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Before you start complaining that bounty managers change bounty rules after bounty ended or KYC was later implemented do you read the bounty rules and regulations?

Many bounties have already says it all in their rules and regulations that 'THE BOUNTY MANAGER HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE RULES AT ANY TIME' when you see something like that always know that anything can happen ,the one way to avoid this is if there is no such rules on the bounty thread.

Bounty hunters still find it very hard to read,they care less about rules and go for the good looking bounty allocation, please have patience and go through rules and regulations ,most times its not always the bounty managers fault.

Not the fact that many companies on the bounty follow these canons. Since the text can always be edited. I had a situation when a kyc was introduced at the end of the company, and I took a screenshot and sent it to the team. To which I was told that this is a necessary measure to combat bots. Earnings in the bounty is based only on trust.

Rules are subject to change as the bounty manager deem fit, you cannot hold them accountable since they are the ones that make and enforce the rules, my approach is to go with managers that have been honest and fair in theor management of their bounties.

that is very correct.  There has been many posts recently on the forum and some hunters complaining about rules change etc. If they have read the bounty rules in the begining, they will not be blaming anyone about the rules change

that's the main problem because those who are creating complain about that didn't even wanna read about there was a rules if the team or manager have right to change or put the new rules anytime. They should be careful to read whole of thread properly.

I always try my possible best to read any bounty rules and regulations before joining.  I read them because I want to be sure that it is something I can abide.  I have made mistakes before by not reading the rules and it has hurt me so I don't make such mistakes again.

When that words are present, there is no need to complain if read that and still choose to join the campaign.
If there's a campaign like that but not manage by a reputable bounty manager, honestly I would not join, but if the project is has a good potential then I may consider. Bounty just have a simple rules but I'm sure if the project were able to raise a decent amount especially if the hit their hard cap, they would sure not reduce the bounty, they may even increase it, however, the trend does not say so as bounty nowadays are not as good as in the past.

I feel the rules are normal. When we find ourselves fit, we can participate, the managers will be able to change the rules, but it has little effect on the bounty hunters who have joined before. Just it's not scam, all is not a problem.

Very correct, some hunters don't bother with rules they just quickly join the bounty and wait for payouts ,in every bounties rules should always comes first before anything else

Honestly im not a dumb like others do! I'm always read the "terms and condition" everytime im join any projects wethere its a bounty or ICO participation. But sometimes some of the rules written on it are "too harsh and infavor to me so i couldnt agree, Then its very simple "I never join that bounty no more further discussion" as long as all are written with transparency and honesty its not the problem. and if you feel that the terms and condition or rules are not good for you! Dont Joined in that campaign. No one can force you.

I agree, Bounty managers has the right to change rules, unless stated on the bounty rules in fact when the team decided to change rules especially for KYC and all that stuff, it might be okay because it is one of the requirements nowadays in order to find those spam accounts, which is proliferating nowadays.

It's still better if the original rules will not be change after the token or coin sale.
The rules or terms of the campaign is what makes bounty hunters applied, so they find the terms attractive and changing it like reducing the reward might not make them feel good, I mean, they give their best in promoting the project because they believe when it will become successful they will get the reward stated and it's a win-win between them and the project.

Bounty hunters can promote the project but they can also campaign against the project if they feel they are scam with the change of terms.

I think that this initial point is the first indicator that the campaign is likely can be not fair and only if you consider the project is very good then you should join it.

Right, if you have seen such rules like that then simply don't join because everything can be changed according to that rules that has been made by the bounty manager. So don't look for fairness if you have already read that they are implementing that kind of rule.

But if you guys insist to join, know the consequence and you are all taking the risk. Expect that at the end of the bounty there will be some change and you don't have to blame others with that mistake if you're aware of the change of rules.

Different people, different ways. Of course I read every gift rule before I joined. Because, carrying out work without reading regulations is a detrimental thing. In my opinion, gift managers have full rights in regulating all regulations.

In my opinion, the rules and rewards made by managers who manage bounty campaigns cannot hold accountable. because we as participants in the campaign are obliged to keep the rules made by the bounty manager.

This is very unfair to bounty hunters one bad example of changing rules is what happens to DESICO they ignore and refused to pay bounty hunters, this is an insult imagine after so many months or working to get investors to fund this project, they are now refusing payment to its bounty hunters.

Often bounty participants do not peruse the general rules, so participants make many questions. Changing rules, of course, become the right of the bounty manager and participants are obliged to comply with all existing rules (including regulation of changes). If indeed KYC is needed to comply with the conditions for getting results from the bounty, then what is wrong?

Changes on bounty threads can be done at anytime. Which means that there are certain rules that are not written at the start of the campaign, but which are later included. Then it makes the bounty manager to deny not writing it when you argue after the bounty.
Go through every rule at the start, save or archive whatever has been written. So that you can have much evidence against them.

I understand you are a junior member so I will assume you do not fully understand how things go. It is true that many bounty manager always stated these rules at the beginning of the bounty campaign but you have failed to understand is that many of them use this statement as an excuse for making ridiculous decisions. In most cases some hunters will ask them questions that are very crucial but they will not answer until things gone sour. I have witnessed here on BTT where bounty allocation was reduced to less than 10% of the initial bounty pool and they even make sure many hunters were not able to get their reward out of the wallet because they increase the minimum withdrawal. Anyone that participate in cointorox bounty will understand.

