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Title: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: stalker00075 on June 29, 2019, 09:08:50 AM
why no one discusses this address? 18tCaHs7XwyJnctsCWDLaPX2GyEsNetuP4
this is one of Satoshi purses or not?

because the balance was leaked


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: funchiestz on June 29, 2019, 09:14:34 AM
why no one discusses this address? 18tCaHs7XwyJnctsCWDLaPX2GyEsNetuP4
this is one of Satoshi purses or not?

because the balance was leaked

18tCaHs7XwyJnctsCWDLaPX2GyEsNetuP4 (https://btc.com/18tCaHs7XwyJnctsCWDLaPX2GyEsNetuP4)
Anybody can own this wallet. I guess nobody would know that except Coinbase. Because the BTCs sent by Coinbase to this wallet.

Who leaked this info? Have you any source?


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: antisocial77 on June 29, 2019, 10:14:35 AM
how do you know that wallet is satoshi's? and what happen if it is true? does it make any progress to crypto or do we get any benefit from it? im getting tired of that satoshi topics.


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: sandra_x on June 29, 2019, 10:24:30 AM
December 2010 is not that early to suggest it was owned by Satoshi Nakamoto, it could have been anyone- unless there are other factors or information to suggest otherwise. Any of such information available?


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: stalker00075 on June 29, 2019, 10:28:19 AM
In the telegram, people discussed as possible address Satoshi

I don't know, I need your assumptions / the amount is big! since 2010


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: BitHodler on June 29, 2019, 11:08:23 AM
It's spent last month so if there was any doubt about satoshi redeeming his private keys, it would be big news everywhere with how news outlets wouldn't let that opportunity go past them.

It's probably an old miner or somebody who managed to buy a computer or laptop and found this private key. Either way, none of the shitforks have been touched so that person might not be up to date with where crypto is today.


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: btc_angela on June 29, 2019, 11:18:58 AM
why no one discusses this address? 18tCaHs7XwyJnctsCWDLaPX2GyEsNetuP4
this is one of Satoshi purses or not?

because the balance was leaked

We don't know that for sure. However, Satoshi has been gone into hiding for many years, and even at the height of bitcoin during 2017, we haven't seen him moving his coins, so why today? Doesn't make any sense at all.


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on June 29, 2019, 11:48:10 AM
That's an interesting wallet. I don't think it's from satoshi himself. Two transactions that were made, last from 2010 where it received as "Newly Generated Coins".

Either way, none of the shitforks have been touched so that person might not be up to date with where crypto is today.
He probably treating it as an investment now, 50 BCHABC & SV, BTG and other whatsoever forks.


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: BrewMaster on June 29, 2019, 02:53:02 PM
you can't just post a completely random bitcoin address and talk about Satoshi without even providing 1 line of information about WHY the hell you think it is related to Satoshi!

there are tons of addresses similar to this one that have been active in early days and belong to other people.
the silliest part is that the address was first seen on 12/2010 which is 2 years after creation of bitcoin! and by that time bitcoin was being traded and price was already $0.25-$0.5


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: Em00n01 on June 29, 2019, 02:58:32 PM
Why do you think this is the purse of satoshi? Do you have any proof? I know many peoples who owned more than 100 BTC .


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: stalker00075 on June 29, 2019, 03:11:13 PM
guys, I'm not trying to scare you or yourself. I want to know your thoughts, tips


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: AGD on June 29, 2019, 03:35:11 PM
why no one discusses this address? 18tCaHs7XwyJnctsCWDLaPX2GyEsNetuP4
this is one of Satoshi purses or not?

because the balance was leaked

18tCaHs7XwyJnctsCWDLaPX2GyEsNetuP4 (https://btc.com/18tCaHs7XwyJnctsCWDLaPX2GyEsNetuP4)
Anybody can own this wallet. I guess nobody would know that except Coinbase. Because the BTCs sent by Coinbase to this wallet.

Who leaked this info? Have you any source?

Coinbase doesn't mean, that this is a transaction from the company 'Coinbase', but, that this was a mining address, which minted 50 BTC in 2010.
It is indeed interesting to see, that an early miner waited 9 years to move his coins. It is from block 97,972 and therefore could have been any early miner. Maybe he wants to share the reason for the long wait. Let us know!


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: iamzill on June 29, 2019, 03:47:58 PM
you can't just post a completely random bitcoin address and talk about Satoshi without even providing 1 line of information about WHY the hell you think it is related to Satoshi!

there are tons of addresses similar to this one that have been active in early days and belong to other people.
the silliest part is that the address was first seen on 12/2010 which is 2 years after creation of bitcoin! and by that time bitcoin was being traded and price was already $0.25-$0.5
I think it's not a real thing, if it does say Satoshi wallet I don't think it can be easily traced just because it does have transactions that are different from most people. I think this is not the real situation


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: Austin_Lord on June 29, 2019, 04:05:44 PM
I don't  know about it.  But how you can say that  this wallet belongs to Satoshi? Well may be this is rumours...


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: 1Referee on June 29, 2019, 09:50:21 PM
It is indeed interesting to see, that an early miner waited 9 years to move his coins.

It could very well be that this miner was a young nerd playing around with his laptop back in the days and now reached a point where he is going to buy a house or somethinig.

