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Title: SignalProfits?
Post by: KCL257 on June 15, 2019, 01:16:30 AM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: ichai on June 15, 2019, 02:39:04 AM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys
In my opinion, you should ignore those news. You should know that, if their strategy and signals are right, they will keep themselves and earn more money.
For example, the signal is known by 1000 traders and they continue to buy, so the price has been pushed up naturally and the signaler will take advantage of the opportunity to sell at a high price.
This is one of the tricks of the signal generator. Don't believe them.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: cryptoking1981 on June 15, 2019, 01:07:50 PM
All signal groups 100% are all pump and dump groups.

The lead trader is the one who has the most advantage as he gets in at the very bottom and sells at the very top.

like the earlier post, said the lead trader will normally exit before everybody else to lock in profits.

I have traded for less than a year and I have gained a lot of knowledge on how to trade buy actually trading, learning from my mistakes and educating my self on a daily basis.  The free resources to learn on the internet especially youtube is incredible.

I would advise not to sign to any signal groups (pump or dumps) or paid subscriptions of ANY sort.  If these traders were so profitable why do they need your money? to offset their trading risk most likely thats why.

The best way to spend your money is to actually trade, start small and see your losses as education fees.  All the very best traders have blown multiple accounts before they became profitable.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: Pursuer on June 15, 2019, 01:56:06 PM
anybody who is selling "signals" is actually scamming you under the hood. and this is not just a cryptocurrency market related thing, it is in any other market and it is a well known fact that if anybody was actually an "expert" in trading and knew what they were doing, then they would have never wasted their time "selling" signals instead of "trading".
so that only leaves idiots who can not trade or don't know how to make profit in trading so they have to succumb to scamming others by selling them fake advice and make money that way.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: leowonderful on June 15, 2019, 03:19:57 PM
There simply aren't any shortcuts in trading, and signals are definitely not a shortcut to becoming profitable as others have mentioned here. The only way you'll actually become 'good' and profitable at trading is if you read up on some of the thousands of guides and books out there on the internet and take time to really understand and develop a trading strategy using the information you find. There's just so much information out there today for you to use, much of it for free.

I would also suggest only putting a small amount of money initially into trading that you can afford to lose. There's a good chance you'll lose this money, but you gain a lot of knowledge by analyzing what mistakes you made in a losing trade and you can use this to improve yourself as a trader.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: milewilda on June 15, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys
Dont listen up to someone who do refer any company or individual that do charged up for any specific signals for trading which they do claim that they are profitable.
Trial?It should really be free and with no cost at all.If they do ask out some amount for trial then its fraud one.Better to learn on your own than joining on these useless groups because you can eventually get sufficient reference and others analysis for free if you do really seek it up.No need to pay something which is totally useless.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: Kucink on June 15, 2019, 04:43:34 PM
i think you must believe in your analisys self than you waiting the signal like that.
or you can join trader community to get a good strategy to trade.
until now i just take my self in trade and it is keep profit until now.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: mirawantirinjana on June 16, 2019, 12:51:37 PM
You should make the signal profit as a reference tool, actually I don't believe in part of the Signal Profit because most of them only benefit them, and most only harm their members.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: numanoid on June 16, 2019, 03:02:54 PM
i think you must believe in your analisys self than you waiting the signal like that.
or you can join trader community to get a good strategy to trade.
until now i just take my self in trade and it is keep profit until now.
Oh yea? If you really can make profit from your own analysis, how about you make a group and then you let OP join on your group? It's a win-win solution for both of you though


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: jems on June 16, 2019, 03:27:57 PM
Honestly, I'm not so 100% believing in trading signals because there have been a lot of time ago that many offered trading signals but on average they were just fraudulent who under the guise of signals just for personal gain. Be careful and good luck.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: Julunguul on June 16, 2019, 10:35:35 PM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys

Just skip if there are offers like this. The longer the quality of the profit signal or whatever you call it, the worse it gets. Usually the good is only the beginning when they give you a free demo. This is the same as on a demo account on Forex. They give you big and bigger profits in trial and demo account but then it's very different output when using real account.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: Zemomtum on June 16, 2019, 10:50:46 PM
Do your own research and learn the technical analysis. Do not invest is someone opinion, you are responsible for your own decision and the capital is yours. Learn how to study the market movement and choose the tools that works for you over time.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: BitHodler on June 16, 2019, 11:49:13 PM
Do your own research and learn the technical analysis. Do not invest is someone opinion, you are responsible for your own decision and the capital is yours. Learn how to study the market movement and choose the tools that works for you over time.
People are either too lazy to learn technical analysis or have tried to but failed. People thinking about buying into signal groups tend to be those who failed trying to trade themselves.

