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Lyft, Pinterest, Zoom, Uber… these are the big names went to IPOs recently.
It seems IPOs are roaring back, especially compared with the freezing winter for ICOs.
SophonEX uses data to study whether the winter will also appear for IPOs, and shall we invest in these initial offerings? If so, how?

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Your choices since its your own funds to be used on investing into these things. IPO's,ICO,IEO's all of them are just overpriced.
Don't know what the actual basis on each token price they are offering.

When investing in startups you are not paying for current revenues but for growth expectations. Do you expect these companies to have a massive growth in the next years? If that's the case they might not be as overpriced as you think.

bottom line is that, all offerings (IPO or ICO) are based on speculations and you know things that rely on speculations have two ways - go right or wrong. I think some many IPOs were given too much undue attention and hype (Uber is a typical example).

It only becomes an overpriced IPO’s if you don’t see the worth of the company, and for sure that price also approved by the regulating body. If you think IPO is overpriced then better to wait for the exchange listing and do invest after that, two way for that company to move either to go up or to go down, its really a matter of choice and trust with the company.

overpriced or not depend on projects quality.if we have understand current projects have good quality ofcourse we will pay more on it.don't ever expecting we will get cheap price on good projects in IEO.market agree in which price they will paid for it.

Initial offerings are not over priced because every project has its set target and based on these goals, price are set for the various phases for token sales. It becomes unfortunate if a coin drops in ICO, STO, or IEO price after listing and never show signs of rising to surpass that price. This is why investors must study the project well before joining in order to know the capabilities and potentials of the project.

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they are not overpriced but ico's are infact have a cheap starting price  .they have alot of bonuses and the bonuses differ at a given time frame . the earlier you invest , the more bonuses you will get but the later you invest the lesser the bonus you will get ( vice versa )  . 

the price of the ico coin only becomes expensive or over priced after the ico have been succesfully ended or if the coin has already been listed on an online exchange .

Just compare the situation we had back in 2015 and 2016, to the one we have right now. Anyone remember the Ethereum ICO of 2015? Back then the product (Ethereum token) was finalized and most of the development was complete before they went for the ICO. And they had priced it very competitively, with the hard cap set at around $18 million. On the other hand many of the ICOs nowadays have their hard caps set above $100 million. And the biggest joke is that many of them are yet to start any development. All they have, is an idea.

Yeah this one talks real. This is the reality project nowadays is more on papers but does not have development in the process. Which means that most ICO projects are still subject for improving and this is why ICO projects needs more time before investors will be able to profit.

IPO is indeed overpriced, but ICO/IEO is way more overpriced. Let's say a stock has 10x P/E Ratio. It means that you will get $ 1 for every $ 10 that you spent. Let's assume no capital gain, and P/E stays the same; then you will need ten years to recoup the dollars you spent.

Meanwhile, for ICO/IEO, P/E Ratio would be more than 1,000x *lol

We are in a really weird time where companies that don't even turn a profit are worth a lot of money.  Because Amazon was successful with this strategy all these other companies get overvalued.  Going public is just a way for the owners to cash out easily, I would much rather stay a private company if I actually cared about doing good and not just money.

I don't think that any of these companies would ever make an ICO so I can't see any correlation of those two.
Those companies was just in search for funding and IPOs seemed to be the best solution for them

The big name companies moving into cryptocurrency are using their good names to acrue that big funds, they have enough money in the bank to back it up but if you observed most recent startup in cryptocurrency, they now raised fund below $10m. IMO its a level of correction in the space recently and it doesnt mean that the company wont succeed. It is though important to have capacity to make big volume trade daily in big exchange, we will also need to consider the percentage of the hardcap traded.

The reality with ethereum is completely different compared to the rest of the altcoins that follow as well gets developed on other platforms. Ethereum has got the perfect funding team that kept every development progress and came out with the perfect product. What's been said is true, there are lot of ideas and some are truly unique. When such ideas are given support truly that'll succeed. In most cases the project gets dropped which is lack of funding, even there are assets in the top list that lacked funding and further progress in development carried out after break.

If you are truly an investor, of course you wanted to spread your eggs and not just put everything in one basket. For me, every market will have to at least suffer some winter not just in crypto, but one thing is for sure, whatever the side of your company is, if you really wanted to grow then you will really need to go to his IPO/ICO and offering something in return to the public. That's how the market works and that is the established business model that everyone has followed.

If these crowdfunding methods are overpriced, then the demand within investors will simply be less.

That's how the price mechanism works, and I don't see a problem with offerings setting their own price, even if it overvalues their securities/tokens, because there will simply be less demand for it.

I think though that a lot of the investors right now in all forms of initial offerings are probably putting too much trust in vaporware and completely unregulated, and completely theoretical ideas and all that, due to the speculative nature of them - but I expect as the market matures, people realizing that certain unfounded offerings are not a sustainable investment option.