These old movements should function as evidence that coins not moving for years aren't lost or whatever. There have been articles where 'research' pointed out that this or that many million coins are lost, but that doesn't have to be the case as we have seen here.


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: Thirdspace on June 29, 2019, 10:38:12 PM
Either way, none of the shitforks have been touched so that person might not be up to date with where crypto is today.
He probably treating it as an investment now, 50 BCHABC & SV, BTG and other whatsoever forks.
I guess he doesn't have a clue (as BitHodler said) about fork coins or doesn't know how to access them yet :D
and he only cashed out 0.07 BTC, the remaining amount sits idle in two different addresses now


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: Lanatsa on June 29, 2019, 11:24:41 PM
Just wondering on why coinbase is the origin,basing;

Quote
Coinbase
CEO: Brian Armstrong (Hun 20, 2012–)
Established : June 20, 2012
Earnings : 1 billion USD (2017)
Number of employees : 500
Founders : Brian Armstrong , Fred Ehrsam
Subsidiaries : Paradex Inc. , Grafly Inc. , Earn Global, Inc. ,


Hence,transaction happened 2010-12-17

This isn't satoshi and just as said above this might be owned by an early miner who do decide to buy up some house. :)


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: ralle14 on June 30, 2019, 01:39:05 AM
Just wondering on why coinbase is the origin
Funchiestz thought it's from coinbase's exchange because when you look up the first transaction of the said address on btc.com there's a coinbase label. But coinbase doesn't only mean the exchange it could also mean the block reward.  On other explorers you can easily find that the transaction came from a block that is mined years ago.  



Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: AGD on June 30, 2019, 05:42:16 AM
Just wondering on why coinbase is the origin,basing;

Quote
Coinbase
CEO: Brian Armstrong (Hun 20, 2012–)
Established : June 20, 2012
Earnings : 1 billion USD (2017)
Number of employees : 500
Founders : Brian Armstrong , Fred Ehrsam
Subsidiaries : Paradex Inc. , Grafly Inc. , Earn Global, Inc. ,


Hence,transaction happened 2010-12-17

This isn't satoshi and just as said above this might be owned by an early miner who do decide to buy up some house. :)

Has been answered

Coinbase doesn't mean, that this is a transaction from the company 'Coinbase', but, that this was a mining address, which minted 50 BTC in 2010.
It is indeed interesting to see, that an early miner waited 9 years to move his coins. It is from block 97,972 and therefore could have been any early miner. Maybe he wants to share the reason for the long wait. Let us know!


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: AGD on June 30, 2019, 05:47:19 AM
It is indeed interesting to see, that an early miner waited 9 years to move his coins.

It could very well be that this miner was a young nerd playing around with his laptop back in the days and now reached a point where he is going to buy a house or somethinig.

These old movements should function as evidence that coins not moving for years aren't lost or whatever. There have been articles where 'research' pointed out that this or that many million coins are lost, but that doesn't have to be the case as we have seen here.

If  he wanted to buy a house with that money, he could have sold it a while ago and buy two of these houses ... or one house double as large, but I agree with the 'evidence' thing.


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: Clark05 on June 30, 2019, 10:16:05 AM
Because of every waller is anonymous and we cannot determine we cannot say if that wallet is from the Satoshi Nakamoto even the amount of bitcoin is very huge it not means that wallet is from him because they have many people who have a lot of bitcoin like that not only Satoshi and maybe more than the amount of bitcoin they have even a single transaction he do everyday.


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: xWolfx on June 30, 2019, 01:08:10 PM
maybe that big whale balance doesn't belong to satoshi, now anyone satoshi can't be found and no one knows yet. so I'm not sure about that. is it possible for satoshi to use an ordinary wallet to store large amounts of bitcoin?

Yeah i don't believe it belongs to him. Also, why trying to track him?

I understand that it is really fun for a hobbie but if he wants to remain unknown and we really like what he created, can't we respect his wish even if we don't know him?

Some people say that you truly know the soul of an author through the things he writes. What about creators and innovators of any kind? It's probably the same thing.


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: batang_bitcoin on June 30, 2019, 10:30:28 PM
Either way, none of the shitforks have been touched so that person might not be up to date with where crypto is today.
He probably treating it as an investment now, 50 BCHABC & SV, BTG and other whatsoever forks.
I guess he doesn't have a clue (as BitHodler said) about fork coins or doesn't know how to access them yet :D
and he only cashed out 0.07 BTC, the remaining amount sits idle in two different addresses now
Haha yeah that's more probable, he still holds those fork coins.
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/18tCaHs7XwyJnctsCWDLaPX2GyEsNetuP4
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-sv/address/18tCaHs7XwyJnctsCWDLaPX2GyEsNetuP4
I can't say more about this wallet and the owner, he's really lucky to have this wallet back.


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on June 30, 2019, 10:49:59 PM
Why do you think this is the purse of satoshi? Do you have any proof? I know many peoples who owned more than 100 BTC .
Exactly, so many whales already in the market and its hard to know if this is the real wallet of Satoshi not unless we have the valuable resources for that, but so far even if we made a lot if investigation Satoshi is still unknown.


Title: Re: wallet Satoshi or not?
Post by: freedomgo on July 01, 2019, 09:44:23 AM
We can't confirm that as Satoshi is smart enough in hiding, and that is just 50 BTC, very small amount compared to what is reported that he owns almost 1 million BTC.