If the above doesn't apply, people have likely been tricked into thinking that it's very profitable to buy the signals from whatever entity. Social media is full of shills pretending to have made thousands because of signals.

I have also noticed an influx of forex related signal groups popping up left and right. It might even be that some of these forex groups also run one or more related to crypto. It's a small world after all.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: GreatArkansas on June 17, 2019, 01:45:37 AM
We can't force people to learn to trade and we can't stop them subscribing to different paid groups that provide signals.
I just want to be fair for those people who can afford those subscriptions from premium paid groups and to those people who cant.

Because some people have the reason why they subscribe to that paid groups because maybe they are busy on their life like in a full-time job, but they have the money and can afford to join in paid groups. The other side is people who don't want to join in such paid groups since they can't learn something or they can't afford the fee.
Although you can join in paid groups while learning or you will learn by yourself and do trade base on what you learn are all fine.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: sana54210 on June 20, 2019, 02:51:46 PM
I don’t rely on signals because signal could be very misleading, and those who are shilling the signal to you is not doing so off hand, they also use BOT software to create the signals, which some of them might work for you, but you do not have an assurance that things will always go that way.

The bad thing about signal is that when they give a wrong one, that wrong signal could lead you to losing 100% of your money completely. I think what you should try and do is to make more research yourself, learn more and develop your own strategy so you can be able to work with technical and fundamental analysis  for you to generate your own signals.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: mersal on June 20, 2019, 06:51:17 PM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys
Signals? Profits?

Don't get fooled,they are going to steal your money and also you will be used for the manipulation and they will keep making more and more money.

Stick with your limits and earn from your instinct if you are not an analyst.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: ryzaadit on June 20, 2019, 09:02:12 PM
I subscribe a few signal provider at the telegram, most of them were really have a bad entry and always late to give the entry price. The signal provider, give us a signal with entry price already up, so they want us to enter the market at fomo. Better to avoid signal provider, can't bring you a real profit, I'm. really comfortable with fundamental news just like LTC with his halving news. I buying LTC around 2-3 month ago and the result was pretty good, the signal provider gives entry for the price right that just makes us enter the market. They only get a few percentages, I already double up my money with an only 1-3 month.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: harizen on June 20, 2019, 09:33:14 PM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys

Professional traders are very busy to the point that they can't even give spare time sharing authentic and reasonable signals. Therefore, what you encounter is surely a pump and dump group that will lure you into something.

Ignored it. You can ride the market on your own.

What's the company name? Disclosed it here.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: Oceat on June 20, 2019, 10:04:50 PM
Never ever trust a signal group, they were all a scam from the beginning unless if you have a friend that you trust on that but most of all it is just a bunch of pumps and dumps. You won't get any profit on that if they were going to sell you out instead of gaining they will only just gain and not you.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: Mahanton on June 20, 2019, 10:58:44 PM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys

Professional traders are very busy to the point that they can't even give spare time sharing authentic and reasonable signals. Therefore, what you encounter is surely a pump and dump group that will lure you into something.

Ignored it. You can ride the market on your own.

What's the company name? Disclosed it here.
A true point where those professional or profitable traders wont really have that time on sharing their own signals and hell,no one would
like to share up their winning formula.If they are already making money then they would spoil it on their own rather than thinking on sharing it up.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on June 20, 2019, 11:31:44 PM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys
Signals will not make you rich in trading, specially those who are asking for a monthly fee. Only those who operates the signals group will earn because by the time they give or announced which coin to buy, they already bought ahead of you and when you buy, they will start unloading their coins giving them profits. They win, you lose. Just observe and learn. If you want to earn more, you have to learn more. Use those tools available in the site.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: javainn on June 20, 2019, 11:33:09 PM
I do not recommend this, I would rather recommend you analyze yourself and you are more selective about crypto. so I think signal profit depends on you alone and you can get it from your own thinking.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: wawanlindu on June 21, 2019, 04:02:40 AM
~snip~
I have traded for less than a year and I have gained a lot of knowledge on how to trade buy actually trading, learning from my mistakes and educating my self on a daily basis.  The free resources to learn on the internet especially youtube is incredible.
~snip~
I agree with you. Better to learn and practice, rather than having to join signal groups. Information resources are available free on the internet, now it depends on how we absorb them.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: henmark on June 21, 2019, 06:48:02 AM
We can't force people to learn to trade and we can't stop them subscribing to different paid groups that provide signals.
I just want to be fair for those people who can afford those subscriptions from premium paid groups and to those people who cant.

