Title: Resolved :) Post by: Unluckyduck on March 15, 2014, 05:55:30 AM John K has delivered the coins ;D
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: roslinpl on March 15, 2014, 11:44:17 AM John please fulfill your contractual obligations soon so that you don't throw your reputation away over 100btc. Hmm perhaps he will throw his rep away :) Is his rep worth 100BTC? :) Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Rawted on March 15, 2014, 12:06:07 PM It's a shame. I've used him once for escrow in the past and it was slow and he never lived up to his end (but did send the funds after a delay). One side of me wants to think that he wouldn't scam (being so involved in blockchain), but the other half of me realizes that a large percentage of early adopters are scammers.
Here's hoping you get your coins back gents. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: hilariousandco on March 15, 2014, 01:01:38 PM It's a shame. I've used him once for escrow in the past and it was slow and he never lived up to his end (but did send the funds after a delay). One side of me wants to think that he wouldn't scam (being so involved in blockchain), but the other half of me realizes that a large percentage of early adopters are scammers. What's more puzzling / a bigger mystery is why would he return the 1000 forum coins but not these 100. It doesn't make sense. Does he have any other money still held in escrows? Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: roslinpl on March 15, 2014, 08:15:28 PM What to do... :)
Live's go on. :) Winner is still a winner :) just he do not get his price :P :) Cheers! Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: lemfuture on March 15, 2014, 08:19:40 PM thanks for notifying the community
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Justin00 on March 15, 2014, 10:39:45 PM not really.. theymos has his ips..real email... his details i would imagine (alltho aparantly theymos does not ask for id.. he just gets randoms to hold money for him)
much bigger chance than anyone else finding him... It's a shame. I've used him once for escrow in the past and it was slow and he never lived up to his end (but did send the funds after a delay). One side of me wants to think that he wouldn't scam (being so involved in blockchain), but the other half of me realizes that a large percentage of early adopters are scammers. What's more puzzling / a bigger mystery is why would he return the 1000 forum coins but not these 100. It doesn't make sense. Does he have any other money still held in escrows? Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: roslinpl on March 15, 2014, 11:06:17 PM thanks for notifying the community :) well... but a good thing :) nobody lost any BTC :) Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: OnkelPaul on March 18, 2014, 09:58:31 AM Don't know if anyone else noticed that the bitcoin betting site betsofbitco.in went into autopilot mode (bets not being resolved, access and withdrawal not really reliable) around the same time. Could there be a connection? I have not investigated any further, just noticed the similar pattern and timing.
Onkel Paul Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: beenyce on March 19, 2014, 09:00:47 AM It's a shame. I've used him once for escrow in the past and it was slow and he never lived up to his end (but did send the funds after a delay). One side of me wants to think that he wouldn't scam (being so involved in blockchain), but the other half of me realizes that a large percentage of early adopters are scammers. What's more puzzling / a bigger mystery is why would he return the 1000 forum coins but not these 100. It doesn't make sense. Does he have any other money still held in escrows? yes he still is holding money for this group buy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.0 (check last few pages) Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: hilariousandco on March 19, 2014, 11:14:45 AM It's a shame. I've used him once for escrow in the past and it was slow and he never lived up to his end (but did send the funds after a delay). One side of me wants to think that he wouldn't scam (being so involved in blockchain), but the other half of me realizes that a large percentage of early adopters are scammers. What's more puzzling / a bigger mystery is why would he return the 1000 forum coins but not these 100. It doesn't make sense. Does he have any other money still held in escrows? yes he still is holding money for this group buy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.0 (check last few pages) How much is he holding for that? Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Revolution on March 19, 2014, 05:46:19 PM he is holding 100 BTC if I am correct
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: hilariousandco on March 20, 2014, 07:41:39 AM he is holding 100 BTC if I am correct He's holding 100BTC for the raffle. Is he also holding 100 for the groupbuy? Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: bigtimespaghetti on March 21, 2014, 11:17:22 AM Thank you for doing this unluckyduck!
