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Title: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: bisdak40 on June 10, 2019, 09:38:21 AM
Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Date: Saturday 15 June
Venue: MGM Grand, Las Vegas

https://i.imgur.com/ffQX7Xy.png
source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2019/06/07/tom-schwarz-tyson-fury-shock-world/

Another lopsided match will be happening this weekend @ the MGM Grand of Las Vegas as Fury will take on the German Tom Schwarz. This might serve as a tune-up fight for Tyson Fury for his rematch with Wilder, but we can't discount the possibility of an upset as Tom Schwarz is undefeated in his 24 fights with 16 of those coming by way of knock-out.

Odds for this fight Fury = 1.02  Schwarz = 10.00, lopsided i think, what do you think about this? 


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Juggy777 on June 10, 2019, 05:25:56 PM
Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Date: Saturday 15 June
Venue: MGM Grand, Las Vegas

source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2019/06/07/tom-schwarz-tyson-fury-shock-world/

Another lopsided match will be happening this weekend @ the MGM Grand of Las Vegas as Fury will take on the German Tom Schwarz. This might serve as a tune-up fight for Tyson Fury for his rematch with Wilder, but we can't discount the possibility of an upset as Tom Schwarz is undefeated in his 24 fights with 16 of those coming by way of knock-out.

Odds for this fight Fury = 1.02  Schwarz = 10.00, lopsided i think, what do you think about this? 


Tyson is everyone’s favourite to win the match, but let’s not forget Joshua too was everyone’s favourite but he lost his match. What do you’ll make of Tysons statement that he’ll retire if he looses his match vs Tom, will he actually retire or this is just another marketing stunt. Who else here is planning to bet on Tom for winning the match, and causing yet another upset.

Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/boxing/tyson-fury-vs-tom-schwarz-when-what-time-deontay-wilder-anthony-joshua-a8951916.html


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: TravelMug on June 10, 2019, 07:05:02 PM
I'm sure Fury learn some lesson on the Anthony Joshua lost. So he will not under estimate his opponent in Tom Schwarz. Although we can't compare Schawrz and Ruiz, but I'm sure he has a shot but I believed that Tyson Fury is just too good for him and it might ended in a KO.

I have a feeling that there will be no upset here.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: mich on June 11, 2019, 01:14:18 AM
I'm sure Fury learn some lesson on the Anthony Joshua lost. So he will not under estimate his opponent in Tom Schwarz. Although we can't compare Schawrz and Ruiz, but I'm sure he has a shot but I believed that Tyson Fury is just too good for him and it might ended in a KO.

I have a feeling that there will be no upset here.
I also agree that there will be no upsets when this match happens.
If Tyson can not finish off this German then he has no business in the sport.  I expect Fury to stop Schwarz before the late rounds somewhere like 7-8.
Will also be looking into a Fury ko prop 
     


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Caladonian on June 11, 2019, 03:05:05 AM
Such odds is not worth to risk your money if you'll be playing for Fury not unless you'll going to try your luck and wish for some upset,
same with those who bets for Ruiz when he defeats Joshua the last fight they've met.

It's gamble anyway and anything can happen around.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: rosezionjohn on June 11, 2019, 03:14:32 AM
Funny that even an undefeated record in 24 fights would still put you as a heavy underdog. Schwarz is also a good fighter and can take on anyone. I would like to see another upset here.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: thin on June 11, 2019, 04:23:02 AM

Odds for this fight Fury = 1.02  Schwarz = 10.00, lopsided i think, what do you think about this? 


betting on a favorite with such a chances practically makes no sense. Can Schwarz  make a history and ruin all the chances? Who knows, that's boxing. At least, if you bet on him and he wins, you get a solid reward. Or at least see hopefully a good match.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: btc_angela on June 11, 2019, 07:42:52 AM

Odds for this fight Fury = 1.02  Schwarz = 10.00, lopsided i think, what do you think about this? 


betting on a favorite with such a chances practically makes no sense. Can Schwarz  make a history and ruin all the chances? Who knows, that's boxing. At least, if you bet on him and he wins, you get a solid reward. Or at least see hopefully a good match.

I agree, as gamblers it doesn't make sense to see a 1.02 odds, Lol. Would rather take a chance of Schwarz here because of the good odds. Ruiz pull one upset already, so we don't know, if he had that one Hail Mary punch and hit Fury flush, then he has a chance.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: TopTort777 on June 11, 2019, 08:42:26 AM
Hope this match repeats Joshua - Ruiz and the underdog wins :D
To bad Schwarz mostly fought with German athletes, a he hardly know the style and experience of other boxers...


