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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: Cean on June 17, 2019, 04:11:24 PM



Title: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: Cean on June 17, 2019, 04:11:24 PM
So I was trying to buy an AWS SES account from this so called James faggot. He refused to use an escrow because he was hooked up in an escrow. I did not believe it but anyway. I checked the account I was going to buy via TW. It seemed fine and real.

I offered him that I would send 1/2 of money first and he was supposed to give me account and I was going to send the rest. He accepted it but later refused to send the account and refund.

Scammer's profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2607828
His thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146278
His Skype: servicecom217

Scammed me $22.5 ETH.

I can post Skype conversations here if required. Please tag this user.

TX: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x554a39c7ed0b8b108a7a9a4c415ad6887357f648d6ff55ca5f989eb42504805e

Proof: https://streamable.com/26q9c


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on June 17, 2019, 06:53:40 PM
Provide proper proof & I’ll tag him.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: akamit on June 17, 2019, 07:11:16 PM
He refused to use an escrow because he was hooked up in an escrow.
What do you mean by "hooked up in an escrow" and if the seller refused to use escrow then it's a red flag, you should have ignored the seller.

Anyway, sorry to hear about your loss... Post the TX and skype chat to make your accusation with concrete evidence.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: Cean on June 17, 2019, 07:51:41 PM
Provide proper proof & I’ll tag him.

TX: https://etherscan.io/tx/0x554a39c7ed0b8b108a7a9a4c415ad6887357f648d6ff55ca5f989eb42504805e

Proof: https://streamable.com/26q9c


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on June 17, 2019, 11:38:47 PM
I can post Skype conversations here if required. Please tag this user.
Tags are old news now. Use flags instead. Create a new flag against him from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=2607828 Since you're the direct victim, you can select the option 3 flag. Do that, and I'll support it. Attach skype conversations for proof.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: Cean on June 17, 2019, 11:55:19 PM
I can post Skype conversations here if required. Please tag this user.
Tags are old news now. Use flags instead. Create a new flag against him from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=2607828 Since you're the direct victim, you can select the option 3 flag. Do that, and I'll support it. Attach skype conversations for proof.
Thank you for informing and support. I created a flag, as you mentioned and referenced this topic.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on June 18, 2019, 12:01:02 AM
I can post Skype conversations here if required. Please tag this user.
Tags are old news now. Use flags instead. Create a new flag against him from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=2607828 Since you're the direct victim, you can select the option 3 flag. Do that, and I'll support it. Attach skype conversations for proof.
Thank you for informing and support. I created a flag, as you mentioned and referenced this topic.
Grand. I've checked the video and he seems like he is happy scamming you. On the basis of the Skype account mentioned in his thread and in your video, it's safe to assume you're talking with the same guy and I supported the flag. I hope DT members support your flag too.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: Qservices on June 18, 2019, 05:07:02 AM
This is rubbish, why cant you guys think a bit, did you ask him what he is trying to do too me as well? i get scammed trusting people to pay me half of my service and after deliver the service they close me up. i ask him to complete my pay if i did not deliver then go a head to do whatever he likes, if i may ask did you guys know his intention to me ? no but you supported him been lousy over 22$ he is such a big fool. my trusted clients still believe me and has trust in my services. you have done your worse next time you guys has to borrow some sense , ask the accuser first before causing or wasting time posting rubbish on peoples post


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 18, 2019, 05:14:05 AM
This is rubbish, why cant you guys think a bit, did you ask him what he is trying to do too me as well? i get scammed trusting people to pay me half of my service and after deliver the service they close me up. i ask him to complete my pay if i did not deliver then go a head to do whatever he likes, if i may ask did you guys know his intention to me ? no but you supported him been lousy over 22$ he is such a big fool. my trusted clients still believe me and has trust in my services. you have done your worse next time you guys has to borrow some sense , ask the accuser first before causing or wasting time posting rubbish on peoples post

You have a total of 10 posts, 9 activity as I post this...