Because some people have the reason why they subscribe to that paid groups because maybe they are busy on their life like in a full-time job, but they have the money and can afford to join in paid groups. The other side is people who don't want to join in such paid groups since they can't learn something or they can't afford the fee.
Although you can join in paid groups while learning or you will learn by yourself and do trade base on what you learn are all fine.
Pure laziness is what I see people paying for signal is, they are busy, but they have the time to login to that paid group page and then pick the signal to go apply, the time they are using to pick that signal is the time they will quickly use to develop their own personal signal, anyone who is busy to trade should then stay off trade, which is why we have long term investment.

If those paid group are so good, they would have used all their signals to make very high money in the market and also would not have time to attend to people, it is because those signal group too are jobless and does not make money from the trading market that they want to scam users with their assumed signals.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: Indrawan77 on June 21, 2019, 12:46:03 PM
Signal group can be used as reference not the place to rely on to make your trading decision, and I don't feel any used to subscribe to paying signal group, just slowly build your experience and learm the basic steps, it will be more profitable if you learn how to trade by yourself, sometime the result of the signal could be disappointing


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: leonix007 on June 21, 2019, 01:03:06 PM
Signal group can be used as reference not the place to rely on to make your trading decision, and I don't feel any used to subscribe to paying signal group, just slowly build your experience and learm the basic steps, it will be more profitable if you learn how to trade by yourself, sometime the result of the signal could be disappointing

Finally nailed it, I'd just couldn't imagine some people are easily judged paid groups as a scam, no not all of them, I've been personally on a paid group and it was to see how do they trade, tricks, tips, educational materials, its I think an easy access on these infos and are feed up to the members.

Might be that I was lucky to be join on a group that promote growth within yourself and not truly rely on their signals.

I am already out of the group to see how much I grow and test the knowledge I've got.



Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: creeps on June 21, 2019, 01:25:24 PM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys
If you are willing to paid this kind of signal, you'd better to spend it on yourself learning how to see the market trend meaning learn how to trade, attend seminars and find your mentor I guess its more worth it than to join and signal group. I don't usually join into this kind of scheme because I know, this is my loss since I can't understand how the market works and only depend to them which is not cheap as you said. The best weapon to succeed here is your knowledge so invest on yourself first.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: iamzill on June 21, 2019, 06:21:44 PM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys
I am not sure about the company, I am more confident to do an analysis based on my own knowledge to see the signal profit. yes maybe the road looks easier but I think it's not relevant and can be trusted


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: maydna on June 21, 2019, 06:43:30 PM
I suggest you analyze by yourself and don't depend on other people signals or news because they cannot always right. We don't know how good their skills in trading and what their real motive to give the signals, especially if they ask for a subscription fee in monthly. I've already seen this before, and I already tried to join with some of the signals group but the reality, they cannot help me to get the profit. It is better to analyze by ourselves because that will improve our skills in trading, so we don't depend on other people in trading.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: maldini on June 22, 2019, 08:55:39 AM
anybody who is selling "signals" is actually scamming you under the hood. and this is not just a cryptocurrency market related thing, it is in any other market and it is a well known fact that if anybody was actually an "expert" in trading and knew what they were doing, then they would have never wasted their time "selling" signals instead of "trading".
so that only leaves idiots who can not trade or don't know how to make profit in trading so they have to succumb to scamming others by selling them fake advice and make money that way.

That's right, the signal sellers are no more than ICO scammers, they only sell and are not responsible. If they are truly professional in trading, they can trade on their own and produce more.

I myself have also followed a signal like this and finally Zonk, maybe tempted by screenshots and the benefits gained but believe it is just a hoax.

I better use my money to study on my own, because self-study will have experience in reading graphics. Being a solo trader is the best choice, even though it's not as profitable as at least you are satisfied with your results.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: maxreish on June 24, 2019, 02:25:52 AM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys
In my opinion, you should ignore those news. You should know that, if their strategy and signals are right, they will keep themselves and earn more money.
For example, the signal is known by 1000 traders and they continue to buy, so the price has been pushed up naturally and the signaler will take advantage of the opportunity to sell at a high price.
This is one of the tricks of the signal generator. Don't believe them.

It all depends. I have an acquintance who joined signal group worth $100. It is not working 100% but it works most of the time. If you are most of the time a btc trader, you can actually test it in a span of two weeks. They have a trial period and you can easily spot if it really works or not. But if you are hesitant, just be independent and try to learn technical analysis. It maybe a big help to you as a trader.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: RealMalatesta on June 24, 2019, 07:09:47 AM
~snip~
I have traded for less than a year and I have gained a lot of knowledge on how to trade buy actually trading, learning from my mistakes and educating my self on a daily basis.  The free resources to learn on the internet especially youtube is incredible.
~snip~
I agree with you. Better to learn and practice, rather than having to join signal groups. Information resources are available free on the internet, now it depends on how we absorb them.
There is nothing as sweet as being independent, when you are independent, you are able to control your time, and also be able to make choices as to what is good for your trade or not, but for signal, you have to rely on someone’s prediction based on the promises that it is right by the analyst without being able to verify it.

