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Title: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: idreamin3d on June 18, 2019, 08:35:24 AM
I'm part of a team working on a sports betting site and we're about to go into beta testing and we need proper feedback from real users. Would it be against community etiquette to post a beta site here?


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: panjul07 on June 18, 2019, 08:39:00 AM
AFAK there is no specific rules about a pre-launch site to have a thread in this board. As long as your site is a site that will accept bitcoin as the payment method then it is OK to open a thread here for pre-launch feedback. There are some other sites which were in BETA when they created a thread in this board, so I guess it is OK for you to do pre-launch beta thread.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: idreamin3d on June 18, 2019, 09:16:31 AM
Thanks. Yes, the site accepts bitcoin payments. Just had to make sure we weren't about to go against guidelines.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: AB de Royse777 on June 18, 2019, 09:46:13 AM
I think you need to create a new topic in the Project Development (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0) section. Create a discussion topic and keep the community updated there. You will also find good suggestion from knowledgeable forum users.

Good luck.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: idreamin3d on June 18, 2019, 10:37:16 AM
Thanks for the guidance


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: ralle14 on June 18, 2019, 10:58:34 AM
Yes you can post it, I remember a gambling site (lottery) with no house edge few months ago that was or still in BETA and they didn't accept deposits. It was available for everyone to try since all of their accounts are credited with play money.  


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: idreamin3d on June 18, 2019, 02:02:45 PM
Yes you can post it, I remember a gambling site (lottery) with no house edge few months ago that was or still in BETA and they didn't accept deposits. It was available for everyone to try since all of their accounts are credited with play money.  
Thanks. Do you think it would be more appropriate here or on the Project Development board?


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: DarkDays on June 19, 2019, 10:10:53 PM
Of course, though don't expect many people to risk their money on a brand new site unless you're from a well known development team.

I'd recommend running a bug testing bounty to iron out any major issues before even going to beta though.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: numanoid on June 19, 2019, 10:51:41 PM
Thanks. Do you think it would be more appropriate here or on the Project Development board?
On here (gambling section). Since your site is a sport betting and you accept bitcoin as your payment, it should be ok. You can also get more viewer from this board since there are lot of gamblers on here.



Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: nakamura12 on June 19, 2019, 11:06:00 PM
I'm part of a team working on a sports betting site and we're about to go into beta testing and we need proper feedback from real users. Would it be against community etiquette to post a beta site here?
It happened already where a team posted their site in here to received feedback from people who are willing to give their feedback and if there is a bug/issue with their site that is still in beta of course. You can also do it too just post it in the right board to start discussing about it.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: dark08 on June 19, 2019, 11:06:37 PM
Yes you can post it even if its in beta mode maybe you should insert the link of your site to check if theres some bug or error then we can comment it to immediately fix or make a bounty for finding bugs and error this will easily make your site faster to fix error and in other scenario it bring attraction to the gambler.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: harizen on June 19, 2019, 11:33:30 PM
Thanks. Do you think it would be more appropriate here or on the Project Development board?

Since it will now be on BETA LIVE, you can post it here in this section.

When is the pre-launch?

Any ETA's?


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: bittraffic on June 20, 2019, 02:08:29 AM

Why not? You're not the only who thought of it. AS early as possible, market and advertise your site. This is a discussionboard for gambling related anyway so as long as its a gambling site, users will check it.  Just make sure you don't insert your link at every post somehow, it can be considered an abuse. If I have a site I would also be posting it before its even done to ask for suggestions.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: avikz on June 20, 2019, 03:22:41 AM
I'm part of a team working on a sports betting site and we're about to go into beta testing and we need proper feedback from real users. Would it be against community etiquette to post a beta site here?

It's great that you are actually seeking feedback from the real users and letting us know that the website is in beta testing! We have had many examples where people have copy pasted FAQ from other websites and forgot to delete that name and started a full fledged website.

Bring it on! There is no specific rule for that!


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: btcsmlcmnr on June 20, 2019, 04:55:37 AM
Personally, I think you can post it here, or in the board, Project Development.
I think you need to create a new topic in the Project Development (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0) section.
However, if you post it here, you should notice on the following rule:
One thread per site ONLY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39621.0). It means if you make a thread for your site's prelaunch here, later when your site officially launch, you have to edit that OP to be fitted with official site, rather than creating a new thread, that will violate forum rule.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: idreamin3d on June 20, 2019, 05:29:19 AM
Personally, I think you can post it here, or in the board, Project Development.
I think you need to create a new topic in the Project Development (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=12.0) section.
However, if you post it here, you should notice on the following rule:
One thread per site ONLY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=39621.0). It means if you make a thread for your site's prelaunch here, later when your site officially launch, you have to edit that OP to be fitted with official site, rather than creating a new thread, that will violate forum rule.
Thanks. I'll keep this in mind.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: idreamin3d on June 20, 2019, 05:31:34 AM
I'm part of a team working on a sports betting site and we're about to go into beta testing and we need proper feedback from real users. Would it be against community etiquette to post a beta site here?

