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Hi traders !

Here we are, me and my partners decided to start a new adventure, the pump and dump game!

For people who don't know what is a pump & dump:

The purpose of a pump & dump is as the name implies, to plan to significantly increase the value of a coin thanks to the mass effect.
Indeed, we can influence the value of a coin if we plan a pump. A date, a time and a coin will be communicated for the pump, and at this moment, all the members of the group will have to buy this coin, which will have the effect of increasing its value, and thus to excite its interest near the others users outside the group. This will further increase the value of the targeted coin. And after a few minutes, when the corner has reached a targeted value, it will be time to resell.

Here is the telegram group :

https://t.me/pumpgoat

Feel free to join the group, and if you don"t even if you don't have a lot of coins available, remember that the group effect does all the thing.
We plan to do our first pump and dump soon, so stay tunned!

RISK RISK RISK.

In the end, those pumps and dump initiators will win at the end of the day.

For those newbies who don't know how to properly deal with these kinds of group, don't be blinded by some precious words. I know there are some people who always test waters at these kinds of service but some already know the risks. And the fact that it's a "channel" then how come communication will be done. Just announce and that's it? Poor small ones will just be dragged washed away easily.

No disclaimers - just a pure expected profit - a big NO.

P.S I know you are not forcing anyone to join. You can take my comment as criticism, that's common when you open up any services. And feel free to counter it and show everyone how effective your service is.

there is nothing interesting there, this might be a new group there are no members there.
how you get new trust here, it's very difficult to convince people to join and trust PND signals.

Lets me explain this.

Its a stealing money method from other people by using group service only for their own purpose. most of them make a coins shilling, only admins, his partner or his friend getting a profit with buying on a low price and other people/member buying a high price.

They will choose a shitcoin with low volume trading & order books. The pump made not from them, but from the member group who make an instant purchase, if your money stuck on the high price then say goodbye to your money.

Very risky, I hope no one is interested in joining the group. You can lose your money if you make a wrong decision, better analyze your own market and enjoy the results yourself even though the results are not as expected. This can also be called an activity to manipulate the market, so that prices can go down and up from their buying and selling activities.

In such adventures, only those who organize this win.
After all, the pump occurs at the expense of the fraud participants, and the largest volumes, which later collapse the price, are at the initiators of the scheme hands.

Translation:

The organizers of this pump and dump will buy the coins weeks or even months before the rest of the members know about it, then when the time is right and there are enough members in the group the selected coin will be revealed, then once the price begins to pump the organizers will sell their coins crashing the market and getting all the money from those that decided to follow the signal, those people will be left with useless coins while the organizers laugh at them and enjoy their money.

Did I correctly translate the bold text?

What a pure lie!

This is just an excuse for deceiving newbies on this cryptospace.There no such thing on fair pump for everyone yet if there are
earners there would be those people who lose up their money specially to those who bought on the peak and your team decide
to dump your holdings that you had purchased earlier.

Not this time dude!

You are offering pump and dump services in telegram chanel, ofcourse the service offered isn't free to join, some of the channel I experience to join the dollect huge fees to get the potential coins to buy in trading signal, but for me is useless to join because I fee huge but yes because of volality moves of the crypto currency we trap from the signal they give from telegram channel, for me it's better to choose and decide to buy coin in my own way.

They will win big if many newbies believes on their signal, and for sure after the hype on this group they will create another group and called it “new pump and dump group”. This is a false advertisement, its a trap actually so if you so planning to join any pump and dump group, be careful. Better to learn trading, learn how to read on your own and make profit without depending on any trap signals.

Pump and dump is a scam that has been running since long. What newbies don't understand is there is somebody who is loosing money on the other side of the trade.
It can be you the next time. I remember loosing more than half of my investment in pump and dump when I was a newbie of course.
But I have learnt a lot since then and I can surely say it is not one a newbie or anybody should prefer.

Telegram 100% Risk for all. After doing research on the trade itself, then it is better to trade. Because many of these groups have been loss.. So I will tell you to have peace with my own experience but there is peace. So in my opinion, Lose yourself with your experience have a lot of peace everyone will be careful about this.

You talk as if you will get 100 percent compliance and loyalty from people, you will only find out that you are just working for people that will still betray you and will definitely be among you who would not comply, they will wait for others to pump the value and then go behind to go and dump the coin.

If you create such group, and 50% of people comply, definitely it will shoot the price of the coin above the current pump value, and before it gets to attract more investors to come in and add more fund out of FOMO, the remaining 50% would have dumped their own coin for the profit, thereby dropping the price back which will not encourage the rest to continue. There is no harm I trying though, but I doubt if anyone would be interested in such game with you.

I'm under the impression that pump-and-dump are frown upon by the community. So why are these guys still going at it? Lol, for sure there is no guarantee here and you might end up losing all your money. So for those newbies who are attracted and thinking of joining, I would say to stay away from this so called groups.