I think we need to face facts that JohnK may not be coming back and Coinroll seem disinterested in even trying to make things right even though they benefited from a large amount of advertising. It's particularly annoying as a winner, but we are only a small group that are following this. I do think it's worth keeping this issue alive for a while though. Any other thoughts on courses of action? Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: bigtimespaghetti on March 21, 2014, 11:55:40 AM Also, please update my address as that's a wallet which is now out of use and potentially compromised.
1Kgd4dPMyUbveqpdQKGnbm5u2oEaPzvjux Thanks :) Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Amph on March 21, 2014, 04:38:39 PM tnx for this thread, i was hating how no one seems to care anymore about this raffle, as if it was not counting anything
also there is no excuse anymore, the winners were confirmed by Scrat, it's just a matter of few clicks to send the corresponding reward, you need like 5 min to do this... Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: hilariousandco on March 21, 2014, 04:59:51 PM Any other thoughts on courses of action? Do we have any word from theymos whether he actually contacted John about this matter? It might be a good idea to start filling this thread with all the info people have on John - known email addresses and other details etc. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: counter on March 21, 2014, 06:51:19 PM I really can't believe this issue is still up in the air. There should be some kind of updates from those who no john k and have worked closely with him over the years. The is a shocking turn of event indeed.
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: bigtimespaghetti on March 22, 2014, 10:09:55 AM I really can't believe this issue is still up in the air. There should be some kind of updates from those who no john k and have worked closely with him over the years. The is a shocking turn of event indeed. My thoughts exactly. It makes no sense. Which leads me to believe that there is/was/will be no interest of Theymos to provide any info or even just an opinion on this. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Unluckyduck on March 25, 2014, 04:11:54 AM Bump
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Maidak on March 25, 2014, 05:02:09 AM Can use my free escrow in the meantime :) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133985.0
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Amph on March 27, 2014, 07:57:36 AM still nothing, i'm very upset about this
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: OnkelPaul on March 27, 2014, 01:15:48 PM Same here. I would kill myself if I won 5 Bitcoins and not get it Don't. Your life is probably worth more than 5BTC, even if you consider future increase in exchange rate. Onkel Paul Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Bitcoinpro on March 27, 2014, 10:24:58 PM I really can't believe this issue is still up in the air. There should be some kind of updates from those who no john k and have worked closely with him over the years. The is a shocking turn of event indeed. you have worked closely with him? Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: rmines on March 27, 2014, 10:26:51 PM Wow this really sucks..I always thought of John K as the most trustworthy member providing escrow services on this board..
I hope this will get solved as soon as possible and he doesn't turn out to be a scammer! Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: hilariousandco on March 28, 2014, 12:41:29 PM I really can't believe this issue is still up in the air. There should be some kind of updates from those who no john k and have worked closely with him over the years. The is a shocking turn of event indeed. you have worked closely with him? He's saying there should be more input from those who have dealt with or known him for longer, but those people probably know as much about him personally as we do. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: roslinpl on March 28, 2014, 01:04:49 PM Same here. I would kill myself if I won 5 Bitcoins and not get it Don't. Your life is probably worth more than 5BTC, even if you consider future increase in exchange rate. Onkel Paul Indeed. Life is priceless.... so you can commit suicide for free if you really want to :P There is no price for human life (except hiring serial killer for 120BTC - then the price is 120BTC) Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Unluckyduck on March 28, 2014, 09:34:50 PM Same here. I would kill myself if I won 5 Bitcoins and not get it Don't. Your life is probably worth more than 5BTC, even if you consider future increase in exchange rate. Onkel Paul Indeed. Life is priceless.... so you can commit suicide for free if you really want to :P There is no price for human life (except hiring serial killer for 120BTC - then the price is 120BTC) Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: freedomno1 on March 29, 2014, 07:24:35 AM Addition: John K is also the present escrow Holder for an Avalon group buy
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.0 Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: bigtimespaghetti on March 29, 2014, 08:20:17 AM Addition: John K is also the present escrow Holder for an Avalon group buy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.0 Does that mean that some people got some Avalon and Avalon was not paid? Tragedy. ;-) Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: freedomno1 on March 29, 2014, 10:53:01 PM Addition: John K is also the present escrow Holder for an Avalon group buy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.0 Does that mean that some people got some Avalon and Avalon was not paid? Tragedy. ;-) Lol well in a sense he saved them from a worse fate but this assumes he logs in and performs a refund ;) Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Unluckyduck on April 03, 2014, 04:40:36 AM bump
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: thecoinjournal on April 05, 2014, 02:52:21 AM Is John K the operator of the scam dice site letsdice?