It's great that you are actually seeking feedback from the real users and letting us know that the website is in beta testing! We have had many examples where people have copy pasted FAQ from other websites and forgot to delete that name and started a full fledged website.

Bring it on! There is no specific rule for that!

Yeah, it's more important to us to have a product that we are sure people like than just popping out what we assume people will like. Meetings and focus groups can only get you so far.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: LimLims on June 20, 2019, 05:40:34 AM
Yes you can.
The best thing is that,  allow your users to test the site with some test coins and get awesome feedback from them.
Moreover you need to make sure that,  the site will accept BTC in the future, as here only the site's with BTC as their currency gets a slot.
And the most important thing is that,  you should break any rules by any means.
Else your thread will be marked spam and will be removed.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: electronicash on June 20, 2019, 05:46:09 AM

to make people try your casino, you have to give each account a free spin, an honest review will be given when you do that. almost a general rule actually. your site is in beta and these suggestions will help you develop it further. if you're aspiring for real honest review multiple spin i guess :)  couldn't be more grateful.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: leea-1334 on June 20, 2019, 07:03:01 AM
I think people do this all the time,,, so go ahead and post it. As everyone here says though, people need to test out the gambling itself to give feedback. My suggestion though is to give people "free" balance to test it,,, not a faucet. Faucet and actual coins should only be for proper launch. Just give them like "site coins" and let them use it and when site launches convert it to real satoshi or doge or whatever.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: Haunebu on June 20, 2019, 07:21:40 AM
your site is in beta and these suggestions will help you develop it further. if you're aspiring for real honest review multiple spin i guess :)  couldn't be more grateful.
A single spin is enough for an honest review in my opinion. Multiple spins would be better, but you need to keep op's budget in mind before making such a request. If his budget is high, multiple spins should be provided.

My suggestion though is to give people "free" balance to test it,,, not a faucet. Faucet and actual coins should only be for proper launch.
Why? Faucet is a good way to help people gamble with real money which is why it is much better than gambling with test balance in this aspect. If op has no problem providing a faucet in this case, he should go right ahead.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: GreatArkansas on June 20, 2019, 07:52:15 AM
My suggestion though is to give people "free" balance to test it,,, not a faucet. Faucet and actual coins should only be for proper launch.
Why? Faucet is a good way to help people gamble with real money which is why it is much better than gambling with test balance in this aspect. If op has no problem providing a faucet in this case, he should go right ahead.
The owner could try that, like on testnet only of Bitcoin. The owner of the website can use the bitcoin testnet for the BETA only.
For me, the better way is to give all users starting free starting balance or a bonus for every first deposit on the website.
Since the owner wants feedbacks from real users, the owner can also start a paid campaign for those BETA testers that will participate. Just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: mirakal on June 20, 2019, 08:28:51 AM
We would love to give an honest feedback with your site, you won't be breaking any rules if you will post your new sportsbook here just for the purpose of seeking feedback. I believe you are in the right place, there's a lot of sports gambling enthusiast here, you'll surely get some valuable feedback.  :D



Thanks. Yes, the site accepts bitcoin payments. Just had to make sure we weren't about to go against guidelines.

Would be nice if you add other payment option, bitcoin transaction fee is kinda expensive nowadays if you want to confirm it faster.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: idreamin3d on June 20, 2019, 09:08:15 AM
My suggestion though is to give people "free" balance to test it,,, not a faucet. Faucet and actual coins should only be for proper launch.
Why? Faucet is a good way to help people gamble with real money which is why it is much better than gambling with test balance in this aspect. If op has no problem providing a faucet in this case, he should go right ahead.
The owner could try that, like on testnet only of Bitcoin. The owner of the website can use the bitcoin testnet for the BETA only.
For me, the better way is to give all users starting free starting balance or a bonus for every first deposit on the website.
Since the owner wants feedbacks from real users, the owner can also start a paid campaign for those BETA testers that will participate. Just my 2 cents.
This is the current plan. Bonus on initial deposits. The problem is that we also offer no-registration bets, so I'm not sure how we'll regulate the bonus in those cases.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: kingpin4321 on June 20, 2019, 09:34:26 AM
Why don't you check the forum rules and regulations completely going through it and you might not need to ask this sort of questions and prevent future occurrence.
I might not be on beta or have an account but as far as the rules goes there is nothing I have seen that the forum is against it