There have been many telegraph groups on pump and dump signals. some work groups are very professional and often quite accurate, but the risk of doing such missions is really high.
I have had profits up to 60% in just 5 minutes but also had more than 100% losses in just 5 minutes.
everything happens very quickly and the whales will leave us mercilessly.
I do not encourage people to participate in this type of transaction.

To some extent, I also think such actions have the right not purpose.  Nevertheless, each of us must understand that any information is capable of manipulating the opinion of the cryptocurrency user in order to perform rash actions.

Forum rank does not become the basis that he is a newbie in trading.
but the pump and dump signals are stupid things to share. Who will trust the seer.

hard to believe for those who think logically. if indeed that happens, then the group members will be all rich. I think this is just driving opinion to buy an altcoin that they point to and there is no proof at all of the truth

Let experience be their teacher, because no matter how much you talk and shout, we will still have people that will see a sense in the senseless idea that the op has, artificial pump is what has eventually destroyed some altcoins, and this has been their practice. For a project that has quality project, and one that has a very intelligent, passionate and active team with solid marketing strategy, I don’t think they need to pump a coin before they get sustainable value for their project.

The project product itself will speak for it, and people will generally announce projects that really have a working product for them to continue to get massive adoption for their product and their cryptocurrency. So I don’t see any sense why people would pay attention to such group.

Most of time it's really better for some newbies to really go to that experience and see how it feel like being betray by the group that supposedly going to make you money but ended up giving you the middle finger because they're able to deceived you.

So I'm sure after that, it will come down hard on them and make sense about why we are giving them warnings afterall about not joining this pump-and-dump. We are already in 2019, but I'm sure those group can still get potential victims to fall for their trick.

We have some newbies that are wise and do listen to advise, and it will be unfair to make them fall into some traps in crypto without warning them based on our experience too, the reason why we gather experience is not just for decoration, but for us to apply it into any of our situation where it fits in and also use it to build others too, and that is why they look up to us.

We have not then showed maturity if we allow them to pass through bitter experience when we can easily talk them out of that wrong step they are about to make, we have to continue to do our own part, it is  now left for whoever wishes to take the advice to do or discard it. There is no pump and dump coin that ever see the light of the day, no two ways about it.

We have shown maturity when we have given correct advice to the beginner. But those who don't listen to us never show maturity. Many beginners know that pump and dump coin are wrong, but many of them feel that they don't care about it, they pursue profits. Therefore let them learn from experience, we can only give the right advice, the rest of them determine the way.

I always thought about who dares to take into account all these proposals that are printed in the Telegram.  Nevertheless, apparently someone turns his attention to this information.  Maybe not even newbies.  But I still appeal to be cautious and not feed the scammers.

Wise for those who listen and for those fools who tends to proceed.Its been said and advised for how many times that these groups are just frauds.
From its name itself pump and dump you would able to spot out that these groups are just clearly making money for those people who get in too late.
People do eventually learn in the end when they already lost up money.

This is very risky and should not be believed to be better because there are thousands of relevant telegram channels on this issue and always make investors lose a great deal. I think investing our way is the safest because you can easily analyze and evaluate each different coin. Anyway, everyone's decision is different and don't trust anyone in telegram because everyone there is anonymous.

There may have huge risk in any telegram or other group which give signal to it's members. The initial will make profit otherwise maximum don't. If maximum can't do then it can't be suggested for everyone from my side. Already made huge lose from a telegram paid group, so I don't want to join in any new.

Pump and dump is not fun, it's like gambling but it's not fun really.
I'd rather improve myself to become a good trader than play with your guys, and if I love to gamble, definitely it's not the pump and dump game, I'll choose sports for that matter.

Actually I never try to take part with pump and dump group since there is many people who says pump and dump group are scam. I think to gain profit in my investment is I have to increase my knowledge against cryptocurrency. I have to choose the potential coin/token where this coin/token will be needed in the future, so for me to gain a lot of profit is not through in an instant way, I must have a high patience to wait the real demand for the coin/token is really comes. And I see pump and dump group is like gambling, the chance for I get the win only 10%.

I will advice traders to stay away from such groups as its just a means for you to lose your funds.  The group owners enter into a trade at a very comfortable entry point,  they lure other traders and dump on them unexpectedly

You should promote any group where lots of people are active and the signals work smoothly. But you have shared a channel that has only 2 members. So it does not fair I think. And personally I want to say that I don't like any pump dump group like this one.

3 weeks after creating this thread I see that you only have 2 members

https://i.imgur.com/Mo8PQBl.png

People are aware that this pump and dump scheme is very dangerous and just destroys the crypto market. But there is something that made me curious in your post history:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2269511;sa=showPosts

it seems to me that you are now different from the person of the past

Pump and dump group has create more problems for new investors more than the way their think it should be. I have a friend that did not know how things work and go ahead to join the pump and dump group like the one op is claiming and at the end their dump on him and he lose almost all the capital that he work for months to raise.