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Title: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FlyingDrozd on July 10, 2019, 07:38:10 AM Hey guys. I'm a talkative person and participate in a lot of chats and forums. And I noticed that this forum is the most popular one. Can you explain to me how it happened and why? What's their success story?
Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: hilariousandco on July 10, 2019, 07:38:42 AM Aliens.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2905330.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4322078.0 Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FlyingDrozd on July 10, 2019, 07:39:56 AM Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Vod on July 10, 2019, 07:40:44 AM Fundamentally, I believe it's because the admin (Theymos) is very liberal with the rights he gives to the members.
Basically, most anything goes. He allows members to police themselves and that gives pride and purpose. Or... Aliens. ;) Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FlyingDrozd on July 10, 2019, 07:47:31 AM https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2905330.0 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4322078.0 Wow these links are super useful thank you Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FlyingDrozd on July 10, 2019, 07:49:01 AM Fundamentally, I believe it's because the admin (Theymos) is very liberal with the rights he gives to the members. Basically, most anything goes. He allows members to police themselves and that gives pride and purpose. Makes sense, but recently it has changed. I saw that now even giveaways are banned here. Doesn't sound very liberal... Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Vod on July 10, 2019, 07:51:32 AM Makes sense, but recently it has changed. I saw that now even giveaways are banned here. Doesn't sound very liberal... Spam is not allowed on most useful forums. Giveaways are nothing but a lame mass advertising attempt. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: PrimeNumber7 on July 10, 2019, 07:52:18 AM It was the first forum to discuss bitcoin that still exists today, and it was used by satoshi.
Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: LoyceV on July 10, 2019, 07:58:46 AM It was the first forum to discuss bitcoin that still exists today, and it was used by satoshi. Even better: it was created by Satoshi!Cøbra explains it much better than I ever could: A lot of prominent members in the Bitcoin community started out on bitcointalk.org, then migrated to Reddit, and subsequently migrated from Reddit to Twitter. Many of these became "thought leaders" on Twitter, and no longer are active on Reddit or bitcointalk.org. I don't think it's because of the format or feel of the forum, I think it's more of an ego thing. The thing with Twitter is that if you have a minimum of a few thousand followers, you can write a good tweet and watch the likes and retweets pour in. It does give some level of satisfaction, something that can't quite be replicated on a forum. Eventually over time you find that people start trying very hard to be liked, so rather than stopping to form an opinion, they end up trying to fit into the group think. You see it in Bitcoin Twitter especially when everyone has the Lightning emoji in their name, the whole "UASF" in the bio/hats thing, absolutely toxic hatred of altcoins, and other examples of people trying desperately to fit into what everyone else in the community is doing. Everyone is always organizing to rally against something, and that's where the problem with these platforms shows itself, it enforces conformity. Conformists are easy to control and manipulate. See the thing with these platforms though is that they intentionally trick you to seem bigger than they actually are. How many people on /r/Bitcoin post and contribute each day? It genuinely isn't that many, and on quiet days you can see a handful of very active discussions, and even those don't have very many unique new people. But the way the content is structured masks that. This forum has an insane amount of discussion taking place each day, across many different aspects of Bitcoin and periphery topics (economics, politics, services, etc). If you want price memes and surface level discussion, Reddit and Twitter are great, but this place has more variety and people are generally open minded, if you know which topics to post in. Twitter is also quite a small sample of Bitcoin users, for example Andreas' account, one of the most vocal and well respected Bitcoiners on social media only grew by ~60k followers in the past year, nothing compared to the type of numbers this forum achieves with new users. There will be many forums and many places to discuss Bitcoin, many social media sites and many Facebook groups. But how many of those will have been something Satoshi created? A hundred years from now, nobody will give a shit about Twitter, Facebook or Reddit. But there's a good chance they will give a shit about Bitcoin (and one can hope they will be using it). You can be sure this forum will be in the history books. Little kids will look over archives of our threads as they dream of one day owning 1 BTC. Threads like "we are the new wealthy elite" will be discussed in classrooms. Homework assignments will ask kids to go and research how the HODL meme originated. If Bitcoin does take over the world, you can tell your grandkids you were in the place where it all began. We have something that can't be replicated elsewhere: history. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FlyingDrozd on July 10, 2019, 07:58:59 AM Makes sense, but recently it has changed. I saw that now even giveaways are banned here. Doesn't sound very liberal... Spam is not allowed on most useful forums. Giveaways are nothing but a lame mass advertising attempt. As a user, I don't mind free money :) even if it is 10$ or if I have to do something small to get them Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FlyingDrozd on July 10, 2019, 08:00:19 AM It was the first forum to discuss bitcoin that still exists today, and it was used by satoshi. Even better: it was created by Satoshi!No way :o that's sick Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: eternalgloom on July 10, 2019, 08:02:30 AM The fact that it was the first ever Bitcoin forum around and the fact it's so libertarian (pretty much anything goes, except for highly illegal stuff).