I always read all the rules of the campaign. They have the right to change the rules. Please note "rules" while participating in the campaign. On a beautiful day, when the campaign was about to end, a long time worked for bounty hunter. Bonus managers announce that halving the money for the bonus program, this is a scam.

It's all part of the rules, this is the risk and dangers of participating in an ICO bounty campaign, I have experienced that myself, some of my stakes coming from bounties did not yet arrive, some of them are locking their tokens after I received it, developers who have done this have no reputation at all for punishing bounty hunters.

YES! it is always stated in general rules that the bounty manager can change the allocation budget and rules of it.
This is due to what the ICO team want and told the bounty manager.
But sometimes that also hurt some participants, especially at KYC.
There are some people in the campaign who never joined a bounty with KYC this is due to their country's restriction.
everything is good but please tell at first if there will be KYC and can't change it even after the ICO.

All bounty are like that now. Because when you join the bounty, you must accept those terms.
So I think bounty and investment, we have to take risks, we invest our efforts instead of investing our money.

for bounty managers, there really is no connection with the problem because their job is to handle the bounty problem and they are paid for it, and for the kyc at this time it seems that it is natural because there are so many projects that ask you to be a bounty hunter. bounty that uses kyc or not.

This is true, the are lots of campaign that the rights of changing the rules anytime is on the bounty manager's hand, the problem is that most of the participants are only looking on the allocations of the campaign and they are skipping the other significant rules of the campaign. And also it is not the problem of the bounty manager if the team wants to make some changes because they are only doing it because of the team directive.

Always reading threads is very important to get the latest information if there are changes to the rules and can be seen in the telegram channel you don't miss the very important news

Indeed, that was right. Well, our own responsibility to research first before joining on bounty programs. You should know the bounty managers usually run a campaign if it is required KYC or not. Indeed, they are only managing bounty campaigns but not the owner intended for having changes in rules and regulations. You can possible avoid those project that centralized exchange for sure they required KYC when you are participating.

Now, in almost all ICO companies, there is a clause that the team can change any rules at its discretion. This should not be in agreements, because in fact it is no longer an agreement. Such a clause is illegal from a legal point of view. The ICO team takes advantage of the fact that ICO is not yet regulated. Any regulatory authority will force the removal of such an item as illegal.

It often happens that the project team decides to hold KYC already in the process of bounty, sometimes the manager decides to get rid of multi-accounts after the bounty.

The truth is that a lot of hunters don't bother to read those rules before participating in bounty campaigns of course if for any reasons best known to the bounty managers they can change their rule to sanitize and weed out cheaters it is becoming a common scenario where hunters used every possible means of automation, multiple accounts etc to abuse the system so as to earn more reward or tokens, if seen a situation where the manager had ended the campaign while many hunters will keep on posting which an abuse of the rule.

I would like to know your opinion on the set of accounts from one user.  Do they harm the project or still benefit, because in any case it disseminates information about the project?  In my opinion, multiple accounts affect only the earnings for a specific Bounty Hunter.

I don't join bounties with these stupid rules,its just another way of cheating, some bounty managers will end up shrinking the rewards just because they've made mention in the rules that they can adjust rewards,be wise

Since you are not advertising any bounty or at this moment are you managing any there is no way your rule can apply. Bounty managers make and implement there own rules and regulations which they attach to there advert so any one that can't deal with that is as good as wasting there time on the campaign

The fact is neither they would say or impose such rule the tendency of rules changes is still high and since you are just a bounty hunter you dont have any choice but to abide on whats being said since you cant do anything on what are the things they would say.So it doesnt really matter too much if you do just rely with these things thats why its much better if you
do always choose the best projects because if ever they do change up something as long they do pay n the end then thats what matter most.

here what is to blame is the campaign bounty participants ... because they do not read and understand the rules that have been made by the bounty manager and at any time can be changed by the manager if there is a change made by the bounty manager ... then we should read more bounty rules campaign so that we are not wrong in carrying out the rules and conditions that apply in the campaign bounty ... and do not blame the bounty manager who has changed the rules suddenly because of the rights and duties of the bounty manager ...

Recently, I have noticed that, in principle, few projects change the conditions of bounty.But nevertheless, when it comes to freezing payments then no one pays attention to whether the rules have changed or not.

I have also seen illegal other stuff as well in the ToS of some websites but that doesn't mean it will hold up in court. I have literally seen a company that written a ToS that stated when they send you a product that you buy and you decline it on the door then they will charge you the shipment, now normally that sounds reasonable but if they send you a broken thing or something you didn't order they still have that right to charge you for their own mistake too.

Hence, there are stuff that is courts job to settle. Since this is crytpo world and you can't sue a bounty manager for changing the rules we can't really make any changes but think about a business owner giving you a contract saying they can change your salary whenever they want, would you take that job?

a lot of bounty rules are simple like just likes and comments on a social media account, I don't have a problem with various bounty campaign rules as long as they don't require KYC.

Most bounty hunters do read all the terms and conditions for each of the different bounty campaigns but sometimes the rules are ammended intentionally to reduce token supply for bounty or different gimmicks so that they end up not paying the bounty hunters.

Usually this rule about manager's ability to change everything means that some minor changes can be done and this is normal. But when the manager for example decreases the token pool 10 times or says that all the previous reports are not counted because they don't meet the new requirements... That should be treated like scam. Obey the spirit, not the letter of the law.

I agree that the rules of the project can be changed in the course of the project, if it is written, but the passage of KYC should be reported by the Manager at the beginning of the project.

