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Title: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: robresno on June 15, 2019, 03:45:45 AM
Let's say tomorrow there's a US law that any US person who gets caught with bitcoin server goes automatically to jail for lifetime.
And the 2400 US bitcoin nodes would go offline.
What would happen to price?
What would happen to hash power?
How long would it take to recover?
Let's speculate!


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: kotajikikox on June 15, 2019, 04:24:30 AM
Well if this happens.lets just think without bitcoin.lets just think that bitcoin doesn't exist.because we don't want to be in jail... We live before without bitcoin.. so without bitcoin life must go on.this is if us make bitcoin illegal.
But your asking what would happens to price if the government say bitcoin is illegal.well maybe bitcoin price will goes down.but let's us also think it is just one country and there's more country using bitcoin.if bitcoin make it more popular it doesn't matter if us makes bitcoin illegal.bitcoin can still go stronger and price will up and still have a big value.same us high power it doesn't matter if us make bitcoin illegal it doesn't affect us.
No needs to recover because bitcoin is stronger.
This is just my idea!


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on June 15, 2019, 04:50:05 AM
Casual investors will immediately drop BTC, same with institutional investors, most Bitcoin businesses would close. The only people left on the network in the US would be cypherpunks, criminals, and buyers of illegal services. On a global scale Bitcoin will suffer from a huge crash, easily 90-95%, because if the US would ban BTC, many other countries would follow. If the EU would also ban, it would effectively be a worldwide ban, because most of Bitcoin traffic comes from the West, and the West is very influential, plus eastern countries already don't like BTC and are talking about banning it.
Without enough hashpower Bitcoin would be easier to attack, which puts yet another instance of selling pressure on it.

In the end, Bitcoin will not die, because it''s decentralized and it can't be killed, but for most people it would be as good as dead, law-abiding citizens wouldn't want risk dealing with BTC.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: Msworld83 on June 15, 2019, 05:32:15 AM
This particular country has always be the major issue in the world , trying to control every thing on whose behalf, I just dont get the thing as for them to stay clear on their way and stop interfering in others business, they can put sanction on their citizens for some restriction , just like every other exchange trying to comply with their rules which I think is save for their citizens but they can't tag bitcoin has illegal.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: rosezionjohn on June 15, 2019, 05:52:18 AM
If that ever happens, I expect many to go underground. Some crypto enthusiasts might even migrate to other countries where bitcoin is legal. Traders will most likely dump their holdings also. I don't about hash power.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: Herbert2020 on June 15, 2019, 06:00:47 AM
since this is not something that can happen overnight, it would have no effects on the hashrate because if the miners feel threatened they will move their operation to another state or other places where such ridiculous laws don't apply.

as for price, it is drama so consequently price could fall because of it but like any other drama it will drop temporarily before it goes back on the same track and continues rising.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: TimeBits on June 15, 2019, 06:10:55 AM
This will happen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

People will not give them their bitcoin though, and they can`t come into your house and seize it without your password like they did in the past to gold.

What will happen is there will be a big revolution if they are stupid enough to do such a thing, like this moron suggest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnz2oo8MRas (notice the stumble at 7-8 seconds)

In other words, nothing will happen, people will just exchange it for other altcoins or other fiats and just p2p trade it if they ban the exchanges. If they start to jail people for free trading I am sure the people will start to take heads.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: Kakmakr on June 15, 2019, 06:34:40 AM
Well, it will definitely not mean that it would be the end of Bitcoin. The Tor network has been running for years now and it has been banned in a lot of countries.  :P  You cannot bring down a whole decentralized network by simply banning people from running a node, even if it means that the majority of that network is supported by people in one country.

I think it will be a blow to many smaller Alt coins, because it has a lot less nodes, but Bitcoin is simply too big with too many nodes to fail because of this type of actions.  :P


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: CryptoBry on June 15, 2019, 06:38:56 AM
Casual investors will immediately drop BTC, same with institutional investors, most Bitcoin businesses would close. The only people left on the network in the US would be cypherpunks, criminals, and buyers of illegal services. On a global scale Bitcoin will suffer from a huge crash, easily 90-95%, because if the US would ban BTC, many other countries would follow. If the EU would also ban, it would effectively be a worldwide ban, because most of Bitcoin traffic comes from the West, and the West is very influential, plus eastern countries already don't like BTC and are talking about banning it. Without enough hashpower Bitcoin would be easier to attack, which puts yet another instance of selling pressure on it.
In the end, Bitcoin will not die, because it''s decentralized and it can't be killed, but for most people it would be as good as dead, law-abiding citizens wouldn't want risk dealing with BTC.

