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Title: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 07, 2019, 11:02:47 PM
And my post(s) removed.



I thought was a free speech forum?



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Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 07, 2019, 11:39:28 PM
Why do you say you got banned?  Did you get another message saying that?  If so, you risk a permaban by posting.
If you don't read and understand the rules, your posts will be deleted.  It is also against the rules to make multiple posts in quick succession as you have done here (see rule #32)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0



Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 07, 2019, 11:45:03 PM
Why do you say you got banned?  Did you get another message saying that?  If so, you risk a permaban by posting.
If you don't read and understand the rules, your posts will be deleted.  It is also against the rules to make multiple posts in quick succession as you have done here (see rule #32)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0


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Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 07, 2019, 11:48:46 PM
Why do you say you got banned?  Did you get another message saying that?  If so, you risk a permaban by posting.
If you don't read and understand the rules, your posts will be deleted.  It is also against the rules to make multiple posts in quick succession as you have done here (see rule #32)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0


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 That's the same image you posted earlier and it doesn't say anything about a ban. 


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 07, 2019, 11:55:35 PM
Why do you say you got banned?  Did you get another message saying that?  If so, you risk a permaban by posting.
If you don't read and understand the rules, your posts will be deleted.  It is also against the rules to make multiple posts in quick succession as you have done here (see rule #32)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0


https://prnt.sc/obuwht

 That's the same image you posted earlier and it doesn't say anything about a ban. 

Exactly. There was no reason given in the email WHY my post was removed.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 08, 2019, 12:06:25 AM
Why do you say you got banned?  Did you get another message saying that?  If so, you risk a permaban by posting.
If you don't read and understand the rules, your posts will be deleted.  It is also against the rules to make multiple posts in quick succession as you have done here (see rule #32)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0


https://prnt.sc/obuwht

 That's the same image you posted earlier and it doesn't say anything about a ban. 

Exactly. There was no reason given in the email WHY my post was removed.

That's not shadow banning - in this case, you were apprised of the deletion so there was nothing stealthy about it.  You simply had a post deleted because you broke a forum rule.  Happens to the best of us.
Did you read the rules yet?  Maybe you can figure out why your post was deleted.



Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fuer44 on July 08, 2019, 12:08:52 AM
I thought was a free speech forum?
this is not freedom of speech, yes indeed here we can express our opinions personally but must comply with the rules, and in accordance with the topics discussed. if it is off topic, it will definitely be deleted and if many posts have been deleted then the impact will be that you will get permanently banned.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 08, 2019, 12:16:14 AM
Why do you say you got banned?  Did you get another message saying that?  If so, you risk a permaban by posting.
If you don't read and understand the rules, your posts will be deleted.  It is also against the rules to make multiple posts in quick succession as you have done here (see rule #32)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0


https://prnt.sc/obuwht

 That's the same image you posted earlier and it doesn't say anything about a ban.  

Exactly. There was no reason given in the email WHY my post was removed.

That's not shadow banning - in this case, you were apprised of the deletion so there was nothing stealthy about it.  You simply had a post deleted because you broke a forum rule.  Happens to the best of us.
Did you read the rules yet?  Maybe you can figure out why your post was deleted.


No, I haven't read the rules. Why wasn't I given a reason in the email why my post was removed?


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 08, 2019, 12:25:01 AM
Why do you say you got banned?  Did you get another message saying that?  If so, you risk a permaban by posting.
If you don't read and understand the rules, your posts will be deleted.  It is also against the rules to make multiple posts in quick succession as you have done here (see rule #32)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0


https://prnt.sc/obuwht

 That's the same image you posted earlier and it doesn't say anything about a ban.  

Exactly. There was no reason given in the email WHY my post was removed.

That's not shadow banning - in this case, you were apprised of the deletion so there was nothing stealthy about it.  You simply had a post deleted because you broke a forum rule.  Happens to the best of us.
Did you read the rules yet?  Maybe you can figure out why your post was deleted.


No, I haven't read the rules. Why wasn't I given a reason in the email why my post was removed?