All the bounty campaign that I've participated in has that kind of rules, although you do not want to have it you have no choice but to comply since ICO is both risky for the developers and bounty managers they need flexibility in implementing, I just don't like it when they delay the payment or lock the token.

delaying distribution and locking tokens instead of several projects also provides rules at the beginning. indeed they usually don't keep it, and sometimes it takes longer to distribute. during the project it was still running well and waiting because of development problems I didn't think there were any problems. it became understandable for all participants.

I wouldn't join any future bounties that will lock the coins for a long period. Some projects just collect the money from the ICO then run off while the coins are locked.

you don't have to blame many of the hunters, they find it difficult to take time and read through a project. All they do is look at the rewards and then start doing the task only to come back in the end to start complaining

I have never complained about work as a bounty hunter. Since the bounty project requires KYC, I always look at the overall bounty project rules. When the manager bounties changes the rules, it's the right manager and I don't blame the bounty manager.

Yes it is true, accordingly if the bounty campaign has the rules which bounty manager has the right to change rules at any time or at the end of campaign, it is their rights and previledges and we can't do nothing about it since it is their rules, however regarding the kyc thingy, it should be clear before the bounty starts so that the participants wont be surprise doing a kyc thing in the long run.

Yeah, I joined the project because its value will increase later, not when distributed and sell them immediately. Perhaps many times those projects will die and I completely lose the money I earn, but maybe it will be a bounty for my life

you have strong speculation. to keep holding the assets that you get from the bounty even though it can make you get nothing. most tokens from the bounty result go down immediately, and it's hard to get back up. those who succeeded in riding were those who did the project correctly. and that was clearly not in a short time.

maybe at the time of the ICO was very difficult to find a good bounty but now IEO is the solution for bounty hunter nothing has been seen until now IEO scam bounty, so the point it's not difficult to find a good bounty at the moment

Yes they can really change the rules to their advantages they can delay it locked it ask for KYC so far I have not seen a rules where they state that they've changed the rules, and they are not going to rewards bounty hunters, any project that will do that will make the bounty campaign collapse, because some projects could follow that.

You are right but if we are talking about KYC this should be posted from the start not the end of the campaign, some people don't like KYC it ruins the main purpose of cryptocurrency which is anonymity. Yes, they have the right to change rules but I guess only those basic rules are acceptable, KYC is a major one. I get the idea of having KYC to eliminate bots and fraud, but hello bounty campaigns allocation is sometimes 1 or 2 % only a very little amount and I think it is a bad move from them it will create FUDs to the community.

There are many participants in bounty used on other smart contracts such as Stellar or EOS but they fill in the form as ETH wallet address  :D

Almost all bounty managers will always have this statement on their bounty thread and many other rules and regulations. That is why if we so mind with the rules and regulation, simply don't get in participation on the bounty. But if you agree with the statement, someday, when the rules or regulation sare changed, we may not be able to complain. This is the risks, but of course, all changes will need considerations.

I can bodily say that 90% of bounty projects have same rules that 'they can adjust at any time ' unless you find yourself a trustworthy bounty managers that don't go back on their words

Many managers state it clear that the rules are subject to change while some will not state it but in the long run the will come up with a rule that is rigid which must bounty hunters will not be able to meet. I remembered a bounty that stated from the beginning that there will be no KYC or its like; but later on, they came up with an exchange registration and KYC. Most of us did not get our because we failed the exchange KYC.

It is always been clearly stated in almost every bounty thread that the BM has the right to change rule at anytime but like you said, bounty hunters find it very hard to read rules, they just start doing the campaigns without reading the rules very well

Well said, that has always been the issue with bounty hunters, some ignore reading bounty rules before starting and that has really made most work in vain promoting certain projects. As a bounty hunter, the rules of a bounty campaign is very important than the stakes allocation, ignoring the rules can prevent you from getting the stakes allocated. Rules and regulation first plus the real work will get you through successfully and prevent you from blaming bounty managers.

I think we should learn to treat others just like you want to be treated. I wished those bounty managers who engage in such act, to assume themselves to be in such situation.
Some bounty hunters would have prepared their mind towards the already said rule. If now changed, they might not be able to meet up with the requirements, thereby loosing their rewards.

It is true that most bounty managers state explicitly that bounty rules might change in the course or after the bounty which is well understood. But I believe issues concerning kyc is an important information which should 've been disclosed from the outset. Besides bounty managers might have the known about it but deciced to hold the information till the end of the campaign.

I know how very annoying and frustrating it is to promote a project for months and having a bounty manager specifying bounty requires no KYC and at the end of the bounty you hear KYC before distribution. Honestly this is very bad on behalf of most bounty managers but they are not to be blamed because most times it is stated clearly that bounty rules and subject to change.

. Most times it's bounty and ICOs turn out that brings this change I encourage every hunter to always read the terms and conditions before joining any campaign. Even if the manager didn't outline such rules, the campaign can still be changed as deemed fit.

We don't complain about that anymore since we can't do anything than to follow the rules? I will ask you, what a bounty hunter suppose to do if BM changes the rules? Of course, you will follow even you don't want. Just like putting KYC at the end of campaign. But the thing is, they change rules in order to delay the release of payment. In addition, they just changing the pool because others want to deceive hunters. After all, its unfair payment for those people who work hard for the project to succeed.

yeah, it is truly written that "bounty rules are subjected to change", the truth still remains that it will be unfair on the path of a bounty hunter who initial  met the requirement, then suddenly you change the rules, that means all his times and effort is wasted. 

