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What would you choose?
I know LAW as a coin from this project https://ubikiri.com/ (https://ubikiri.com/).
Libra is the most questionable to my mind, cuz I know it's not a crypto coin as we used to use.
GRAM is a coin from Telegram project, app for messaging.
So what is your choice?

And where is the link to other projects? I see Ubikiri only

You are right about Libra - it's not a coin. Don't buy it if you want to make profit

Other projects aren't ready for now as far as I know. So what could be the link? :) Its Twitter?

So what is the point of this thread? You can buy only one coin now, buy it...

I have turned a look at the location of my mobile devices But the site is still under development I could not check
Can you add some information about the project.

Cuz you want to be the owner of the most promising coin not a racer

You cannot buy it, only swap is possible

To swap for what?

I think you're only promoting this 3 coins aren't you? and besides Libra and Gram is officially advertise or commercialize here, isn't?
Actually, its very hard to believe in a new coins, So I most probably trusted was an altcoins listed on top most of the time.

In recent time, I have only heard about LIBRA coin and GRAM out of the three coins you've listed. But the fact still remains that they are new coins and these days I don't trust new coins.

He will be not able to buy Libra now as it is not released yet. Although, this is a coin, a stable one. Naturally, it will not give profit to its holders, but bring benefits. For instance, the residents of the countries who are expecting default can save their money using Libra. I guess people from the countries with the developed economy are also interested in the project.

I'm not conviced that Libra will be a goooooood project, it'll get regulated and will have a lot of things behind it.

You can find it by yourself, you know it, right?

And you can just say it and don't be a jerk...

Wow, wow, ok...Calm down, mate. You can swapped it from their another coin SilentNotary - SNTR. Law will be used inside its platform Ubikiri

Why do they need two coins? I don't understand this...

I told you everything I know...

There is no information about GRAM at all, so what is the point to buy it?

US already made a draft about that says a bigtech can be a threat for the traditional financial sector that already dominated by the government. It's too risky investing in the libra and for me ton is much preferable.

Ok, thank you

Well, we know that it will be blockchain based :)

I will choose Libra and GRAM. Libra will be very popular to fill the beginning of next year 2020. Yeah, I know many people are waiting, that's what makes me interested. Do you have the latest news? I hope there will be a big surprise to color the cryptocurrency market next year. Spirit! Thank you,

And? Libra will be too, but I won't buy it, cuz it's a stable coin

Well Libra is under control of Zucker and government so we can name it crypto

I'm talking about Gram. We know almost nothing about it, so maybe it will be some kind of Libra too

What makes you think that Libra is questionable and not a break crypto while GRAM (which you claim is a telegram project) is ok? Aren't both of them of social media family? Well, I think Libra will excel, giving to its affiliation and control by Facebook. That is if users don't mind the exposure to their privacy with KYC requirement. I think Libra is as good as any coin of payment and that is enough reason Zukerberg and team floated it to take care of adverts payment on their platform instead of going through the banks and fiat payments.

Only GRAM and LIBRA are known, but they have not yet issued coins and cannot be traded. But I know GRAM can buy futures.

just check out what telegram is and you'll understand that it has nothing in common with fb

I have a question to and I want you to answer. If Libra is not a coin or token or not categorized as cryptocurrency, what then is it? Because I know very well that Libra can be traded on cryptocurrency exchanges and the only way to trade them is by tokenizing them so please tell me

Libra is a joke and I hope the government won't let them use it on their spying platform. BTC will always be king and Facebook is both too late to the crypto party and too insincere in what the true purpose of what Libra really is.

As if Facebook really just wants to get their users interested in crypto. I get the feeling someone wants to make bank off their bloated userbase generating it for them and the users will get satoshi-like scraps to play around with, like giving kids pennies.

I know what Telegram is...

So you know that crypto-Telegram will be a good project too

No, as I don't use it

ok this dialogue makes no sense

What is LAW? I have heard nothing about it

smth that make you obey to the government

Really? Does author that mean?

