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Title: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: tsaroz on June 11, 2019, 11:02:48 PM
Highly anticipated ICO of the year (of last year), TON, a decentralized network for digital communication with it's Gram token had a private sale last year raising over $1.7 billion.
They are said to have a full ICO in october of this year while Gram Asia is selling some of the tokens in a IEO in liquid exchange.
The IEO would be open to all but Japanese and US citizens. The coins could be bought with US dollar or USDC stable coin but the price is not still revealed.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: passwordnow on June 11, 2019, 11:11:45 PM
I thought that they just gathered around $15M but I'm surprised with that. Sure its a big money that they've manage to collect from their ICO before. If that's what they said, it means that the sale hasn't ended but they have extended it. It's too long for them to give such update, anyway where you got this source? And with their ride to IEO, I think that they can sell about $1B again for this Gram Asia's IEO. It's also likely that investors won't be interested anymore if they will do research and finds out about this long sale they've done.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: bluesnup on June 11, 2019, 11:15:15 PM
Well a new token has enter the game! Approach with caution


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: JeffBrad12 on June 11, 2019, 11:15:30 PM
Highly anticipated ICO of the year (of last year), TON, a decentralized network for digital communication with it's Gram token had a private sale last year raising over $1.7 billion.
They are said to have a full ICO in october of this year while Gram Asia is selling some of the tokens in a IEO in liquid exchange.
The IEO would be open to all but Japanese and US citizens. The coins could be bought with US dollar or USDC stable coin but the price is not still revealed.
It's not clear for me to see your thread about do japanese and US citizens allowed to participate in the TON ico or not. A little percentage of token means nothing and i guess they will about to get another hundred of million dollars again.
Im interesting to participate on TON ico while at the same time i was also feeling doubt because it has raised a lot of money and there was only a little room to grow.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Nalbo on June 11, 2019, 11:18:26 PM
I thought that they just gathered around $15M but I'm surprised with that. Sure its a big money that they've manage to collect from their ICO before. If that's what they said, it means that the sale hasn't ended but they have extended it. It's too long for them to give such update, anyway where you got this source? And with their ride to IEO, I think that they can sell about $1B again for this Gram Asia's IEO. It's also likely that investors won't be interested anymore if they will do research and finds out about this long sale they've done.

The private sale was brief. The gap between private sale and ICO was long. And there are no clear indications what have been done in the meantime.
Liquid exchange have a dedicated page for Gram ICO. Seems like the Gram Asia is selling it's own tokens and it's not an official ICO from the Telegram. Investors should be cautious and invest at your own risk.

https://www.liquid.com/gram/


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on June 11, 2019, 11:21:34 PM
So the most abused platform by the crypto-community is set out to create a token for themselves? I bet those bounty groups must have been really impressive to motivate them. I could definitely see this coming. Wouldn't be surprised if the entire ICO is carried out on telegram itself.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Yudhisthir on June 11, 2019, 11:44:39 PM
So the most abused platform by the crypto-community is set out to create a token for themselves? I bet those bounty groups must have been really impressive to motivate them. I could definitely see this coming. Wouldn't be surprised if the entire ICO is carried out on telegram itself.

Telegram is a very unrestricted medium where people can do anything as they have many things integrated.
Not only does telegram a heaven for bounty groups, they are also one of the most used privacy focused IM.
Specially in the places with opressive governments, public are using telegram to communicate and share news which otherwise would not make it to the press.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Ferris419 on June 11, 2019, 11:58:15 PM
Telegram had a private sale and as I knew, it raised 800M USD to 1 Billion. This is the first time I am seeing the 1.7 Billion figure! However, I don't think their IEO will be open to everyone. If they choose even an average exchange to held their IEO, I am sure all token will be sold out within seconds! After Bitfinex's LEO coin, now Telegram's TON/Gram coin! These coins are not for the public!


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: republicrypto on June 12, 2019, 03:27:17 AM
Highly anticipated ICO of the year (of last year), TON, a decentralized network for digital communication with it's Gram token had a private sale last year raising over $1.7 billion.
They are said to have a full ICO in october of this year while Gram Asia is selling some of the tokens in a IEO in liquid exchange.
The IEO would be open to all but Japanese and US citizens. The coins could be bought with US dollar or USDC stable coin but the price is not still revealed.

wow, already collected over $1.7 billion and now will do another token sale again ?
then how much money they needed to developing their project ?
regards


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: waynechong1995 on June 12, 2019, 03:28:05 AM
I partially confused with the news of the so called TON tokens, there's private sales that raise billions and another so called GRAM Asia from Korea is selling their holdings somehow and it's not associated with the project owners (telegram), a website named ico-telegram.org says the ICO has halted with refunds, but news say it's selling on liquid.com and it's just hours ago. No idea what's going on haha


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Lakai01 on June 12, 2019, 03:39:32 AM
wow, already collected over $1.7 billion and now will do another token sale again ?
then how much money they needed to developing their project ?
regards
This makes me wonder, too. What is the token all about? I think its a utility-token having some use cases in Telegrams software?