Bounty hunters has the habbot of reading all the terms and conditions for each of the different bounty campaigns but sometimes the rules are  intentionally to reduce token supply for bounty or different gimmicks so that they end up not paying the bounty hunters for the reason that they do not follow the certain rules.

for regulatory issues I have never experienced anything that is troublesome, because most of the rules that I often encounter are only kyc and usually there is no problem if I do the payment will be given 100%, but for the problem how many estimates can it be out of agreement because I know that BM only runs his job to manage the bounty

its very good I complain not about the bounty manager but about the pool of the bounty. There are many bounties that have done so, and you know that is not a rule that they can change

You are right but the clause of changing the rule anytime looks scamming, It is a way of manipulating the bounty in the favour of the team in most cases this clause is used to reduce bounty allocation and introduction of kyc.

I have the same opinion and believe that if any hunter is entering a bounty programme where is stated that the team can change the rules whenever they like, he should follow those rules, even a KYC and not complain about it.

for additional regulatory, in my opinion, it doesn't matter as long as the reward bounty is paid, but for you, if the conditions requested are difficult, such as a passport, I disagree and disagree, also regarding the restriction of bounty allocation if there are additional regulations that are not difficult.

We understand that rules and this should not be taken overboard by bounty managers, the rules when changed should be one that will be one that shows some lackluster, We understand that things could change but it should be well explained and make hunters understand why and not outright imposition, We are not beggers

Yes, I also think that the rules can be changed, but in order to change the rules, everything must be reasoned and not just as a fact

Yes, indeed most hunters do not see the rules of the bounty, they are always looking for large allocations and are not obedient to the rules, but many of the regulation managers do not match what the forum wrote, for example 1 person in an article but when viewed in a spreadsheet 1 person 5 articles received all when it was not according to the rules.

Today I wanted to do Crypto.com BG50 promotion and they suddenly changed the rules from buying crypto to staking crypto (500USD value) for 6 monhts.  ::)

Of course I do, but I complain not about the bounty manager but about the pool of the bounty. There are many bounties that have done so, and you know that is not a rule that they can change

Recently, it is no longer an accident, but rather the rule, when not only the basic rules for generosity change, but also the main pool for the bounty company.  And it is regrettable that these changes are voiced by the team only after the completion of the campaign of Bounty.

Most of the time they add that rule to the bounty page for their good. But any time they can edit the page when they needed. that's why we need to choose bounty managers wisely. In my opinion bounty campaigns running on trust.

Lol

Have you ever read the terms and conditions on things you have bought and the services you use? They say these things to protect themselves. Do you know what you are agreeing to when you install software?
Do your self a favour and go read a few. The stuff we "agree" to is stupid.

So I should not own a cellphone or various other things because of the "terms"

You also basically making an excuse for managers.

Many bounty hunters are found of this habit mainly because they refuse to read bounty rules and regulations and at the long round blame bounty managers  for adding new rules at the end of the bounty campaign. Bounty managers are not to be blamed for this because they do mostly state in their bounty rules that the bounty rules are subject to change and if in case the change comes, whats new to that?, nothing but new if you refuse to read bounty rules as a hunter.

I really agree with your opinion ... many of the bounty hunters are lazy to read the rules that have been made by the manager bounty ... but the bounty participants often blame the bounty manager when there are changes to the rules in the future before the project is completed ... even though we know that the bounty manager is not part of the project team ... and when the rule changes are made by the bounty manager then that is a request from the project team such as to complete the KYC at the end of the project ..

there is nothing wrong if we agree that gift managers are not good at managing projects, many scam projects they manage. However, fully we cannot blame them because all this happened on the basis of our own choosing, isn't that right? this is an important lesson for all of us to be more careful about the ico project

That's true though. It is always stated on the bounty thread rules and regulations that managers can change the rules at any time, so let's endeavor to read through the thread to avoid unnecessary complain after.

Reading carefully the rules will help you have a successful bounty campaign. Legit bounty managers often make these rules so the campaign would run smoothly and participants get a fair share of the stakes allotted for the campaign. Just be sure that the campaign you join is 100% legitimate.

Sometimes I wonder why bounty managers are so much blamed for this fault. Most are not the cause of these bounty managers at all but the project management board. Even though bounty managers make it clear the bounty rules and regulation are subject to change, it mostly happens from the project board members and reading bounty rules and regulations well as hunters can help solve the problem of blaming bounty managers.

Bounty hunters have their own share of the blame, however in some cases, there are instances where bounty rules are changed arbitrarily without proper communication with the bounty participants. Most bounty managers usually lie under the umbrella of the fact that they can change the bounty rules at anytime but they also need to be considerate.

sometimes allocation reduced by developers team, and if happen bounty manager could not do anything in their campaign.as bounty manager actually they were in dillema position if allocation reduced.for example for last vidy bounty campaign, participants received only small amount that soo far from original allocation that stated in bounty thread.and bounty manager didn't know about this.