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: swogerino on June 11, 2019, 01:30:34 PM
I was just checking the odds and it looks funny an odd of less than 1.1 in a head to head fight against two persons because that is how I see it in the end,I know that many factors determine the odds like health conditions,other matches and past performance but in a fight of a person against person I think that better don't post this event for betting at all with such odds.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on June 11, 2019, 03:58:40 PM
Tyson Fury is one of my all-time favorites and I am glad that I will get an opportunity to watch him in action this week. I am eagerly looking forward to this fight, after the disappointing match that he had against Deontay Wilder. I don't know much about Tom Schwartz. But I hope that he becomes the 20th KO victim of Fury (right now he has 19).


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: eaLiTy on June 11, 2019, 09:28:53 PM
Tyson is everyone’s favourite to win the match, but let’s not forget Joshua too was everyone’s favourite but he lost his match. What do you’ll make of Tysons statement that he’ll retire if he looses his match vs Tom, will he actually retire or this is just another marketing stunt. Who else here is planning to bet on Tom for winning the match, and causing yet another upset.
The main difference between Andy Ruiz Jr and Tom Schwarz is the experience in terms of competition he faced, check out Ruiz amateur record and the amount of fights he fought during that phase and Tom Schwarz history, you will understand the difference in the level of competition, the biggest upset in boxing is still Buster Douglas simply because it was a lucky punch in my opinion but when it comes to Joshua vs Andy Ruiz he out classed him in the fight and Joshua never had an answer for his fast hands, may be he underestimated a fat guy who was hand picked in a short notice, but Joshua's management found the wrong person in Andy Ruiz, Tyson Fury will win the fight in terms of boxing skills and i am not willing to place a bet in this fight simply because of the lopsided odds  :D.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 11, 2019, 09:34:39 PM

Odds for this fight Fury = 1.02  Schwarz = 10.00, lopsided i think, what do you think about this? 


betting on a favorite with such a chances practically makes no sense. Can Schwarz  make a history and ruin all the chances? Who knows, that's boxing. At least, if you bet on him and he wins, you get a solid reward. Or at least see hopefully a good match.
Try to look on that Joshua and Ruiz bout where everyone didnt expect such result.It might happen on this one but this would always be on less chances.
Looking into those odds it pretty clear and you are right making bet to favorite doesnt make any sense.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Sharon121212 on June 11, 2019, 10:07:25 PM
I think schwarz would be motivated with what happened between Ruiz Jr and Anthony Joshua and how the less seeded came out top but I don't think that would be the case in this fight. I see Tyson fury coming out with his hands held high the match would be tough no doubt it would go above 7 round but after that Tyson would win this one


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: dunfida on June 11, 2019, 10:18:07 PM
I think schwarz would be motivated with what happened between Ruiz Jr and Anthony Joshua and how the less seeded came out top but I don't think that would be the case in this fight. I see Tyson fury coming out with his hands held high the match would be tough no doubt it would go above 7 round but after that Tyson would win this one
Tyson is pretty aware on that event happened on Ruiz and im sure that he wont be careless on this fight even its clear on who do have the edge.

One careless move then its a possible comeback or turn of events but i dont see that this would be similar on what happened to ruiz. 7-8 rounds
will be good on this one.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: bisdak40 on June 12, 2019, 03:51:01 AM
I was just checking the odds and it looks funny an odd of less than 1.1 in a head to head fight against two persons because that is how I see it in the end,I know that many factors determine the odds like health conditions,other matches and past performance but in a fight of a person against person I think that better don't post this event for betting at all with such odds.
I disagree with you, we as bettors should discuss any kind of odds here as this is the purpose of gambling discussion. It is up to you if you wanna bet with those kind of odds. I know that it is somewhat lopsided but shits happens during fights as what we have seen during the Ruiz vs Joshua fight where upset happened.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: judeafante on June 12, 2019, 04:12:38 AM
My bet is on Fury I'd like his style he had an almost perfect defense but I'm not counting out Schwarz to pull an upset because he is an undefeated record with a good knock out average, but Fury is all aware of Joshua's upset so I figure he will take all the necessary precautions to get this win.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: kaya11 on June 12, 2019, 04:39:21 AM
Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Date: Saturday 15 June
Venue: MGM Grand, Las Vegas

https://i.imgur.com/ffQX7Xy.png
source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2019/06/07/tom-schwarz-tyson-fury-shock-world/

Another lopsided match will be happening this weekend @ the MGM Grand of Las Vegas as Fury will take on the German Tom Schwarz. This might serve as a tune-up fight for Tyson Fury for his rematch with Wilder, but we can't discount the possibility of an upset as Tom Schwarz is undefeated in his 24 fights with 16 of those coming by way of knock-out.

Odds for this fight Fury = 1.02  Schwarz = 10.00, lopsided i think, what do you think about this? 