Bitcoin can't die but what would be its use if most of the people who are into it right now will stop dealing with it? Virtually, it is going to be dead just like any good product that finds no critical size of a market. Now, using the scenario above, can we then conclude that the "life" of bitcoin is at the fingertips of the government? Though, of course, I don't expect the USA government to do what China did in 2017.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: fortunecrypto on June 15, 2019, 06:58:40 AM
Let's say tomorrow there's a US law that any US person who gets caught with bitcoin server goes automatically to jail for lifetime.
And the 2400 US bitcoin nodes would go offline.
What would happen to price?
What would happen to hash power?
How long would it take to recover?
Let's speculate!

There will be another country as strong as the US  that's gonna take over, maybe Japan or Canada, one's country's loss is another country's gain, we will see dump but knowing the Americans they will always find a way to get involved with cryptocurrency, but this thing is unlikely to happen.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: pushups44 on June 15, 2019, 07:10:24 AM
Let's say tomorrow there's a US law that any US person who gets caught with bitcoin server goes automatically to jail for lifetime.
And the 2400 US bitcoin nodes would go offline.
What would happen to price?
What would happen to hash power?
How long would it take to recover?
Let's speculate!

First off, this law would be challenged in the courts, so it would likely not be implemented any time soon. But assuming the law were somehow put into place and approved by Congress, it would have a severely negative effect on bitcoin in terms of price and network activity. There would be an underground market, obviously. I suspect most Americans would sell their bitcoin to the government or whoever is willing to buy it. Perhaps seeing the antagonism to bitcoin, China and Russia would consider it an alternative to the U.S. dollar, thus possibly offsetting the impact of American prohibition.

Bitcoin would still be around, however.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: goaldigger on June 15, 2019, 07:52:31 AM
Let's say tomorrow there's a US law that any US person who gets caught with bitcoin server goes automatically to jail for lifetime.
And the 2400 US bitcoin nodes would go offline.
What would happen to price?
What would happen to hash power?
How long would it take to recover?
Let's speculate!

US is a country with so much power and influence and im sure that its alliance also makes bitcoin illegal. It can be a main source for cryptocurrency extinction because the punishment is too much for a digital currency involvement. It will take about a year or two for its full obsoletion. Lets just hope it will not happen.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: michellee on June 15, 2019, 08:56:54 AM
Let's say tomorrow there's a US law that any US person who gets caught with bitcoin server goes automatically to jail for lifetime.
And the 2400 US bitcoin nodes would go offline.
What would happen to price?
What would happen to hash power?
How long would it take to recover?
Let's speculate!

I am not sure what happened to the price because the bitcoin price does not just move because of one action. It will move from what traders demand and supply. I think that will happen too with the hash power, maybe it will reduce for a while, but that will not affect to the most hash power because we know that the mining process is not just come from the US. There are many other countries will still mining bitcoin, and if the US make bitcoin illegal, we don't have to worry about that. The recover will always happen, but we don't know how long it will recover, and bitcoin does not depend on one or two countries but it depends on how people use bitcoin itself.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: Rufsilf on June 15, 2019, 11:23:31 AM
If that ever happens, I expect many to go underground. Some crypto enthusiasts might even migrate to other countries where bitcoin is legal. Traders will most likely dump their holdings also. I don't about hash power.

Yes that's right, traders or crypto user may either go underground or go to a place where bitcoin is useful. I think the one's who will drop their holdings are those who have fewer coins in their wallet but for those who have many may not dump their holding besides it still money, they might opt to exchange it to the accepted currency instead. Regarding the price it might impact bitcoin badly since US has a lot of crypto investors or users.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: stadus on June 15, 2019, 11:35:04 AM
It would certainly create some panic, but that is just a temporary panic.
I really don't see they will make it illegal as I believe they are pro crypto and this technology could help the economy of a certain country.