Not the fact that many companies on the bounty follow these canons. Since the text can always be edited. I had a situation when a kyc was introduced at the end of the company, and I took a screenshot and sent it to the team. To which I was told that this is a necessary measure to combat bots. Earnings in the bounty is based only on trust.
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That's is truly correct mate rules is edited if the ICO project end, from the rules of the project  they put KYC isn't required. We all know changing the rules is possible to get scam because for me changing the rules or edit rules from the thread is untrusted  possible get scam.

if the rule say "THE BOUNTY MANAGER HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE RULES AT ANY TIME" i will leave it and try to find another project, but if manager is professional and the project i think so potential i will consider joining with take the risk

The problem that often occurs in bounties is KYC. Sometimes bounty hunters don't read the general rule that includes KYC requirements and when the bounty is over they have not done KYC and have not been paid. Rarely do I see bounty managers changing regulations arbitrarily because they will definitely maintain their reputation

it's like a rule that changes in the middle or at the end of a bounty and often happens, I don't think too much about it. sometimes at the end of the bounty requires the kyc, sometimes the duration of the ico is extended, sometimes the bounty suddenly stops. as long as I follow the bounty, I experience a lot of things. and what still makes me ask is, the exact time for distribution and launching into a market exchange that the bounty manager never said, just said "soon".

Wise attitude. Regulations are the authority of the bounty manager and the development team. As participants, we can only obey that, as long as the changes are reasonable and with the right reasons. As a bounty hunter, we must also understand this as a risk.

Anything can really happen but if they are changing the rules to make it appear that bounty hunters will have a hard time claiming their stakes that's a different story if they are delaying the distribution or locking the thread for an unspecified time, then it's like scamming bounty hunters they can change the rules but not about bounty distribution.

It is obvious people don't read the bounty rules and regulations. But one thing I don't understand is the reason why bounty hunters don't want KYC. Is it because they are fraudster posing as many people to accumulate tokens with less or no efforts?

I think it is very important to know the bounty rules first before engaging to enter on their bounty project. And also the bounty manager has the right to change rules during or at the end of campaign as they are authorized and if its for the better of the project.

They can't if that is not stated in the bounty rules at the start, that would be an injustice to the bounty hunters, usually the change is to decrease the reward or require some KYC which was not stated at the beginning. Changing bounty rules might also affect the reputation of the project if bounty hunters are not happy.

It is right. There are rules in the first project. We should follow the service. And the Bounty Manager should not change those rules. After finishing the rules, Hanter has lost many lives after changing the rules.

did you read what you have qouted ? the guy above you already said that there are rules which claims that they will change thier rules at anytime without any notice to the bounty hunters  . you can proceed if you agreed on that terms and its not right to complain if ever they will change the rules   you can only complain on a manager or on a bounty that does not have that rules but im not sure if there are still campaigns that dont inlclude that rules  ,   .

Let's not forget that there are few bounties too that implemented KYC at the beginning of the bounty and later on they removed KYC before bounty ends,i think what's most important is reading bounty rules very well

I think checking rules is definitely done, but for some bounty hunters just skim. whereas many cases that occur are rules changes made by the bounty manager. yes if there is a notification through the bounty group it is not a problem. but if there is no notification and only changes the rules after the campaign is over I think it's unsportsmanlike.

Its very pathetic and annoying. I experienced such whereby we were all given a small token after all our endeavors and hard work. The funniest of it all is that their kyc was really hard to pass. So many peoples kyc was rejected and they didn't redeem their token at the end. That's the worst thing that can ever happened to a bounty hunter

of course there is no reason to hate the manager. I think it's all a request from the developer, not from the bounty manager. My KYC we are not troublesome. it's still reasonable and for bounties sometimes it's also made easy not too difficult like an investor,

Sometimes there is no writing like that but after the bounty runs they add the word "BOUNTY MANAGER HAS THE RIGHT TO CHANGE RULES AT ANY TIME"
all words in the bounty thread can be changed at any time and the bounty manager is free to add or subtract words not just rules

That quitely happen on some bounties like adding KYC or have to registered in some website, positively may be dev or bounty manager wants to avoid scammer, and for some reason to pending bounty payment

that is why we must always see their thread so that no news is left behind.
indeed this often happens, but i have never complained about it because i always pay attention and find out about the changes they have made and the development of their project.

i don't want to, just because a small mistake makes me lose my wages.

I read the rules every time I want to join a bounty. And I've also seen a bounty manager tell every participant who wants to join to read carefully the rules during the campaign. I think the manager has full rights in the campaign.

That's the basic knowledge and habits that must be owned by the bounty hunter. So that no rules are left behind. Often in group telegram, general and recurring questions related to rules appear, even though they are all clearly written in the thread. There were also complaints that they did not get stakes, even though he did not comply with the rules correctly.
Receiving gracefully any changes in rules must also be applied because it is the authority of the bounty manager and developer.

This is problem. They reserve the right to change the conditions. But you understand that by doing so they can lower the price to introduce KYC and do whatever they want. Working conditions must be accurate.

For me, there is no problem if there are changes to the rules on the bounty. The important thing is that they give notice to bounty participants so they know it, such as PM or give a Massage PIN to the telegram group

There is a bounty that has been previously notified of the distribution as you said (distribution 1 month after completion of the bounty). If from the start like that, it really can't be replaced again or delay the distribution. Unless they speed up distribution, it doesn't matter and I think it's good.

Again and again this problem has already discussed so many times and then a lot of people have told those hunters to read the whole or reules carefully if the manager and team have the right to change the rules and add more rules. They have the right to ask KYC.

I like stable managers who don't change the rules. There are such. I try to work on their projects. But I know what to expect. And ostolnye can be fraudsters. Let's say to boil our passport details.