A chance to earn some good winnings in an underdog. I hope he wins, as  I am rooting for him, look at the odds man, how great is just that. I gleam some data about Tom in I think he could possibly K.O Tyson. They say he is a weak contender with good footwork.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: mu_enrico on June 12, 2019, 06:47:23 AM
I think 1:10 odd is fair. Fury has the power, reach, experience, and is a tough mofo. Meanwhile, Schwarz has the stamina (younger), speed, and accuracy. If Schwarz could extend the fight to a points decision, and be more tactical, he could create many problems for Fury. But still, Fury's battle-tested ability would be apparent in this match. Fury is par with (arguably better than) Wilder and Klitschko by the way.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: samputin on June 12, 2019, 08:07:04 AM
Hope this match repeats Joshua - Ruiz and the underdog wins :D
To bad Schwarz mostly fought with German athletes, a he hardly know the style and experience of other boxers...

Looking forward to that kind of scene as well. I've been vocal that I always go to the underdogs. So same thing goes with this one. ;D For Schwarz, he's a boxer so he will eventually get other's techniques in just a few rounds. Besides, he'll surely learn his opponent's techniques before going into a fight.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on June 12, 2019, 08:24:15 AM
My bet is on Fury I'd like his style he had an almost perfect defense but I'm not counting out Schwarz to pull an upset because he is an undefeated record with a good knock out average, but Fury is all aware of Joshua's upset so I figure he will take all the necessary precautions to get this win.
That's right he learn from his previous fight and we can see a more active Fury here. I also place my bet of Fury because he's still fit and he can still give us a good fight. Let's see if we won this time. That previous fight of Fury might still be on our mind but for sure, he will go for the belt this time.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Ranly123 on June 12, 2019, 09:23:36 AM
Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Date: Saturday 15 June
Venue: MGM Grand, Las Vegas

https://i.imgur.com/ffQX7Xy.png
source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2019/06/07/tom-schwarz-tyson-fury-shock-world/

Another lopsided match will be happening this weekend @ the MGM Grand of Las Vegas as Fury will take on the German Tom Schwarz. This might serve as a tune-up fight for Tyson Fury for his rematch with Wilder, but we can't discount the possibility of an upset as Tom Schwarz is undefeated in his 24 fights with 16 of those coming by way of knock-out.

Odds for this fight Fury = 1.02  Schwarz = 10.00, lopsided i think, what do you think about this? 


Reviewing how both fighters fight above the ring, I can say that Schwarz can pull an upset against Fury. This will be a thrilling fight and not a lopsided one. Though the odds are far against Schwarz, I guess betting on him is not a bad idea.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Lan75 on June 12, 2019, 11:14:06 AM
Reviewing how both fighters fight above the ring, I can say that Schwarz can pull an upset against Fury. This will be a thrilling fight and not a lopsided one. Though the odds are far against Schwarz, I guess betting on him is not a bad idea.
Betting for Schwarz is not a bad idea but i think Fury would be very careful here and make sure no more upset will happen in the weekend. But i would not bet for Fury either as this odds is good as nothing, i would bet if it is 1.10.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: mich on June 12, 2019, 09:00:16 PM
I was reading that this match will by not only Tyson first match in Las Vegas, NEVADA USA but it is also his first trip to this American state.
I am wondering how focused he will be with all of the sites and sounds that Las Vegas has to offer him and his friends and if he will be distracted by any of it
 


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Theb on June 12, 2019, 09:10:14 PM
Wtf are top heavyweights doing nowadays? They have been dodging top caliber opponents or atleast matching up against themselves for literally facing unknown contenders. Wilder did it first and AJ fighting Ruiz was acceptable since he was a replacement and now Tyson Fury fighting this Schwarz guy. I just hope it would be another upset win for the opponent so they could all stop talking shit to each other and start fighting each other.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Lan75 on June 15, 2019, 01:35:56 PM
Wtf are top heavyweights doing nowadays? They have been dodging top caliber opponents or atleast matching up against themselves for literally facing unknown contenders. Wilder did it first and AJ fighting Ruiz was acceptable since he was a replacement and now Tyson Fury fighting this Schwarz guy. I just hope it would be another upset win for the opponent so they could all stop talking shit to each other and start fighting each other.
Upset with this Fury vs Schwarz fight is slim, Fury will be focus on this fight to have that rematch with Wilder on track. After this lopsided match i hope i could see Fury vs Wilder, Wilder vs Joshua and stop this non sense odds on betting.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: target on June 15, 2019, 02:10:14 PM

Though Fury has the favorable reach advantage, Tom Schwarz is very much capable of knocking him down. Its going to be a huge upset if this happen. He just have to be very careful because this Tom Schwarz is very aggressive in the ring. The odds are very tempting, bet few and can win big. Must be fun to watch. If the fight doesn't end in 3rd round, I would really think Tom Schwarz will win.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: jademaxsuy on June 15, 2019, 02:10:35 PM
This is another tyson that will going to fight in a ring. I just remember the other tyson that became legend as a heavy weight champ. There are good things that happen to his career but seeing to what happen now he's been drag with cases as being violent after he retires.

