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BTW I found a new menu in the Account Related Settings :

https://i.imgur.com/ci4eZMC.png

My log is all over the place. Most entries are from unspecified UK locations, and others include Scunthorpe, Wigan, Aylesbury, London and a variety of other UK locations. The closest to my actual location is a couple of entries for Portsmouth, I haven't been to any of the mentioned locations for many years.

I guess it is effects of TOR. What do you think? I just heard about TOR, that can bring anonymous, and actually use TOR, but I don't know what happened with my IPs by using TOR. Do such strange IPs likely are exit nodes? Long time ago, theymos wrote that he even does not know the real IP of @satoshi because satoshi account's owner always using TOR.

There are many places I log all over even my own city can't be found, I am pretty sure this was because I use VPN sometimes and I guess it's precedented. It is on my country but range are really scattered further on my location. Just to be sure I will change password regularly.

Most of the IP log of my account was unspecified and I think that there is a problem with database not knowing all the possible locations in our local. Anyway, this has been good thing to know that I am able to locate the IP of which my account was log on. Yet, is there any by chance that account log in will be restricted to an IP which is acknowledge or registered? Probably it would be complicated but I think it is possible as what being done to some crypto exchanges to secure the accounts of its user. 

I don't use a VPN, and I've only used Tor to log in here a couple of times. Sometimes I have to use Tor to view my own sites, and that records my access from places such as Moldavia. I don't have any of those entries in my log here. I use public WiFi quite a lot, and I also tether via my phone, and these may record IPs from various national hubs. Wigan and Scunthorpe are about 250 muiles from my current location.

Not necessarily suspicious though. I’ve taken a look at mine, and some place me in a different city (but within the same country). Nevertheless, if you use an IP geolocation tool (I’ve used https://www.iplocation.net), you’ll see that different geolocators give different results for the same IP. In my case, all those that place me hundreds of KMs away do have an entry from some ip geolocator that narrows it down pretty much to a nearby place in one instance or another. Some are therefore false positives I’d say.

Mine is just (Unknown), (Unknown) and sometimes it shows the correct location but among 30 days, it's just 7 times it shows my city and country.

This is normal if those places are near you and depends on the ISP.

Imagine your line as a LAN in the same nation with other PC using the same "server".

The tracking of those pc can be wrong since they track the LAN.

Anyway, if the login IP on the list is very very very far away from your and of course from another country should be a red flag.

iasenko, is this log private, or another user can access it in some way? I think admin would not do something like this if this could jeopardize the privacy of the users, at least those who do not use Tor / VPN.


That's quite normal, you do not have to expect to see your exact location. It is important that country is the same, but you probably have dynamic IP which is changing at least once every 24 hours, it is same on my side.

Only the logged user can see his own IP log (for obvious reasons). No website in their right mind is going to make their user's IP addresses publicly available.

This log is private. Only you can see your logs. Without logging in you can not see any log. Try it.

I am all over the Europe and America :-P

https://i.imgur.com/hopt3n0.png

This made me seriously rethink my archive site (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134444.0): my initial plan was to later add archiving features for all pages of Bitcointalk, but changes like this would suddenly publish my IP-address so I won't continue before I have a VPS.

You're right, I could exclude this, but my worry is that similar other pages would emerge too, and if I have to disable them afterwards I might be too late.

not sure where this change shows others your IP address. If you ignore the myips.php site and not publish this.
And the Forum Administrator has and will have your IPs by default, so this is not other than before.

maybe i miss something then explain :)

Anyone on Tor - don't try to make sense of it unless you're restricting your exit nodes to a certain country, which kinda defeats the purpose of Tor.


If you're using public hotspots or mobile networks you'll be seeing weird exit points, doesn't mean you're physically there. Geolocation is far from perfect. But you should probably pay attention if foreign countries start appearing in the list.

I'm getting England in mine 😂...
Perhaps it's helpful to screen IPs from Russia and India and other countries known for hacking as a cliche.

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Mobile networks seem to have exits everywhere over the UK, the 8 locations with 5G are probably the only 8 places with data centres for the companies...

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Thanks iaseko this was a good bump. Its interesting to know, I was wondering if it was 30 days because Theymos deleted the other data but it seems he still hasn't.

Appreciated your sharing on this point. However, because theymos created this page for users to see their IPs when log-in, there is another topic to discuss, but I don't think we should fall deeply into this. Main reasons are if someone can log in your account, they obviously will change account password and (or) email; beforer real owner log in and see such strange IPs. In the worst case, account thief will see account locked if email changed more than two times. Additionally, the new recovery procedure is helpful to get account back, it is much easier and convenient if account owner sign bitcoin message as ownership proof previously.