Always pay attention to what was expressed by the bounty rules and regulations. Some participants could lose their could lose their opportunity to be compensated after the project and successfully accomplish their objectives. If we fail to comply a certain requirements, that means you weren't able to meet their desires.

Many bounties in their bounty thread that they have to write to change their rules any time and you have to by abiding this rules, but many bounties not mention this but they suddenly change the rules which are not good Because if we do not follow the changed rules, all our hard work gets useless.

Actually it's not entirely wrong with the bounty hunter, they can actually read the rules, but they don't like such rules. Such rules in my opinion are very detrimental to bounty hunters, and I consider deceiving bounty hunters. Maybe if you change the rule from 10post / week to 15post / week, it's legitimate. But most bounty managers change sensitive rules such as kyc at the end of a campaign, cut allocations, etc. Now this is very detrimental to bounty hunters, bounty hunters have worked for months, then they change the rules as if so little is paid.

When I take part in bounty campaigns, I just mean the likelihood that the bounty manager will change the rules and I am always ready to receive the minimum reward. Unfortunately the rules are not in favor of bounty hunters, but I am ready to dance on camera with an identity card if I get paid for it.

I think you have a good point. We need to learn to stop blaiming others because it is not solely their fault. We do have our part when joining bounties. We need to understand that we have the responsibility to read the rules and regulation when we join any bounties or any campaign so everything will be clear before we start a certain project.

when they are not wrong they are indeed not worthy of blame. but if the mistake is indeed on them or whoever it is, then they must be blamed.
learned in the case of the ubiatar project, the manager of the team itself and they cut the allocation very sadly after the campaign was over. even though they have the right to change that, but it makes and proves to us. that developers who do not apply fairly to their bounty participants deserve to be blamed.

The right thing to do is always do your own research in every specific things that you'll going to participate, there's no need blaming anyone if you are fully aware in what you are doing and you think it's the right thing for you, blaming games will not help you to earned it will only lead you to more stress and not to realize the right thing to do and to move forward and forget about things which keeping you to point fingers to anyone.

analisys also needed when we choosing bounty campaign.we should not work in every bounty campaign , if we did it it has high possibility most of them ony take our energy and time.meanwhile we got nothing.

Yea you are correct, some of them go as far as saying that they can decide to change allocation later and whenever I see this in a bounty, I do not like participating in it unless it's a bounty manager I like working with.

To my regret, the phrase TS speaks about gives the bounty manager or members of the development team the right to change any rule in the bounty campaign at their discretion. The only thing left to bounty hunters is to write angry messages in ANN of the project. And even that will do it only units.

Your words are words of fact, it is good to always read through any bounty, to know the  do's and Don't 's. Make sure to follow instruction, by so doing, you will be on a clear standing.

yes right, the manager will change the rules in the middle of the campaign or at the end of the campaign. and the rules usually harm the bounty hunter.
I don't like the change. looks unprofessional.

Usually we have followed the instructions that were put in place and everything is clear. But usually they change at the end of the campaign or even close to distribution as mandatory bounty hunters do KYC. that's our anxiety that often happens.

Rules are rules and it is often seen in telegram pages where bounty hunters complain a lot. Sometimes it is clear that the bounty participant lacks information all because the participant failed to read the stated rules. Bounty hunters must endeavor to read the general rules of the bounty program in order to ascertain whether they fit that program or not in order not to waste time on a particular project for months.

Yeah! It is a very undeserving rules to be included in the bounty campaign which is given some bad project owners and bm to exploit hunters as they please, because of this very cunning rules many hunters have suffered in campaigns and ended up not getting the reward they worked for, rules can be changed anytime and hunters can't do shit about it.

With this rules bm/project owners can even decided not to pay hunters, afterall they reserve the right to change rules of campaign at anytime :-\

if there is point mentioned in bounty thread like that, we have to anticipate some rules that will changes in the middle or end of bounty.but usually they just change about KYC for bounty distribution.don't forget to read rules carefully about wallet changes.some bounty hunter complain it when they want to changes wallet address.

Some bounty projects already made mention of adjusting rules at anytime if possible, if you have that at the back of your mind already you shouldn't be surprised when they change the rules

The rule is number one, learn and read the rules one by one if indeed the gift manager wants to change the rules must be notified in the project thread, remember managers have the right to change the project thread to support the progress of the project. so build good communication to facilitate collaboration between bounty hunters and managers.

Agree, the manager does have the right to change the rules of the gifts he holds, but what many gift participants like is that managers who update information are always fast and on time, because that is also a good performance for a manager and can encourage participants participating in the gift program held by the manager.

Not all regulations are carried out by a Bounty Manager, for example regarding KYC regulations. this is indeed a regulation requested by the project owner. if this regulation changes when the campaign is over, a Bounty Manager will be forced to change the rules at that time.
So,, it is expected for all campaign participants to always read and follow the news about the campaign that was followed.

Sometimes there are changes due to the request of the developer team, but usually the bounty manager always requests KYC at the start of the campaign. This is intended so that when there is a change, bounty hunters can prepare documents. I think the Bounty manager has the right to change the rules and if we don't cheat, I think we will be ready for KYC

Let us be honest here. Some bounty hunters don't really read the rules and regulations of every bounty. What they read is the mechanics (sometimes not) and the bounty percentage/stakes. Then they are the one who always complain when some of their stakes were not counted even of there are remarks on the spreadsheet that warns them from doing so. I don't know if they don't understand english or they are not capable to really understand the rules and regulation. Bounty rules were changed when some incidents tend to happen that may affect the whole bounty or the project team/developers requested it.

