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I came across this member  icosonar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2003025) whose contribution to the forum is zero but only spams their service thread whenever someone creates a service requirement thread.

Most of their posts are along these lines





and they go on 14+  pages of their posts...

When I was looking to hire a developer myself, I asked them to show their previous work and they never replied.


For now, I've left them negative feedback for spamming services and an unreliable developer. Should I keep the feedback or remove it? I feel these scums live off project owners upfront money and have no real potential to launch any projects or write two decent lines of code for that matter.

Negative feedback not meant for spamming but here it looks more than spammy.If his service involves money but doesn't want to provide any proof for his legitimacy then he/she deserves a red tag.

I guess it need to be on Reputation section.

He said he is doing android for 5 years and didn't give me any proofs when asked for so my negative feedback is justified I guess? It is a different level of spamming when you claim to be a master in a particular service requirement and you actually bring zero skills to the table.

What do you mean? It is already in the Reputation section.

Just seen the post history and it's spam, spam and spam.
Haven't yet come across someone get red tagged for spamming but i think a neutral feedback would just do fine.
I am not sure how effective reporting such posts to mods is?
If they can actually delete spammy posts of this kind then i think a neutral tag and a report to mods option would be okay though it would be a lot of work reporting each post.

I recollect @TP tagging users for spamming in the past which was quite frowned upon. Here the problem is not just spamming but faking their projects and experience. They claim to be providing that service but in reality, when asked for proofs they can't show any. The tag will serve as a warning for recruiters who will be risking by hiring them for any sort of jobs. I appreciate your feedback though.

Sorry.Slightly sleepy,I thought its under trading discussion. :D

Maybe your can revise it into neutral or remove it after a valid reply from that person,until that keep which can serve as a warning for the newbies.

Well, Scam Accusations and Reputation are the sub-boards inside trading discussion lol You should probably sleep.

I'm waiting for feedback from other DT-1/DT-2 members to see what's their stance on the case and then revise the feedback if need to.

Too many people tell too many lies to make coin.

As long as you don't run around tagging every spammer, the rare exception is OK if it's extreme enough.  :)

But I would get rid of the racial hate in the feedback....

Although feedback's depend on you where will you leave, but I don't think someone deserve red tag for spam. Also admin isn't encourage to tag spammer and really spam isn't part of trust system. Perhaps you might open thread on meta about that spam and obviously moderators will take appropriate actions since spam belongs to forum moderation.

I never sent feedback for spam, should be a moderators job.

Just report as zero value post and they will eventually temp ban him for spam.

     Since it appears the guy is only trying to get a job and he limits it to less than once a day, I was going to recommend giving him a break. However, when I look at his untrusted feedback, there is a recent complaint against him. Unfortunately, it does not appear the complainer has made a dedicated thread on the subject, as written in the complaint, and the complaint was made on 05/22/2019.

I reacted the same way initially, and went through the same process.  Just because he doesn't want to show his previous work doesn't mean he's lying about it, he could have NDAs with his previous clients.  But a sample portfolio of work he's done just for the sake of having a sample portfolio seems like something he'd have after doing it 5 years.

If he were to ask for money upfront, I'd be very suspicious.

To opine about Patatas' original question; I tend agree with the sentiments of others, red-tags shouldn't be given for spamming unless it's an extreme case.   This does qualify as an extreme case of spam, and don't begrudge your decision to tag the account.  I would reword the review to adhere to the facts, and leave out any racial epithets.

I don't support tagging for spam. If you see a user spamming, reporting the spam to moderator for deletion of post will be the appropriate thing to do, you can also include a suggestion of ban when the issue is a repeat offense. The reason you left for the red tagged is a missuse of the trust system.

If you had tagged the user for showing some signs related to scam and requested he should come defend himself for the red tag to be removed who had be a better reason instead of the spam reason. Your trust feedback should help prevent scam not spam

If i had the ability, i would most likely give him a perma-ban for that how shity his posts are, but a negative tag for this matter is indeed not appropriate in my opinion, there is nothing close to serious that suggests he is a scammer or trying to scam, he might be lying about being an Android Dev but still does not make him a scammer.

it's your choice, but i would most certainly not tag him for the reasons you stated.

Why a perma ban? If it's a forum user who is just interested to use it to find a business to do. He shouldn't be banned for not to be interested in anything else in the forum.  Otherwise, we could argue about to ban users who log in just to post BTC news (title, description, read more, link).
If he's a "bad worker" is something else, scamming too.

There is nothing wrong with trying to conduct a good business here, but spamming the form the way he does is pretty much a good enough reason for him to be banned, and i won't be surprised if he is.

There is a thin line between practicing our rights and totally making the forum look terrible because of our spam/shitposts, after all this is not Freelancer.com ,being able to make money here is not a privilege, and not being a shitposter is a rule.

I don't think a negative tag is appropriate for this sort of behaviour (at most perhaps a neutral tag)... and I'm glad that OP seems to have removed it.

Given that they aren't just spamming in non-related threads and they appear to be sticking to "Help wanted" type threads... Personally, I don't have an issue with it. They don't even seem to be necro-posting, but replying within a day or 2 of the OPs... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Thanks, everyone for their inputs, I've removed the negative ratings. The problem with such accounts is, they don't leave a chance to make money even if it means doing something illegal or someone else has chances to lose money. For instance, someone started a thread


icosonar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2003025) replied


Now, anyone experienced enough will know how the scams on LBC works. The take such verified accounts and scam other traders without leaving a trace about their identity. Account sells, in general, create rooms for scams.

Another example of this user getting ready to do illegal stuff is this one,

icosonar replies


Now, he's ready to code a project which generates fake flight tickets to be used to get an entry inside an airport. Absolutely illegal.

Report them, moderator should be able to handle this.

Report the thread or report the post? I doubt that will help because my case is against the user who is willing to do illegal activities for money and what will stop them from doing it in the future? An appropriate flag could be suitable as a warning but again it wouldn't help if I'm not directly scammed by them.

Thread.

I am not sure about post because it doesn't reveal anything except they want to discuss something, although developing site which will be used to sell illegal goods should also fit in this category.