Oh yeah and obviously aliens, shapeshifting reptilians to be precise. David Icke & Alew Jones wish they could get to the bottom of it, but Theymos has always been one step ahead of them. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: khaled0111 on July 10, 2019, 10:09:12 AM ... The main problem with forums is that great posts like the one you quoted can go unnoticed and get buried under hundreds of shitposts. OP (Cøbra in this case), simply, can't do anything about it. Cøbra explains it much better than I ever could: ... I am also confident that after many years from now, whenever you talk about Bitcoin, you will have to talk about bitcointalk :) Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Oyarebu on July 10, 2019, 10:35:19 AM Basically in my opinion, I would say the popularity of Bitcointalk.org was as a result of the first hand information an individual can gather from the forum. There are heroic knowledgeable individuals on the forum and staying on the forum for around a year or more will make such individual are bunch of cryptocurrency teams and not only that, been a good adviser to investors of cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: LoyceV on July 10, 2019, 11:15:05 AM The main problem with forums is that great posts like the one you quoted can go unnoticed and get buried under hundreds of shitposts. OP (Cøbra in this case), simply, can't do anything about it. That's why I quoted it :)There's also Top-merited recent replies (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topreplies) and Top-merited replies, all-time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=toprepliesat), but those lists are still heavily polluted with posts that don't deserve the ~50 Merit they received (AKA Merit abuse). Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Welsh on July 10, 2019, 11:29:18 AM Various different reasons, besides the ones already mentioned its surely partly down to the community, and a few individuals within it. Look at TMAN's replies for example I'm sure that gives a few users a good laugh. I personally don't like the system that reddit uses with upvotes, and I hate the Twitter interface, so its always made sense to use the forum rather than any of the alternatives.
Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: blink on July 10, 2019, 12:20:09 PM It is because of the guidance of our Dear Leader Theymos ;D
Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: AdolfinWolf on July 10, 2019, 12:34:56 PM Probably because it was the first of it's kind, and due to all the "OG's" using it.
I also think that, despite all the hate signature campaigns get, they played a major role in attracting both companies and other users to bitcointalk. Whether that kind of popularity is a good or a bad thing -- you tell me, but it sure did increase BTalk's traffic stats & posts. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=bitcointalk You can see that a lot of traffic comes from people wondering about bounties. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Lucius on July 10, 2019, 12:40:08 PM In addition to the above mentioned that this forum is created by Satoshi Nakamoto, I can only say that there is no better place to be if you are interested in cryptocurrency. During the years I was active member on maybe 4-5 forums related to crypto, but today some of them are closed, others have very few active users.
Bitcointalk.org is also popular because of signature campaigns, many new users come here and their first question is how to earn from this forum. Although this is a wrong approach, we can conclude that new users come partly because of possible earnings. This forum is also popular place for advertisers, they can buy ad-slots or create signature, Twitter, FB campaign, and given the large number of users they have great visibility for their projects. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: TheBeardedBaby on July 10, 2019, 12:59:09 PM I'm sorry to say it but probably 85-90% of the traffic is because of greed.