I think it depends on how long a company has been operational. The ICO's are VERY overpriced because we are talking about something that is on idea stage and some of them are even just technical without any execution, tell me how many coins we have seen so far that basically told you an idea, got funded and then created a coin with the technological background and that was it, nothing more was done, maybe developers developed the coin a bit more but that is it, you couldn't even use it anywhere. That is why ICO's are of course a lot more overpriced than the lyfts and ubers of this world because those things actually got funding from people on their series a-b-c-d or whatever levels and then they went fully operational to a Goliath in a business which afterwards they had an IPO, they were already big when the IPO happened.

Some time initial offering or IEO have over priced but many time IEO coin have lower price how ever great or best exchange it self, last time we know about IEO of matic coin have lower price after active for trading on exchange.

As far as my experienced joining ICO's before? I would say yes they've indeed overprice themselves. And I think this is one contributory factor to the downturn of most ICO's of today.

They initially thought that there are demands, unfortunately when everything is set, listing on exchanges etc etc, the price just died naturally and not even hitting its supposedly market price.

i do not even know what are the basis of pricing of this initial offerings
i guess it will really depend on the solidity of the project that can make you see potential
and future growth in value.

You're investing with the hope you're going to make future profit if the companies grows later on. So it's up to you, if the company is offering something you think it's in popular demand, it's up to you to go for it and invest since you're sure that it is going to grow and you will gain from it. But if it happens to be a failure, then you will be sorry for yourself since you're going to end up with loss. So I don't think they are overpriced, they set their price that they are comfortable with, you buy it if you can afford it and wait for increase.

understanding projects will help to us ,it is worthed to pay more on its price.market will decided the token price already expensive or cheap based on developtment and product delivery from team.so we could to say its overprice or not.

projects quality will be the decision key for investors.i see many Initial offering price in market could give high return to investors, and on high price there are still many people buy it.so in my opinion if this thing happen its not overpriced yet.

There's still lots of people who's taking the chance especially when the Initial offering came from reputable exchanges, investors followed the project and
rushing to buy in, hoping that the price /value will rise high after the sale got finished and start being listed and traded to sponsor exchange.

Yes. There are currently some bad projects and very bad policies. They can use a little money to get quite good exchange such as IDAX, Coineal to be notified of IEO on their trading platform.
then, the project takes advantage of the hot level of IEO and evaluates its business higher than usual.
New investors often do not learn and prefer to invest heavily in such projects, resulting in heavy losses.

If you have no funding at all and you only have an idea and a website asking for funding for a marketcap of 100 million then I hope that coin gets nothing at all.

You HAVE TO have a bit of funding and you have to develop a coin a bit before it all starts, ethereum did it the right way, if you lack funding and you can't finish the project then you may be just doing the right thing by stopping, if you had a great idea and an awesome concept with a lot of free work (just coding, designing, marketing etc) then you can build a perfect plan for a coin in 1 week, however if you only have an idea and want to be funded to hire your coders and designers etc then you basically have zero.

These are the reasons, I still support the times when coins just didn't exist one day then they published the wallet and existed the next day, that is how it used to be and that is how it should be, nobody needs tens of millions of dollars for it.

The price of initial offerings always involves an element of guesswork. It may be tempting for a company to overprice, but obviously at the same time it can be counterproductive if everyone agress it is overpriced. Ultimately I suppose they have to set a price that consensus opinion will recognise as being slightly low, as expectation of profit is what draws people in.

I don’t think IPO is being overpriced because it has regulation, IPO has always been the safest means of investing and was once the most popular crowd funding method used to legally collect money from investors until ICO became more popular and the pushed IPO aside, I guess now that ICO is becoming so unsecured, investors are moving back to IPO which I expected if nothing is done to salvage ICO and build its image back.

I hope it doesn’t get to a point where the only means of crowd funding would be IPO, IEO and STO. ICO still has lots of advantages especially for those companies that does not have startup capital, it is has been the easiest way of them raising funds for most of the physical projects some cities are having, that is for the ones that are not scam.

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Most of the ICO’s we have in the market are overpriced to me, especially the ones that are under performing and until they proved themselves not to after they get listed and we see that they have working product that is making their value increase.

The projects that I cannot classify as being overpriced are premined projects, because they already have a value from their personal establishment and from such value, they can really calculate the worth of the project which will be based on that they will offer shares to the public, unlike all these other ICOs that doesn’t have startup capital and then just fix value based on what they assume will be the future value.

i think why people say that Initial Offerings are Overpriced because the bonus that they give , just giving 50% token whenever buy 20 eth + was insane bonus i guess

You don't have to invest with them if you are not sure and you don't have any clue about the project. It is better to play safely in any of investment because we don't want to get scam by them. If you still want to invest with them, you need to search for more details about the project so you can find what project that will be good in the long-term and that is not easy to find them.

If a company is already well renown then there is no point in giving away the starting price at so low , therefore it is supposed to be something that is enough to make their place justified.

On the other hand

If a company is starting from a scratch then they give away a price that is very well thought of , a price which actually goes well what they have put together in all the amount of time , and this price tends to be not high .

Therefore I think it is totally fair to be able to choose a price for your company , because it's them not us who actually have worked hard to create that .