I'm just joking :)

Libra is a some kind of stablecoin , let's name it a "digital equivalent of american dollar" , this is not an asset which can be used for investing . Gram can be very interesting for investing, because the presale phase was closed for ordinary investors and all tokens were sold to very large investors . I think that those who will be able to acquire Gram tokens among the first will definitely make good money

Libra is stable/centralized coin and afaik stable coin hardly appreciate, My concern now is what will be the incentives for the buyers and libra investors? if it won't add up in value do we really need another stable coin in the cryptosphere.

I am just learning about Ubikiri (Law) all thanks to you. It looks big but I don't know why I haven't come across it earlier. Libra is more of a stable payment coin equivalent to the dollar and might be regarded as a more bankable coin. I am eager to see gram work on Telegram since this platform is a haven for crypto

Seriously what is that??

a coin of a small network - Ubikiri

OK, now I understand, thank you

a small? dude they sold out 15 billion coins in hours

I understand this. But where are they? Not in top-100 CMC.

LAW is not on the market. Sure it will be much bigger than project's SNTR

Maybe but not so big as top altcois

I hope that libra will not be alive. the worst coin ever.
what about gram it has a huge changes

They are not even listed in the market and they are still on the ico phase, you will see that on top 100 CMC next year after all of ICOs will be over.
I believe telegram will be placed at the top CMC instantly.

Among the three coins, I will choose Libra and Gram. Libra Coin must have great potential in the market because it is supported by the largest social media in the world. Gram is also a great potential because the telegram application is one of the popular applications besides whatsapp and both coins offer easier transactions.

Buy LAW and that's all. In result we will see how you are right about that

you mean better buy Libra?

LOL, of course I didn't mean Libra. It's not a coin at all...

And it's not available for now :)

I mean better buy BTC

I already have it. I want smth more

Sooooo buy more BTC :))

Libra is a stable coin backing by Facebook so I don't think they will go far since the US won't allow that kind of thing.
GRAM is from Telegram but rarely get a mention so very small number of people to know about it.

Telegram is also launching a coin.. I bet Twitter will follow on this one soon.. damn.. I didnt know telegram was launching it's own coin.. not until this topic

I'll mostlikely buy gram... (telegram coin) holding onto libra is just too risky.. but their alot ignorant folks out there who thinks otherwise

Everything will depend on the state of the market. Libra promises to be attractive because it is supported by such a giant as Facebook. But there is not everything simple with the laws of the United States.

I believe some altcoins have a lot of prospects

Libra is not an altcoin!

Well I'm talking not about Libra now, about LAW

Is that Ubikiri thing?

it's a coin of Ubikiri yes read the comments

I don't have time on that

lol but have a time to speak with me

Ok, let's stop that, if you wish

Libra will not even be released, mark my words

maybe Mark my words?)

but why you think that it'll not be released?

If I had to invest one of the three coins, I would choose GRAM. It is currently a very hot project and is being discussed a lot.
Telegram now seems to be an indispensable application of traders, investors in Cryptocurrency.
more and more functions and in the future, it will be the most used talk app in the world.

Because of the recent news

you mean that "bank" problem? they'll negotiate, I am sure

They will freeze out that project, a lot of risks

hmmm I am sure Facebook is a partner with a lot of state subjects so it will not be a problem to become partners with banks lobby

Libra is not yet a coin but it will soon be and I am sure that you will also be tempted to buy some of it when it becomes released to the public in 2020. Everyone might just be saying whatever they are saying about Libra because of some certain believes that they thought from their mind, but Libra coin will have its own usefulness too, and you might never know, Libra may have solution to that one problem you have been looking for solution to it decades, so let us not be too quick to conclude that you will buy the coin or not.

It is better we let the coin be released first and see if they have any real use case or not, but based on their wit paper that I have seen, Libra coin really intends to bring so much into the cryptocurrency market, and I am sure many people will use it.

How they in theory can become partners? They are enemies in their nature

no, maybe banks will be some kind of intermediaries in the payment system, who knows how can it be. Maybe not so deep, some another variant etc.