Ill point out: your only rebuttal is a vague statement about "trusted clients"?

I see evidence from him and nothing from you.....
An agreement is an agreement;  no amount of talking can change that at this point.


Try to do better to defend yourself.  I am leaning towards siding with the complainant; even before I hear what you have to say further at this point.  But ill give you the benefit of the doubt.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: akamit on June 18, 2019, 06:06:15 AM
This is rubbish, why cant you guys think a bit, did you ask him what he is trying to do too me as well? i get scammed trusting people to pay me half of my service and after deliver the service they close me up. i ask him to complete my pay if i did not deliver then go a head to do whatever he likes, if i may ask did you guys know his intention to me ? no but you supported him been lousy over 22$ he is such a big fool. my trusted clients still believe me and has trust in my services. you have done your worse next time you guys has to borrow some sense , ask the accuser first before causing or wasting time posting rubbish on peoples post
Those who supported the flag can still withdraw if you are able to convince them with your part of the story, of course with evidence.

If you have evidence then put it in this thread as soon as possible before 3 DT members support the flag.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: sowns on June 18, 2019, 06:15:07 AM
This is rubbish, why cant you guys think a bit, did you ask him what he is trying to do too me as well? i get scammed trusting people to pay me half of my service and after deliver the service they close me up. i ask him to complete my pay if i did not deliver then go a head to do whatever he likes, if i may ask did you guys know his intention to me ? no but you supported him been lousy over 22$ he is such a big fool. my trusted clients still believe me and has trust in my services. you have done your worse next time you guys has to borrow some sense , ask the accuser first before causing or wasting time posting rubbish on peoples post
Those who supported the flag can still withdraw if you are able to convince them with your part of the story, of course with evidence.

If you have evidence then put it in this thread as soon as possible before 3 DT members support the flag.
Now I’m curious, is this because you can’t delete a flag after 3 DT supports? Is that stated anywhere because something like that seems important. Or is that just an arbitrary deadline you setup(not criticizing btw)?


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: akamit on June 18, 2019, 06:52:49 AM
This is rubbish, why cant you guys think a bit, did you ask him what he is trying to do too me as well? i get scammed trusting people to pay me half of my service and after deliver the service they close me up. i ask him to complete my pay if i did not deliver then go a head to do whatever he likes, if i may ask did you guys know his intention to me ? no but you supported him been lousy over 22$ he is such a big fool. my trusted clients still believe me and has trust in my services. you have done your worse next time you guys has to borrow some sense , ask the accuser first before causing or wasting time posting rubbish on peoples post
Those who supported the flag can still withdraw if you are able to convince them with your part of the story, of course with evidence.

If you have evidence then put it in this thread as soon as possible before 3 DT members support the flag.
Now I’m curious, is this because you can’t delete a flag after 3 DT supports? Is that stated anywhere because something like that seems important. Or is that just an arbitrary deadline you setup(not criticizing btw)?
Sorry if I've misguided you... Afaik the support can be withdrawn any time.

What I wrote in my previous post was in response to Qservices post, Yes, you can say arbitrary deadline.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: Cean on June 18, 2019, 01:28:29 PM
This is rubbish, why cant you guys think a bit, did you ask him what he is trying to do too me as well? i get scammed trusting people to pay me half of my service and after deliver the service they close me up. i ask him to complete my pay if i did not deliver then go a head to do whatever he likes, if i may ask did you guys know his intention to me ? no but you supported him been lousy over 22$ he is such a big fool. my trusted clients still believe me and has trust in my services. you have done your worse next time you guys has to borrow some sense , ask the accuser first before causing or wasting time posting rubbish on peoples post
Refund it then if you think I am going to scam you, faggot. Rubbish kid.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: Cean on June 19, 2019, 12:19:07 PM
Why don’t DT members support the flag?...


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on June 20, 2019, 06:38:35 PM
Why don’t DT members support the flag?...

