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Nutildah attempted to sell his account in late 2016.
Why didn't you tag him?
Can you share the reason behind this?
I don't think you too have the so called "double standard" here.

TP has previously said he won’t go back years after the fact to tag accounts for this and to my knowledge he hasn’t. AFAIK, he is one person who has been consistent in this regard. 

Your account was registered in February of this year and somehow you've gotten so concerned with forum politics that you're asking why a single account didn't get tagged way back in 2016?  Yeah, I'm sure you're not an alt account of one of the troll posse members.

To answer the question: I have no fucking clue why I didn't tag him back then.  Maybe I didn't notice it.  Maybe I removed the tag, which I tend to do for members who've shown themselves to be trustworthy over time.  Don't remember, and at this point I don't care.  I'm not going to tag anybody in 2019 for an account sale in 2016. 

That's the only response you're going to get from me, so if that satisfies your question (or not), you can now lock the thread.

Or maybe you should go tag him yourself @unibitcoinist, I don't think The Pharmacist signed a contract anywhere that he is supposed to do whatever agenda comes across your mind whenever you want it to be done.

Nutildah won't be tagged solely because slimy hypocrites asked for him to get tagged after he started speaking out against them.

:-*
Sometimes I think you post just for my personal amusement. I know, I know, that's a bit grandiose - your posts have been getting funnier lately, though.
How about they get tagged solely for the reason you've listed in my feedback? EDIT: NOT AN ACTUAL REQUEST! Do I really need to label everything so it's not willfully misinterpreted?


We're asking you for consistency, not revenge, Kitty-Queen. What if I say please? Please.


I haven't been able to find any others. Even some of the members that have left me negative trust and excluded me are including and have left positive trust for people like Nutildah.
I don't care to bring Nutildah down; they sincerely believe that their inability to sell their legendary account with positive feedback makes the act acceptable. I think, that's a weak leg to stand on.


It's so refreshing to be able to take someone at their word.

Theymos has said that negative trust should be reserved for those that you believe are scammers, and my negative feedback is unwarranted for exactly this reason.
You all know that I am not a scammer, and you are taking advantage of a situation to tag me specifically where you have given others a pass for worse offenses.


We're waiting for proof of their "double standard". Where have they contradicted themselves on this?

thanks I am quoting that for future use.

demonstrates clear double standards ... speaking out against them? you mean it nutildah is a supporter of scammers and liars like you. Just like the pharmacist is. If I look up the extortion thread, the shady escrow or many other threads where you are observably being scrutinized for your shady behavior I notice the pharmacist is there protecting you.

It has been speculated lauda purchased the nutildah account then announced it was for sale. We think someone else bought it off nutildah because nutildah was a dark holder and nem original stakeholder (millions of dollars) and then this account was recently begging for 0.02btc loans. Either it was sold or the original owner is the biggest loser on this board.

I notice also that the pharmacist even said he is not smart enough to know if you are actually guilty of wrong doing with the escrow but will stick up for you anyway because he is loyal. This again sticking up for people who could be scammers out of loyalty is shady and not the behavior of a DT.

Same for this nutildah account. They will not red tag their own gang. BUt will make up any excuses they like to avoid doing so.

The entire bunch are corrupt and untrustworthy.

FTFY. I am as consistent as this place can get, and revenge is not something that I shall be participating in.

Feel free to quote it, I've already stated it before CH. If you ask for it out of spite/revenge, then it isn't happening.

FTFY

Implying that I'm asking for revenge, when Nutildah has done nothing to me, and I'm not asking you to do anything to them is painfully idiotic.
I don't know why you've chosen this route to defend your actions, but it's just making you look more silly than you already do.

Can we go back to nicknames? Pajeet Gator and Kitty-Queef 2020.  ;)

LOL this excuse is not one a DT should be giving. I mean obviously an observable liar and scammer like you should not be on DT anyway. However if someone is observed to be scamming or facilitating scammers and someone points it out they must be tagged for the sake of the board. NOt to spite one person who pointed out clearly you are a liar and scammer yourself. What a fucking retard you are lauda. You are meant to be on DT for the sake of the board not to use it for your own personal gain you scum bag.

Also just to add some further insight to this case in the initial post.