The period between private and public sale is definitly way too long. Even if early investors had to lock their tokens this lock may be lifted soon and investors may push their tokens into the market as soon as the price raises further due to the IEO.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: anehh on June 12, 2019, 03:48:10 AM
If have made a personal sale that raised more than $ 1.7 billion. Of course it will be an interesting ICO, but unfortunately the price is unknown. Do you have a news link about this telegram gram Token? If not, I will wait patiently for the next few months. Thank you for the info.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Pffrt on June 12, 2019, 04:01:57 AM
wow, already collected over $1.7 billion and now will do another token sale again ?
then how much money they needed to developing their project ?
regards
This makes me wonder, too. What is the token all about? I think its a utility-token having some use cases in Telegrams software?

The period between private and public sale is definitly way too long. Even if early investors had to lock their tokens this lock may be lifted soon and investors may push their tokens into the market as soon as the price raises further due to the IEO.
Telegram is bringing gram coin and it's being heard for a long time. I think they are developing something good and real usable coin unlike the so said utility token.
Where's the update are being posted? I got no touch of this.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: z21770179 on June 12, 2019, 04:45:29 AM
I just don't know why Telegram chose Liquid as an exchange open to sell its token. Because I see that in addition to Liquid, there are many other exchange with a larger number of users. This may be a way for Liquid to promote its exchange


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: styca on June 12, 2019, 05:48:42 AM
The rumour is that hey have raised $1.7 billion already. If this is true, then there is absolutely no need for them to raise more money with another sale. For me this is a big red flag. I don't trust these projects that have no hard cap, they just smell of greed. I am extremely skeptical that $1.7 billion just isn't enough to launch and maintain their crypto project.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: DigitalTerminal on June 12, 2019, 07:45:03 AM
Why everyone is waiting for it?


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Prateek_sharma on June 12, 2019, 10:29:28 AM
Highly anticipated ICO of the year (of last year), TON, a decentralized network for digital communication with it's Gram token had a private sale last year raising over $1.7 billion.
They are said to have a full ICO in october of this year while Gram Asia is selling some of the tokens in a IEO in liquid exchange.
The IEO would be open to all but Japanese and US citizens. The coins could be bought with US dollar or USDC stable coin but the price is not still revealed.


As per the press release, the Gram token sale (https://coinpedia.org/news/telegram-gram-token-on-public-sale-through-liquid-exchange/) will take place on Liquid exchange on July 10th, 2019 at 8:00 am UTC. Investors on the Liquid platform can purchase the Gram tokens with USD and stable coin USD Coin (USDC).

Mike Kayamori, The Co-Founder And CEO Of Liquid, Said:

We Are Excited To Be Partnering With Gram Asia To Launch The Gram Token Sale. It Is Wonderful News To Our Community Who Are Native Users Of Telegram. We Share The Vision For A More Secure And Open Value Transfer System To Enable The Mainstream Adoption Of Cryptocurrencies.

What's your point of view on this.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: lobat999 on June 12, 2019, 11:27:32 AM
Highly anticipated ICO of the year (of last year), TON, a decentralized network for digital communication with it's Gram token had a private sale last year raising over $1.7 billion.
They are said to have a full ICO in october of this year while Gram Asia is selling some of the tokens in a IEO in liquid exchange.
The IEO would be open to all but Japanese and US citizens. The coins could be bought with US dollar or USDC stable coin but the price is not still revealed.


As per the press release, the Gram token sale (https://coinpedia.org/news/telegram-gram-token-on-public-sale-through-liquid-exchange/) will take place on Liquid exchange on July 10th, 2019 at 8:00 am UTC. Investors on the Liquid platform can purchase the Gram tokens with USD and stable coin USD Coin (USDC).

Mike Kayamori, The Co-Founder And CEO Of Liquid, Said:

We Are Excited To Be Partnering With Gram Asia To Launch The Gram Token Sale. It Is Wonderful News To Our Community Who Are Native Users Of Telegram. We Share The Vision For A More Secure And Open Value Transfer System To Enable The Mainstream Adoption Of Cryptocurrencies.

What's your point of view on this.

I think people might caution on this sale since it was stated on the article that Liquid has no direct relationship with Telegram itself and is only acting as  a third party reseller of GRAM tokens so I guess we shall wait and see for further developments and news about this matter.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: georgehosterguy on June 12, 2019, 11:43:59 AM
They're going with Liquid apparently.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: carrigan on June 12, 2019, 12:33:56 PM
I have just heard about this news today, but I don't read the news completely yet. Really curious about the coin and the concept. This is part of the crypto development where some media social finally get in the crypto world closely, like what's done by Facebook. This may be a good signal for crypto future. But, will it be successful? Let's watch and wait.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Erickan on June 12, 2019, 12:49:08 PM
Investors can buy token Gram in advance in July, but it is not until October they are paid tokens and traded. although this is a big project but I don't feel interested in it, the time to mobilize capital is too long. not to mention the price after listing is still a big question mark, because it is unlikely to increase.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: CryptoIyke on June 12, 2019, 01:50:19 PM
Project launch is long overdue, I dislike when project stay too long in trying to raise fund, it appears they are here for the sake of funds and not what they promise to serve. They would have gotten a lot more attention if the developing an exchange and making the gram token an exchange token just like Binance, they already have the numbers


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: passwordnow on June 12, 2019, 11:08:25 PM
I thought that they just gathered around $15M but I'm surprised with that. Sure its a big money that they've manage to collect from their ICO before. If that's what they said, it means that the sale hasn't ended but they have extended it. It's too long for them to give such update, anyway where you got this source? And with their ride to IEO, I think that they can sell about $1B again for this Gram Asia's IEO. It's also likely that investors won't be interested anymore if they will do research and finds out about this long sale they've done.

