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Why do signature campaigns not count posts in Politics and Society?

This is my first campaign and I am at a loss. I have spent hours and now days reading and its always  good information.  But trying to find a place to contribute something has been tough.  As a new member, I don't feel as though I am qualified to post anywhere else. And I already got one post deleted for saying congratulations and asking about the music in an add.

When you are at the very beginning it is even hard to know what to ask or how to contribute in any way

So am wondering why would there be no count on Politics and Society?  At least there I could contribute something.

And more importantly, how do you contribute quality posts in areas you know nothing about?

Yes, it is a point you should know. There are some boards are easily to make spamming posts. And such boards are less interesting for real users, whom less likely visit those boards. However, I don't say that Politics & Society is the less interesting board for established users.
If you don't have anything constructive, don't think of posting. That's easy.
Additionally, it is likely a wrong way to jump to campaigns, in your early days in the forum. Instead, you should spend your time to read unofficial forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0), and forum structures. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=help)
I answered this in your previous thread.

There are different reasons those campaigns may not count on that board but if it what's they want better you stick to those rules.

Better to learn more about those things and if you know better now that's where you should ask and contribute, rather it may seem to be just trolling on that topic. Observation and grasping some knowledge at all will help you to be better on that side.

Just read the latter statement I just give.

You can always find a signature campaign that allows posting in any boards if you want to post in Politics and Society or even Beginner's & Help boards. Because of these boards/sections are non-crypto related topics, for example, I am wearing gambling related signature so I must post in the gambling section. Investors or visitors will visit most likely in discussions boards either bitcoin, altcoin or in trading discussion board but if you are passionate about gambling you can also visit on gambling section. It depends on the owner of that project where they like to show their name in the signature.

If you love to post on that board, go on! and share your knowledgeable thought even it is not counted on your campaign as long as you are helping forum not by spamming. A good quality poster will be rewarded.

If one area is showing up as consistently worthless then they're throwing money away by paying people to post in there. I presume they can tell whether a click has come from one particular section and not enough are derived from that bit.


If you've got nothing to contribute to an area then keep your silence or you may have arousing questions. Same reason I would never sign up for a gambling campaign. I know nothing about it and I think it's shit.

i think largely because there are less interest in those board, i for one never visited that section before because i don't like politics so i have nothing to say in that aspect same applies to mining, am not a miner, never tried it so i know next to nothing regarding mining, there was a campaign i was about joining but part of the requirement was that participants must make 3 post on the mining section that made withdraw from participating,
if less people visit such sections the campaign may not count post there since only few people can view the signature.

Campaigns can choose to pay (or not pay) users in whatever boards they like. If they wanted to pay exclusively in off topic then they could, but historically a lot of campaigns stopped paying in boards like Off topic and Politics because of the amount of shit threads spammers were creating in there just to get paid because they were being abused by people who couldn't talk about much else. I think the Politics board has changed a lot over the years as you can have some decent discussion in there now and that's probably because it's mostly a sig spam free board all because most campaigns don't pay in there.


You don't... or shouldn't and this is the huge issue here isn't it. You've come to a message board on a topic you have little to no knowledge about just to earn and that's why we have so much spam because people are trying to talk about things they don't understand.

OP for future campaigns you might want to read this thread before joining one; [Guide] Factors to consider before joining paid signature campaigns. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115291.0) Now to your question, the reason most campaigns don't accept post made in the politics and society board is because members who post in that boards or visit that board to read topics aren't their targeted audience. Also the board has less traffic compared to other highly visited boards like Bitcoin/Altcoin discussion. For other boards, high rate of spam could be a reason why post aren't counted but in the case of politics and society it isn't since the spam rate in the board is minimum compared to other boards posts are accepted from e.g Bitcoin discussion board etc

Concerning your not been able to to contribute to thread, just skip or try reading the replies from other users, if you do so you might have some additional useful information to add to the reply, correct mistakes etc also when you encounter a topic you have no idea about, it isn't a must to contribute, try searching on the topic, get to understand it because it's a knowledge gained which might be useful later as must times similar (sometimes exact) topic repeat themselves on forum, then you can contribute meaningfully from your understanding. if you still feel you want to contribute to that particular thread after researching on the topic, try not to copy and paste instead contribution from your understanding and add a link to source of information.

Except for forum Newbies, spammers and forum administrators, very few people go to the irrelevant part of the forum. This part of the forum is made to keep all off-topic posts away from serious discussion. None of the signature owners does want to waste money on the black hole.
It is a crypto related forum, not life magazine and discussion about music, Politics and Society ... not a priority.

if you had a bitcoin mixer site, would you pay people to post to the policy section or would you pay people to post to the bitcoin discussion section?