Nutildahs case of account selling is the WORST here

He deliberately wants to facilitate scamming by selling it

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134507.msg50719875#msg50719875

In his mind anyone selling their account is knowingly EVIL and wanting to help scammers . Read the above link. He fully intends on being evil and helping scammers for his 0.3btc

This is totally different intent and relationship to scamming than someone buying or selling accounts that are not even imagining scamming.

INTENT is everything with scamming and scammers.

You can cry and scream all you want, but your time here is done and no tag will be served.

You are boring me, dance monkey.

You can abuse the trust-system all you want, but my time here is just getting started.

Side-Note: Refreshing the page to see the little touches you put on your posts is so cute :P
Also, we're getting off-topic. This is about The Pharmacist, Nutildah and the consistency of TP's actions. I'll step out of this, because I only really wanted to voice that TP has been upholding their stated principles.
Unlike most of the laughable muppets; Ms. Piggy, Oscar the Grouch, Big-Bird - The whole crew.

Well that's a bunch of bullshit as you proved in the next breath.


1. Just FYI, it was a Hero account back then. It also had more negative feedback than positive back then, still does.

2. I never said I thought it was acceptable. I said it was a mistake, and I admitted it. Unlike you, I also never tried to hide the fact that it happened.

3. Its also not as bad as engaging in a career as an account seller, or actually having traded accounts in the past. Even attempted murder carries a lesser sentence than murder.

4. If you want to tag me for it on your own then feel free, but then you can no longer claim you have the moral high ground.

I don't know how off-topic this is, but since this thread is about me I'll ask the question.  What is this feuding with bill gator all about?  I can see there's obviously some disagreement about negs being left, but I suspect they would not have been if there weren't more factors involved.  Can anyone give me a tl;dr version of why he got booted from DT1 and got all the tags?  I know he bought the account a while back and got the plagiarism ban reversed, but I'm sure there are threads and posts I've missed where the animosity originated from.

Hopefully we can agree to disagree on opinions of bill gator, because he's never shown any untrustworthy behavior to me and in addition has always conducted himself as a polite gentleman in the few PMs he's sent to me.  So what the hell did he do to deserve this much hatin'?

1. there is no proof it was an attempted sale. it could have been a successful sale.
2. INTENT is FAR MORE IMPORTANT

someone buying an account to be cool and have a legend badge is not anywhere near as worrying as someone who is CONVINCED they are facilitating scammers by selling and decide to go ahead and sell. You were acting in an EVIL way according to your own admission. This is worse than scamming really. You can not get worse than being evil.

Pharmacist sensing that a new rift with another member is going to soon tally up and taking sides with laudas gang over the every building wave of trust abused people here could be a risky move. Pick a side pharmacist because when it is all done there is no swapping last minute.

This thread is about you and Nutildahs account selling vs others account sellers you have tagged. Side tracking to what has bill gator done wrong is not the central point and hardly on topic.

If someone clearly states they willing to facilitate scammers and are by their own words willing to act in an EVIL way at ANY POINT then there is no doubt they are untrustworthy and not supposed to be on DT.

Do you want a box of chocolates as a gesture of good-faith? Nutildah, I could care less about what happens to you or your account. I wish you the best, I hope you are prosperous, happy and healthy - sincerely, but you happen to be one of the relevant, recent and significant cases that give context to what's happening around the forum. Crying about how everyone is against you whenever they bring up your past actions isn't helping your case. What is bullshit though, your words Unless, "was" was intended to literally mean in the past. Barking back at everyone that pings your notification bot is not trying to remove yourself from the drama. Especially when virtually nobody is advocating that anything happen to you.

Every-time I read one of your responses it just screams "unaccountable". You're even sitting here trying to minimize the damage, "It was only a hero, not a legendary", "It had a few untrusted negatives, too!", "Attempted murder carries a lesser sentence" - Really? The actual sentences for Murder and Attempted Murder are virtually the same in the context you're describing. "I was really trying to kill them, but after 42-stabs I got tired, so I stopped and that makes the crime less of a crime". You sound pretty detached.


I didn't realize I was meant to repent my sins to Saint nutildah. My biggest mistake(s) were buying an account to avoid posting/PM delays in 2015, and also not checking for plagiarism; I have admitted that. This is the 3rd time you've said something directly to me that is a blatant lie or unwillingness to articulate reality.

