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Title: Ponzi scheme Fraud
Post by: mayma on June 20, 2019, 05:00:13 PM
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Title: Re: Ponzi scheme Fraud
Post by: timerland on June 21, 2019, 12:31:50 PM
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What do you think about a platform where you can put the address you wish to invest on and it detect if it is a ponzi scheme fraud or not .?

It works theoretically but it's simply not practical.

It's like those pages with a list of known scams. While it may be useful, when a site is reported as a scam most likely the admin will have already exited and stopped promoting, meaning that the list of scams can often be redundant when it comes to actually protecting consumers. The currency and relevance of such a list is debatable imo.

Likewise, with your proposed service, I think not only will it be difficult to try to even try to get a portion of the addresses associated with known schemes, new ones are popping up every day that you'd have to document. It's simply unfeasible to update that often. Much better to teach people how to spot them instead.


Title: Re: Ponzi scheme Fraud
Post by: AdolfinWolf on June 21, 2019, 02:22:44 PM
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What do you think about a platform where you can put the address you wish to invest on and it detect if it is a ponzi scheme fraud or not .?

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This.

And it already exists in various ways;

you have https://badbitcoin.org and https://bitcoinwhoswho.com/scams

They're really not that useful, and only cover 0.1% of scams, only after they've already happend. I'm not sure what you're looking to gain by creating another site like these ones.. Ad rev?


Title: Re: Ponzi scheme Fraud
Post by: Slow death on June 21, 2019, 02:56:55 PM
How many hyip/ponzi sites are on the internet? There are many ponzi sites that exist on the internet.

How many hyip/ponzi sites are created every day? Many hyip/ponzi sites are created.

There is a big problem here:

People who invest in hyip/ponzi sites look at hyips sites as a game. where first come, earn money and late come, lose money. No matter how hard you try to convince these people, it will be useless. Because they will not stop investing in these hyip/ponzi sites.



Title: Re: Ponzi scheme Fraud
Post by: Mahanton on June 21, 2019, 08:22:47 PM
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What do you think about a platform where you can put the address you wish to invest on and it detect if it is a ponzi scheme fraud or not .?

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This.

And it already exists in various ways;

you have https://badbitcoin.org and https://bitcoinwhoswho.com/scams

They're really not that useful, and only cover 0.1% of scams, only after they've already happend. I'm not sure what you're looking to gain by creating another site like these ones.. Ad rev?
It isn't really useful at all.They do list out for what? since the scam or the thing do already happened.These sites aren't really
making some attention or readers and I would rather believe that if a site would wrote out on possible scam projects
which the thing didn't happen yet then its a considerable thing to focus on.


Title: Re: Ponzi scheme Fraud
Post by: dothebeats on June 21, 2019, 10:15:59 PM
I'm not entirely sure how would you accomplish such a thing knowing that the whole crypto economy is a huge ecosystem. It's just a waste of resources really, and your effort together with your time could be directed into some other projects that could be beneficial to you and to the community. It's a noble thought but rather a dire effort to save this community from such doings. It couldn't be prevented, and all we can do is to just educate people on how to spot and avoid ponzi schemes/fraudulent activities for them to be safe.


Title: Re: Ponzi scheme Fraud
Post by: cissrawk on June 21, 2019, 11:57:46 PM
There is a big problem here:

People who invest in hyip/ponzi sites look at hyips sites as a game. where first come, earn money and late come, lose money. No matter how hard you try to convince these people, it will be useless. Because they will not stop investing in these hyip/ponzi sites.
Yep, and i see a lot people especially on facebook crypto group, they always say something like "Join the ride now or before it turned into scam!". Seems like they see ponzi/hyip as a gambling. And if you try to remind them if that hyip/ponzi, they usually reply with "If you don't risk it all, then you don't deserve to get a good profit", they said :-\ .


Title: Re: Ponzi scheme Fraud
Post by: fortunecrypto on June 22, 2019, 03:11:16 AM
How many hyip/ponzi sites are on the internet? There are many ponzi sites that exist on the internet.

How many hyip/ponzi sites are created every day? Many hyip/ponzi sites are created.

There is a big problem here:

People who invest in hyip/ponzi sites look at hyips sites as a game. where first come, earn money and late come, lose money. No matter how hard you try to convince these people, it will be useless. Because they will not stop investing in these hyip/ponzi sites.


Yes that's true there are really people who are gambling in hyip and ponzi scheme because they knew that there's a possibility of making money here if you know how to enter and how to exit and how to promote effectively, they just come and go they are ruthless, promoters and operators and there are also conniving with hyip monitor and rating sites.