I don't think that, you'll see

My choice there would be Libra, I see people making comments about Libra not being a coin, to be honest, I see big earning potential there because of it's popularity and it has even been added to CoinMarketCap even when it has not even been launched.

but all in all I have doubts that it will not be released

I am sure it is, just a pure hype, or it will be not so as it was declared

even now Libra is not a crypto project if they will change the concept it will be even worse

Agree with that

Definitely it is going to be Facebook coin, because Facebook coin will be more accepted than these other coins you mentioned, Facebook intention is to create a global currency which is actually in form of cryptocurrency because they are also using the blockchain technology to operate it.

Facebook has all the power and influence to push this project across the world and I already heard they have approached so many financial institutions and proposing to partner with them in which majority of them has fully picked interest in the coin once it is being released. If they can get many of these financial institutions to partner with them, then it is obvious that so many merchants will also be integrating their payment system into their market too for payment.

Looks like all social media platforms are trying to make use of blockchain and cryptocurrency model in their ecosystem, I'm already familiar with telegram, so if I am to make an investment on any of these three, it will be the GRAM token.

When we will see Gram platform?? Time is running, people are waiting, but Durov is not hurry up at all

They are making it as good as we expect it to be

In the meantime I haven't chosen between the three coins. because in my opinion the three coins have not been tested to what extent they are good and also how far the coins are in the crypto market.

Durov, is it you?

Yeah, Mark, you deanoned me

Really, I think they are too late with its running, all massive projects are already launched

I can't agree with you as they just don't hype with it, cuz its about technologies if we talk about Durov not about making money

Everything in crypto is about making money, mate :)

And? What do you mean by that? Don't you buy coins because Big Brother makes money on you?

I mean I buy only profitable coins that allow me to earn my money too or at least don't loose it

Are we still talking about GRAM?

You cannot be sure that you will get something from project just because of its name. Honestly, the majority of crypto community even doesn't knpw what Gram is

personally i would choosing LIBRA, because from other two, this one has many supported by other big project.

GRAM is not just name. It is an innovation first of all. Have you ever use Telegram, btw?

Telegram is just a messenger not a coin, you cannot compare them

I wouldn't be very optimistic about Libra:

- Facebook said in the risk factors section of its latest quarterly report that it can’t guarantee Libra “will be made available in a timely manner, or at all.”
- The company has said it expects to launch the Libra digital currency in 2020.
- Facebook has faced a flurry of pushback on Libra from U.S. and international regulators and lawmakers.

Buying grams in my opinion is very potential compared to libra, maybe both are very doubtful. because the regulation suppresses the libra of the launching country, therefore the inflation cannot be ascertained to enter the global market.

Gram(TON) plans to create a very large project, an ecosystem around its token, they as well as facebook has a huge number of users who will support the new project. My choice is Gram, it's closer to me.

o date, the most promising coin is GRAM. I know this because a very large number of institutional investors bought all the coins back at PRE-SALE. I am very pleased because the financial cushion for the project is very much

But there was a lot of problems with the token sale and i meant about it's not clear about how much already raised so far and the telegram team is not transparent. We are discussing about coins that already made by a popular company like telegram and libra but it looks like libra will become a failed project. GRAM still needs more transparent to the investors.

But you should admit that it is huge so will be a Gram too

I told you before. You cannot compare coin and messenger cuz they are completely different.

Well, I guess this dialogue doesn’t make sense...I believe in Gram and Durov and that’s all

are only these three coins offered ...?
isn't there still a lot of new coins that are more famous with clearer goals and functions. because I think these three coins are still in the development stage so I still hesitate to choose from the three coins.

Wow, relax...i just said that Durov isn't in hurry with its launching.

And that's exactly what I didn't understand: why is it too late? It's the era of crypto!

Look, mentioned LAW is already launched, Libra will be available very soon, but there is no information about GRAM. That's why I don't recommend you to buy it. Durov created Telegram and it's good but creating a coin is a different field...