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: Cacingkemi on June 20, 2019, 10:53:16 AM
This is the current plan. Bonus on initial deposits. The problem is that we also offer no-registration bets, so I'm not sure how we'll regulate the bonus in those cases.
Can make bets without registering, you can give a bonus option on the initial bet which is basically the same as creating an account on your site. If you're confused then you must be make a free bet promotion if someone have made 10x bets or 100x bets depending on how your give it, the same addy crypto wallet will get it. My advice is to look at the previous site Michelle.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: kryptqnick on June 20, 2019, 10:58:20 AM
Thanks. Yes, the site accepts bitcoin payments. Just had to make sure we weren't about to go against guidelines.
Some people make threads for their casinos in beta-version here. I saw someone giving you the advice to post it in Project Development, but I think that posting it in Gambling is fine, because it is indeed a topic for gambling, and there'll be more gamblers hanging out here than there. Just make a thread, people will check it out and give feedback. A small faucet to test out the games would be nice, of course.
One thing you should keep in mind is that if I'm not mistaken there's this one thread per company rule. You can make the ANN thread for the casino but first, post the beta version, and then edit that same thread when the improved version is ready. I am just not sure how it works with beta-versions. And in this case, you might want to reserve a post or two right after the first one (so, you make a thread by making the first post in it, and then you make one or two replies in this thread and write 'Reserved' in them).


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: idreamin3d on June 20, 2019, 11:19:45 AM
Thanks. Yes, the site accepts bitcoin payments. Just had to make sure we weren't about to go against guidelines.
Some people make threads for their casinos in beta-version here. I saw someone giving you the advice to post it in Project Development, but I think that posting it in Gambling is fine, because it is indeed a topic for gambling, and there'll be more gamblers hanging out here than there. Just make a thread, people will check it out and give feedback. A small faucet to test out the games would be nice, of course.
One thing you should keep in mind is that if I'm not mistaken there's this one thread per company rule. You can make the ANN thread for the casino but first, post the beta version, and then edit that same thread when the improved version is ready. I am just not sure how it works with beta-versions. And in this case, you might want to reserve a post or two right after the first one (so, you make a thread by making the first post in it, and then you make one or two replies in this thread and write 'Reserved' in them).
Thanks. This is helpful.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: harizen on June 20, 2019, 11:23:51 AM
This is the current plan. Bonus on initial deposits. The problem is that we also offer no-registration bets, so I'm not sure how we'll regulate the bonus in those cases.

Since no account is being made, then they can't initiate a deposit. Therefore, no bonus. Include that on the terms. Or just give them perks/rewards/points or whatever you want to call it depends on the numbers of winning bets they made by the same BTC address (withdrawals).

To summarize:

-The deposit bonus will only be applied to those who opted to register on the site as obviously, they will have access to the deposit page.
-Those bets that will be made via no-registration will also have a sort of rewards (earnings points) depends on their made winnings (verification via used BTC address as withdrawal).

Just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: shield132 on June 20, 2019, 11:26:25 AM
I'm part of a team working on a sports betting site and we're about to go into beta testing and we need proper feedback from real users. Would it be against community etiquette to post a beta site here?
Depends on what kind of beta. One man here opened slots website without slot and stated that they were in beta mode, hope you don't mean such case. If your website is ready and you just want to get more tests from community, then no problem to my mind. If you'll include some rewards during beta, for example free satoshies, this will cause positive give you positive view from community and more customers will try to test your beta.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: beerlover on June 20, 2019, 04:06:32 PM
I guess this is kind of the place, there is also gambling discussion which you can open but I am not sure if it will get enough attention there. Of course, it all depends on what the mods think about the topic, if they think that this place is not the right place and move it then they can send it to gambling discussion but if they do not mind it staying here then you can open any topic here.

If you want there is nothing stopping you from starting a topic about something totally irrelevant about gambling as well and as long as mods don't move it then it will be here, however mods would definitely move something irrelevant to gambling. So, your only option now is to open a topic here, give us all the information you have and show us the concept in general and we will review it until mods decide if it will stay or not.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: Ucy on June 20, 2019, 05:22:18 PM
Not at all.
 But If you are going to pay users for feedback then the proper place to do that is on the forum "Service Section" else this is probably the right place to get the feedbacks.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: The Cryptovator on June 20, 2019, 05:38:34 PM
I don't think this is aginst forum rules is this is crypto related. But you should be careful about lose of user. User shouldn't lose their fund due to mistakes of your website. Perhaps you might give them demo account with balance so they could test only and fund could not withdraw. Or you could run bug bounty like suggested by other users.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: winspiral on June 20, 2019, 05:40:51 PM
My sites are always in "BETA" and it is so since 1990 or so...
and it works perfectly.


Title: Re: Can a site in BETA be posted here for pre-launch feedback?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on June 21, 2019, 03:46:54 AM
Where are the details including the website for your beta/pre-launch? You should be specific about this, if you want people to test your site for free or give us a paid-trial and demo version.
Is https://spirebets.com/ the website you are working with? I saw it on your profile so I'm guessing that's the website.