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this picture from sopport Luckygames.io is block me  

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Hello . luckygames admin not restore my account me

https://prnt.sc/nwhyzk

https://prnt.sc/nwhz4m

https://prnt.sc/nwh2mk

this from sopport  is block me  (Couldn't send)  https://prnt.sc/nwi90z

me i say i have all info provider

and i need to talk with admin

is support say me . no chance of recovery

https://forum.luckygames.io/d/3768-i-need-help/

this from sopport

gugajuca 2 hours ago
siemdagmaer Hello,

After a thorough check we found that the account does not belong to you and so it has been permanently suspended and no chance of recovery. We also know that you have trespassed on other accounts and also suspended.

We do not give hackers opportunities on our site and we do not accept such attitudes here. Your forum account is also being suspended for trying to cheat us and recover an account that does not belong to you.

The topic is being closed for new discussions according to the rules of the forum.

Best regards
Luiz

How did they got to know that it was hacked? Plus I think mods and staffs were confused about your situation since you were unbanned in between. I think sending a signed message from Ethereum Classic address(from which you deposited) would be fine enough or sending a screenshot of the transaction history of you had sent from an exchange.

Avirunes thx fro reply me

yes i'm send my info txid and ip but not awnser me
or when anwser
tell me

Hello 😊. Thanks for your message. How may I help you?

my i say i have problem recover account

luckygames talk . give me username and email

me my username SiemDagmaer

email okokokok .

after that not anwser me .

I don't think that a website having over 2100+ daily average active users will scam a particular user for 79 ETC. This fund is nothing for this kind of website.

From content and screenshots which you provided, seems you failed to provide genuine details about claim of your ownership. Even statement of the support team - "After a thorough check we found that the account does not belong to you." and "you have trespassed on other accounts and also suspended." -  shows that during investigation you failed to provide the ownership details and it is common that during investigation most of websites hold account suspended.

Also i am agree with @Avirunes -- a signed message from Ethereum Classic address(from which you deposited) would be fine enough or sending a screenshot of the transaction history of you had sent from an exchange.

 

@RajeshKarwa   thx fro reply me

this picture from sopport Luckygames.io is block me  

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i have problem

Luckygames sopport .  
Hello 😊. Thanks for your message. How may I help you?

me .  
i need recover my account

Luiz profile
Luckygames sopport .  Please enter your username and email address?

me.  
username Sie****aer
email address dorvo******@gmail.com

me .  
i send you what you tell me reply me


Couldn't send


is block me this from support luckygames.io

@siemdagmaer

Are you sure you are the genuine owner ?

What my doubt is that you provided different e-mail address --> 1. nuyerabiyu@safe-planet.com ( In their Official forum in support topic created by you )
2. dorvo******@gmail.com (In recent support ticket screenshot provided by you)

That way no one can trust your ownership claim.

@RajeshKarwa

yes this my email . nuyerabiyu@safe-planet.com

but is not anwser my with this email or other this email just for recover my account

Creating one support ticket would have been enough. Now that you have multiple tickets they possibly might be thinking you are trolling and most likely made them confident to a point that you aren't the true owner.

@Avirunes

yes . Create multiple support ticket
becasue is not anwser me
for that Create multiple tiecket

and now how for fix that problem and recover my account  ?

what i do now ?

@Avirunes
As per my knowledge this user created multiple forum accounts and multiple support tickets and not only he tried one account but multiple different account's restore requests. So they may have found fishy in investigation ( which also confirmed by support team member @Gugajuca in his official forum topic)  and probably the administration blocked him to prevent causing problems to other genuine user accounts.

So my suggestion is to have patience and wait for official explanation from the management of Luckygames.

@RajeshKarwa

yes but how moch patience

and when reply me

need any day contact support for help me luckygames.io

@siemdagmaer

Investigation takes time buddy. I saw many websites even takes on an average more than 15 days to 30 days. In investigation there are a lot things which they need to inestigate, for example -- footprints, transaction history, IP history etc and luckygames is the one who known to finish investigations about disputed accounts earlier than other similar websites.

According to last post in this thread from their forum they made it final that the account has been permanently suspended. It seems like they were repetedly asking for some verifications that OP has failed to provide.

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Edit:


Ah alright.

@Avirunes

Yes they finished investigation and reached on conclusion. Now my suggestion is to just wait for official explanation (findings on which they concluded the result) from the management. I am sure once admin will be online, he will provide the facts.


EDIT : Here is the recent reply in official forum from admin of luckygames. ---> https://forum.luckygames.io/d/3768-i-need-help/27

https://i.imgur.com/DgbXZHN.png

@Avirunes
@RajeshKarwa

admin is reply me here

https://forum.luckygames.io/d/3768-i-need-help/25

but my i can't reply admin

admin i send you all my info again 


but i'm send you sopport message not awnser me
and too i not ca'nt reply  at https://forum.luckygames.io/d/3768-i-need-help/25

I think i can read clearly that he granted the access to real owner of the account and the same you also can read very well.

You lied and failed to provide the required ownership information and even tried 4 different accounts to restore.

I think the case is solved and moderator can lock this thread.

Thank You.

@RajeshKarwa

i'm not lei i sya i'm in cyber cafe and . some peronnal used  luckygames

contact support

https://prnt.sc/nwizvy

what can do now

i need to provider my info but is block me

@Avirunes
@RajeshKarwa

https://i.imgur.com/nnMKDDj.png

@siemdagmaer

Please read the recent update from the admin of luckygames. ----> https://forum.luckygames.io/d/3808-p1ayer-admin-reply-me-here/14

https://i.imgur.com/0Qeipu8.png

So now the address you are claiming your own, the 80 ETC withdrawn from luckygames ETC address on the same address. What's your reply on this ? Still you got any loss ? Enjoy the 80 ETC if you are the real owner as per your claim.