I think price is reasonable howsoever they put it but this reason also sometimes have boundaries.

But I think they are not overly priced.

in 2017 most of icos are over priced they faced the blackslash of price down in 2018 and 2019 so now the icos or ieo are working on bring right developments and good supply and pricing as well we can expect icos market will come back this year

Exactly, you as early investors are risking your money for the future of the project, if you believe it has great potential to grow, that would give a good return of your money.

Just like in ICO, we buy at ICO price and if the price is trading over ICO price, that is already profit when you sell.
However, some still hold as they see in the long run it will make them more profitable.

What I believe is easy to determine is whether the project is overvalued or undervalued.

Are you really going to get some answers here and apply it to your investing choices and decision?
Me?! No. I want to create my own investigations with this type of ICO's. That way you will not be blaming anyone or anything but just yourself.
Also, regrets will be on you and that is where you will rise again.

If it is overpriced for you then let it go. Pick another one which is cheap but have a better feature for the future.
ICO's now tend to die in just a year or even after ICO. Better look deeply in their management if they are that strong to stay finishing the roadmap.

I don't think coins offerings do overpriced their tokens. It just the price will drop once exchange is online because most investors who avail bunoses dump their coins which compliment to the total supply in the market.

it seems this issue with market valuation and token supply is still a big problem in the crypto economy. the question is simple yet the answer is difficult. how do we know that the supply is not too much and the initial price is the right amount?

most of the time, ico company just decide that they'll make this or that amount of tokens, and considering the number of that tokens, then they'll need to price their token at X dollars to get reach the hardcap. seems an easy thing to do but then it raises more questions as to the valuation and ecosystem value later on.

if anyone is interested, this is a good topic for their research though.

When ICO were introduced, they were of low value and when the coins hits the exchanges the price raises 2x - 3x but later the ico began to lose their value. The ico coins prices went even down when they reaches the exchange. Now people do not buy coin in ico and prefer to get it lower prices at exchanges.

Maybe, this article has something to verify why all coins dumped when they listed on exchange. But they are not suppose to have an inference which stated as over pricing in the initial coin offering. Because if it was overpriced then, why there are people who sold it in a lower price? Do not blame bounty hunters because even BH have their own standards on when they are going to sell their coins. Another thing, almost 2% or less of the token supply only allocated in almost bounties. So, definitely investors are also the one that dump the coin. Because they want to buy again in much lower price.

We should really invest. Because the crypto market is really lacking in big and prestigious businesses in the business world. If the big guys join, it will attract many other investors.
and after being listed on exchange, its value will be inflated because too many people want to buy.

Likely,that is why prices fell too short from the ICO price when traded on exchanges.

This shows the intention of the new projects so people need to research and analyse before investing or they will be the one suffers later.

Well back then ICO is a way to get the alt-coin in a much more cheaper price but right now ,
It seem's like ICO's are over price because every time that their crypto gets listed it would always be dump and be more cheaper than their actual ICO price.
We couldn't really say that it is over price because it was the initial price set by the creator the market just made their crypto price lower due to the low demand.

When you see any ICO company giving out 50 percent easily, just know that they have over valued the coin and if you divide the initial rice by 2, that is exactly the value worth of such projects, most of these projects are really over value, it is just the way inflation works on a country by different business men and women, you see someone buy a product for $1, and then sell it for about $20, but before selling it, he would have over hyped the product as being the most quality, meanwhile the seller know the truth.

Only these developers know exactly that they over value their project but they will never own up to that fact so that the project will not look like a small company.

In every case, an initial offering is speculation. Prices can move both ways, both short- and long-term. It can be difficult to decouple hype and FOMO from genuine expectation. Crypto offerings suffer more from FOMO and more from price volatility, purely due to being crypto.

So I would say it is probably easier to determine likely true value of an initial offering if it is non-crypto, and especially if it is from an established company that is just going to the public. Then you have at least some understanding of the business model and how it has been working in practice, and how a route to profitability may pan out. With crypto, much less so - even if it is an established company that is now dipping into crypto - in most cases you can't really tie the likely success of the asset to the success of the company itself (although Facebook may be an outlier here).

Crypto initial offerings mean increased hype, increased FOMO, increased volatility and also potentially much greater reward or a drop to $0.

The one thing I would be wary of at the moment is IEOs - they really seem to be hugely over-hyped, especially Binance ones.

Nowadays, the ICOs are not just over-priced, but premature as well. Many of the projects decide to go for the ICO before the development is even 10% complete. And in most cases, the development remains frozen after the ICO is done. Once they encash their tokens, the team members lose their interest in the project and they get engaged with something else.

I think we can based the price in the fundamentals of the project like the overall product, uses cases and if it's for long-term. If we know that a project can be worth it in the future then overpriced or not it's a good buy.

usefull coins in crypto market will have high value.so its difficult to said it is overpriced or not.in my opinion it depend on market supply and demand.if demand to coins so high ofcourse it value will be expensive and vice versa.

