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Title: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Vod on May 30, 2019, 05:26:46 AM BPIP now has a new report that lists DT1 trust inclusion/exclusion changes.
https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx It will update every 10 minutes. Useful during dramatic times on the forum. :) (DT2 changes will be in a different report, updated weekly) This is different than LoyceV's trust list (http://loyce.club/trust/) - that one is a snapshot in time, this one is a list of changes. Consider mine like a log of moving truck rentals and hospital birth/death records, while the other is like a census. I welcome comments. Just one local rule: TECSHARE MAY NOT POST IN THIS THREAD. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: subSTRATA on May 30, 2019, 05:45:55 AM Suggestion: one thing that I think could be added is the option to filter events by user(s). Filter by (x) to view the history for just that user, and if possible, filter for multiple users (x) and (y) and so on. Might be interesting and useful for some people.
Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Vod on May 30, 2019, 05:49:23 AM Suggestion: one thing that I think could be added is the option to filter events by user(s). Filter by (x) to view the history for just that user, I was planning to put a subset data just like that on each profile's page. I just need to work with IB to figure out the best way to show increasing amounts of data. I am going to update this report so you can select the dates and profiles you want. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on May 30, 2019, 07:19:28 AM Kudos, you time off the forum truely paid off. Since the report updates every 10minutes, will there be an option to view the report of a particular day. e.g if I wanted to view the change log of today in 2weeks time will that option to fitter event by date be available?
Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Vod on May 30, 2019, 07:56:30 AM Since the report updates every 10minutes, will there be an option to view the report of a particular day. e.g if I wanted to view the change log of today in 2weeks time will that option to fitter event by date be available? I'm thinking along the lines of this url: https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx?p=profile1&p=profile2&start=startdate&end=enddate It would support a large but limited number of profiles, because of the limits of the URL (https://stackoverflow.com/questions/812925/what-is-the-maximum-possible-length-of-a-query-string). Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on May 30, 2019, 07:58:28 AM Cool, is there any way to see lower than the page of DT1 trust changes that the link takes you to (I mean for example, yesterday’s changes).
I don’t seem to be able to find a page 2, 3, 4 etc. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: LoyceV on May 30, 2019, 08:02:48 AM This is very good for viewing DT-drama indeed :D
I've been planning to make a "dtview-viewer" for a while now, but got stuck and didn't have the time yet to fix it (the HTML format is tricky to process). I have hourly dtview (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview) downloads since April 12. Would you be interested to add those to the list? Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Vod on May 30, 2019, 08:18:34 AM I have hourly dtview (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview) downloads since April 12. Would you be interested to add those to the list? Thanks, but that would require a lot of manual inserting, or time programming an import. I would be interested in posting a link to your download whenever you parse it. That way people could jump between changes and a baseline easier. :) Edit: FINALLY made the top merited post over the trading topics. Won't last long I'm sure... https://bpip.org/r/mostmerited.aspx?s=Last6 Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: LoyceV on May 30, 2019, 08:36:22 AM I would be interested in posting a link to your download whenever you parse it. That way people could jump between changes and a baseline easier. I haven't uploaded the files yet. I'll get back to you on this once my dtview-viewer is complete. I plan to only upload a copy of "dtview" when there are changes (I don't want to collect many of the same files).Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 30, 2019, 08:38:01 AM Great page, well done.