 Read the rules.
 There are many deletions daily; it's a waste of an admin's time to enter a reason for each deletion.
You received an automated message and no action other than the deletion itself is required for that to occur.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 08, 2019, 12:35:30 AM
It's too bad my thread was deleted and my replies removed. It was starting to get juicy! lol


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 08, 2019, 12:38:57 AM
It's too bad my thread was deleted and my replies removed. It was starting to get juicy! lol

 If you had posted in the proper section perhaps we would all have been able to enjoy your words... sadly you had not informed yourself of the rules and have thereby deprived many of us of the juicy details.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 08, 2019, 12:47:35 AM
It's too bad my thread was deleted and my replies removed. It was starting to get juicy! lol

 If you had posted in the proper section perhaps we would all have been able to enjoy your words... sadly you had not informed yourself of the rules and have thereby deprived many of us of the juicy details.
My post was about an idea I had about a Dapp on Ethereum. Where else was it supposed to go?


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 08, 2019, 12:58:44 AM
It's too bad my thread was deleted and my replies removed. It was starting to get juicy! lol

 If you had posted in the proper section perhaps we would all have been able to enjoy your words... sadly you had not informed yourself of the rules and have thereby deprived many of us of the juicy details.
My post was about an idea I had about a Dapp on Ethereum. Where else was it supposed to go?
I'm going to repost here what got deleted and see if happens again.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fortunecrypto on July 08, 2019, 01:05:09 AM
It's too bad my thread was deleted and my replies removed. It was starting to get juicy! lol

You will eventually get bad for posting crap and doing multiple posts within a matter of minutes, a newbie like you should first go to help and beginners section and on meta section too to understand how this forum works and check it's rules and guidelines.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 08, 2019, 01:08:19 AM
It's too bad my thread was deleted and my replies removed. It was starting to get juicy! lol

 If you had posted in the proper section perhaps we would all have been able to enjoy your words... sadly you had not informed yourself of the rules and have thereby deprived many of us of the juicy details.
My post was about an idea I had about a Dapp on Ethereum. Where else was it supposed to go?
I'm going to repost here what got deleted and see if happens again.
Subject: Would You Invest In this?

Why or why not?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ug4z1t2OofGW_DTsNuaid83K6rUS_tO5XzCvjK0ONzg/edit

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SN1Q3XMgWH69U7-WQQHKgEqdNAjvWTBj85ObXatE7RA/edit


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 08, 2019, 01:36:47 AM
It's too bad my thread was deleted and my replies removed. It was starting to get juicy! lol

 If you had posted in the proper section perhaps we would all have been able to enjoy your words... sadly you had not informed yourself of the rules and have thereby deprived many of us of the juicy details.
My post was about an idea I had about a Dapp on Ethereum. Where else was it supposed to go?
I'm going to repost here what got deleted and see if happens again.
Subject: Would You Invest In this?

Why or why not?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ug4z1t2OofGW_DTsNuaid83K6rUS_tO5XzCvjK0ONzg/edit

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SN1Q3XMgWH69U7-WQQHKgEqdNAjvWTBj85ObXatE7RA/edit

 Man, you really have to read the rules.  This thread belongs in Meta since it is not altcoin discussion rather it is a complaint about board policy.
Your "Would you invest in this?" post belongs in Altcoin Speculation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=224.0) (best case scenario) but in all likelihood you have broken the very first rule since there is no locally available content to go with your question and a member would have to follow a link to find out what you want:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.

 

 


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 08, 2019, 01:41:47 AM
It's too bad my thread was deleted and my replies removed. It was starting to get juicy! lol

 If you had posted in the proper section perhaps we would all have been able to enjoy your words... sadly you had not informed yourself of the rules and have thereby deprived many of us of the juicy details.
My post was about an idea I had about a Dapp on Ethereum. Where else was it supposed to go?
I'm going to repost here what got deleted and see if happens again.
Subject: Would You Invest In this?