The price of initial offering I think depends on what Project. So we cannot say this is overpriced or not. If you only implement an application via mobile, I don't think it should be expensive.
Finally in the end all of those will become shitcoin, that was the bad thing.

Setting up a company that has plan of having a product that will globally be used is really not an easy thing to do financially which we all know that it requires lots of financial commitment, but the issue I see with at least 50 percent of ICO is that they over estimate the cost of establishing the project, and once they hype the price, the best way to meet up would be to place an initial offering value that will be too high for the worth of the project itself.

It would not have even been of any challenge to majority of investors if they deliver on their promises, but despite given an overpriced projects, the still don’t meet up with expectation or establish that which was actually proposed, the next thing you hear is that they spent majority of the money in advert.

Based on from what I read and also experienced, it's really far from the ICO to the actual value. This is why investors are carefully choose and do some time to research because they already know only few can successfully do their promises. For the past years, many are already claiming that they have been scammed and sad to know that it still happened repeatedly.

Overpriced based on what?Everything that has a limited supply and huge demand is overpriced.Bitcoin is overpriced as well,and this is perfectly fine.IPOs aren't "roaring back",they are just a normal way for big startups to receive funding.Comparing them with ICOs is totally wrong.

For any investors out their wanting to get the first piece of the pie may not look like a bad idea but the truth is you are just risking your capital just by wanting to get that slice. Even Warren Buffet is not participating has never participated in any IPOs from the start and he wants to see how the rest of the market reacts to it first before he even jumps in. The risk is also bigger when we are talking about the crypto market as you can't put in a fair value for their coin so you really don't know if it will double the first day or lose half of its value in the first few hours.

It do really looks like a gamble which is really an inevitable thing to happen on any investment but there are really people who are

risk takers even they do know the risk or not on the first place they do still decide to proceed.Regreting after would just vary if the said
investor is aware on the risk behind or not because not all are prepared to loss money and as you said some are just jumping in without
having that observation.

Not all ICO's are identical, I mean sure there are ones that are overpriced and there are ones that are not overpriced but in the end if you want to make sure the price of a ICO's is right or not then you have check not the day one of their trading but a month later, two months later.

If you are going to fund a project even on the concept stage without coin even existing and give money to them to make their project a reality then you should not divest all of it on the first day it hits the exchanges, you should definitely look for a longer term investment and hope that you would be capable of profiting in the end after a lot of time passes, I still have friends who are holding their ICO coins from 2 years ago and they are in profit. If you want to sell as soon as possible then you are not an investor, you are a trader.

I guess I kind of understand why they are overpriced as well, after all the owner sees a concept and has a dream for the coin and they are building what they believe the next bitcoin maybe or at least something huge but sometimes people do not agree with them. You can trust a coin to be better than even bitcoin itself and should worth more in marketcap than bitcoin because you believe you are building something amazing but than if people do not care about it then there is not much the price can do.

So the price is first given by the owner who believes they are building something amazing but then the price is upto the people who actually use it and give it is worth so if they do not see the vision of the owner (which they mostly don't) then the price goes down of course.

Coin owners perspective would be really different into those people who would support it.I strongly believe that

each coin owner do have the inspiration on making a coin which is more better than bitcoin.There are actually lots of them
existed as of today but people do still end up to support the most on where these all came from which is on bitcoin.

Until a few months back, it was common to find ICOs with a hard cap of more than $100 million. Now these guys have become more reasonable. I checked some of the top ICOs and the soft cap was kept below $5 million. The hard cap ranges from $25 million to $50 million (it doesn't matter really, as none of these projects are likely to achieve the hard cap).

Many of the ico has overpriced, but we could still make money from the ico, especially if we know the right time to sell the token or coin. I am better to wait for a while to see the ico has finished and the token is launch in the market because we will see the token price will be at the low price so that will be our chance to buy at a low price. Many investors use this way to make money because they see that many tokens were getting down too deep after it gets the list in the exchange.

ICOs before was too good if you are bounty hunting because you can easily find any projects that will give you a decent amount of profit in return. But ICO these days are not that quite profitable anymore since most of them are good only at pump and dump scheme. More investors these days are losing a lot of money due to lack of knowledge about the project and/or sometimes the project itself is lack of support.

Some of these ICO project are more expensive than they should be, this usually comes from the developers and the people involved in it over hyping this project thinking that they are going to change the market and bring a new idea to the table and so they put a goal that is hard to reach and they put their coin at a high price, but if they don't reach the goal that they dreamed of they lose motivation and stop caring, or when the coin hits exchange it just drop down, so some ICO are really overpriced.

We never know if the ICO coins will good or scam. Most of them do not ever reaches the exchanges and hence it is useless to hold the ICO coins thinking they will be better value one day. Since many companies misused the ico only to get easy money, that is why we see a lot of ico are scammed and their prices of such coins are less than their ico prices.

I have to agree.
IPOs are overprices because they are over hyped . But that doe snot mean that all companies which conduct IPO has overpriced stock price. This means that a lot of niches are over hyped like new age of  transport -UBER ,Lyft.

