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Title: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: mineshop.eu on May 28, 2019, 09:22:29 AM
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Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review. So this card was released from Sapphire about 5 month ago and currently are priced at 329 usd on their website. Which to me seems quite expensive after i have done some benchmark testing. I can see that this price has dropped as previously priced, couple month ago it was at 399 usd.

 

I’m not surprise that the price of this graphic card is drooping , as the mining profits are not just great currently on most of the AMD cards. Also the performance for mining isn’t great on this graphic card. These are the benchmarks we where getting on this graphic card :

ethereum 31.5mh/s
Monero 900 h/s
grin coin cocaroo 29 (1.8 gp/s) cocaroo 31 (0.4 gp/s)
This card has the same base line as RX570 and it has extra 16gb gddr5 memory. Currently RX570 4gb trading at 100-150usd which is more then twice cheaper then the 16gb version. This doesn’t make sense to me that this card is trading twice as expensive as the RX570 4gb version for about the same performance in mining. Yes i know that Sapphire is advertising this card as for mining grin coin on mining algorithm cocaroo 31. Which needs high end cards and at-least 8gb of memory , also this algorithm is for asic miners. But currently we do not have any asics for Grin out there, so you can use these graphic cards. This 16gb RX570 on this algorithm is very efficient yes, it does the same speed as 1080TI. But i have a really good question is it really worth it, even if it is twice as cheap as 1080ti, No it is not. The profitability is just not there. It makes more sense to buy for example (1660ti which is lot cheaper then RX570 16gb which will bring in more Grin revenue mining cocaroo 29 ).

1660ti mining profits mining grin on cocaroo 29:
grin coin calculator
https://mineshop.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/grin1-300x54.png


Sapphire RX570 16 mining Grin cocaroo 31

grin coin calculator
https://mineshop.eu/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/grin2-300x42.png

So overall my thoughts on this card is, it must be some Sapphire marketing trick. Where they are trying to sell their unsold RX570 graphic cards. Where they have added 16gb more to just get rid of them. Don’t get me wrong i would also buy this card if it was priced same price as RX570 4gb as mining performance is nearly the same.
 Click here for video review  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_iNcRuFqec&t=1s)

Would you buy it? Do you own it?


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: FloppyPurpleGherkin on May 28, 2019, 09:43:33 AM
Thanks for review.

This GPU seems pretty useless, $330.. lol


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: mineshop.eu on May 28, 2019, 10:28:53 AM
Thanks for review.

This GPU seems pretty useless, $330.. lol
Ill rather buy 3x 4gb versions for that price. Which will be lot cheaper price per hash.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: ronnieb on May 28, 2019, 01:26:51 PM
Seems like they were betting on Grin skyrocketing at this point which would be the point of these cards existing.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: rdluffy on May 28, 2019, 01:33:55 PM
When I heard about this card I just tought they have a lot of old chips and need to sell, I don't see any reason to launch this GPU on market for 330USD, and at this moment
Maybe in 2017...


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: X-ray on May 28, 2019, 02:50:25 PM
Seems like they were betting on Grin skyrocketing at this point which would be the point of these cards existing.
Not sure about they were betting on grin and have you seen where was the skyrocketing of grin? I have watched the total hashrate of grin and it was getting a significant decrease https://2miners.com/grin-network-hashrate. Miners especially for small miners are looking for alternative coin to mine that can bring them profits.  Those will not bet on the big competition like what happened with the major coin miners.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: mineshop.eu on May 28, 2019, 08:40:49 PM
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Not sure about they were betting on grin and have you seen where was the skyrocketing of grin? I have watched the total hashrate of grin and it was getting a significant decrease https://2miners.com/grin-network-hashrate. Miners especially for small miners are looking for alternative coin to mine that can bring them profits.  Those will not bet on the big competition like what happened with the major coin miners.
man what a waste, ill rather buy 1660ti which is lot cheaper and will bring more grin. The right price could be at around 150 bucks.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: Johny101010 on May 28, 2019, 08:55:09 PM
IDK if they could, but if they had put GDDR5x or GDDR6 on this puppy, it would have been fantastic.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: rdbase on May 28, 2019, 08:57:20 PM
Thanks for review.

This GPU seems pretty useless, $330.. lol
Ill rather buy 3x 4gb versions for that price. Which will be lot cheaper price per hash.
The thing that really does matter when mining is the cost of electricity per hash. ;D
This card producing the same hash for eth and consuming more power is just pointless.
I can only see this being good when the dag file for ethereum reaches 4gb and those 3x 4gb become useless to mine it any longer just like what has happened to the 3gb cards a couple of months ago. They had to find other coins to mine.
I dont have much faith in grin either. :-\


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: shield132 on May 28, 2019, 10:02:13 PM
Thanks for review.