Bitcoin has been banned by some countries, but it's still here, kicking and alive, it dump and almost died but it recovers.
I guess BTC is one of the strongest investment due to its capability to recover in time in terms of value.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: iamverybusyperson on June 15, 2019, 11:45:47 AM
Demand fluctuates, but supply cannot adapt. This is fundamentally laid instability course. The speculators are good, the business is bad. The result is pitiable.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: omone1 on June 15, 2019, 12:20:23 PM
What will happen if US government chooses bitcoin as their reserve currency? And what will happen if US government advises all citizens to buy bitcoin and secure their future and that of their future? Well if what you say happens, I see many bitcoin either relocating from USA or adopting another country's citizenship. True, USA government will be pro bitcoin.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: xWolfx on June 15, 2019, 01:18:45 PM
If that ever happens, I expect many to go underground. Some crypto enthusiasts might even migrate to other countries where bitcoin is legal. Traders will most likely dump their holdings also. I don't about hash power.

Of course that will happen, especially in the U.S.

It was already proven with the alcohol prohibition in the 20s-30s. However, it would definitely affect price, volume, data and everything.

This makes me think that a Cyberpunk like situation could happen any moment in the future. Sounds fun.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: acroman08 on June 15, 2019, 02:05:02 PM
Let's say tomorrow there's a US law that any US person who gets caught with bitcoin server goes automatically to jail for lifetime.
And the 2400 US bitcoin nodes would go offline.
What would happen to price?
What would happen to hash power?
How long would it take to recover?
Let's speculate!

Price of bitcoin would crash since US has a huge influence on bitcoin's market and people would be panic selling creating a massive dump that would worsen the crash.

The Blocks produced per day will decrease. Here is a link about a similar topic where what if the hash rate drops. :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232325.0

It could take months for bitcoin to recover. but as long as there are miners to mine the blocks bitcoin will eventually recover.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: Shenzou on June 15, 2019, 02:22:51 PM
Let's say tomorrow there's a US law that any US person who gets caught with bitcoin server goes automatically to jail for lifetime.
And the 2400 US bitcoin nodes would go offline.
What would happen to price?
What would happen to hash power?
How long would it take to recover?
Let's speculate!
Assuming that bitcoin gets banned from the US it won't happen in a day or tow, people will have a notice before it does, and therefore i believe that between the time when the ban is announced and leading to the start of taking it into measure there will be a mayhem in the network , as all those coins and bitcoin that are owned by US resident start being moved, imagine how much bitcoin will be available to buy and that would mean that the supply will increase and that will actually affect the price in a bad way and we will see a high drop in it.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: Reatim on June 15, 2019, 02:25:31 PM
If does?then China will surely adopt Bitcoin and will be the main area where we can trade and mine this currency,because everything that will envy by US will be open arms accepted in China lol 😂

Hope this will never happen since EU and other big countries that support Bitcoin May end up withdrawing the support

What will happen if US government chooses bitcoin as their reserve currency? And what will happen if US government advises all citizens to buy bitcoin and secure their future and that of their future? Well if what you say happens, I see many bitcoin either relocating from USA or adopting another country's citizenship. True, USA government will be pro bitcoin.
That is different thing to discuss since that’s not the topic asked by OP,the other way around


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: amrulshare on June 15, 2019, 02:47:40 PM
that won't happen, for example China has banned some activities in the cryptocurrency space, but in reality there are still many people who own and act on Bitcoin. I think at this time cryptocurrency has had a great and potential view to make the general public more open to their own financial resources.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: BrewMaster on June 15, 2019, 02:57:06 PM
instead of focusing on what may or may not happen with some government that doesn't even concern you, it is better if you start learning more about bitcoin and its mission for decentralization and cutting off the hands of the middlemen who are always intruding in our financial matters and have their hand in our pockets.
then you will slowly realize that the answer to your question doesn't even matter.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: Payme21 on June 15, 2019, 03:49:51 PM
That indeed will be disastrous to the value of bitcoin but this coin has metamorphosed into something great which means it will take more than one country to halt its foreseeable growth


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on June 15, 2019, 04:13:21 PM
Now, using the scenario above, can we then conclude that the "life" of bitcoin is at the fingertips of the government? Though, of course, I don't expect the USA government to do what China did in 2017.