Managers only execute orders, the team is responsible for changing the rules. The team must make a standard rule so that there is no change until the campaign ends.

From my personal observations, I realised that most bounty hunters do not really have time to read the rules and regulations for a particular bounty. They are just considered about the amount of coins or the value of the bounty.  Such people are always the ones to complain throughout the duration of the bounty campaign.

Yes, have to agree with that but bounty manager also will do something that could be fair to both parties. It is the call for bounty manager to do so what would be that best and they have the rights to declines any changes that project owners suggested if it won't give a fair play. But somehow, some BM didn't realize it early until such thing that is getting worse when all participants send complaints.

Reading and understanding the rules before deciding to join a campaign project is crucial. So we weren't surprised when the Bounty manager made the rules change. I often experience such a project and I think it's not a problem. And of course KYC is a good decision and this is to prevent cheating action.

yes I have experienced it very often, one of which is very much happening to me is, at the beginning of the rule when the bounty campaign was carried out, bounty hunters did not need to do KYC, but at the end of the bounty, before coin distribution was done, the bounty manager made a notification that all bounty hunters must do KYC, so there are very many bounty hunters who do not do KYC and do not get the coins they deserve

Judging from your post you have not yet experienced the many things that these bounty managers and developers are doing just to keep delaying payment to their bounty hunters or worse do not pay at all, check DESICO's example, this project reached their soft cap, because of the help of bounty hunters, after that they shift to STO and announced that they are not going to pay their bounty hunters because they changed their rules, all they can give their bounty hunters is thank you.

But at least dont making a changing of the rule right after the program finished, like rewards allocation for example, from the start it say 500k$, but when it succesfull finished the rewards was cut by the team, like only 20-30% from the beginning, is it fair you think?

It is always convenient to blame the bounty hunters, who do all the hard work to promote the project and even after that end up with nothing. In the end, they wait for many months (or even years) to get the tokens in their wallet, while the promoters enjoy their holidays in Maldives and Seychelles after dumping their stash. I don't know what the OP really want. Either he is trying to impress some of these promoters, or he himself is looking to promote a project.

Ideally, it is not very ethical to change the rules once the bounty is almost completed. But for their advantage, there are too many desperate bounty hunters around (especially from the third world nations) who are willing to take the risk. And once they cheat the bounty hunters of their reward, after making them wait for 6-7 months, they can always create a new account here and repeat the modus operandi. 

In my opinion, such bounty manager have shows his act of incompetence and i wont join any bounty he posted in the near future if I were because every business require honesty since he have done such thing now he can even do worse in the future.

As a hunter, We all understand that rules and this should not be taken overboard by bounty managers, the rules when changed should be one that will be one that shows some lack, We understand that things could change but it should be explained to the hunters nicely and so the hunters will understand why it is being changed.

Its important to read the bounty rules before participating in that bounty. They might have some rules that will prevent you from joining or probably not following them will lead to loss of funds at the end of the period.

Actually, reading the rules and following it is just a simple task to do, if we don't like the rules then we have to leave and not to participate in the campaign. In some case that rules can be subjective and can be changed in accordance with the project owners and such time, we have the right to complain against them if we don't like it. It also important that BM would have to take care of their participants and not just leaving in vain when there are problems arise.

That’s normal before you join, and its also normal if the manager changes the rules of the bounty, so its advisable to read every week the rules and regulations or the thread to know the changes and of course to monitor you details on the spreadsheet because there are so many scammer on one project.

Some rules about KYC seem to have been told at the beginning of the campaign. And if the campaign expires and the participant must pass through KYC. I guess it's not a problem because this is already a policy and sometimes not a policy made by the manager. About this rule has been discussed more and better we can respond positively.

Of all the bounty rules so far, the one i really disagree with is the rule that says "bounty manager can change the rule of the bounty at anytime"
This rule basically means the bounty manager can for any reason he deem fit change rules in a way that may not suit bounty hunters or even change the budget. That is why my approach is to go with managers that have been honest and fair in their management of their bounties.

Sometimes I do blame bounty hunters on this very topic because they most bounty hunters are lazy and just don't want to read and understand. Most skip reading bounty campaign rules and end up blaming bounty managers for addition or implementation of new rules once bounty has ended, if hunters are to read and understand that the meaning of "rules are subject to change" , they would have no issue if new rules are been implemented.

In my opinion we should have a regulation to protect bounty hunter. Bounty managers must have a clear rule from the beginning and must not change it. In fact there were many greedy bounty managers, after the bounty ended and succeeded, they made enough excuses to cut down on the usual hunter. bounty hunter is often overlooked and considered to be dumper, but they never consider bounty hunter's performance and advertising effectiveness.

The problem most of often in this situation was the community who joined in the project campaign, they never read first the rules and policy on which the project has, so in the end they complaint after the token sales. So, my advise is that always take a screenshot if you see some project about their rules so in the end you have proof of evidence to complaint. Because all rules was lies on the hand of the bounty manager in the first place.

Of course if all gift providers use their degrees to their liking, all the rules will apply to them as well. here the gift seekers only want a rule that is easy to follow them and of course not troubles them. insofar as the rules are made sure will be followed by bounty hunter.

If the bounty managers are true to their position regarding to this concern, they should removed any additional power to change the rules of the campaign, it should be clearly stated that there's no additional rules aside from what they clearly placed when the team announce the bounty
information, it will be much balance if this conditions are clear so bounty hunters can proceed without any worries.