All those signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops some sort of "free money", attract more and more people who have come here to "work hard" and make as more as possible. Then comes the bots, alts and scammers, together with the FOMO-ed newbies trying to invest now and be rich in a year, because someone told them so but got fooled very easy and then shouting around that bitcoin is only for criminals, it's scam, ponzi, bubble etc... At the end we are all here only for the technology : https://cryptocoinsmarket.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Bitcoin-Meme-In-it-for-the-Technology-283x300.jpg Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: DdmrDdmr on July 10, 2019, 01:17:37 PM And yet, besides its ties to Bitcoin origins, the campaigns, it’s members, the historical content, and so forth, there are local regions where Bitcointalk possibly surpassed in popularity by other more local forums.
For example, the Spanish local forum "competes" with forobits.com – a Spanish based forum that has a poor yet simple design, lacks campaigns, but generates more content in Spanish that our local forum on Bitcointalk. We’re really talking different demographic dimensions here, since the Spanish section on Bitcointalk is participated by people both in Spain and LATAM, whilst Forobits is mainly participated only by Spaniards. Bitcointalk could be thrashing Forobits, but for some reason it lags behind a bit in interest (at least that’s what it looks like if we take a look at the number of posts created on both forums (local Spanish), and the comparative results on Google Trends – taking the latter with a bit of scepticism). https://i.imgur.com/H2LJvsc.png The image above is in relation to the last two years, in order to narrow down the peak 100 reference. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: LoyceV on July 10, 2019, 01:55:02 PM I'm sorry to say it but probably 85-90% of the traffic is because of greed. Although I can (proudly) say I didn't have any paid signature until I was at least Full Member, but that's mainly because I didn't bother to check how it works back then, and I didn't know it can actually pay a decent amount.All those signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops some sort of "free money", attract more and more people who have come here to "work hard" and make as more as possible. There's a good side to it though: signature campaigns mean people are actually willing to do things for Bitcoin, which adds to it's acceptance. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 10, 2019, 02:03:47 PM Basically, most anything goes. He allows members to police themselves and that gives pride and purpose That was one of the most important things that attracted me to this forum--I'd lurked around here way before I ever joined, and I noticed that members were allowed to say pretty much whatever they wanted to say. Other forums I'd been a part of were almost prudish in terms of what they allowed, and that's a turnoff.But as to OP's question about why bitcointalk is so popular: it's the signature campaigns and bounties. There are a lot of money-making opportunities here, which many people take full advantage of. The secondary reason is the popularity of bitcoin itself, IMO. When bitcoin starts heating up, it seems like there are newbies flooding in with new topics about the price. That's not necessarily a bad thing, though some of the posts are complete garbage. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: eternalgloom on July 10, 2019, 03:03:03 PM I'm sorry to say it but probably 85-90% of the traffic is because of greed. Although I can (proudly) say I didn't have any paid signature until I was at least Full Member, but that's mainly because I didn't bother to check how it works back then, and I didn't know it can actually pay a decent amount.All those signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops some sort of "free money", attract more and more people who have come here to "work hard" and make as more as possible. There's a good side to it though: signature campaigns mean people are actually willing to do things for Bitcoin, which adds to it's acceptance. Not to be rude or anything, but joining a campaign when you have a rank lower than Full Member wasn't really worth it, right? Well, maybe back then it was. I think I joined my first campaign when I was Sr. Member. I do agree that those campaigns have a good side, but it's also good to think about whether it's worth the spam. Well, it definitely keeps the place alive, that's for sure. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: LoyceV on July 10, 2019, 03:11:06 PM Not to be rude or anything, but joining a campaign when you have a rank lower than Full Member wasn't really worth it, right? Probably, but my main reason to join was because I liked the site at the time. I guess that's different for most users.Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Joel_Jantsen on July 10, 2019, 03:11:52 PM Hey guys. I'm a talkative person and participate in a lot of chats and forums. And I noticed that this forum is the most popular one. Can you explain to me how it happened and why? What's their success story? There is no one such success story. I could say it was founded by the Bitcoin creators and used for all technical discussions at one point of time but that's merely the reason behind its popularity."Do you know a forum you get money to write simple comments?" - This is the main reason for its popularity I guess. That brings shit loads of traffic to the website which attracts service providers like gambling sites, freelancers and etc. Also, one place spot for shit-coins and shit-coin bounty campaigns. Gone are the days where there were actually very intelligent members active on the forum like DannyH, TracePilot, etc. Recently, Lauda, Lutpin, and others have stopped participating in the discussions which make this place less friendly for people like me who have been here for a few years. I remember I was literally coached on a number of things via private messages by those members. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Coyster on July 10, 2019, 03:18:38 PM I think at the initial stage, the forum was popular because it provided an avenue for enthusiasts to discuss really technical issues about the bitcoin, as well as giving trading strategies and techniques to support others, it was indeed a forum then and more so why it was popular then.