The people in the policy section are about to discuss politics, they are hardly going to look at the mixer service, but people in the bitcoin section will need a mixer or an exchange.

if you had a policy site and had money to run a sig campaign here in the forum, then you would pay people to post in the policy section


do the following:

spend hours reading all sections of the forum, spend hours reading the posts made in previous years to familiarize yourself with the forum, with members and know the philosophy and politics of the forum. You will know how to contribute and where to contribute.

The project owner they want exposure and discussion sections(like bitcoin and altcoins) are the main targets of them because it can drive heavy traffic on this forum which means the project that you promoted will be known. If you have something to contribute to that Politics and society section then, you can. I dunno what will happen if there are no forum rules like spamming, I'm sure those project owner did not care the forum as long as they had exposure on discussion boards.

Its easy to get caught in flames in politics, you ain't advertising when people in the threads are arguing just about demo and rep's side. Its almost going to be the same thing with Religion, there ain't no peace for this discussion board.

If I am an advertisers who's going to promote my shop selling guns and ammo, I guess I'd pick this section and won't count any other section in the forum.

Mostly because people are spamming over there.

A simple answer which no company would pay up for such boards which isnt relevant on what they are promoting.Lets say a gambling company
launched a signature campaign then why would they consider on paying up the post which isnt even related to gambling? And so as with Off topic and other
boards which is barely being visited.

For you OP which do struggle on contributing on discussions due to knowledge limitation then you can still proceed on posting even though
its not being counted or simply a waste of effort but at least you are gaining and contributing to the community and also consider to step up
on reading every now and then and do learn a long the way gradually.

Word.  Obviously OP is just here to earn money and probably doesn't care much about bitcoin.  These are the types of people who shouldn't be here, because it's almost a certainty that every post they make is motivated by how much they're going to earn from it.  Hopefully OP does some reading in some of the more educational sections and actually comes to appreciate what bitcoin is all about--and maybe my assumptions are wrong, too.

And yeah, I was in the 777Coin campaign once, and they paid a bonus for posts in the gambling section if I recall correctly.  I'm not a gambler at all, so there wasn't much I could contribute in that section.  

Yep, I have P&S and Off-Topic on ignore, but I'm well aware they're both spam fests.  Campaigns probably think advertising there would be ineffective.

This is all very useful information, and your linked thread is excellent! I found it very helpful and encouraging. I will be referring to many times. Thanks for all the constructive advice. My heart was in the right place, I was doing just what you suggested and reading a lot,  and will continue to do so, until I feel confident enough to contribute something useful.

Lol, duly noted. It's true, there ain't no peace over there. I was there the whole time and I am amazed at the relatively civil and peaceful demeanor of folks out here in the outside. I'm staying put here for awhile and learning all these useful things. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Thank you, I am doing just that. And have found a lot of education in your response and all here. I am reading a lot and learning a lot every day. And have to I really appreciate your kind help.

Thank you, I will. Yes, now that I'm out here, at least on this help board, I want to keep learning and visit and study the other boards. Thanks for encouraging me to keep posting where I'm comfortable posting too.

Lol, got it. Thank you  But I do think the Life Magazine, music, politics and society, as well as the art I have seen here, is a nice addition.

I could have chosen any 1 of the 5 posts you just posted in this thread in the last hour to reply to, but it doesn't matter which 1 I chose to make my point.

You made this post worried about 1 particular section of the forum and it seems to me you still are clueless about the forum rules and should spend more time worrying about those, rather than earning money from signature campaigns.

When you are replying to multiple users in a thread, instead of quoting 1 person and replying to them, then choosing another person and replying to them in a separate post, Open a 2nd window and click reply in it,then go back to your other window and quote to the user you wish to reply to. Copy everything that pops up and paste it in the 1st window, then reply to them. Now go back to the 2nd window you have open and click quote on the next user and do the same. Keep doing it til you're done replying to users.





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The best answers to your question were posted by the 2 users I sent merits to in this thread. Also, Avery important post you need to read is UNOFFICIAL RULES (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0). You are currently breaking rule #32 and could face a ban if someone wants to be a dick.

It is very important for everyone to go through each section of the forum and read all the stickied posts. That's where you will learn the most about the forum and related section. If more users did this, then we'd see a little less rule breaking around here.

Now back on topic, we do not pay for that particular section because the ratio of good threads:bad threads is terrible. It's a waste of advertisers money. I'm strongly leaning towards some sort od restriction in the bitcoin discussion section, altcoin discussion section, and trading discussion boards as well.

Many altcoins campaigns will pay you in politics  and off topic section and if you are VERY NEW beginner & Help section might be useful to start with. You might have some very good point of view for politics (and you will not post there because of no money reward  :-\) and if you are willing to only post in sections where you have no knowledge, those will just be spam posts making no value for the readers.




Being a bitcoin forum, bitcoin discussion, and other sections are important, but in order to avoid the spam we can limit selective topics (which are too generic in nature) to 5 pages and mods should auto lock such threads.