I would still not blame it on people for not giving their support to some of these coins that we feel have a better technology than that of their originator which is bitcoin, I blame their failure to the developers themselves because they lack the push and strength to drive the project forwards amidst discouragement. When bitcoin started, do not forget that it never got support too for years, but satoshi and its team kept on pushing hard on it till it had its major breakthrough.

Prior to when bitcoin gained the trust of people too, there were so many projects on ground that people could rely on though not blockchain project, but gradually through their persistence, they were able to finally break the barrier, and end up becoming the most popular project till date, if these projects too are serious, they should stop complaining of support and continue to push, one day, they will surely succeed.

Most of the new crypto project said the prices without any e basis of the current market situation that makes the people to hate the price of the tokens and completely ignore the good project as well without enough research about it.So team need to adjust the price based on their cap values.

Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

Overpriced means the value derived from what you're investing in isn't worth the money. Conversely then, if the amount of value you can derive from the investment is greater than invested, then it's not overpriced.

As @carlfebz2 stated, the problem is that most people In fact, most projects don't know what the value is based on. In an ideal world it would be based on a carefully thought out business and financial plan that investors could understand. Too often white papers and other material produced by projects have no real planning or analysis, so investors making an evaluation on correct pricing is extremely hard, often bordering on impossible.

For co-operatives, which CBF cares about, a valuation is always carefully assessed, even if that's 'projected' based on analysis that has speculative elements in it. ICO and IPO valuation, price setting, size, etc. should be the same. Too often it seems it's a case of what the founders would like to make, not what value can be returned to investors.

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Once they offer a price, that's already the price, we cannot make them change the ICO price unless there is a significant changes on the number of total supply. That's already pegged with the total supply, therefore it's up to us if we choose to invest on them or not because sure we can find other options in the big market of altcoins.

In other words, each ICO team in its own way determines the value of its token at its discretion. In most cases, they do want to keep up with the latest practice in the cryptocurrency market and also overestimate the cost of their tokens. With this in mind, as soon as such tokens appear on the exchange, they fall in price. I, however, do not have any statistics on this issue, however, such a massive drop in almost all tokens should have a reason.

well maybe yes. but it is a trend and it is so normal that they become overpriced. thousands of people have been trying to participate the new ieos. the hype is really very hard for the ieos nowadays.

It is very difficult to give a definite answer to this question in the current cryptocurrency. As well as we can not give a direct answer whether the course of bitcoin is overvalued at any given moment. At the same time, the current state of the cryptocurrency market can also not be called completely objective, since the price of altcoins almost completely depends on the price of bitcoin. Now regardless of which ICO project token appears on the market, all of them, as a rule, fall in price hundreds of times. In order for the market to set a normal price for cryptocurrency, you need to get rid of any price dominance on it.

We aren't talking on ICO project here but we do mention about IEO thing.Its true that is really hard to determine on what would should be the prices of these tokens being offered.

We can eventually make calculations if we do just base up on the total supply and the price of each token.You will find out if that one is asking too much or just considerable price to have but as said theres no such factor or basis on where these tokens do rely their pricing.Im not saying its overprice nor being too cheap.

I think for the price when IEO happens this is the price value factor depending on the project being developed and depending on the total supply available, if the total supply of tokens has very little value and has a very useful project for many people and has the concept of using tokens that are good then the price of the token offered will usually be expensive when it is at the exchange place.

Don't be too concerned about pricing but ignore the potential of your business. Sometimes the issue price at the IPO is cheap compared to the next 10 years.
such as Google, had no one previously wanted to buy it and now it is one of the largest businesses in Europe. If the above projects have a certain development potential, try your luck.

When a startup goes IPO you know that they are either A) looking to exit on the most expensive way ever instead of getting bought or B) they want to buy more companies to go bigger. In one case the companies usually go slowly smaller and smaller and eventually go bankrupt, it has happened before and will happen again on companies that built their whole company on a premise that gets outdated eventually, aka Nokia type of issues.

On the others however, it gets insanely higher, look at facebook for example, they bought whatsapp and instagram and god knows what else smaller and they became such a huge company thanks to IPO money. If you can put your money into that kind of company you will get rich and definitely prefer IPO, if you gonna get into first one type of company then doesn't matter if its IPO or ICO.

Whenever a company goes for an initial offering it is good to consider different factors.

• The company or the project backing
• Whether it is associated with profession
• Investment should be on long term focus
• If it is a startup invest accordingly and if it
  is already established invest big
• Initial offering prices were just values, but
  we need to focus on the product worth
• If something is found overpriced, don't invest
  or go for small investment to experiment

While talking about initial coin offerings, we need to compare each and every one of them with the Ethereum ICO of 2015. I consider the Ether ICO as a benchmark for measuring the coin offerings. Back then 52 million tokens were on sale and the soft-cap was fixed at $16 million. Compare it to the current bunch of ICOs, who ask for $100 million or more, with even the initial phase of development not completed.