You need to update your topic with the flag link. This is the flag link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=227

So far including me two DT sported it. If I am not wrong then you will need one more support and I am sure you will get it. I am going to leave a negative feedback for this scammer too.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: akamit on June 20, 2019, 06:44:07 PM
Supported!

I had asked Qservices to tell his part of the story and to provide evidence against the OP to prove himself honest, but it seems he doesn't have anything.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: LoyceV on June 20, 2019, 07:25:55 PM
I was asked to give my opinion on this matter.

First: I find it very hard to take an accusation seriously when someone talks like this:
Son of a bitch so called James! Fuck your mothers life.
this so called James faggot.
faggot. Rubbish kid.

I tried anyway :)
Proof: https://streamable.com/26q9c
This is a very long and chaotic way to do business. It's like: one guy says "Bro that's my policy" and the other guy says "Ok bro", and it goes on and on and on.
A proper way to make a deal, is creating one post in the appropriate thread to confirm all details, after which the other party quotes it and confirms the details.

Now it goes like "i send you 1/2 of btc,k you give me account, i send you the rest", then 3 minutes later asks: "eth address please", followed by much more messages, some misunderstanding about what was expected to be bought, and then OP starts with "son of bitch" and "Motherfucker".
It's terrible to read the entire thing from a video, OP can you post a transcript?

Based on what I've seen so far, without transcript:
My suggestion (in this order!)
1. Cean: post a refund addy. Post it here, in public, in this thread.
2. Qservices: refund Cean.
3. Both: learn how to do business. Make clear requests, don't send 500 messages about something this small, and put all requirements in 1 post. Don't do business together again.
4. All who left red trust or supported a flag: remove the tag, stop supporting the flag.
5. Cean: lock this thread.
(After reading a decent transcript I might still change this)

Remember theymos' suggestion: de-escalate and forgive!

Update: current flag:
Quote
2019-06-20 Thu 21.22h
source: loyce.club (http://loyce.club/trust/flags/20.html)
227 Active. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=227) Cean (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=756570) flagged Qservices (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2607828) (type 3, see why (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155321.0)). Supported by LFC_Bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=379487), bones261 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=452769), Pamoldar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=662330), Joel_Jantsen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=560412), akamit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=782831), Cean (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=756570), actisstupidname (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1794966). Opposed by nobody.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: bitbollo on June 20, 2019, 07:36:32 PM
well... a newbie with a lot of clients, and just 10 posts (!) without any previous feedback, sounds a bit strange to me :) ... moreover he is off line since 18 june ... and all activity was around 1 month here.

if it's true the first part of the history (agreement for 1/2 payment => delivery of item => 1/2 payment) it's a pure scam attempt ask a full payment ;) after receiving the first payment.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on June 20, 2019, 07:37:06 PM
Thanks for posting in here Loyce.

Agree with everything there. I will stop supporting the flag & remove my neg when I see the refund has been done.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: akamit on June 20, 2019, 07:39:51 PM
I had given 2 days to Qservices to prove himself honest, but he didn't write anything... so today I decided to support the flag and leave a negative rating.

If Qservices refund to Cean then I'll withdraw the support for flag.
But removing my negative rating, not sure yet because there is something needed to warn future potential victims? Please advise?


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: Cean on June 20, 2019, 08:11:59 PM
Thank you for the support, everyone! It does not recover my loss but still, it is of course a thing.

@LoyceV, well, sorry for being rude in the post but I couldn't stay calm when that kid was laughing on the line. I don't think he will refund it at all because I have already sent him the refund address and he requested me to send the rest so that he could refund (like, really?) He didn't blocked me still, though.

You could have read the messages easily by pausing the video. I wanted to post full chat and thought video was the best option to demonstrate.


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: Qservices on June 21, 2019, 03:59:35 AM
let the negative flag be remove now


Title: Re: Qservices scammer kid
Post by: JaredKaragen on June 21, 2019, 04:44:48 AM
let the negative flag be remove now

Added my support.... seems like there's enough evidence to me; and no actual defense by the accused.

Seems that put the flag to active.

You are welcome Qservices.