment against btc, and don't laugh but doge btc price is one of my markers. Currently at 35 and dropping steadily since April, it will slide til sub 20s and that's for me the floor for their kind.

2019 is turning out to be pretty fun after all. Lots of people waiting to be proven right and wrong.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: BitHodler on May 27, 2019, 02:00:47 PM
I expected a break to the downside, but had a price target of around $9500 in mind as peak in case of a break to the upside. Good for my hodl stack, a little less for my speculative stack, but it's all good since you can't be right all the time.

I only use 5% of my total hodl stack for speculative purposes so the 'damage' is negligible, and the price can always fall back below the points I sold so nothing is lost yet.

I'm honestly not sure what to expect anymore. $8000 formed way more of a barrier than the ~$6000 level did, and that while it would make sense to have it be one of the toughest levels to break through.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: Yutikas_11920 on May 27, 2019, 02:18:08 PM
This week and next week are two weeks to really watch over as I am suspecting bitcoin to break another strong resistance leve at $9050 area. I think the market is going to be bullish until something fundamental happen that might push bitcoin down but it will resume the uptrend again and this uptrend may last until the end of next year. Like op has said "it is not too late to join the ship" .
from the graphic indicator that looks like the price of bitcoin has the potential to be very expensive but it will not happen if there is nothing to support and no one buys, but the current price is too expensive so you should be careful when you want to buy.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: samcrypto on May 27, 2019, 02:40:18 PM
This week and next week are two weeks to really watch over as I am suspecting bitcoin to break another strong resistance leve at $9050 area. I think the market is going to be bullish until something fundamental happen that might push bitcoin down but it will resume the uptrend again and this uptrend may last until the end of next year. Like op has said "it is not too late to join the ship" .
This a good breakout, we are aiming for an expensive price again and yes in the first week of June it can go beyond the peak of this month. Keep buying, don’t wait for the next wave because it will be at a higher price. We should not too focus on bitcoin, altcoins are doing well also make this as your good option, bitcoin and altcoins will bounce back and enter the uptrend.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: leowonderful on May 27, 2019, 06:49:17 PM
I opened a 10x leveraged long at around $8070 and I plan on keeping it open until the mid $9ks when I plan on closing the position fully. Took a bit of profit near $8800 yesterday, I feel like I could've done better but it's still a signfiicant gain in the end. Feels like this will go sideways for a bit and break up or just break up in the next hours or days. We had a little pump after Bitmex funding happened today (0.3%, 0.375% is the maximum funding rate in an 8 hour period for XBTUSD) and we've fallen to right where we were before that funding pump, though it seems this is actively getting bought up. Looks good for the bulls so far.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: exstasie on May 27, 2019, 06:56:45 PM
I opened a 10x leveraged long at around $8070 and I plan on keeping it open until the mid $9ks when I plan on closing the position fully. Took a bit of profit near $8800 yesterday, I feel like I could've done better but it's still a signfiicant gain in the end. Feels like this will go sideways for a bit and break up or just break up in the new hours or days. We had a little pump after Bitmex funding happened today (0.3%, 0.375% is the maximum funding rate in an 8 hour period for XBTUSD) and we've fallen to right where we were before that funding pump, though it seems this is actively getting bought up. Looks good for the bulls so far.

Nicely done. I managed to get some longs in around $8,100-$8,200. The FOMO was really fast. I kept missing with my limit orders and had to cancel and market buy a couple times. I already closed about 30% of it into this morning's spike, in case of a failure. The rest I'm hoping to ride until the $10K area. Otherwise I'll let it get stopped out.

This feels like the late stages of a rally. Shorts aren't quite done squeezing yet but this is getting dangerous to hold longs for too long. We might plow through $10K but wherever it finally tops, there's a deep painful crash coming afterwards. I think patient bulls may have a chance to rebuy in the $6,000s again.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: target on May 27, 2019, 06:59:57 PM

Those who still got their coins and hold the tokens they have since the time of bear market, will have more patience to hold and if this bulls will continue till the year end it will be logical if they still will hold. Price of BTC could beat the 20KUSD, we are still in the Q2 of the year. More breakouts will happen soon. When do you think the bears will take over after this?


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: Altero on May 27, 2019, 11:38:30 PM

Those who still got their coins and hold the tokens they have since the time of bear market, will have more patience to hold and if this bulls will continue till the year end it will be logical if they still will hold. Price of BTC could beat the 20KUSD, we are still in the Q2 of the year. More breakouts will happen soon. When do you think the bears will take over after this?
It probably another big year in crypto, this will the reward for our outstanding  support into the market even we struggle hard for a very long dip. We did it and it's time to see another bull run that will satisfy us individually but I'm not too optimistic that be thinking of more than $20k this year. We only just hope that it will be no longer to drop hard just like it happen last year.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: pooya87 on May 28, 2019, 03:55:14 AM
Those who still got their coins and hold the tokens they have since the time of bear market, will have more patience to hold and if this bulls will continue till the year end it will be logical if they still will hold.

this is the "bitcoin" bull run and only "bitcoin" price is rising not tokens! in fact most of these tokens that people are bag holding are not going to even exist in a year from now let alone give any profit to their bag holders.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: STT on May 28, 2019, 05:59:33 AM
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This feels like the late stages of a rally. Shorts aren't quite done squeezing yet but this is getting dangerous to hold longs for too long.