Why or why not?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ug4z1t2OofGW_DTsNuaid83K6rUS_tO5XzCvjK0ONzg/edit

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SN1Q3XMgWH69U7-WQQHKgEqdNAjvWTBj85ObXatE7RA/edit

 Man, you really have to read the rules.  This thread belongs in Meta since it is not altcoin discussion rather it is a complaint about board policy.
Your "Would you invest in this?" post belongs in Altcoin Speculation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=224.0) (best case scenario) but in all likelihood you have broken the very first rule since there is no locally available content to go with your question and a member would have to follow a link to find out what you want:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.

 

 
Thanks for clearing that up.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 08, 2019, 02:16:13 AM
It's too bad my thread was deleted and my replies removed. It was starting to get juicy! lol

 If you had posted in the proper section perhaps we would all have been able to enjoy your words... sadly you had not informed yourself of the rules and have thereby deprived many of us of the juicy details.
My post was about an idea I had about a Dapp on Ethereum. Where else was it supposed to go?
I'm going to repost here what got deleted and see if happens again.
Subject: Would You Invest In this?

Why or why not?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ug4z1t2OofGW_DTsNuaid83K6rUS_tO5XzCvjK0ONzg/edit

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SN1Q3XMgWH69U7-WQQHKgEqdNAjvWTBj85ObXatE7RA/edit

 Man, you really have to read the rules.  This thread belongs in Meta since it is not altcoin discussion rather it is a complaint about board policy.
Your "Would you invest in this?" post belongs in Altcoin Speculation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=224.0) (best case scenario) but in all likelihood you have broken the very first rule since there is no locally available content to go with your question and a member would have to follow a link to find out what you want:

1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads.

 

 
Done: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5162830.new#new


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: xhomerx10 on July 08, 2019, 02:18:47 AM
Good but why didn't you simply paste the text from the docs into your post?  Generally, people don't trust links.



Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 08, 2019, 02:28:35 AM
Good but why didn't you simply paste the text from the docs into your post?  Generally, people don't trust links.


Thanks for your suggestion. Sharing the docs on Google Docs seems easier and looks cleaner to me.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: Saisher on July 08, 2019, 02:51:43 AM
Good but why didn't you simply paste the text from the docs into your post?  Generally, people don't trust links.


Thanks for your suggestion. Sharing the docs on Google Docs seems easier and looks cleaner to me.

You are inviting to report you to the moderator it's better to reconstruct your post here delete some of it, or it's better to lock this thread to avoid people from reporting this thread, it doesn't look good here.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 08, 2019, 02:56:49 AM
Good but why didn't you simply paste the text from the docs into your post?  Generally, people don't trust links.


Thanks for your suggestion. Sharing the docs on Google Docs seems easier and looks cleaner to me.

You are inviting to report you to the moderator it's better to reconstruct your post here delete some of it, or it's better to lock this thread to avoid people from reporting this thread, it doesn't look good here.
This thread was moved to Meta


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 08, 2019, 03:16:33 AM
I wonder why my original post was deleted and not moved like this one?


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on July 08, 2019, 08:31:58 AM
I'm not surprised that your posts got deleted. After you were warned that it's against the rules to make multiple posts in a short time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5162800.msg51746117#msg51746117) in your first reply, you just ingored it and continue to multipost. This is not a chatroom. Edit your previous post if you want to add something new.
Read the rules and take them seriously, otherwise you probably will be banned one day.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: DdmrDdmr on July 08, 2019, 09:44:30 AM
I wonder why my original post was deleted and not moved like this one?
You might have got your first posts deleted on this thread for creating multiple posts in a row is a short time span. Nevertheless, the thread picked up traction with answers, and may have therefore been moved to its proper location instead of deleted.

The original thread looked like this (similar to what you’ve indicated here at some point):
 https://web.archive.org/web/20190708093934/http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5162522.0
The OP in that deleted thread does no explain barely anything, and the core of the post needs to be retrieved from a couple of google docs. It was likely reported for spam and accepted as such. The OP should be more elaborate in itself.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: SaltySpitoon on July 09, 2019, 04:23:05 AM
I'm going to repost here what got deleted and see if happens again.

Just felt the need to say that this is typically not a good idea. I haven't followed any additional links in this thread, but if you are correct in saying that your thread was deleted because it was in the wrong section, you won't have a problem recreating the thread but this time in the proper section. If your thread was deleted because of the content and you repost it, the consequences get more severe.