It is better one really learns how to read charts, and even if one fails, from that that failure is what makes one become a perfect person. There is no point paying someone else to do what we are capable of doing ourselves too, except for those who has other means of making money that keeps them away from having time to make research and studies.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: Genamant on June 24, 2019, 08:09:13 AM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys

do not depend on signal groups it will just limit your eagerness to learn
and its 99% that this group might dissolve your capital , treat your trades as your business , manage it carefully


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: D3m1r4wanti on June 24, 2019, 09:13:25 AM
I have said many times in various threads, that make a signal profit as a coin reference that you will trade, but do not make it as your qiblah in trading.
most of their predictions will only make you suffer losses.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: joromz1226 on June 24, 2019, 09:36:56 AM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys

Well, I cannot say that not all news are precise and correct, because as far as I know before they broadcast they will edit first the news before they deliver it to the public, which is they will remove the necessary and unnecessary things. So, if I were you it is better for you to do your own way to check other signals at the exchange that belongs on top in the market.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: DGulari on June 24, 2019, 10:00:32 AM
do not depend on signal groups it will just limit your eagerness to learn
and its 99% that this group might dissolve your capital , treat your trades as your business , manage it carefully
I think if you joined on legit signal trading group, it should be enough. You can also learn how to trade from their signals

I have said many times in various threads, that make a signal profit as a coin reference that you will trade, but do not make it as your qiblah in trading.
most of their predictions will only make you suffer losses.
The fuck is qiblah meaning?


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: Coin-1 on June 24, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
so that only leaves idiots who can not trade or don't know how to make profit in trading so they have to succumb to scamming others by selling them fake advice and make money that way.

In general, you're right. People who are new to trading usually buy such signals. But not all pumping group administrators are scammers who want to steal money from those who bought their signals. Sometimes they want to strongly pump the coin price, so they are interested in a large amount of coins involved in trading on the exchange. Of course, the pump organizers gain a huge chunk of the profits, but a wise administrator sends signals to sell on time so as not to lose these traders in the future.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: KCL257 on June 26, 2019, 03:01:03 AM
Thanks for the info guys, appreciate all the replies. Decided not to go with SP, or any other signal group. Been watching some youtube analysis on certain things and am hoping to learn that way. Along with some small trades for experience


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: dmty.0809 on June 26, 2019, 04:24:20 AM
Sometimes the profit signal is not all accurate, I once bought it, with a 7 day trial. But it didn't have a good effect. In fact, it made my mind even more chaotic. : :: ???


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: Maddinson100 on June 26, 2019, 11:10:25 AM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys
Whenever I see these people that claims to be giving signals that can help others to earn money from trading, my question is always why don't they use that strategy to trade themselves and make lots of money instead of charging people money and giving them the signals, lol. It's because they know nothing, if they really know anything they would have preferred to be using that strategy and trading big amounts and making lots of money. And by the way that is something you can do for yourself, I will advise you to study it and do it by yourself, instead of paying for it, that doesn't make any sense.


Title: Re: SignalProfits?
Post by: bitgolden on June 27, 2019, 06:29:04 AM
Recently had this company recommended to me. Has anyone used it? Do you find a good percentage of the signals work? They have a 2 week trial for very cheap but monthly, its very expensive lol.... Wanted to get some opinions from you guys
In my opinion, you should ignore those news. You should know that, if their strategy and signals are right, they will keep themselves and earn more money.
For example, the signal is known by 1000 traders and they continue to buy, so the price has been pushed up naturally and the signaler will take advantage of the opportunity to sell at a high price.
This is one of the tricks of the signal generator. Don't believe them.

It all depends. I have an acquintance who joined signal group worth $100. It is not working 100% but it works most of the time. If you are most of the time a btc trader, you can actually test it in a span of two weeks. They have a trial period and you can easily spot if it really works or not. But if you are hesitant, just be independent and try to learn technical analysis. It maybe a big help to you as a trader.
Yea, I do agree that some of these signals do work, but you know that they cannot always be 100 percent accurate, and there is going to be a point where they will make some mistake and shoot a signal that will not be correct and such signal could really damage the investment of such trader for life, especially those who are applying leveraging to their trade.

I would not say we should not give signal a try, but it is better we still have an understanding of analysis too, so that we can cross check the signal when we get any before we apply it to our trade. Most people that do go for signals are people that wishes to trade but do not have the time to read charts, but can still just briefly verify any signal they get for accuracy.