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Title: SP500, BTC, Gold and many other assets hit new high. What's the implication? Post by: GabrielleGGG on June 25, 2019, 11:05:29 PM It seems that the capital market in June 2018 is yet again on a frenzy, with SP500 hitting a new historical record high, and Bitcoin breaking the 10000 dollar mark again.
What do these new highs implicate? Is there something unnoticed to the public? What'll happen next? https://medium.com/sophonexchange/new-high-for-everything-1123087a04b9?source=friends_link&sk=39cee77ec17bebdfa5d746900c53c049 Title: Re: SP500, BTC, Gold and many other assets hit new high. What's the implication? Post by: BADecker on June 26, 2019, 12:08:47 AM All it means is that fiat is hitting new lows with regard to unconventional investments.
The basic reason Bitcoin flopped in 2018, was the raising of miner fees, so that trading Bitcoin wasn't profitable. If the miners do this again, is it time to sue the miners? 8) Title: Re: SP500, BTC, Gold and many other assets hit new high. What's the implication? Post by: TECSHARE on June 26, 2019, 01:10:16 AM The economy is destabilizing and trust levels are extremely low, and rightfully so. The ship of the world economy has sprung a leak, and the smart ones are already on the life boats. Crypto and gold are one of the few remaining lifeboats left to escape the sinking fiat and derivative based economy.
Title: Re: SP500, BTC, Gold and many other assets hit new high. What's the implication? Post by: theymos on June 26, 2019, 05:07:06 AM I think that the market has long been dominated by the aftereffects of quantitative easing, and the current thing is just another ripple of that. There's simply a worldwide glut of money.
In QE, the Fed bought MBSes and treasuries, which basically amounted to printing $3 trillion and giving it to everyone who was holding those things; namely, banks and various investors (mostly institutional). For comparison, M3 money supply is currently $14.5 trillion. What do these groups do when they get tons of money? They're investors, so they reinvest it, especially in bonds/stocks, but also in things like BTC. They don't buy food or gadgets or whatever. IMO this is why stocks have been going up at an unnatural rate for a while even though the CPI doesn't grow out of control. Eventually the money makes its way out to ordinary shareholders, but shareholders also have a tendency to reinvest rather than spend, so the process of money escaping the investment universe is slow. The Fed has been slowly unwinding QE, though they're talking about stopping that (after eating only about a quarter of what they printed). They also continue to print money in their open market operations. I don't know how this will play out long-term. I suppose that the inflation in investment-asset prices will eventually have to leak into CPI, but it might be gradual enough to not cause a catastrophe. It might end up being a sort of loan, paid to investors, and paid by holders of dollars over the next several decades. |