Yeah man I gotta say that's a bit suspicious unless you are using tor. If you aren't it's time to change your password and possibly email address.

Well, people should change their email and passwords from time to time if they want to follow the right secure practices. So I see one more positive thing in having access to your IP logs, then more people will be "scared" and change them.

I read months ago that changing emails more than twice will lead to account lock.

This is the first time I hear about this. Can you find some reference for this statement? I've changed my email recently and I did't got any warnings regarding such possibility.
It's the first time I've changed it but it won't be the last time for sure.

I will find it because I did not save link of that thread. Someone was curious about this, and tried with a new account, then that account locked after the second (or third, I don't remembered correctly) change of email, it was locked.

That account was locked because of clicking the link to lock it. This is as intended, it doesn't mean accounts are automatically locked after changing the email address.

Strange, I hope this is valid only for newbie accounts or at least for a certain period of time, like 6 months, otherwise it will be really drawback in the security.
I'll probably try it myself with a fresh account if get the time for it. Anyway, thanks for the

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BTW I found a new menu with a link to the IP log in the Account Related Settings :

https://i.imgur.com/ci4eZMC.png

I've updated the OP.

I guess it is one of method to prevent hacked accounts change hands so many times.

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It was activated weeks ago, in late of April, announcement is here: IP logging/ retention system. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136271.msg50823244#msg50823244)

my connection is always funneled through the same private IP... so its easy for me to see if something is fishy.   And what would you know;  only one IP on the list ;) 

I disagree with that. You can't go around changing your password if the IP-data isn't making sense to you. You'd just be wasting time otherwise. The different countries or zones could be the internet service provider assigning you dynamic IP addresses maybe? In my case, I have a static IP and the location is very accurate so any change in my location will be highly suspicious as seen in the bitcointalk logs. If I had a dynamic IP, I'll keep in mind the zones I'm assigned into. For instance, if living in UK I can expect to have zones from UK/Europe but a zone from India will be highly unlikely to be assigned and hence I can go ahead changing my password.

Exactly as I said before.
If you have dynamic IP this kind of tracking see your pc as a pc of on "lan owned by your ISP" and the location can be in a place near you.

If the location is shown is very far from your location or in another country that means that your account can be not safe.

Also something to note:

If you check your account from a cellphone; the location can be wildly different than your actual location;  for instance, I am in California, but when on my cellphone, the IP will show as Texas, or Washington... sometimes on the east coast....

Same here, when I went to the park 300 meters away from home the geolocation tells I've flown 400km north :P
Probably users that know they've used their smartphone or tablet should rely more on the timestamps than on the IP locations.

Of course, when you see that you've crossed the border, that's a different story

We should have a contest:

Who has the most geographically disparate array of IP addresses?

Basically, how much distance do your IP addresses cover geographically?

Mine are all from the same country, pretty boring.

Who has the most continents listed in the last 30 days?

If you have a lot, it means one of 3 things:

1. You're a world traveller, jetsetter, globetrotter.

2. You use Tor.

3. You got hacked!

Just as an extra precautionary measure, I recommend people not publish their IP addresses here. Also publishing your list if it only lists 1 or 2 countries could be a giveaway of where you live... So, don't publish that info if you mind people knowing, or guessing, anyway.

@nutildah
It won't be much of contest, you just install TunnelBear and choose which location you want to get an IP from and there you go. I guess I can pretty fast win it.


I'm talking bout the newbies which have no idea what they are doing and they are the ones that get hacked most often.
BTW if someone hacks your account and you see it after a few days, it's probably too late already, so you have to check it more often.

I posted this in the other thread, I'm the guy who got hacked recently.
These are my last IP logs. Maybe you guys should check if any of those IPs show up in your own logs.

https://i.imgur.com/AJN8pYE.jpg

I do use tor :-P

At first look stats are bit confusing Title and Data are not proper in table.

https://imgur.com/0Mtex8U


Sorry, but your post is not on topic.

You right, i'm confused. Deleted.

He|she clearly advise forum members to use Tor browser to keep anonymity while browsing online period. What exactly is not on point @welovedcrypto?, also, that for forum members to keep their account from be hack, they should consider "staying anonymous on the internet."

I have not known about Tunnel Bear, before saw your post. I will discover it more, but for now I don't think reasons we should use it, especially with very good supports from TOR network. There are very few reasons to create such fake fixed-geolocations of IPs, TOR even does it better.
I checked this page, and found there is another option to privacy concerns: https://bitcointalk.org/privacy.php