How easy or otherwise would it be to add in an entry to say if a change caused someone to move over the cut off of 0 net inclusions/exclusions, in either direction - i.e. were included or excluded from DT1 as a result of a change? Or maybe even a number in brackets at the end of every entry listing that user's net inclusions? Or is that too much? Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: LoyceV on May 30, 2019, 08:40:41 AM Or maybe even a number in brackets at the end of every entry listing that user's net inclusions? I like it, this would change:Code: bones261 trusts EcuaMobi Code: bones261 (14) trusts EcuaMobi (10) Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: ibminer on May 30, 2019, 03:03:18 PM Suggestion: one thing that I think could be added is the option to filter events by user(s). Filter by (x) to view the history for just that user, I was planning to put a subset data just like that on each profile's page. I just need to work with IB to figure out the best way to show increasing amounts of data. I am going to update this report so you can select the dates and profiles you want.I've added the quick filter to this page, similar to some of the reports, but it can only handle one word/phrase right now (on this page, it's probably only useful for a user lookup at the moment). The other quick filter(s) have other uses like using it to filter positions (most merited (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=mostmerited) members of Staff, just type "staff" in quick filter, as an example, the copper membership sometimes messes with this, though). It's currently not re-querying the database but that is probably a future goal to doing filtering/sorting like this, especially as data grows and we need to do pagination. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on May 30, 2019, 03:32:44 PM First: welcome back from your brief respite from the forum, Vod. I didn't think you'd be gone that long anyway.
Second: that's a really interesting page you've created, and I'll probably look at it way more than I've looked at the rest of BPIP since you started it (no offense meant, of course). I'm aware that people change their trust lists all the time, but prior to this there was no easy way to tell who was doing what--or none that I knew of anyway, given that I'm tech-stupid. Thanks for the work you did to make this. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Hhampuz on May 30, 2019, 10:17:23 PM This is very neat and adds another flavor to all that's going on. Much appreciated, as always, Vod!
Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: 1miau on May 30, 2019, 10:29:20 PM Great tool! May I ask how you are planning to list all the entries? Like our Bitcointalk post history where a defined number of entries is shown per page? Because I can imagine that too much entries could make it difficult to load the page somewhen.
(DT2 changes will be in a different report, updated weekly) Looking forward to it. Maybe the final layout could be up to 3 lists: 1. DT1 - DT1 involved 2. DT1 - DT2 involved (DT1 - DT1 would also show up here) 3. DT1 - all the rest involved (DT1 - DT1 and DT1 - DT2 would also show up here) Something like an instant trust / distrust indicator where users can set a depth Disadvantage: very long lists, especially 3... :P Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Vod on May 30, 2019, 11:42:25 PM Great tool! May I ask how you are planning to list all the entries? Like our Bitcointalk post history where a defined number of entries is shown per page? Because I can imagine that too much entries could make it difficult to load the page somewhen. Something like an instant trust / distrust indicator where users can set a depth Disadvantage: very long lists, especially 3... :P There is no way I can reasonably parse hundreds of DT2 accounts in "realish" time. Do you know of a real time list showing DT1 sponsored profiles? All I have is the weekly dump. I'll probably limit the "recent" changes to 1,000 like the rest of my pages. You'll still be able to access all records through the date feature I mentioned above. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: suchmoon on May 31, 2019, 12:07:16 AM Do you know of a real time list showing DT1 sponsored profiles? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;full;dt Unfortunately the format is a bit clunky - no user IDs (need to search by name) and you need parse Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: 1miau on May 31, 2019, 12:12:53 AM Great tool! May I ask how you are planning to list all the entries? Like our Bitcointalk post history where a defined number of entries is shown per page? Because I can imagine that too much entries could make it difficult to load the page somewhen. Something like an instant trust / distrust indicator where users can set a depth Disadvantage: very long lists, especially 3... :P There is no way I can reasonably parse hundreds of DT2 accounts in "realish" time. Do you know of a real time list showing DT1 sponsored profiles? All I have is the weekly dump. I'll probably limit the "recent" changes to 1,000 like the rest of my pages. You'll still be able to access all records through the date feature I mentioned above. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: roycilik on May 31, 2019, 12:25:27 AM BPIP now has a new report that lists DT1 trust inclusion/exclusion changes. Does the status DT1 on BPIP only appear if there is an inclusion/exception from another DT1 member?just want to make sure :D Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Vod on May 31, 2019, 12:32:36 AM BPIP now has a new report that lists DT1 trust inclusion/exclusion changes. Does the status DT1 on BPIP only appear if there is an inclusion/exception from another DT1 member?just want to make sure :D You are not talking about the change log, you are talking about the small DT1 icon, correct? That shows on any member that is on DT1 with a strength greater than -1 (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=dtstrength). Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: bones261 on May 31, 2019, 12:36:58 AM You are not talking about the change log, you are talking about the small DT1 icon, correct? That shows on any member that is on DT1 with a strength greater than -1 (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=dtstrength). But roycilik is on DT1 and has a strength of zero. But the DT1 icon is not by his name. Perhaps it is because even though he is on DT1, no other DT1 members trust or distrust him. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Vod on May 31, 2019, 12:49:48 AM You are not talking about the change log, you are talking about the small DT1 icon, correct? That shows on any member that is on DT1 with a strength greater than -1 (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=dtstrength). But roycilik is on DT1 and has a strength of zero. But the DT1 icon is not by his name. Perhaps it is because even though he is on DT1, no other DT1 members trust or distrust him. You are correct! Looks like this is a bug. He has no inclusions or exclusions. I will have to fix. roycilik: 0 Trusted by: Distrusted by: Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: roycilik on May 31, 2019, 12:56:56 AM That shows on any member that is on DT1 with a strength greater than -1 (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=dtstrength). I compare with the same score (0)https://i.ibb.co/c1935y8/73.png (https://ibb.co/drvM9fp) https://i.ibb.co/KXrnDJM/71.png (https://ibb.co/ZVM9S0n) https://i.ibb.co/6NZ0rM5/7.png (https://ibb.co/XV4xjQT) ~snip~ But roycilik is on DT1 and has a strength of zero. But the DT1 icon is not by his name. Perhaps it is because even though he is on DT1, no other DT1 members trust or distrust him.so I assume if there isn't another DT1 trust(inclusion) me then the status of DT1 in BPIP will not appear Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Vod on June 04, 2019, 03:08:41 AM Or maybe even a number in brackets at the end of every entry listing that user's net inclusions? Or is that too much? This is done, and I've also fixed the strength 0 and bug about no inclusions/exclusions. :) Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: LoyceV on June 04, 2019, 06:38:43 AM Or maybe even a number in brackets at the end of every entry listing that user's net inclusions? Or is that too much? This is doneTitle: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: o_e_l_e_o on June 04, 2019, 08:24:50 AM Will this be the number at the time of viewing (AKA it changes over time) or the number at the time of the change? I think the latter is most interesting. Actually, that's a good point. Looking at the list currently, it seems to be using the current number for all entries, i.e. the first of your two scenarios. I agree the latter would be the more interesting number in cases where the users are close to zero net inclusions, as it would be clearer then who is pushing users over the line in either direction.Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Timelord2067 on June 05, 2019, 08:16:27 AM Am just skimming through some threads I've been meaning to read over the last week or two.
I'm seeing "no longer Trusts" or "Trusts" or even "distrust" (perish the though) has anyone suggested colour coding? Trust shows green / distrust shows red / no longer trusts becomes eg orange? / No longer distrusts is shown as white? (Or would that be too confusing compared to the actual trust wall Vs Trust Settings? Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: coinlocket$ on June 05, 2019, 10:57:17 AM Is possible to add a link to usernames for jumping on their trust page/info/profile?
Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Vod on June 05, 2019, 09:53:35 PM Is possible to add a link to usernames for jumping on their trust page/info/profile? or the number at the time of the change? I think the latter is most interesting. How easy or otherwise would it be to add in an entry to say if a change caused someone to move over the cut off of 0 net inclusions/exclusions, in either direction - i.e. were included or excluded from DT1 as a result of a change? These three changes are being worked on. Thanks for the suggestions guys! Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: LoyceMobile on June 11, 2019, 05:26:14 AM When theymos reorganizes DT1, I suggest to just show "user was added to/removed from DT1".