People have felt similarly to that all along since Feb at least.     Bitcoin is far harder to judge then many things I think, I'm wary of this leveraged usage and wonder if they makes it weaker on any test.   So far its just kept bubbling up, it went through the 6k area far too easily seems like considering how strongly that held as support for alot of 2018

Cutting everything like a hot knife through butter seems like, hard to gauge whats driving it especially and it may not be one thing.   The largest thing for me is dollar must stay weaker, its effectively negative interest rate


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: Kevin77 on May 28, 2019, 07:14:49 AM
The sad part is we are not too late but we are not too early neither. I have luckily kept all my bitcoins but I have failed to purchase more earlier as well so I could have had a lot more bitcoins too.

It is still looking early and we may top out at 20+ thousand dollars because I know that psychologically we have seen 20 thousand dollars before and anything until that point is "we have been here before" and that is why it is easier and quite possible but anything above 20 thousand dollars is unseen in bitcoin world so its going to be the first time we reach those levels and will be harder.

I don't know when it will happen or how it will happen but until 20 thousand dollars it will be easier than above 20 thousand dollars I am sure about that part of it.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: exstasie on May 28, 2019, 07:19:14 PM
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This feels like the late stages of a rally. Shorts aren't quite done squeezing yet but this is getting dangerous to hold longs for too long.

People have felt similarly to that all along since Feb at least.

Back in February we were only trading 15-30% above the ultimate lows. We've risen nearly 190% from the bottom now. Big difference! The sentiment between then and now is also tangibly different.

Peter Brandt calls this the "FOMO phase" of the rally (https://twitter.com/PeterLBrandt/status/1132816334868373504). We'll eventually reach a point where most sellers/shorters will have capitulated + bought back. That's when a big correction will come. I believe we're in a bull market but every bull market has deep corrections.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 28, 2019, 11:07:48 PM
There is also some variance in the volume, I think the price is rising without much volume, this means that it can continue to rise without much effort, which makes a correction a bit difficult ..... as tensorcharts has come a lot of volume shopping, it's as if they buy without importing the price.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: buwaytress on May 29, 2019, 10:09:30 AM
The sad part is we are not too late but we are not too early neither. I have luckily kept all my bitcoins but I have failed to purchase more earlier as well so I could have had a lot more bitcoins too.

It is still looking early and we may top out at 20+ thousand dollars because I know that psychologically we have seen 20 thousand dollars before and anything until that point is "we have been here before" and that is why it is easier and quite possible but anything above 20 thousand dollars is unseen in bitcoin world so its going to be the first time we reach those levels and will be harder.

I don't know when it will happen or how it will happen but until 20 thousand dollars it will be easier than above 20 thousand dollars I am sure about that part of it.

I first properly got into Bitcoin in 2016, after hearing about it and even asked to check it out by a friend in 2013. The backstory to that was a really bad experience with digital currency more than a decade earlier, where I lost a business and ended up in debt, long story short, it was bad timing regulatory wise for digital currency.

I do regret that the bad experience made me dismiss Bitcoin as just another one doomed to fail when Uncle Sam wakes up, regret that it didn't occur to me it was something completely different until I finally sat down to read about it and get a wallet back in early 2016. Even that was timing, because I was in bed after a long illness in Dec 2015 and with nothing to do but read online.

Imagine that by the time 2017 arrived I had barely scraped enough Bitcoin, still had no idea the bullrun was about to begin, but every few weeks after for the next year, every satoshi I managed to get was worth that much more.

Even since last winter and when we ploughed 3k I wished I had the chance to get more and here we are at 8.5k.

Remember, it doesn't matter in the end game.


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: STT on May 30, 2019, 04:26:20 PM
We'll eventually reach a point where most sellers/shorters will have capitulated + bought back.

Its possible to track % shorts or at least contrast the order book from now to then.    So we should be aware at some level when people are being too relaxed on the potential for downside movement.
When I look at a longer term chart on weekly bars I do see this price roughly as being a major turning point, an area where bars closed out.   8500 was the top of prices about a year ago july 2018 and also top of the initial pin roughly in the Feb sell and recovery back up so I see some significance to this area.     I also thought that about 6500 though and it wasnt enough to stop and think about for long


Title: Re: Triangle breakout
Post by: exstasie on May 30, 2019, 04:45:17 PM
Bit of a nail biter when I woke up this morning! Bulls breaking above $9,000 one minute, and then the next minute, that Bitstamp whale is back dumping hundreds of coins into a thin book.

Someone (probably a major short holder on Bitmex) was obviously trying to paint a breakout failure on the chart. Not the wealthiest whale around because they only sell on Bitstamp (which has the worst liquidity) instead of coordinating dumps.

What an asshole. I hate when people try to paint the chart. I hope bulls absorb the dump and margin call this jerk.