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: hilariousandco on April 05, 2014, 08:41:58 AM Is John K the operator of the scam dice site letsdice? First I've heard of it if he is. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: DiamondCardz on April 05, 2014, 02:03:26 PM Is John K the operator of the scam dice site letsdice? I do doubt that John K would operate a dice site, scam or not. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: yurimir on April 08, 2014, 06:41:31 PM Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: V.Kodoff on April 09, 2014, 08:45:00 AM For everyone who like to start case in the court,feel free to contact us.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556208.0 Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Amph on April 11, 2014, 08:36:32 PM if you think that i will forgot this, you are wrong John
i'll keep bumping to death Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Unluckyduck on April 16, 2014, 01:58:54 AM bump
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: STT on April 16, 2014, 03:12:18 AM Instead of scamming, maybe its the other way round. Was he in control of a large amount of btc and someone got to him.
It would kinda explain his brief reappearance to assure the masses. However I believe people said certain wallets were untouched, that'd not make alot of sense with price falling as well. My original guess was illness, it may also just be apathy and disregard. People often drop out of virtual communities just because its not interesting anymore, Mr sat himself of course went. Its not a scam that adds up is it, unless there some other greater unknown loss? Quote Total BTC PER order is 782.1 BTC! I presume he was not holding that alone. All this seems very badly setup, was there no dead mans switch, no co signatory ? Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: hilariousandco on April 16, 2014, 09:34:30 AM Instead of scamming, maybe its the other way round. Was he in control of a large amount of btc and someone got to him. It would kinda explain his brief reappearance to assure the masses. However I believe people said certain wallets were untouched, that'd not make alot of sense with price falling as well. My original guess was illness, it may also just be apathy and disregard. People often drop out of virtual communities just because its not interesting anymore, Mr sat himself of course went. Its not a scam that adds up is it, unless there some other greater unknown loss? Quote Total BTC PER order is 782.1 BTC! I presume he was not holding that alone. All this seems very badly setup, was there no dead mans switch, no co signatory ? Regardless of any of that he didn't seem to give anyone warnings of his prior absences when he went travelling or whatnot. The least he could do was tell people before he went away or sort his current escrow deals out before doing so. If he was well enough to return the forums coins why not the rest? I'm sure it'll remain a mystery unless he returns. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: counter on April 16, 2014, 10:26:43 AM I just find it odd that someone who was so active on the forum not to mention trusted would just throw away a positive rep for seemingly no good reason. I don't understand it and I find the issue bizarre is all I'm saying.
Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: hilariousandco on April 16, 2014, 10:37:57 AM I just find it odd that someone who was so active on the forum not to mention trusted would just throw away a positive rep for seemingly no good reason. I don't understand it and I find the issue bizarre is all I'm saying. Maybe he is really ill or worse. I just find it odd that someone who was so active on the forum not to mention trusted would just throw away a positive rep for seemingly no good reason. I don't understand it and I find the issue bizarre is all I'm saying. A good reason may have been the several hundred btc he holds of other peoples money Then why return the forums thousand coins? He could've waited and collected even bigger escrows and then vanished with the lot. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: DiamondCardz on April 16, 2014, 10:57:08 AM I just find it odd that someone who was so active on the forum not to mention trusted would just throw away a positive rep for seemingly no good reason. I don't understand it and I find the issue bizarre is all I'm saying. A good reason may have been the several hundred btc he holds of other peoples money He returned 1000 BTC he held for the forums. Why didn't he just take that? Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Kluge on April 16, 2014, 11:11:39 AM Seems like a good opportunity for an upstart news agency to try their hand at real investigative journalism. He could come back in a year, say he was being digested by a lion but broke free once an alien beamed him out and was surprised to hear from John that the government denies having ever been contacted by aliens, then was kept in solitary confinement by the FBI under a very-forced gag order to keep the scandal from getting out, where they also forced him to turn over the coins... and I'd probably believe him. I mean - I'm not saying it is... but it was definitely aliens.