It really depends on the specific company and their vision. If it’s something that’s really great then I think any price will be okay but if that’s not the case then it’s a struggle. I prefer to keep eye on Upcoming ICOs (https://cryptolinks.com/ico) that has great potential and visible, as then you can understand if the price is right or not. It’s so important to analysis this because going into something over-priced is just not a worthy deal no matter what you do.

These youngins says that Initial offerings are overpriced when in fact its price is lower depends on Initial offering phase, whether its pre-sale or main sale  etc.. I guess I can see your perception why'd you ask if its overpriced, everytime an offering ends and listing are on its way price is easily decrease due to the fact that major investors are dumping and smaller investors get left behind on selling. That is why you need to consider some factors before investing, first check the reputation of the team then the value of the company and product if it will go long term or just short term, lastly the foundation or backbone of the project. I can say initial offerings these days are weak as there is great competition when it comes to the market.

That is for projects that have vision, most projects right now are overpriced, and I think they just give those quote just to give the investors impression that the product is worth it, but not all those project will even use the money for the project. There are some projects that I have even seen that the amount quoted may even be too small for the kind of project that they wish to release.

Based on the above point, developers don't care because they were never after the release of the project anyway, so they just give price and use it to quickly gather money from the investor and then the exit the market. I think that it is high time that very project that is seeking fund do a thorough analysis of fund they are requesting for, and then from there, we will be able to discern and decide if the project will be worth it or not.

Initial offerings AR sometimes overpriced and sometimes extremely underpriced. If you get lucky, and there is a good team behind an initial offering, then you can make a significant profit. However, if the initial offering is shady or possibly a scam then it's possible that the founders made dump their coins after launching on an exchange, and you will lose all you invested.

For example, look at the altcoins listed on CoinMarketCap. Pay attention to the coin statistics below the price chart. There is an important ROI index that represents the approximate return on investment if it was bought at launch. Some of the top-rated cryptocurrencies have a ROI of +5000%, other coins with low capitalization have a ROI of -95%. Undoubtedly, the initial offerings of such unprofitable projects were incorrectly calculated and extremely overpriced.

Every ICO is overpriced even the private sales are overpriced. Have you ever saw an ICO launched with a bigger price than the initial one ? because I haven't. Every ICO after launch they drop in price like 70%  and from there you must have patience before they reach again the ICO price which most of the time happens but it all depends on the project. Like I said in my previous post , ICO's are kinda dead in 2019 and this is not because of the bear market and because the investors are scared to invest again into risky projects.

No, initial offering has no standart to call  that overprice, its no problem even you have launched your jnitial with $100/token, its fine. But, i think it hard to get return on it.
If you want to buy initial offering, just buy the cheapest one and it have potential, you can get more return and easy to take profit.

I don't think that the Initial offerings are overpriced because that is how the team or the company value their stock or cryptocurrency. The reason why the price of the initial offerings go down is because the people didn't see the same value that the company sees to their product. It is all about having a great research in order to find out if the company is a really good one to invest in their initial offerings so even the price goes down, you can still hold it for a long time.

The valuation of high business is normal. If we feel it is a potential business and has enough factors so that we can invest a lot of money, then we should try our luck.
Like Amazon and Google before it, it's just a repository of 3-4 people struggling to develop their websites. and now it has made a trillion-dollar business. My advice is never to waste money investing in big potential businesses.

Every ICO owner wants their token to be overbought. It is common for the owners to fake their statistics for this purpose and even if they are exposed 99% of the investors would not care because they lack the basic sense of research and analysis of prices. The reason of "rekt" after altcoins is because of the money-grabbing attitude that majority of the people in the crypto world have and the ICO owners prey on it. They are going to overprice their tokens so they get a good amount of money in for their own scam.

Exactly zero number of ICOs are needed for any investors to invest in. None of them ended up with a proper MVP or a reputed project. All of them were waste of time and money but still even today people are buying new ICO token offerings. ::)

Ofcourse it is overpriced. They value their coins like they value their project. But some of them just use Initial Offerings to earn money. And after the ICO they will not continue their project. I'm not saying all of them, but mostly of them.

You need to understand that cryptocurrencies are just like other market securities. These too don't have any intrinsic value. Cryptocurrency's value is determined by the reputation and operation of project underlying such coin. Better the project, better the value of coin. Another factor that determines value of coin is public believe in coin. So you can't say ICO are over-priced, it all depends upon how good the coin is. If people take high interest then it's under-priced and vice-versa.

Each ICO is free to determine its minimum. because they have certain standards that they value themselves. and that has no limits. all depends on prospective investors and the project policy itself. now it's up to you to be part of that early investor or not. there is no guarantee that someone will always be successful if you become an initial investor in an ICO.

how do you say so ? why do you think they are promoting such bonuses  . and those bonuses are huge .  this should cut the entire cost of thier coins  .

 this is why  i dont think they are over priced but thier pricing are cheap compare to other existing coins on the market .
not only that but thier coins can even become cheaper once they are already listed inside the online exchange  because hunters and other investors are going to pre dump thier hodling   .

I start with ICO for the first time look good with can get much profit after listing on market, after ICOs have low trusted with lower price on market I choose IEOs and getting much profit too, but only on the first time of IEO, after that IEOs become the same situation with ICOs because have lower price after active for trading on market.