Anyway, whoever wins in this match or may it be Tyson theb hopefully he will see and learn from the other Tyson. He should not forget also that he bring one of the best fighters name in the world. My bet for him.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: fortunecrypto on June 15, 2019, 05:21:30 PM
It's going to be a walk in the park for Fury, but I would love to see an upset here that would be excited and interesting for the heavyweight division but I don't see Tom Schwarz doing a Ruiz, because they are two different fighters, but let's see there could be a surprise here, who knows.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Juggy777 on June 15, 2019, 06:00:32 PM
It's going to be a walk in the park for Fury, but I would love to see an upset here that would be excited and interesting for the heavyweight division but I don't see Tom Schwarz doing a Ruiz, because they are two different fighters, but let's see there could be a surprise here, who knows.

Tyson is indeed the superior athlete out of the two, but I don’t see any upset being caused here due to Tyson’s experience. I’m however expecting Schwarz to offer decent competition, and make this match interesting to watch. How many of you’ll think Tyson can knock out Schwarz, though I know it’s going to be difficult I feel Tyson can definitely knock him out.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: zhea on June 15, 2019, 09:38:45 PM
This is another tyson that will going to fight in a ring. I just remember the other tyson that became legend as a heavy weight champ. There are good things that happen to his career but seeing to what happen now he's been drag with cases as being violent after he retires.

Anyway, whoever wins in this match or may it be Tyson theb hopefully he will see and learn from the other Tyson. He should not forget also that he bring one of the best fighters name in the world. My bet for him.
If you are referring to Mike Tyson then i think it's different, first name on one then it's last name on the other. Tyson Fury and Mike Tyson is not related.

back to the topic, Tyson Fury will have an easy evening today in my humble opinion. This guy has been there for a while and have fight names which are credible unlike Schwarz, i know anything can happen but i doubt upset will happen on this fight.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: aioc on June 16, 2019, 01:00:19 AM
I'm going to consider this fight as a tune-up for Fury I don't see Schwarz can pose a big challenge to Tyson boxing skills but I do not rule out a knockout, the guy has 16 knockouts to his credits but we all know Tyson he is hard to hit, he can move while hitting you, it would take Wilder's punch to knock Tyson.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: bbc.reporter on June 16, 2019, 03:15:47 AM
Conor Mcgregor mentioned that Tyson Fury is presently the best heavyweight fighter. 1 week later, Khabib also mentioned a similar opinion. Dana White also mentioned that he wants to go in the boxing business and revive the heavyweight division.

I reckon we might have another storyboard in development by Dana here hehe.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: rosezionjohn on June 16, 2019, 04:32:05 AM
Well, that ended quickly  ;D

It did not even give fight fans an entertaining battle. I feel bad for Schwarz, who has a previous undefeated record, only to be out in just two rounds. Anyway, congrats to Fury and to all who won with their bets.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: Baofeng on June 16, 2019, 05:45:31 AM
Well, that ended quickly  ;D

It did not even give fight fans an entertaining battle. I feel bad for Schwarz, who has a previous undefeated record, only to be out in just two rounds. Anyway, congrats to Fury and to all who won with their bets.

It's because Fury really dominated Schwarz, the referee is correct in calling the stop to the fight.  Schwarz was outclassed and he didn't even throw a punch after he get up, an indication that he was really hurt from the first KO. Look at his face, his nose is bloodied, it was really a mismatch to be honest. And Schwarz was there to lose and make Tyson Fury look good.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: rodel caling on June 16, 2019, 05:48:59 AM
Well, that ended quickly  ;D

It did not even give fight fans an entertaining battle. I feel bad for Schwarz, who has a previous undefeated record, only to be out in just two rounds. Anyway, congrats to Fury and to all who won with their bets.


Yeah congratulations to all have bet to fury he get the victory versus Schwars the game is exciting, Schwars is a good fighter but he need to improve their puching power if ever he want to ask rematch to fury.


Title: Re: Tyson Fury vs Tom Schwarz
Post by: bisdak40 on June 16, 2019, 06:12:47 AM
Conor Mcgregor mentioned that Tyson Fury is presently the best heavyweight fighter. 1 week later, Khabib also mentioned a similar opinion. Dana White also mentioned that he wants to go in the boxing business and revive the heavyweight division.

I reckon we might have another storyboard in development by Dana here hehe.
That is interesting, i hope Dana will promote Fury vs Wilder fight or it might be Fury will fight in the UFC  ;D.

Fury wasted no time in disposing of the less popular Schwarz, no upset this time though many were expecting of that one but did not happen.

Will be locking the thread in a few hours.