The private sale was brief. The gap between private sale and ICO was long. And there are no clear indications what have been done in the meantime.
Liquid exchange have a dedicated page for Gram ICO. Seems like the Gram Asia is selling it's own tokens and it's not an official ICO from the Telegram. Investors should be cautious and invest at your own risk.

https://www.liquid.com/gram/
Alright so it was a private sale and that really made a lot of money for the project. It's' now official that Gram will have their IEO and it's going to be on liquid. Who's going to invest to this project? I find it risky after all of those months that people have waited for the update of their TON but now that it has been there, I think that it will also hype this sale on liquid. Is it possible that other exchange will have IEO at the same time for the same project?


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Jrfranco on June 12, 2019, 11:24:59 PM
Highly anticipated ICO of the year (of last year), TON, a decentralized network for digital communication with it's Gram token had a private sale last year raising over $1.7 billion.
They are said to have a full ICO in october of this year while Gram Asia is selling some of the tokens in a IEO in liquid exchange.
The IEO would be open to all but Japanese and US citizens. The coins could be bought with US dollar or USDC stable coin but the price is not still revealed.

I am surprised that they gathered billion.of dollars and.they will be having another.round of token sale? is it not.enough, it seems like i feel.something fishy, i hope i am not. Well, lets hope for the best and we all.must be aware.of what we are investing too.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Emilyp on June 12, 2019, 11:31:20 PM
What else could they be looking for if they truly made 1.7 billion from private sales? I'm beginning to believe that something is not adding up in this token sale.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Bananington on June 12, 2019, 11:40:39 PM
Initially when I saw this TON token sale information, I thought it's not real since rumors have it that Telegram is not aware of the IEO on liquid Exchange .  Well, it's becoming reality, I hope they carry out the token sale successfully.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: bitgolden on June 15, 2019, 10:43:30 AM
Highly anticipated ICO of the year (of last year), TON, a decentralized network for digital communication with it's Gram token had a private sale last year raising over $1.7 billion.
They are said to have a full ICO in october of this year while Gram Asia is selling some of the tokens in a IEO in liquid exchange.
The IEO would be open to all but Japanese and US citizens. The coins could be bought with US dollar or USDC stable coin but the price is not still revealed.
Please when you are showing projects that are attributed with popular companies like this, kindly show proof of information in other to verify if this is genuine or not, because I know how a project that claim to be telegram got the attention of a lot of investors including me in 2018, and made us to make very investment, only for us to know that it was a scam, website looked genuine and they did it professionally like it was telegram.

I know I am eager to participate in projects like this because of their popularity already, which will also be a very great thing if they come into cryptocurrency industry, but I need to be careful again now, because twice beaten, once shy.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Bharathi13 on June 15, 2019, 12:07:51 PM
I thought that they just gathered around $15M but I'm surprised with that. Sure its a big money that they've manage to collect from their ICO before. If that's what they said, it means that the sale hasn't ended but they have extended it. It's too long for them to give such update, anyway where you got this source? And with their ride to IEO, I think that they can sell about $1B again for this Gram Asia's IEO. It's also likely that investors won't be interested anymore if they will do research and finds out about this long sale they've done.
Liquid is not selling token on behalf of telegram company, its one of their investors as mentioned by OP GRAM ASIA who purchased big volumes of GRAM token in the Original ICO. Looks like GRAM Asia wants to dump GRAM Token on to the public through IEO. Buyers will not be able to withdraw, trade or transfer GRAM Token before they are release, GRAM token will be released when TON goes live.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: Olatunjex on June 15, 2019, 09:16:23 PM
Highly anticipated ICO of the year (of last year), TON, a decentralized network for digital communication with it's Gram token had a private sale last year raising over $1.7 billion.
They are said to have a full ICO in october of this year while Gram Asia is selling some of the tokens in a IEO in liquid exchange.
The IEO would be open to all but Japanese and US citizens. The coins could be bought with US dollar or USDC stable coin but the price is not still revealed.
what is the source of your news, a lot if things has been said about TON without any reference to the source, it's one of the most anticipated project but there has beem little info about the project.


Title: Re: Telegram's Gram token finally going on Public sale from July 10
Post by: darkangel on June 29, 2019, 10:25:32 PM
These big corporations are gradually taking tactical positions in this cryptocurrency space and I won't be surprised if the likes of Alphabet, Apple, Microsoft and Amazon comes beckoning big time