Initial exchange overing I think overpriced because many IEO have lower price after listing with market, after get respond positive from investor with higher price of IEO and many IEO coin sold out, they make new IEO but do not control with lower price than IEO after listing on market, less trusted from investor and now IEO not be interested again.

Obviously it is a business plan so they could get more investors.

This is the reason why a lot of investors are losing their money into these projects.

I think you are the one that just invests in these projects since you've seen them have huge bonuses, having a cap of $1M and what they only had is a whitepaper and a plan. As far as I know, there are coins in the past that are already a coin before going to these ICOs, while most of the coins right now are just plans waiting to be laid out after investors pay, that is why it is overpriced.

Initial exchange offering or IEO have over and done, no way to get profit with IEO because have lower price after listing with exchange market, just waiting when IEO have profitable again with big exchange market listed. Now we take moment for trading with altcoin or you can take profit with trading in bitcoin.

As a regular investor we really don’t care much about initial prices of shares or tokens. If we believe in the company where we put our money is, we should be more concern about how the company will generate money and make good revenues.

Every single token offering almost is overpriced. When you have zero product, zero community, zero utility, then your value should be zero. What people are paying for is overhyped tokens that have no other value than to be speculated on at exchanges.

Some projects that already exist and have a product will crowdfund, this is very different but rare.

It depends on how will you valuate a project. If you see a good potential in the project and the initial price is just right then it is not over priced. It all falls on the investors and the team on how will they carry the project after the initial offering, the development and the demand in the project will place the real value of the project in the market.

Yeah, if the project seems convincing and promising then you don't find it over-priced but if the idea doesn't kick you then you often consider it to be an over-priced. Moreover, many of the investors these days feel a little bit risky to invest in the new project as they have started to lose faith in the fresh ones and thus restrict only to the existing ones. Hence, due to the lack of interest, ICO seems quite overpriced...

Maybe Uber isn't, but when IPO fever hits you can be sure that most of them are.  Any social media stocks are probably selling for more than they should.  Investors who buy them right after they come out on the market likely are paying far too much for them, and it would be a better idea not to buy at all in my opinion.

The situation isn't quite as bad as it was two decades ago with the internet stock boom, at least as far as I can tell.  The market is still overpriced but there isn't the irrational euphoria that it saw back then.

Well being of rational mind I would never do the mistake of comparing an ICO with an IPO. IPO is much more regulated and much more real. You don't believe me? Let's get into the details
1. IPO has a minimum subscription or what we call a soft cap of about 90% of total fund raiser. While in cryptocurrencies this is set relatively too low only to about 30-40% of the total hard cap this is because there is no regulation.
2. IPO have proper books of accounts as they are normal companies and the funds which they have raised are their Equity shown on the Liabilites side of their Balance sheet which means in event of Winding up they will be paying their shareholder everything back. Have you ever heard an ICO paying everything back because project failed?
3. IPO prepare regular reports and their works can be pretty easily seen. Only about 2-4% go to utter failure immediately(in a couple of years) after going public while I have seen a 99% ICO never ever completing their project as promised by them in Whitepaper.
So despite of IPOs being overpriced they definitely offer the value for your money as it will always be in safe hands. But even a dollar spent in ICO is a dollar vanished into air.

Participants who did not deal with researching before investing with new offer projects will regret after failing to gain profits. Initial offerings that held from big exchange or reputable exchange have a higher chance to bring good outcomes. Don't just spend your money, always check the possibilities if the project  have potential to succeed, even if the value is overpriced if there's a good chance of success it's still profitable in the long run.

Long run results would be still on 50% chance if it would succeed or not and to admit that it do need some sort of hype before they do able to achieve that pumping situation.
Talking about their prices, they do normally set out that casual numbers basing on their entire supply just like on what we had seen on typical ICO pricing.
Im not saying overpriced but if you do look at it generally these shit tokens should really have no value but people do set out price via thin air.

everything is according to calculations but when listing prices become disappointing, if people already know the risk then it's considered reasonable because investing can't get instant results
investors must also pay attention to development of projects undertaken by team

I agree with you that ICO should be large enough, and have a listing on a large exchange with the support of large partners. In this case, the profit is guaranteed, BUT in the short term.
No one knows what will happen to the project in the long term. Always keep in mind that large investors are focused on income from such projects here and now, which means that in the future they will not invest in the project, but they will remove the first profit immediately after listing.

It depends on the project itself and what are you buying into as after this terms you can guide the price if its overpriced or underpriced. I think most of the ICO's are overpriced at the beginning but if you can catch the private investor ICO then you will have a chance to have some profits as soon as its lands on exchanges, if not , you will have to even wait until the project goes alive even more and tech is used in some way or simply wait for it to pump and you don't want to wait for a pump...maybe it never comes.

Initial offering always have higher price for listing on exchange market, just today look lower price after listing with exchange market. Today many IEO always failed because have lower price with low interested by investor to buy after trading active. Price drop because they only take profit with IEO and never want to hold coin for long time because do not give positive effect to keep hold and waiting too long, just best ideas to get much money with IEO.