Have the coins ever left the escrow address? Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: hilariousandco on April 16, 2014, 12:13:10 PM Seems like a good opportunity for an upstart news agency to try their hand at real investigative journalism. He could come back in a year, say he was being digested by a lion but broke free once an alien beamed him out and was surprised to hear from John that the government denies having ever been contacted by aliens, then was kept in solitary confinement by the FBI under a very-forced gag order to keep the scandal from getting out, where they also forced him to turn over the coins... and I'd probably believe him. I mean - I'm not saying it is... but it was definitely aliens. Have the coins ever left the escrow address? He's online and sending back the raffle coins now apparently (see his profile / last posts). The coins he held never moved as far as I'm aware. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: Amph on April 16, 2014, 12:15:25 PM he is back bitches
and btc delivered Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: John (John K.) on April 16, 2014, 12:26:16 PM Just back after a personal emergency/health reasons. No, the funds (or any BTC funds I personally control etc) weren't touched/moved during my hiatus, simply because I didn't even had the strength/time to go through my personal emails.
Unless I'm wrong, I confirm that I've only held 100 BTC in this raffle and 54.~ BTC in RagingAzn's group buy during my hiatus, the former which I've already released, and the latter which I'm still working out with the members involved. (accounting issues) And yes, if I really wanted to run or do anything God forbade, I would carry that out when I still held more BTC. I held on average 2-3k BTC for others on a daily basis last time. PS: Just saw this post. PPS: Nope, no aliens or the government. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: rmines on April 16, 2014, 07:48:14 PM I hope everything will get sorted out now, and everybody will get their coins back.
John K.: are you fully recovered now? Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: John (John K.) on April 16, 2014, 07:58:52 PM I hope everything will get sorted out now, and everybody will get their coins back. John K.: are you fully recovered now? Yep, all that it remains is a fraction of the GB funds I still currently hold and waiting for some of the participants to reply. (about 54.~BTC) I'm still somewhat recovering, but be rest assured that I'll gradually get more time in the near future. It's more about sorting out the backlog I've managed to rack up in RL over the months. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: DiamondCardz on April 16, 2014, 08:13:05 PM I hope everything will get sorted out now, and everybody will get their coins back. John K.: are you fully recovered now? Yep, all that it remains is a fraction of the GB funds I still currently hold and waiting for some of the participants to reply. (about 54.~BTC) I'm still somewhat recovering, but be rest assured that I'll gradually get more time in the near future. It's more about sorting out the backlog I've managed to rack up in RL over the months. Awesome, it's great to hear that we're making some good progress. Title: Re: Possible Scammer - John K Post by: freedomno1 on April 16, 2014, 11:22:11 PM PPS: Nope, no aliens or the government. Good to hear also think you missed or Malaysian airliners :) Title: Re: Resolved :) Post by: hilariousandco on April 17, 2014, 06:52:03 PM If everything's resolved it's probably best to lock this topic now.
Title: Re: Resolved :) Post by: STT on April 18, 2014, 02:27:21 AM He is back from the dead, is this just coincidence or is there a deeper meaning
gone for 3 months, now risen. Its a miracle, wish I'd bought that half price ticket now :o Title: Re: Resolved :) Post by: freedomno1 on April 18, 2014, 02:28:24 AM If everything's resolved it's probably best to lock this topic now. Well archive it but something along those lines works fine since it was resolved Probably fine not to lock it for a while just so people can see it who aren't online all the time Title: Re: Resolved :) Post by: bigtimespaghetti on April 18, 2014, 05:07:00 AM This is great news for all the winners.
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