You're clearly the one with a vendetta against me, the way you talk - acting high and mighty as though you're on superior moral standing; statements like "unlike you" "at least I", etc.


What the fuck are you even talking about? I think it's almost time I hit the ignore button for you, because you're making less sense than Lauda talking about consistency.
I can say one thing, but you hear 6-other things. Hey, Nutildah, Buddy - I do not want to tag you, and I do not want you tagged.
I'm not attempting to claim the "moral high ground", in fact that seems to have been your one goal with every post in response to me.

Please stop trying to have these round-about conversations with me. "At least I was unsuccessful" is not a defense of your intent.


Careful, talking like that might get you got!


Sounds like you've got it all, to me.

I volunteered the fact that my account was purchased, because I was banned for an offense I did not commit (plagiarism) and would rather deal with the consequences of my actions than deal with the consequences for the actions of another. Everyone has their own personal reasons and justifications, but it seems like some people distrust accounts buyers entirely (yet, not consistently), some are distrusting of my previous omission that this is a bought account, and some have removed me from their list during the Vod situation. Some (less credible users), don't believe my story at all, even after theymos "verified" it, and have exaggerated it further. There's no big secret, evil thread that exposes my non-existent treacherous past or anything like that -  You've been here pretty much every step of the way.

These Meta/Reputation threads often give the surface-impression that they are over your head, or that more is going on, when in reality they are simple situations that are being spun into a web so complicated that nobody can traverse it.


I swung my balls a little too far in front of the camera.  :-[
"The emperor has no clothes!"

Bill, stop.  Just stop.

You're making an even bigger cry-baby out of yourself than you did in the previous thread about your tags.  You and nutildah are not the same, your situations aren't the same.  The fact that you bring this up as an example of double standards is laughable.

Nutildah realized he was making a mistake after he had offered to sell his account completely out in the open.  You are still trying to justify your actions taken in secrecy.  

You still haven't admitted why you bought the account, and your explanation that the name of your previous one no longer suited you sounds like a pile of steaming horse shit.

You want to know what the real reason is that nutilidah didn't get tagged and you did?  Honesty.

Forgot to create this thread self moderated, I could delete the posts from sig spammer, CH and other as well which seems no point of barking here.

@The Pharmacist
Your point behind nutildah-
You think he has done something good for the community, hence, you are not going to tag him (or probably removed). nutildah's post was from September 2016, you have tagged other people prior to the date nutildah attempted to sell his account.

Now, if someone been tagged prior to this date come and ask why he has to carry the tag even if he didn't attempt to buy/sell account anymore?
What will be your response to that? Well, I know what will be-

But they even didn't do anything bad either, no scam attempt or nothing else. Why still they have to carry your tag?
Not every people have to do so called "charity work" for the forum, if everyone would do, no mod would be required.
I believe you have gotten my point.

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This thread isn't created for any personal vendetta with nutildah or The Pharmacist or any other DT although I still believe that nutildah must be tagged.

I don't know if he deserves "hating" but he's turned into a CH-like troll once his main account (EthanB) was exposed along with inconsistencies in his narrative, so he's gonna be ridiculed for as long as he posts around here. It's unfortunate that we're putting hypertrolls on a high-calorie diet by red-tagging them but there you have it.

You don't think that's disingenuous? I've mostly just been making sad-attempts at creating raffles and auctions, like I have been.


I didn't bring it up.


Explaining and Justifying are different.


Yes, I have. Do you know something I don't?


That's laughable.

And you are who exactly? Somebody who doesn't have a personal vendetta but wants me tagged? Just tag me then, you have just as much ability to do so as anybody. Better yet, do it from your main account.

I haven't excluded nor givin bill gator red trust but what did make me remove him from my trust list is his bad judgement on releasing a personal message when he thought it could help him.

I personally find that behavior very untrustworthy (not to the point I personally feel comfortable tagging him, I don't tag people tbh I don't feel like that is my job here) but to the point I just don't trust his judgement all the time and I won't be supporting him with a "vote" for DT.

As far as TP being consistent, I think that it's pretty clear he is consistent since the start so good on him for that!

Stop blaming people to turn to this person or that person. You do it very often.

