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hope this is the right forum for this , if not, my apologies.
im rather new to bitcoin casino
played around with fortunejack and cloudbet
i read that those casinos need to have a license and often audited, making sure the RNG system works like it should
but honestly, anyone can really verify this information ?
so im asking, from your experience , any of you managed to win in the long run with either those 2 ? or can recommend another ?

and a question about live dealer, it seems that on every site i try to get a seat at a table, its nearly impossible, the low minimum bet are ALWAYS full, so i end up playing first person blackjack, which makes me a bit anxious since after all im playing against a machine, which who knows if rigged or not ?

Those two were reputed casinos among the few other casinos in the crypto gambling industry.

You can go for both of the above mentioned casinos but don't forget to read their terms and condition which may get you into trouble if you violate it.

before using casinos, you should do research, in the case of these two casinos we have this:

cloudbet:

Cloudbet Stole 55.35BTC of mine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137525.0)

Cloudbet Scam - Account Blocked for Over a Year!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146444.0) [solved]

fortunejack:

no recent scam accusations

Those two services have a great community support here in bitcointalk. They are both somehow old and I believe they are one of the best services around

Used Cloudbet before but not Fortunejack. I think I played there (sports betting) for almost 2 years before switching to Directbet which is now closed.

Didn't have a problem using them overall.

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About the legitimacy, I honestly not seek for it as long as the site is known for crypto gambling world.

But as always, no matter how reputable a gambling site is, there is always an issue. You can take the reference of Cloudbet issues mentioned above.

So always do a self-research before using their service.

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About the live dealer feature, I honestly don't believe on those so I don't preferred playing on it.

I'm more on sports betting so maybe you can consider my response was bias.

i did, and asked their chat as well, if i understand correctly it sums up to basically not having more than 1 account right ?
which honestly i dont get why would i need more than 1 account but ok..

There are meant sites offering free spins and faucets which may give us little bit if free money which can leads to abuse by creating multiple accounts that is why they are having such rules.

Used both Cloudbet and Fortunejack for a long time, and I must say that both are legitimate platforms, albeit the former having some issues regarding scams and customer funds. As for being provably fair, both claims to be one, and I'm sure there are ways to do that for yourself, too.


Not entirely sure about live dealer games. They are always full oftentimes so it might be that you have played during peak hours which explains why you can't get a seat.

Sites legitimacy is always been important but you should not forseen or presume that it would increase your winning chances because this is always been a dumb thing to think off.
Even how legit the site is, the winning chance would be still the same.

About Fortunejack and Cloudbet,i would say that these gambling sites are legitimate ones.Even theres some pending accusation against them but they are still being trusted by most
players here.

i know it cant affect my winnings but my gut feeling is that online games could be rigged in a way that the amount i bet has direct effect of the cards im being dealt and my chances in winning...
like if i bet low i could get blackjacks more often and when i bet high i get nothing but crappy hands with almost certainty of losing

of course this could be just me being paranoid and im not making any accusations on FJ or CB, im talking about playing against a machine in general.

so what im asking you guys is, is there a way to ease my mind in that area ? how can anyone know if the machine isnt rigged that way ?
i read about RNGs but can anyone really test that the sites are using that system ?

I'll give my honest opinion:

Do you have the option of using offline casinos? if so, then just use offline casinos. Online casinos are very risky, the chances of you never receiving your money are high. Most online casinos have a major lack of consideration for their customers, so if you want to have headaches in the future, then use online casinos that you'll have headache. Over the years I've been here on this forum, I've seen a lot of shocking and sad cases involving online casinos. That's why I only advise you to use offline casinos

if i had the option i would, i reside in a country that doesnt have land casinos
so online is the only option here
i do try to stay safe, not leaving too much money in there and i only bet small to feed my addiction :)

do you have any input about the option of those games being rigged against you ?
the actual game i mean

Since I'm a regular follower of the casinos and the entire gambling scene on the forum, I can add my suggestions as

1) FortuneJack is fine, they are accompanied by some of the reputed members of the community.

2) CloudBet sucks. Fuckin thieves who scam people for massive amounts every once in a while.

Based on my experience, they are both good site, but you can do some research as they also have some scam accusations in the past.

You can check their bitcointalk profile for their feedback history.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=303298 - FortuneJack
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=154563 - Cloudbet


They don't have negative feedback, so they seem to be trustworthy.

Both have some accusations in past but they managed to resolve it,and most importantly both sites having issues when people withdrawing huge amount of bitcoin.

I can vouch for Fortunejack, I've gambled there before, They're in Crypto gambling scene from 2014 I think. I have no idea about cloudbet, Never played there. That said you must do some searches / read reviews before you deposit some coins for gambling.

Both sites have a history of freezing withdrawals for 'security' or 'kyc' reasons, with some people waiting months to get their money. I'd stick to more trustworthy sites such bustabit, bustadice, or just-dice.

If you want that peace of mind that your bets are not rigged, then you need to go to a provably fair casino as opposed to live dealers on sites like Cloudbet, which even though may appear to be fair, you have really no way of knowing for sure that they are acting in good faith.

Both of these sites are somewhat tainted in their reputation, though, as malevolent stated.

Cloudbet has had many withdrawal issues in the past, and when I played there, once I had a withdrawal held up for hours on end until they finally released the funds. There are a ton of scam accusations made against them as well. I'd honestly go with more reputed, even if they are unlicensed dice sites that are provably fair.

thanks but, to be honest, no one can really know, ever
working online for years i have learned that there is always a chance of things to be fake, even comments on this forum can easily be by the sites owners or paid users.
i have decided it cant be trusted, no matter how much i read about it and spent days playing it, i cannot shake that feeling that its rigged, its hard to point something out but i can say with high probability that its BS and the chances of winning are being adjusted according to your betting amount, bet small you win more, bet big ? you win less.
would rather catch a flight to singapore to a nearby casino, probably healthier too, not to have it accessible at all times like online
i thank you all for your comments and time.

@doronazl

I know it is difficult to trust any website in the internet and it is a very obvious reason to do so. After all you are using your own money to play there which is your hard-earned money. Few things I would like to point out here about FJ, not because I wear their signature but honestly, FJ is a casino which cares for its players.

Any naysayers in this forum would actually be making false assumptions about them or misconceptions to drive away other players. I dont want to debate whether these are blackPR or just disgruntled addict gamblers who lost their money and are sulking now, but the truth remains the same. The trusted casinos in this site are well known and FJ is one of them. Every delayed withdrawal from their site was eventually carried forward.

However what you may wish to do is your personal choice. I am just giving my opinion. ;)