Now it shows many changes like this: Code: LoyceV (48) no longer trusts The Pharmacist (35) Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Vod on June 11, 2019, 06:52:35 AM When theymos reorganizes DT1, I suggest to just show "user was added to/removed from DT1". Now it shows many changes like this: Code: LoyceV (48) no longer trusts The Pharmacist (35) Yes, that will be done before the next reorg. I can how that list could cause issues by the wording. Being added/removed from the DT list should not show as an action the profile actually took. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: LoyceV on June 11, 2019, 07:16:27 PM I'm taking suchmoon's suggestion here:
Would this be possible: Is this something you can add? A page with continuous updates on DT2:A list of former DT2 members who are no longer in DT2 because their "sponsors" got randomly excluded from DT1 (or got banned, which seems to be the second most common cause of departure). Particularly ones that were sponsored by more than one DT1 member. There might be some good people among them who deserve to be considered by other DT1 members. Code: User A was added to DT2. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: LoyceV on June 12, 2019, 07:39:39 PM Bump: what happened to mikeywith? Did he get removed from DT1?
Code: 6/12/2019 7:36:16 PM mikeywith (4) no longer trusts theymos (54) (source: https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx) Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Hhampuz on June 12, 2019, 07:40:42 PM ~ I've seen a couple of people wipe their lists today. Perhaps same thing happened with mikeywith? Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: LoyceV on June 12, 2019, 07:43:13 PM I've seen a couple of people wipe their lists today. Perhaps same thing happened with mikeywith? He was wiped from the Trust lists of other DT1 members too.Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Hhampuz on June 12, 2019, 07:44:14 PM He was wiped from the Trust lists of other DT1 members too. Oh, did not look that far down.. Hmm. EDIT; Perhaps mikeywith was the first casualty of the blacklist for the support of a bad flag? Unsure, though. Or he requested to be blacklisted? So many questions.. He's gone from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview though. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: mikeywith on June 12, 2019, 08:59:26 PM Non of the above is "correct" I have not removed anyone from my trust list, not sure how this log works, anyhow just to make things clear, I requested to be blacklisted from DT1 and seems like theymos just granted my wish, i feel more comfortable being on DT2 ( less drama i suppose ;D) and I will continue to tag scammers exactly the same way I always did. Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: 1miau on June 12, 2019, 10:34:00 PM I've seen a couple of people wipe their lists today. Perhaps same thing happened with mikeywith? He was wiped from the Trust lists of other DT1 members too.Quote 6/12/2019 7:36:16 PM 1miau (13) no longer trusts mikeywith (4) But I didn't remove mikeywith, I wasn't even online. :P The time of all "mikeywith-entries" are exactly the same so this was obviously when he left DT1 and the change log detected it wrongly as "1miau no longer trusts mikeywith" @Vod: Is there a possibility to fix that to disable entries if someone didn't took action and didn't actively remove someone? Just to make clear that I didn't remove him from my list and the entry looks like there was an incident (there was none) and to avoid any trouble in the future if someone thinks people are removing each other without reason. Too much drama right now here. ^^ Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Last of the V8s on June 12, 2019, 10:54:47 PM This all happened the same way when the latest DT1 list came out. It's just a bpip glitch, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148912.msg51425798#msg51425798 just above. Sure it was reported to Vod and team.
It looks like everyone's de-trusting each other, but it's just the trust lists being wiped but badly reported... Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: DireWolfM14 on June 13, 2019, 12:30:56 AM I didn't remove Mikey either, he's still listed in my trust list. Am I DT1 now? Damn, been in training classes all week and I'm missing all the drama.
Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: yahoo62278 on June 13, 2019, 12:42:00 AM I didn't remove Mikey either, he's still listed in my trust list. Am I DT1 now? Damn, been in training classes all week and I'm missing all the drama. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117330.msg51424908#msg51424908You are DT1 now Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: Last of the V8s on June 13, 2019, 12:42:33 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139250.msg51425478#msg51425478
yes you are congrats plenty to read now ::) edit oh snap 8) Title: Re: "Realish" time DT1 Change Log Post by: hd49728 on June 13, 2019, 04:16:51 AM I didn't remove Mikey either, he's still listed in my trust list. Am I DT1 now? Damn, been in training classes all week and I'm missing all the drama. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117330.msg51424908#msg51424908You are DT1 now DireWolf14 can more easily followed what's going on with new Trust Flag system there: theymosisms on Trust Flags (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153421.0) Official thread from theymos is there: Trust flags (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0) |