KYC procedure can be carried out for various reasons and not just wanted the organizers of the project. Perhaps the KYC is necessary to fulfill the requirements of the law. But all this should be stipulated at the very beginning of the campaign of course.

When choosing a Bounty project, it is important to carefully study the ICO itself. Working on the first site that promises maximum pay is at least not wise.

Sometimes, people work for 1-2 months but do not receive the promised money. The rules of Bounties must be read as breaking them, you risk not to get an award. If a Bounty participant violated the rules that the creator of ICO found, he may not get anything.

Bounty hunters in general are always in a rush to go and grab any project even without researching it, let along look at bounty rules and regulations. Some of them do not read whitepaper and other documents. As a result, they get troubles of some kinds. But some crypto projects impose unnecessarily rules afterward.

This is the problem for some bounty hunters, they dont fully read the rules before participating so if any changes has been made later on they will start complaining because they think its unfair.

Well before we join we must understand their rules and expect some changes. Usually what I encounter is they are implementing kyc, extension of the bounty or delaying the distribution. Its fine as long as they are true to what they promise to the bounty hunters.

Most hunters are not aware if this.. probably they didnt read the rule they just saw the funds to be distributed and decided to jump right in ...

Not hard to read but their ignorance to that reserved rights is what making rules being misinterpreted. Some bounty participants are insisting to the rules, trying to get rid of that which most likely doesn't get tolerated by the bounty managers. Kudos to those bounty mamagers who are not getting tired of checking everyone's entries and complains.

Many bounty hunters rush into the first bounty campaigns just to have a chance to earn something. I think that there is no need to hurry, take the time to search for a good bounty campaign where you will not be deceived.
I'd rather be without a signature for a long time than work and then I will not get my money.

I think some bounty managers don't good experience in how to deal with alt and multi acccount farm bounty reward. This leading very easy rule at the start then become strict at later.

This is ridiculous hope. How can you guarantee that all of them as campaign participants will carry out their jobs with responsibility?
And if you're a project party, don't you think your money will run out in vain for cheating participants?

Most Bounty projects do not provide information about KYC. And KYC was announced when the Bounty project was over. Indeed, many people are disappointed by this decision. However, this has been the right for managers to create policies. Even policies are sometimes not from managers, but company policies.

Bounty hunters are not wrong to protest when the rules are changed when it ends if the bounty manager does not make a record of the rules can change in the bounty thread, but if the bounty manager makes note the wrong thing is the bounty hunter. In every bounty thread, there must always be complete rules so that there is no commotion. A bounty manager mistake if they don't put complete rules in the bounty thread at the beginning of the week

You know I use to fall into category of people that don't read rules but after a bitter experience. I read from A-Z before I embark on any project as I have noticed that it is very very necessary and the first criteria to joining a bounty

That is true since most project have that statement but I think that has  to be rules that affect all members some with those statement also state that there will be no KYC that probably made many start on for you to rescind your decision just like that.

It isn’t fair that bounty hunters are subjected to unfair conditions in bounty; but the rules are there and edited at will

Which is why we need to ensure we join the best bounty well managed by the right bounty team

I understand that frustration and anger that boils within bounty hunters upon change of bounty campaign rules at the end a successful bounty campaign. Yeah I mean it hurts but one thing that brings in this frustration and anger is lack of bounty hunters reading bounty rules before promoting it and I think its high time hunters start reading any campaign rules before participating.

Sadly that is true, most of the bounties that I hold are greatly reduced in value, almost no longer valid. But there are still a few projects that grow well and bring in more money

I agree with your opinion that we cannot blame bounty managers in managing a campaign project ... because they have made campaign rules before the campaign starts ... but many campaign bounty participants are lazy to read the rules that have been made ... and this is an absolute mistake campaign bounty participants if they violate the rules made by the bounty manager ...

I never blame the bounty manager if at any time change the bounty rules ... because in my opinion it is a task carried out by the bounty manager ... and we as participants must follow all the bounty rules that have been set at the beginning and the changes at the end ... because of making changes and repairs are the right and duty of the bounty manager to do it whenever needed.

I am a community manager of ICO/IEO projects..

I would like to be a bounty manager but don't know how will I manage it?

Yes, even though sometimes we are upset with changes that occur suddenly but we cannot do anything about any changes even a protest we cannot do. Bounty participants can only follow the rules set by a bounty manager.

I know that the bounty manager and the team can change the rules of the bounty.
But with all the respect, bounty hunters are just asking if there will be KYC, kindly put it at start.
There are some bounties in other country which doing KYC is illegal.

This is completely right. Bounty hunters don’t read the rules properly at first then in the end complaint about changing of rules. This line is mentioned in many campaigns and rings bells for me. Hunters often miss these kinds of info and just jump into the campaign. I would suggest doing bounty hunting only after seeing whether the manager is trustable and reliable or not. If he is reliable and well known, then it is unlikely that he do any such thing because his reputation is on the line.

All people (bounty participants) who participated in the Bounty of course read the rules in advance, but the big fact that happened at this time was the Bounty Manager Team changed the rules at the end of the Bounty period.  One of them is applied KYC or reduction of Allocation.

We have seen many companies and bounty manager changed rules once after bounty completion. We have seen this, many times that's why we should always keep track everything before joining into any bounty. Once the KYC is verified they will change % of bounty specified to the bounty hunters.