@RajeshKarwa


this my provider

https://prnt.sc/nwjhnv
https://prnt.sc/nwjhq0

This issue has been resolved. This guy was unable to provide a signed message from any of the addresses found in the transaction proofs he provided. Furthemore, the real owner of the account already has withdrawn his ETC to one of the address found in one of "siemdagmaer" deposit transaction proofs he used, which he obtained by apparently phishing the original owner.

This was one of transaction this guy used as proof : https://gastracker.io/tx/0x20bc654cc14b33643eafbf9c53f54c171c6eb5d090e648788823672e5a37bafc (https://gastracker.io/tx/0x20bc654cc14b33643eafbf9c53f54c171c6eb5d090e648788823672e5a37bafc)


This was the withdrawal made after the account was restored to the original owner: http://gastracker.io/tx/0xc07b542df05eee7ae59faf1b6a5e64e5ece27fa5c9eac2322de455e1736e3aed (http://gastracker.io/tx/0xc07b542df05eee7ae59faf1b6a5e64e5ece27fa5c9eac2322de455e1736e3aed)

So... yeah, nice try, better luck next time. :)

Oh really ? and look how trustworthy person is making this statement.  ;)

Grow up man and do something which can help the crypto community. Good Luck !! 

what i can do now ,

Encash the 80 ETC which is withdrawn in your own address (as per your own claim) only and have grand party.  ;)

https://i.imgur.com/Gszh0KG.png

As I can see numbers are the same, so coins are in account owner's wallet. I don't really understand this:


No chance of recovery - If account was hacked then they should return it to original owner, unless it wasn't hacked, OP broke "multiaccounting" rule and they decided to close OP's account, take OP's funds and after scam accusation they sent coins back to that address.

It is hard to say which side is telling the (complete)truth, but if hacking is in question I don't think hacker would came here to complain....

@marlboroza

Welcome Mr. Investigator.

Please make some more efforts in investigation and find out that there are 2 addresses which used to deposit funds in the account and the ownership claimed by him. Don't be lazy.  ;)

I bet once you make proper investigation, nothing will be hard to understand. Even dumbest person can understand this clearly.  ::)

Even after withdrawal of funds (In account which is claimed by him as owner), the scammer keep on crying, why ?  

As per his details provided for ownership, first time he stated that he can not give IP because he was using VPN, Second time he stated that he was accessing account from a cyber cafe and third time he even provided IP address too. You think this is believable ??  ???

Oh, this is correct transaction http://gastracker.io/tx/0x557e18b23b6f955ea515494119966bd5bd07313702927eb1be9dd2a2a36fb11f , my mistake.

If we are talking about site whose owner rigged result to cheat player (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696880.msg20820211#msg20820211) in EV+ game, I think everything is possible. Funds have been returned after this accusation, or? I will believe it if/when I see signed message from deposit address.

The issues i see in case of Mr. Siemdagmaer were:

1. Failure to provide complete details at the time of account restoration.
2. Kept on creating multiple accounts when the first thread itself had received a reply. (Unnecessarily trying to force an action).
3. No knowledge of receiving his funds back in his wallet. (Even after getting the transaction proof, he enquires what he can do now, which is totally irrelevant).

To me all sites are rigged when I am losing a lot and legit when I am winning a lot.
So that's an observation based on personal experience.
Normal human tendency is to see fault in others before reflecting on self.
My understanding of scam websites is simple. Those who do not give any withdraws at any time. Otherwise they are legit.
And Luckygames surely fits in the legit category (100%) because I personally have withdrawn a lot more than the amount I ever deposited.
and am still doing it periodically. And I have been on the website for 575 days since registration now.

I think luckygames is responsible to provide facts and findings to it's genuine users and that job they are doing very well from last 2 years. :)

I don't feel the need to satisfy time killer frustrated investigators who always like to jump in others issues without checking proper facts.

Well your personal experience might have been good but don't forget that the they also agreed that they scammed someone by rigging results. Still you find it legit? I don't know if you are part of luckygames team or not but still you should talk after taking other incidents into account as well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696880.msg20820211#msg20820211

I wouldn't know that, as I said, I don't trust gambling sites who have been caught cheating players. It is not my fault that some people don't find cheating players wrong...probably because "it happened to the other guy".
Read above.

I do know about that incident and have come across a lot more on luckygames forum.
However, an innocent wasn't scammed but a scammer himself and the admin himself recounted the details regarding it.
Haven't come across a system which cannot be broken otherwise the internet would be free of hackers and such.

I am certainly not the guy who will put forward the right cheek if I get slapped on the left.
So, I find the admins action justifiable.
Personally, I would wish that such scammers go through a perpetual bad luck all their life, but such is never the case and they do always manage to dupe someone.

However, I apologise for getting side tracked and do believe my current comment is irrelevant to the discussion. So feel free to delete, if the mods deem so.

Well, if he believes he can possible get 79 ETC for free, i think he would. It's worth the effort don't you think? :-\


OP has been asked to sign a message in here and on the site's forum. And he hasn't yet, he claims he does not know how...but then again, how can you sign a message with an address you don't own ::) Notice how his only response after learning that the funds have been withdrawn back to one of the addresses(which OP supposedly owns) used to deposit is   And poof! he seemed to dissappear after that. Because what's the point in trying to steal an empty account? :D