Having a post/thread deleted is a moderator warning. You don't typically get PMs in detail explaining what the problem was, its expected that people can reskim the rules and figure it out, if not threads like this in meta show up and people will try to help you figure it out. If you repeat an action that you get a warning for, your chance of more severe consequences such as ban time increases.

Again, not to scare you, if you are correct that the problem was that your thread was in the wrong section you are fine, but I'd try to confirm that because as mentioned earlier, threads in the wrong section will more often than not be moved to the correct section rather than just sent to the trash.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 09, 2019, 08:05:25 PM
updates: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ug4z1t2OofGW_DTsNuaid83K6rUS_tO5XzCvjK0ONzg/edit (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ug4z1t2OofGW_DTsNuaid83K6rUS_tO5XzCvjK0ONzg/edit)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sjQAvVLCPHhXSd9KE9paxX8jsOtdY7qOFPlE1NZ-xIg/edit (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sjQAvVLCPHhXSd9KE9paxX8jsOtdY7qOFPlE1NZ-xIg/edit)


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: actmyname on July 09, 2019, 08:12:28 PM
Just for future reference, I would also stop multi-posting (i.e. creating consecutive thread replies) and start editing posts if you need to update something.
If a bump is necessary, then wait 24 hours and republish the post. Otherwise, you're just creating spam.

*when a thread has a new edited reply, it becomes marked as "unread" again*


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 09, 2019, 08:29:37 PM
Just for future reference, I would also stop multi-posting (i.e. creating consecutive thread replies) and start editing posts if you need to update something.
If a bump is necessary, then wait 24 hours and republish the post. Otherwise, you're just creating spam.

*when a thread has a new edited reply, it becomes marked as "unread" again*
Hi, thanks for your advise.

All of the updates are done on Google Docs, so if you want to view the updates, you must click on the links in the opening paragraph (OP).

I'm simply making it easier to view the updates by reposting the links without having to navigate back to it.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: actmyname on July 09, 2019, 08:31:51 PM
Hi, thanks for your advise.

All of the updates are done on Google Docs, so if you want to view the updates, you must click on the links in the opening paragraph (OP).

I'm simply making it easier to view the updates by reposting the links.
I meant as in your posts.

You should not be making multiple forum posts in succession within a given thread. Additional information may be appended to previous posts with the edit button which will also update the thread's unread status for those that have viewed a previous update.

This is unrelated to your Google document. (never mind the fact that it's Google).


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: bitart on July 09, 2019, 08:42:29 PM
...
All of the updates are done on Google Docs, so if you want to view the updates, you must click on the links in the opening paragraph (OP).

I'm simply making it easier to view the updates by reposting the links.
It's still a fact that people don't like to follow external links (even google document links).
There's always a small chance that it contains virus/unexpected harmful content...
Why don't you just create a new post if there's an update in the docs?
That would move your thread to the top of the list and more people would read your thread... if you just update the google docs and you don't touch your thread it will be on the end of the topic list and nobody would check in to read your updated stuff...
Just my 2 sats


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: fatsy on July 09, 2019, 09:12:21 PM
...
All of the updates are done on Google Docs, so if you want to view the updates, you must click on the links in the opening paragraph (OP).

I'm simply making it easier to view the updates by reposting the links.
It's still a fact that people don't like to follow external links (even google document links).
There's always a small chance that it contains virus/unexpected harmful content...
Why don't you just create a new post if there's an update in the docs?
That would move your thread to the top of the list and more people would read your thread... if you just update the google docs and you don't touch your thread it will be on the end of the topic list and nobody would check in to read your updated stuff...
Just my 2 sats
Thanks for your feedback. I plan to start a new thread once the Dapp is ready.


Title: Re: I got shadowbanned!
Post by: eternalgloom on July 10, 2019, 01:43:34 PM
Don't think it has already been suggested here, but seems to me like this would be a good fit for Project Development, but with another title.
Also ditch the Google Docs and just write everything in the OP and update that.