I do not think that this directly depends on the project, rather it depends on the market.
Look at what prices all ICOs started selling in 2018 and with what prices they began to bargain immediately after entering the market.
All investors are in a strong minus because of this. Therefore, I believe that ICOы is almost always overpriced.

buying on exchanges has lower risk than participate in crowdsale.most of them was down, its happen to.projects that launched before IEO platform builded.ICO hype was gone now and replaced by IEO hype that ever be trend like previous system.usually some investors want sell their token immediately.and it caused price drop alot.

I don't know how can you compare Uber, Zoom.etc with ICOs such as HiveNet and GRAYLL. Uber, Zoom, Lyft.etc are in business for the past so many years. They have billions of USD in annual revenue (although right now many of them are in net loss). Uber itself have an user base numbering in hundreds of millions, which is increasing at a healthy pace every year.

Now let's take a look at the ongoing ICOs. There are a few good projects such as HiveNet (distributed cloud computing network) and FRED Energy (alternative energy promotion). There are some very good ideas out there. But the problem is that they don't have a final product yet. The development has just started. And they don't come cheap either. The hardcap for HiveNet is placed at $19 million. Do you really think that this is justified?

I don't think it is overpriced, it is upon the project pricing, it will be just up to us if that is worth by searching and reading some info about the project, and the project feasibility to grow if they are worth it to invest with or not. We should always be vigilant to our actions, we should not just rely on others opinion, we can consider but it is better if we do some investigations about the project.

When initial exchange offering or IEO re open on big exchange market again? I want get recovery my money lost with last IEO on Binance. I want get much profit and could closed my lost money in Perlin IEO. I will try good way for selling after opening in exchange market without keep waiting on higher price, I will get much profit if have next IEO on binance and invest with higher amount to get big chance with earn money with IEO.

We should invest in businesses that can bring us great profits in the future. In fact, the IPO has existed for a long time and it is still very hot in countries focusing on the stock market, especially the US.
For long term investment, I recommend investing in an IPO. The business will bring real value and no scams.

The initial high corporate valuation is normal if it is a potential business and is sought by many people.
When a business is launched in a new type of market with lots of demand, it will easily become a unicorn.
therefore, evaluating potential is more important than looking at value.

IPOs cannot be overpriced since they are backed by actual past performance history of a firm and the beauty of it is that this data is verifiable. This is usually not the case with ICOs and IEOs where you are buying a token often connected to a theoretical documentation of how someone intends to solve problem X. Linkedin profiles and whitepapers can do much but won't be able to guarantee success to a greater extent. Most projects that have been raising funds in the past and continue to do so to this day are nothing but plain heists that are not even worth the papers where their names are printed on. IPO returns might not be that attractive but at least one can perform due diligence.

well, did u already make your choice ?
if not,just choose,listen,both ICO and IEO even IPO basicaly they are good , if u make reserach first. you should be fine.
and about overpriced, well, we dont know exact price of initial offerings ? as long u see that worth for their project, i guess its no problem anymore.


if u think that good, just go in, SophonEX have a lot of good team members.
about how , well, just find it by yourself.

Which is absent in 99% of ICO or any such initial offering. They dont run a business to create something new. They are just raising money at an attempt to make something new from wannabe venture capitalists who dont even understand the meaning of the word "venture" - this is the average "crypto-enthusiast" you see everyday on this forum.

The rarest and the most profitable type of investment that is.

Correct, but try evaluating the ICOs that happen. Not even one had any potential to be a game changer.

yes the initial offerings are overpriced but I am not clear which initial offerings here are you talking about. Initial offerings of stock market might be overpriced but they are worth the money you invest. ICO are not the same they are overprice infact i would say even $1 for an ICO is too much because they are nothing but shit token.

Perhaps I do not understand the essence of the question asked, but I could never figure out on what grounds the team evaluates its coins when the idea itself still exists only in plans and on White Paper.  Of course, if the company already has a real product, then the price of a coin can be determined very easily, but initially the team obviously overestimates the prices for new projects.  This applies to almost all new projects today.

I think the initial offerings is not too expensive when a project has a good platform development and has many requests waiting for their platform to be launched, because usually when the initial offerings price will be cheaper after the platform is launched the price will be expensive and many will benefit, this is for a project that can be said to be successful but if the project fails then the price at the initial offerings is more expensive than the price at the launch site.

Still looking for for this month with IEO, I like investing with IEO project because faster to earn profit than have make investing with ICO, without giving bonus like ICO I think IEO still better to get profit with investment, just waiting one week we can sell coin from IEO. by investing with ICO we need about one month until two months to sell coin from ICO investing, give me information if you got new IEO listing with big market.

I agree to that. ICOs are very slow when it comes to market listing and the developers or the team usually delay most of the things that we are excited about while IEO are very fast and they are convenient because they are already in the exchange. We still need to make sure that we are getting a quality token or coin before we invest so we will not lose our money.