Yes, this is because Bitcoin is too small right now, it has very little users, so if the US would ban it, it will become a one more major reason to not adopt it in the first place. Bitcoin already has many flaws, like requirements to manage crypto keys, occasionally high fees, complicated interface, price instability - these things are preventing mass adoption, and a harsh ban would prevent it even more.
And currently the biggest use case for Bitcoin has always been trading, so being outlawed will effectively kill this use case.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: Genkotsu on June 15, 2019, 04:20:28 PM
US is the main country of this world and if Bitcoin illegal in there it means Bitcoin will have a big impact with price and reputation in the world.
let's we say if US is made Bitcoin illegal:
1. Price will have a drop so deep
2. Holder BTC on US sell all BTC
3. Reputation of BTC and cryptocurrency in the world is bad image
4. cryptocurrency slowly will die
i think that will happen if it true.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 15, 2019, 04:23:15 PM
instead of focusing on what may or may not happen with some government that doesn't even concern you, it is better if you start learning more about bitcoin and its mission for decentralization and cutting off the hands of the middlemen who are always intruding in our financial matters and have their hand in our pockets.
then you will slowly realize that the answer to your question doesn't even matter.
Nah! You cant really stop people on making those kind of what if situations which we can really able to see up the answer into this question if we do know thoroughly about bitcoins existence.Just to answer on topic,If US gov't make bitcoin as an illegal thing then it do really make some affects but not into the point that BTC will really crash hard.
It might decline its price but nothing can really stop into this innovative tech.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: Dontme on June 15, 2019, 04:29:39 PM
Let's say tomorrow there's a US law that any US person who gets caught with bitcoin server goes automatically to jail for lifetime.
And the 2400 US bitcoin nodes would go offline.
What would happen to price?
What would happen to hash power?
How long would it take to recover?
Let's speculate!
If the US will make bitcoin illegal then obviously bitcoin`s price will get low, as we know US have the most users of bitcoin. You can`t expect that bitcoin  could recover easily if US people can`t use bitcoin maybe it would take 20 years or more.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: BitHodler on June 15, 2019, 08:03:23 PM
instead of focusing on what may or may not happen with some government that doesn't even concern you, it is better if you start learning more about bitcoin and its mission for decentralization and cutting off the hands of the middlemen who are always intruding in our financial matters and have their hand in our pockets.
then you will slowly realize that the answer to your question doesn't even matter.
OP probably doesn't care one bit because most newbies are fully invested in shitcoins they don't bother to withdraw from exchanges such as Binance. It's not for nothing that Binance holds over $10 billion in user funds.

I do like it that newbies ask questions similar to these because that's what average joes think about when it concerns Bitcoin. How and what if governments start banning it? I noticed this around me as well.

There are various phases people have to go through in order to appreciate what Bitcoin is.

# buying altcoins and realizing they're shit.
# investing in ICO/IEOs and lose a lot of money.
# get trolled by their bank or government.

Maybe I'm missing another phase, but you get the point.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: thesmallgod on June 15, 2019, 08:24:01 PM
It amazing how people imagination works. you didn't speculate on how btc will rise if it gain adoption by the giant US companies and to make matter worse, people having to go to jail for holding bitcoin. Do you really think such thing can work like that. Just binance alone announced that they want to remove all USA users and there are already tons of noize everywhere about binance wanna block every US citizen attempting to use the platform. Bitcoin already got massive adoption by many big US own business. They can not ban but rather continue to impose regulations. you can stop dreaming ;D


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: pixie85 on June 15, 2019, 09:39:30 PM
It's impossible because this is not how a judicial system works. Nothing happens overnight and you can't expect a bill to be passed and executed tomorrow. A normal ban would take months of voting and a controversial bill of a lifetime imprisonment for possession of some illegal goods would meet heavy resistance and take much more.

Even if it would pass all traders would have months if not years to get out of the country and take their coins with them.


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: oseikuf44 on June 15, 2019, 11:08:40 PM
Most ICOs, STO and other crypto projects don't accept US residents, yet we had a lot of coins that has been successful without US residents. The same thing applies if the government make Bitcoin illegal in US. However, the Investors will panic sell and will make the price of Bitcoins  drop due to the oversupply than demand .


Title: Re: What would happen if US government made Bitcoin illegal?
Post by: creeps on June 15, 2019, 11:58:57 PM
Let's say tomorrow there's a US law that any US person who gets caught with bitcoin server goes automatically to jail for lifetime.
And the 2400 US bitcoin nodes would go offline.
What would happen to price?
What would happen to hash power?
How long would it take to recover?
Let's speculate!
US has the big impact in cryptomarket, and the price of bitcoin will dumped for sure its a total disaster and many hodlers will panic, and we can see the real bottom of bitcoin even if its being backed up by many countries. The price can recover in indefinite time and no one can say when, but hoping for this not to happen because bitcoin deserve a better nation to stay for.