But really at this stage now, I think it's popular because it has an option to earn, if you remove that option, I think the forum would lose popularity as well as a lot of plastic members. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Artemis3 on July 10, 2019, 03:24:31 PM Hey guys. I'm a talkative person and participate in a lot of chats and forums. And I noticed that this forum is the most popular one. Can you explain to me how it happened and why? What's their success story? The creator of Bitcoin made it... Satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3) is the founder of Bitcointalk. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: AB de Royse777 on July 10, 2019, 03:27:47 PM I'm sorry to say it but probably 85-90% of the traffic is because of greed. All those signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops some sort of "free money", attract more and more people who have come here to "work hard" and make as more as possible. Spot on, and the conversation ends here :-) Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Welsh on July 10, 2019, 03:32:13 PM There's a good side to it though: signature campaigns mean people are actually willing to do things for Bitcoin, which adds to it's acceptance. It has become its own little thing within the economy of the forum, and isn't necessarily a bad thing with good users overseeing the campaign. It only ever really becomes a problem when poorly managed campaigns are allowed to advertise on the forum. Especially, the altcoin related ones as there is so many of them. At least the ones paying in Bitcoin are somewhat managed or at least appear to be. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: royalfestus on July 10, 2019, 08:59:06 PM Its over 9 years with the forum and has served many of these great crypto enthusiasts such as Tony vay, Vitalik etc. It has been a sole mover of the space and help the advent of Altcoins until lately that telegram, twitter,reddit etc are engaged. Most ICOs usually start their announcement thread here, followed by campaign.
Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Thirdspace on July 10, 2019, 10:59:13 PM All those signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops some sort of "free money", attract more and more people who have come here to "work hard" and make as more as possible. this! this is the main reason for newcomers to join forum in the last few years (since ~2016 I think)in the very early time, people see the big opportunity for free money from claiming airdrops then later on doing sig camps and bounties are more lucrative than working in certain countries they leave their day jobs (or simple was unemployed) and concentrate on "working" in this forum the surge of the newcomers probably happened when the price suddenly spike high in 2016-2017 Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FlyingDrozd on July 11, 2019, 10:12:59 AM I'm sorry to say it but probably 85-90% of the traffic is because of greed. Although I can (proudly) say I didn't have any paid signature until I was at least Full Member, but that's mainly because I didn't bother to check how it works back then, and I didn't know it can actually pay a decent amount.All those signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops some sort of "free money", attract more and more people who have come here to "work hard" and make as more as possible. There's a good side to it though: signature campaigns mean people are actually willing to do things for Bitcoin, which adds to it's acceptance. Not to be rude or anything, but joining a campaign when you have a rank lower than Full Member wasn't really worth it, right? Well, maybe back then it was. I think I joined my first campaign when I was Sr. Member. I do agree that those campaigns have a good side, but it's also good to think about whether it's worth the spam. Well, it definitely keeps the place alive, that's for sure. Can you tell me more about these campaigns? I didn't really get it. As you can see I'm a newbie here :) Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FlyingDrozd on July 11, 2019, 10:15:08 AM I'm sorry to say it but probably 85-90% of the traffic is because of greed. All those signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops some sort of "free money", attract more and more people who have come here to "work hard" and make as more as possible. Then comes the bots, alts and scammers, together with the FOMO-ed newbies trying to invest now and be rich in a year, because someone told them so but got fooled very easy and then shouting around that bitcoin is only for criminals, it's scam, ponzi, bubble etc... At the end we are all here only for the technology : https://cryptocoinsmarket.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Bitcoin-Meme-In-it-for-the-Technology-283x300.jpg I'm here for money ;D And communication Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: LoyceV on July 11, 2019, 10:18:12 AM Can you tell me more about these campaigns? I didn't really get it. As you can see I'm a newbie here :) See Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0).I'm here for money ;D You may want to read the rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) first. You just broke rule #32 for instance.Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: TheBeardedBaby on July 11, 2019, 10:23:24 AM ~ Can you tell me more about these campaigns? I didn't really get it. As you can see I'm a newbie here :) Well, when you reach a certain rank you have the possibility to add a signature under every post. Some projects are willing to pay for to advertise them in your signature space, like I do with ChipMixer. Then you have a certain amount of posts you have to do each week in order to get paid which is logical, because the project want to have some exposure (this does not apply for ChipMixer). You have to follow the forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0)and not spam the forum with bullshit. The better reputation you have the better campaigns you can join. You can check the Service section for campaigns paying in Bitcoin. There are also bounties for the social medias. See the Bounty Section. ~ I'm here for money ;D And communication Try to focus on Communication.. and learning before that, many tried to come only for the money and ended up banned - here the ban is personal and forever. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: PrimeNumber7 on July 12, 2019, 06:12:07 AM I'm sorry to say it but probably 85-90% of the traffic is because of greed. I don't disagree that greed is a serious problem. All those signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops some sort of "free money", attract more and more people who have come here to "work hard" and make as more as possible. I think the signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops, and other similar forms of "free money" happen on this forum because of the traffic it receives, and its popularity. It might be that there is a never ending cycle of high traffic causing "free money" opportunities, causing higher traffic, causing more "free money" opportunities, and so on. Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FlyingDrozd on July 12, 2019, 01:36:57 PM You may want to read the rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) first. You just broke rule #32 for instance. Omg didn't even realize that, was just joking around and thought it was obvious :) UPD. Just read the rule and didn't really get what exactly I broke tbh Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FlyingDrozd on July 12, 2019, 01:40:55 PM Well, when you reach a certain rank you have the possibility to add a signature under every post. Some projects are willing to pay for to advertise them in your signature space, like I do with ChipMixer. Then you have a certain amount of posts you have to do each week in order to get paid which is logical, because the project want to have some exposure (this does not apply for ChipMixer). You have to follow the forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1689727.0)and not spam the forum with bullshit. The better reputation you have the better campaigns you can join. You can check the Service section for campaigns paying in Bitcoin. There are also bounties for the social medias. See the Bounty Section. That sounds interesting, nice idea. Never seen such a system before. Try to focus on Communication.. and learning before that, many tried to come only for the money and ended up banned - here the ban is personal and forever. I was joking :( Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: Daniel91 on July 12, 2019, 02:33:25 PM I'm sorry to say it but probably 85-90% of the traffic is because of greed. I don't disagree that greed is a serious problem. All those signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops some sort of "free money", attract more and more people who have come here to "work hard" and make as more as possible. I think the signature campaigns, giveaways, airdrops, and other similar forms of "free money" happen on this forum because of the traffic it receives, and its popularity. It might be that there is a never ending cycle of high traffic causing "free money" opportunities, causing higher traffic, causing more "free money" opportunities, and so on. Bitcointalk is so famous in the btc community also because of many different ways to learn about btc and crypto. Many users like forum because of free ways to earn bitcoin or altcoins, or because of opportunity to be paid for something they do any way, writing on this forum. In such ways this forum becomes more popular, more users coming, more traffic, more advertisers etc. I don't see anything wrong here, everybody wins :) Title: Re: Why bitcointalk.org is so popular? Post by: FFrankie on July 12, 2019, 04:45:59 PM Hey guys. I'm a talkative person and participate in a lot of chats and forums. And I noticed that this forum is the most popular one. Can you explain to me how it happened and why? What's their success story? Because there is no other fourm dedicated to bitcoin, there is no competition, Twitter doesn't give enough characters for a big message. |