There is multiple reasons why. Shortly, this board isn't crypto related and people posting there isn't their target audience. I think it would be strange if campsigns would pay for posts in that board. It's crypto forum, do you really expect to get paid for posts that has nothing with crypto.
@yahoo62278, I want to ask you one question. I find strange that in your campaigns posts in Beginners and help board aren't paid. Can you tell why? This board isn't spammy as Bitcoin/Altcoin discussion or trading discussion. And lot of high ranked members putting lot of efforts to their posts there to help newbies.

It is very possible that the campaign owner does not want to pay advertisement in the irelevant forum section. You can find on different Yahoo's campaign also different rules, like no local board or accepted local board posts. Campaign owners always have priority to make some rules, the campaign manager is there just to control everything as well.

exqmplens is mostly correct in his reply below. Some of the rules are put in place by the companies themselves.

Trust me I think all the discussion boards have gone to shit. 1 good thread out of every 50

All things or decisions will vary on the Project owner itself some might like to have no restriction on what boards they would specifically post as long they do give out publicity of their signature then it doesn't matter but mostly this do happen on Bounty altcoin programs but talking into usual btc campaigns then most of them do have the same rules
where Off topic and other non-relevant boards would really be excluded.

It's interesting how regularly this section is excluded. You'd think they may pick up some customers for life from there. I guess they've done their sums and they're not worth it. 



If you were awarded God Mode over this place what would you do to bring it to heel?

It's subjective and depends on the signature campaigns. It's easy to spam in those boards with low-quality content.

Obviously, you are on a crypto/bitcoin related forum. If none of these topics interest you, you shouldn't be here in the first place. If your only purpose to join forum is to earn money from signature campaigns, you're going to have a hard time here.

If the core topic that is blockchain/cryptos doesn't interest you, either learn them or go away.

Why don't you contribute your politics related ideas to a forum where those ideas will be appreciated? Find a politics-related forum. If you know nothing about the topic and you still contribute, we call it shit-posting which isn't liked by anyone. I'll keep a watch on your profile and keep reporting all your shit-posts.

just like me, it will be very difficult for newcomers to be able to mingle in this forum. especially with the limited knowledge we have,
but there is one that we must pay attention to in this forum.

we discuss in the sense that we have to discuss something that we consider important and we must ask,
I have previously made threads about something that has been discussed a lot, and there are a lot of very useful responses, one of which is a quote from

finaleshot2016 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=888099)

Re:

MERIT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5160072.msg51659897#msg51659897)

June 30, 2019, 02:48:53 PM

As long as the posts are quite helpful then it should be given merit and always stick to the right process, not to a dirty process.

If you want to learn how to create a quality threads/posts, read this: [GUIDE] Making Quality Thread + Grammar Check (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5154705.msg51480821#msg51480821/)
Grammar check was also included there. Goodluck!

and you can find many useful things in my thread

MERIT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5160072.msg51659897#msg51659897)

may be useful  ;D ;D

i see that your on a bounty campaign . bounty campaigns are not strict and i think most of them will allow any boards  . and there was once a sig campaign before that pays in bitcoin and they also allow any boards  .

the name of the campaign is stake but they didnt last long because they recieve lots of reports  . the reason why most campaigns restrict the said boards is that most of the topics thier are way too easy and its a nest for spammers  . the ads that you carry can easily be burried alive  .

There's nothing wrong with asking questions and putting yourself out there as someone who's just getting rolling.

If you ask the most painfully obvious questions that have turned up a million times over that's a different matter, but I've seen newcomers ask things that I either didn't know or hadn't reflected on. If everyone knew everything there wouldn't be much of a need to discuss anything.

I think that's why off topic and the section in question have become ghettoes. Newcomers seem to be more comfortable discussing things that have nothing to do with the subject of the forum. They're not going to produce any customers for the companies paying for advertising space.

Of course, some campaigns want leads and traffic from their website, they are paying people to do that, and since most of the campaigns are all about investing in cryptocurrency and betting in online gambling sites, it is just right that bounty manager ask their participants to target sections where they likely to get more leads.

in my knowledge and understanding I haven't found any two projects coming up with signature campaign proposal looking on politics or society based kind of things.
Mostly we can see gambling based projects only in signature campaigns, I hope you can understand those projects will looking for discussion going on gambling boards only. Maybe any political party come up with ICO means we can make posts on such sections I believe.

Well, I do want to get out of the ghetto. I just saw another thread where someone suggested a General Topic Board for new members, on trading/selling/ etc.  I posted there, that  I hope they do that. I will return here  and edit to give him credit.

Here is the quote.


Thank you very much, everyone who has contributed to this thread. I learned a lot. It was very helpful, educational an informative. And I'm going to lock it now, as I am understanding that's what I should do once the question is answered. Thanks to every single member here. And I will refer to it for review.