Have a red tag which you will feel was injustice for you and when you will see no one is believing you even you are honestly saying everything truth then you will become the next Bill, CH, Thule, mdayonliner, digaran or some other forum member who gave up with the forum eventually. Each of them were loyal to the community but made some mistakes knowingly or unknowingly but because of them not to be a part of the gang or may be did not lick the asses of the gang much, you all never thought about their good sides.

How many good forum members you think losing their interest because of shitty politics in this forum including nullius.

Fact: None of these members were scammers. But if anyone visit their profile and visit the topic they created where feedback rating is visible then they will think these members were scammers.

@DireWolfM14, you are too young to talk about or justify nutilidah and bill or any other very senior member here. Stop taking sides to gain personal benefits.
And you think Bill was not honest enough or he did not show any integrity? How did you all knew about his account buying then? Why did theymos unbanned him then. You think theymos does not have the advantages of accessing some information that were crucial to see which is lie and which is truth more than you all shits who blame people based on the observation and chary picked information?

You know the motivation to tag Bill?
All of these gang members were waiting for a chance to destroy him because Bill stood up against Vod's childish behaviors towards OG. Vod has this kind of history but he is one of the key member/key ass licker of the gang. So the gang came to avenge him.

The Pharmacist: My observation is that he is a kind hearted man and knows exactly what is going on. Sometimes he tries his best to speak up but he controls because he knows it's not gonna bring him much good. So he always stands in between.

I don't want you tagged but I want to point out that you deserve the tag.

In addition, attacking on a member (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5147627.msg51232060#msg51232060) who concern about the forum in reality by people who post because of the sake of posting count also feel them worse. That OP didn't have any financial benefit from the post other than bringing up a spam issue.

If true, I would call him the most stupid person of the forum. But I still think him as a good person although I'm now a bit confused.

Everyone should be held to the same standards and rules.  Once you allow double standards then corruption has already taken over.

The aim should be a transparent fair environment where ALL members are treated equally. Anything less is not acceptable.

Pharmacist is a complicit scammer support. He admitted in public to cryptohunter that he does not know if lauda is guilty of shady escrow dealings or not but will support him anyway out of loyalty.  He is there in the lauda extortion thread protecting him, he will be found kissing laudas ass in most threads that detail observable instances of shady or blatant lying and scamming of lauda.

If you want someone applies transparent and fair rules equally to all members you can strike the pharmacist off of your list.

If ANY account selling is SHOULD be tagged Nutildah MUST be tagged. He is the most untrustworthy of all since he CLAIMS that any account seller is facilitating scams and is EVIL for selling their accounts. Seems to not give one shit about that when he wants his 0.3BTC.
You can't ask for an example of someone LESS trustworthy than that by their OWN admission.

This doesn't make any sense.

Your opinion on anything matters as much as any other 2019 Jr Member account with 3 merits.

This would make sense if you stopped licking ass.

This is the Bitcointalk goonsquad's MO to a T. This is part of why they hate me so much, I am a "broken record" and keep hammering the points no matter how big the clown shoes they wear are as they ride their tiny unicycles around honking horns to distract from it. This is also the same reason they go after people like Bill Gator. The ones with respect and trust they ESPECIALLY have to crush, because some one might believe them.

Well, there you have it. The epitome of mature, rational discussion.

K guys this has been a jolly good time. Have fun knocking your heads against the wall.

Don't bother taking these parting words from theymos into consideration shortly after unleashing the trust system from his control. I know you won't, anyway.

Theymos didn't say-
For X the rule is Y
For Y the rule is X

It is funny because Lauda says he will not be participating in revenge but he has done it publicly against me, he only tagged me only now in 2019 because I spoke against him and his bullshit propaganda friends. Consistency is 0 in this forum and even this board is not as entertaining as it used to be, now it is becoming boring each passing day.

Exactly same page here HF, I didn't have him on my list cause not knowing him to well, but from the deal I had with him he was honest and correct so thats important.... I also even didn't gave him a hard time or anything, I even said the deals he made where all been handled trustworthy and that counted for something, then same problem, the PM came and this is a NO-GO imo as well.

That been said if he have an item or raffle I still will play if its something I would like....

I've been PM'ed by Bill claiming my tag from a number of years ago is now (all these years later) wrong because I upgraded it from neutral to red.  I've kept the neutral and have asked for clarification to his last PM to me, but ~24 hours later nothing.