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Sorry for the over-exciting title. A new token is announced and they have seemed to have hired an army of shills/thread bumpers.

Ann Thread :  Cryptoknowmics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5162581.msg51737237#msg51737237)




I know I could report the accounts and stuff but just creating this thread to spread awareness to stay away from investing in their IEO. Afterall, no legitimate service would hire shills to vouch for them.

Reported comments -surprisingly it got deleted quickly after reporting-

Edit - thread poofed

This looks like a bot bumping services, even if the accounts are nuked and the post's are deleted, more army will come to bump the thread. I have also seen many other projects using such, small and unwanted comments to bump there thread in the announcement section, which is pretty hard to tackle for a normal user. And yes, of course they are a scam project.

I think we could kill it by deleting the whole fucking ANN thread, so that the bots could not get a place to lay there eggs. BTW, I have reported the main post.

Usually, if there's enough evidence that they're using a bumping service the thread is removed, and the user might who posted it might even be banned. Although, we have to be careful because if competitors are aware of this they could stage this, and spam to look like bumping services on their competitors, and get their topic removed. It's a slippery slope.

Yes, I can understand, there is some misjudgment possible while judging if the poster's are hired by the ANN creator or its just a trap of other competitors to get the thread dumped. But mostly if it is done  frequently on a thread with number of newbie bot accounts, I don't think anyone is targeting that thread to be dumped, as this services seems to be paid and no one would be willing to risk it for free IMO.

And ya, you have also made the slippery slope more slopey by mentioning the above idea. ::)

Absolutely agree with you. It's usually for bumping, but I am aware of the fact that this could be used maliciously. I can't recall a situation in which this has happened yet, but if this becomes common knowledge, and we remove threads just like that it could very well become a problem in the future. 

Thanks for the info, I see Bitcointalk staff acts with a better sense of judgements on such cases. Keep it up !

How do you bring it out to be actually bumping the threads based on providing their services or are purposely doing it just for the sake of such threads being removed due to competition? What measures are taken when people are found who do it purposely? Are these guys banned or just warned to stop what they're doing?

I think its just an possible abuse but as welsh said he has not seen it happen often, so I don't think there is any such case until anyways.

Sorry for disrupting the conversation folks but I think this thread has served its purpose that is deleting the posts and the ANN. Thank you for reporting the posts and @MODS to nuke the thread. Locking this one for obvious reasons.

Whoever is caught bumping their services, is perma-banned. If a competition is staging the bumping, there's a fair chance it works out well, and the only thing the thread starter who could have been potentially banned is that he'll have to create a thread in meta about it. There's no real way to, at least for regular users to figure out who is behind the thread bumping scenario. 

I doubt if any kind of warning is going to hold waters once investors know an IEO is on for a project and on a good exchange. Again, I don't know if it's really a crime using bots posting to advertise and create awareness for a project, is it a crime here? We have had instances where genuine posters were been hired for projects here on this forum and those same projects ended up as scams. So, I think it's neither here nor there.