This GPU seems pretty useless, $330.. lol
Ill rather buy 3x 4gb versions for that price. Which will be lot cheaper price per hash.
The thing that really does matter when mining is the cost of electricity per hash. ;D
This card producing the same hash for eth and consuming more power is just pointless.
I can only see this being good when the dag file for ethereum reaches 4gb and those 3x 4gb become useless to mine it any longer just like what has happened to the 3gb cards a couple of months ago. They had to find other coins to mine.
I dont have much faith in grin either. :-\
The problem is that some people aim only one coin for mining. This is situation where for example gtx wins 100%, it was possible with gtx 1070 and up to mine most of the coins in a great profit anf not only demand on one.
Thank you OP for review but what about to use 1stminingrig's style while posting a review? Would be far more interesting to my mind.
Best wishes, after 1stmining got out of sight, wish someone will follow their style.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: mineshop.eu on May 30, 2019, 09:08:39 AM
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The problem is that some people aim only one coin for mining. This is situation where for example gtx wins 100%, it was possible with gtx 1070 and up to mine most of the coins in a great profit anf not only demand on one.
Thank you OP for review but what about to use 1stminingrig's style while posting a review? Would be far more interesting to my mind.
Best wishes, after 1stmining got out of sight, wish someone will follow their style.
Nvidia is great on mining algorithms , except Monero :). And AMD from big cap coins Eth and Monero. The problem with most of Nvidia cards is that they are so damm expensive, and in most cases when you calculate hash per usd ( amd almost every time has better ratio). I have in my farm mostly amd rigs , just cause i was focused mostly on ETH and some times few rigs on Monero. Now starting to buy also 1660ti cause they are so dam cheap for grin coin gps per usd. I do believe in Grin , so thats why i mine it :) Have 60x 8gpu rigs in my farm so far.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: swogerino on May 30, 2019, 10:01:13 AM
That card doesn't offer any impressive stats except the 16Gb Vram but in hashrate it doesn't offer anything to the miners.You can buy 3 Rx 470/570 with that price and save about 40-50 dollars on that price.I don't understand the point of this card together with the Rx590 as they offer nothing new to miners, maybe they are marketed to another audience,to the gamers.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: mineshop.eu on May 30, 2019, 10:32:25 AM
That card doesn't offer any impressive stats except the 16Gb Vram but in hashrate it doesn't offer anything to the miners.You can buy 3 Rx 470/570 with that price and save about 40-50 dollars on that price.I don't understand the point of this card together with the Rx590 as they offer nothing new to miners, maybe they are marketed to another audience,to the gamers.
Well this is advertised as mining card  ;D , total bs.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: ashmodeus on May 30, 2019, 02:05:52 PM
well, i saw on reddit its about 399 USD/each ,
for me its too expensive,since RX570 4gb its cheaper right now, better to buy 4gb.
except u want use it for gaming  ;D.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: QuirkSilver on May 30, 2019, 05:54:32 PM
please, try it with CN-Heavy variants.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: shinratensei_ on May 31, 2019, 04:35:07 AM
well, i saw on reddit its about 399 USD/each ,
for me its too expensive,since RX570 4gb its cheaper right now, better to buy 4gb.
except u want use it for gaming  ;D.
This is only testing and review and you should not take it seriously. But rather than it and you can get rx580 with pay half from that price. Remember OP has already mentioned if some coins needed a big size of GPU and have you watched it?


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: mineshop.eu on May 31, 2019, 11:36:48 AM
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This is only testing and review and you should not take it seriously. But rather than it and you can get rx580 with pay half from that price. Remember OP has already mentioned if some coins needed a big size of GPU and have you watched it?
This price would be acceptable late 2017 or early 2018, when the mining profits where booming. The brothers rx570 and rx580, prices lot cheaper as they used to be. Got some RX570 sapphire pulse 4gb the other day for 115euro a piece.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: nanominer.official on February 08, 2020, 01:39:01 PM
Hi there, our team released Nanominer 1.8.0 (You can find it here https://github.com/nanopool/nanominer/releases) this version have  Cortex support on AMD Radeon RX 570 16 GB cards. Average Hashrate about 1 G / s  on this moment this hashrate equal to  1.3 $ ~1.4 $ per day.
Please, note only the frostpool works normally with Cortex. The official cortexmint rejects a quarter of shares. Vulipuli does not allow to get connected. But this is the problem of Vulipuli, they are trying to solve it, but they only have green cards.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: Herry Toms on February 08, 2020, 06:17:52 PM
I think hashrate can better if you test it on Cryptonight-GPU(RYO). Is it possible for you to check this card on Ryocurrency and share results?


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: sxemini on February 09, 2020, 09:43:35 AM
I think hashrate can better if you test it on Cryptonight-GPU(RYO). Is it possible for you to check this card on Ryocurrency and share results?

LOL and again the RYO noob. The 16Gb RX 570 Card is for Grin mining, no one interesting the Cryptonight-GPU hashrate.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: mineshop.eu on February 10, 2020, 10:46:43 AM
I think hashrate can better if you test it on Cryptonight-GPU(RYO). Is it possible for you to check this card on Ryocurrency and share results?

LOL and again the RYO noob. The 16Gb RX 570 Card is for Grin mining, no one interesting the Cryptonight-GPU hashrate.
Yeah they are for Grin, but still one of the worst performance cards.


Title: Re: Sapphire 16gb RX570 mining card testing and review.
Post by: superasianover9000 on September 06, 2020, 11:39:34 AM
It was made for Grin but its a great match made for Ethash, KAWPOW, and MTP.

I don't see anyone talking about the Pro of this card being future proof, 16GB for any current DAG setup its usable, Ethereum for example pass 20/FEB/2032 (I know ETH is going POS someday, but its just an example of this cards longevity).

Decent TDP is another Pro for this AMD card. Sure 1660 Ti is Perfect TDP but again 6GB is short-term compared to 16GB long-term on DAGs.

And sure! They might make bigger and better cards in the future, but think about it... By that time everyone is taking Crypto very seriously, and you better believe that the future prices of those future cards in a future where Crypto is taken globally serious will make 399 look cheap but now they're selling these days for 250.

If you don't over stress the cards with overclocking... I believe that since they have been touched up for mining purposes you'll be able to use these cards for over 30+ years.