It's unclear when Libra will be launched. I really believe that ecosystem will be a great thing to explore

Well, hope for that

And again, why exactly you all don't like Libra?

Obviously because of the fact that it's a stable coin

I don't get this...it's still blockchain based...

eeeahhh, it's some kind of tricky thing, but it's not decentralized, you know, Libra is under the company control

But Gram and Law too as I know?

Law and Gram are real coins, not stablecoins, obviously. Also if to know what Facebook is, it can be easily imagined how they can block your accounts with money, as they block them now

heh, for sure, it already blocked me once, I had to create a new account

So can you imagine if there was money in our case... It will hurt much more. Those cunning bastards decided to hype on a crypto theme!

I am optimistic to look forward to Libra until the beginning of next year 2020. We must know the developments in the world of cryptocurrency, so as not to be left behind. Libra will be one of the altcoins that are of great interest to many investors, let's look and look forward.

are you going to buy those two?

I don't know much about Law, I need to do more research

as well as I

Gram is my favourite for sure, THAT will be the REAL blockchain and REAL crypto

Why discuss coins that aren't there yet? No one ever knows how the coin will behave in the market, and even more so after a long time. Let these coins first come to the market, and in a few years you can talk about their merits.

I'm not familiar with it though I heard most often about Libra, and I do agreed too that it is not a coin for me, aside  from that
majority of the community in crypto world wont support this one including my self too. But I think these coins don't
good volume I think in the market.

Just read WP.. They are going to create a new cryptoworld on a pure blockchain principles, not just an e-wallet on a fake blockchain basis like FB!

I am not the fan of Libra idea, so I believe I would not invest in FB coin. But I like the idea of telegram and I believe that they would call their coin TON and not GRAM. Anyways, Telegram is going to develop something massive and I am patiently waiting for their market entrance.

Telegram is an application that is widely used today and is becoming an increasingly popular application. GRAM will be a rational choice compared to LAW because of the huge potential that exists in telegram applications.

I think ia very good if you buy and safe for stable coin..for buy some new coin i think it will be gambling investment with your funds.very high risk for it buddy.vlbuy stable coin and hold it untill price will grow up

If I were to make an investment on just one of all these coins, I will invest in Gram coin only because I've known telegram to crypto related from the start and during ICOs trend, telegram was a medium in which a most project turn to for passing information. The gram coin will have a better use.

So have masternodes of Law already started their work or not?

Of ubikiri, because law is a currency

thanks for clarification pal

No problems. I am here to help, lol.

so you know the answer on my question or just trolling?

I want to keep Gram and Libra. Unfortunately I do not have neither of them. Gram is a coin issued by Telegram, a leading messaging entity. Likewise, Libra is a digital currency Facebook is planning to issue. I think both of them have a good prospect and a good future. I will grab some Libra once it is issued by Facebook. 

Yeah, they are. Their blockchain is ready, but some bugs are arising during last days, they are fixing it, it's a normal situation at that initial stage

ok thanks

You want to have a masternode?

no just fooling around. silentnotary is a perspective one. but I have other projects as well.

Libra?

If these new coins are perfect then we may start seeing that they will be killing Facebook coin, and the only way to actually kill these coins is by playing with people’s mind. These cryptocurrencies are things they can naturally not pronounce dead, but they discourage people by declaring them illegal first so as to keep people away from it.

The acceptance of these coins all depends on us, although I for once never liked Facebook coin because they look quite distrustful to me, and the fact they are creating a stable coin which would not benefit any one that invested in it except using it for their own services, same as other coins that you mentioned along with Libra coin. Bitcoin still remains the only coin that will eventually stand alone in the market with time.

lol no. it's not a crypto btw

I know, just trolling.

So any news?.. Seems like all that project gain some hype and that's all..

you are sure about that? Or your internet connection was disabled?

Thanks, you have reminded me that I need to pay for that..

i knew I am right

About what?

Ubikiri scam
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