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Title: Republican and Democratic senators seek to block Trump Saudi arms sales
Post by: D1v4c on June 05, 2019, 04:05:01 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-arms/republican-democratic-senators-seek-to-block-trump-saudi-arms-sales-idUSKCN1T61PL (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-arms/republican-democratic-senators-seek-to-block-trump-saudi-arms-sales-idUSKCN1T61PL)

Republican and Democratic U.S. senators said that they would try to pass 22 separate joint resolutions that, if passed, would block President Donald Trump’s plan to complete $8 billion in military sales to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates without congressional review.

The announcement followed furious rejection in Congress late last month of the Trump administration’s declaration that a growing threat from Iran was an emergency that forced it to sidestep lawmakers’ review of major arms deals and approve precision-guided munitions, aircraft engines, mortars and other equipment and services for Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Lebanon.

"We are taking this step today to show that we will not stand idly by and allow the President or the Secretary of State to further erode Congressional review and oversight of arm sales".


Title: Re: Republican and Democratic senators seek to block Trump Saudi arms sales
Post by: Naida_BR on June 05, 2019, 04:07:11 PM
i don't understand why they want to block this plan.
It seems a very nice deal, 8 billion is a huge amount of money and it will help a lot the American economics. On the other side, they establish their alliance with Saudi Arabia.


Title: Re: Republican and Democratic senators seek to block Trump Saudi arms sales
Post by: Spendulus on June 05, 2019, 04:20:39 PM
i don't understand why they want to block this plan....

Because it's a Trump Deal.


Title: Re: Republican and Democratic senators seek to block Trump Saudi arms sales
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on June 06, 2019, 01:40:47 AM
i don't understand why they want to block this plan.
It seems a very nice deal, 8 billion is a huge amount of money and it will help a lot the American economics. On the other side, they establish their alliance with Saudi Arabia.

No doubt the alliance with Saudi Arabia is central to America's position in the Middle East. The problem is we know who the Saudis are using those weapons on. Israel draws flak when they retaliate when they get bombed but Saudi Arabia killing civilians in Yemen, you don't hear complaints that much.

i don't understand why they want to block this plan....

Because it's a Trump Deal.

Isn't there already several attempts in the past to block arms sale to KSA, especially after they attacked Yemen?


Title: Re: Republican and Democratic senators seek to block Trump Saudi arms sales
Post by: Spendulus on June 06, 2019, 03:12:14 AM
i don't understand why they want to block this plan.
It seems a very nice deal, 8 billion is a huge amount of money and it will help a lot the American economics. On the other side, they establish their alliance with Saudi Arabia.

No doubt the alliance with Saudi Arabia is central to America's position in the Middle East. The problem is we know who the Saudis are using those weapons on. Israel draws flak when they retaliate when they get bombed but Saudi Arabia killing civilians in Yemen, you don't hear complaints that much.

i don't understand why they want to block this plan....

Because it's a Trump Deal.

Isn't there already several attempts in the past to block arms sale to KSA, especially after they attacked Yemen?
Okay, it's opposed because it's a Trump Deal, and there is a shred of logic for the oppositional stand.

I'm not opposed to the US being aligned with SA and Israel, by the way. Not saying these countries and their leaders are perfect by any means.


Title: Re: Republican and Democratic senators seek to block Trump Saudi arms sales
Post by: squatz1 on June 06, 2019, 03:48:40 PM
i don't understand why they want to block this plan.
It seems a very nice deal, 8 billion is a huge amount of money and it will help a lot the American economics. On the other side, they establish their alliance with Saudi Arabia.

No doubt the alliance with Saudi Arabia is central to America's position in the Middle East. The problem is we know who the Saudis are using those weapons on. Israel draws flak when they retaliate when they get bombed but Saudi Arabia killing civilians in Yemen, you don't hear complaints that much.

i don't understand why they want to block this plan....

Because it's a Trump Deal.

Isn't there already several attempts in the past to block arms sale to KSA, especially after they attacked Yemen?

This is one of the things that people miss, that selling weapons to Saudia Arabia isn't about supporting the activities they're engaging in -- it's about keeping a diplomatic partnership open with a nation that is friendly to the USA. They're a major force that is able to help the US in their diplomatic efforts.

I'm not saying that I support this sort of relationship, though it is important to notice that the US has these relationships.


Title: Re: Republican and Democratic senators seek to block Trump Saudi arms sales
Post by: TECSHARE on June 06, 2019, 04:58:35 PM
Saudi Arabia is a proxy of Israel. Once you understand this, all of this makes a lot more sense. Look into the bloodlines of The House of Saud.


Title: Re: Republican and Democratic senators seek to block Trump Saudi arms sales
Post by: Spendulus on June 06, 2019, 11:20:09 PM
....

This is one of the things that people miss, that selling weapons to Saudia Arabia isn't about supporting the activities they're engaging in -- it's about keeping a diplomatic partnership open with a nation that is friendly to the USA. They're a major force that is able to help the US in their diplomatic efforts.

I'm not saying that I support this sort of relationship, though it is important to notice that the US has these relationships.

if you DON'T LIKE the Saudi connection, better think about the alternatives.

More Muslim Brotherhood?