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Title: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 12:04:56 AM Hi, for all. My Friend hacked their about 2-3 months ago . My friend cn't write following months, so i will answer.
This is => Betcoin.ag => Playbetr.com => Coinbet.ag I have everything db,source! Contact and etc. My friend last words => "My two accounts were banned with balances 5.6btc. Yes, guys betcoin.ag it is scam. Betcoin.ag, playbetr.com, coinbet.ag is one company ((( . Tried to enter a dialogue with the administration, to no avail! I'm hacked their and steal databases and source code their projects. For proof please anybody with rep will write username and I'm answer email, transaction, wallets and etc ... I want to note that I did not steal money from users, that their company. I just want to return my money! There are a lot of interesting tickets in the database. They blocked users and steal 100 btc" <= Worlds my friend. Please who at bincointalk with rep write me here on pm for proof > who play at betcoin and etc we will proof it. p.s. database 16.4GB players: 800k at all databases. Not for sale, for js. Sorry for my english. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 12:10:58 AM This topic is only from the good to remove all betcoin topics so that only honest owners & players, remain.
Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: DarkStar_ on July 14, 2019, 12:23:27 AM I'm probably feeding the troll here but I'm curious. Wanna PM me the info for the username 'DarkStarFTW' on Betcoin? (or 'darkstar' on PlayBetr) It's a fairly new account so I don't think most of the information would be there if the data was obtained from the supposed breach that happened around 2017.
Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 01:05:33 AM Done
Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: DarkStar_ on July 14, 2019, 01:46:56 AM Done I confirm that I have received the correct Betcoin email and user ID. However, this information likely would have been in one of the supposed earlier breaches (I don't remember the exact details at the moment) and I have shared both details publicly. I've replied to their PM asking for info that could only have been obtained a few months ago. Update: I have also received my PlayBetr email (never shared before anywhere and is unique specifically to PlayBetr) and exact balances of my accounts from February 16 (Betcoin) and February 6 (PlayBetr) of this year. PlayBetr is 100% accurate, and while I don't have perfect memory of my Betcoin balances, they seem 100% correct. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 02:29:06 AM updated data in PM. Q? How did it happen and we were fed KYC, VPN, wrong email and etc!? Founded at 2013 lol!!!
Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: DarkStar_ on July 14, 2019, 02:48:44 AM I've made a post on both PlayBetr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100533.msg51814479#msg51814479)and Betcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616139.msg51814497#msg51814497)threads asking for their sides of the story. Based off of my current knowledge, cheatedplayer has very credible claims that Betcoin/PlayBetr have suffered a data breach at the bare minimum. I'm not familiar with Coinbet but they are most likely breached as well. I cannot vouch for the legitimacy of the user's other claims, being that Betcoin has blocked users and stolen 100 BTC.
updated data in PM. Q? How did it happen and we were fed KYC, VPN, wrong email and etc!? Founded at 2013 lol!!! Not too sure what you're trying to say here? Mind clarifying? Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 03:04:47 AM Pls, all about their shit company, bg,cb,pb,db and etc. Sum about min. aff. ~100 btc this is fact, no problem post the proof, how players frozen , how is their balance frozen how my friend? Else about poker? =) Very awesome story from log...
Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: SyGambler on July 14, 2019, 03:26:52 AM Pls, all about their shit company, bg,cb,pb,db and etc. Sum about min. aff. ~100 btc this is fact, no problem post the proof, how players frozen , how is their balance frozen how my friend? Else about poker? =) Very awesome story from log... would love to hear about the 100 BTC story if it doesn't do harm to these players at the moment really finding it hard to believe that players lost access to 100 BTC without making any noise here in the forums or in SBR actually many people in SBR do recommend Betcoin Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 03:42:40 AM All sum aff per year => 100btc , and lock players per for 1,5year => 303btc, welcome to this thread. From ripped only email or nickname at betcoin in this thread write this or pm . Information will help all. I also want to help a friend, although finally they gave money. 1btc instead of 5.6btc. Justice!
Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: Haunebu on July 14, 2019, 07:24:21 AM This is interesting. Don't usually come across threads like these where the user himself is a hacker. I don't know about playbetr, but I have heard a lot of stuff about how Betcoin swindled funds from their users.
Any betcoin users who got scammed need to check this thread out cautiously. Op might just be another smart scammer at the end of the day. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: eaLiTy on July 14, 2019, 08:09:12 AM Pls, all about their shit company, bg,cb,pb,db and etc. Sum about min. aff. ~100 btc this is fact, no problem post the proof, how players frozen , how is their balance frozen how my friend? Else about poker? =) Very awesome story from log... Since DarkStar_ vouched that what you claim about having the entire database, i would like to see about the scam accusation you said about the platform as 100BTC is not a small amount to get away like that and if you can provide the details without compromising the security of the users it would be great and hopefully we will get a response from betcoin.at the moment really finding it hard to believe that players lost access to 100 BTC without making any noise here in the forums or in SBR Majority of the users who rolls with huge amount does not have an account here, all they do is trade and then gamble with the profit they made and just repeat their process, so it is not a surprise that you do not see their issues here.actually many people in SBR do recommend Betcoin Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 11:29:32 AM Pls, all about their shit company, bg,cb,pb,db and etc. Sum about min. aff. ~100 btc this is fact, no problem post the proof, how players frozen , how is their balance frozen how my friend? Else about poker? =) Very awesome story from log... Since DarkStar_ vouched that what you claim about having the entire database, i would like to see about the scam accusation you said about the platform as 100BTC is not a small amount to get away like that and if you can provide the details without compromising the security of the users it would be great and hopefully we will get a response from betcoin.No problem sir, I will get this information ~4-6hours. Thnx for waiting ;) Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: milewilda on July 14, 2019, 11:57:55 AM Reading up all Darkstar's post/responses which do proves out that OP is credible on what he's trying to say here.Waiting up for Betcoin.ag forum support account to respond regarding with this issue.
Majority of the users who rolls with huge amount does not have an account here, all they do is trade and then gamble with the profit they made and just repeat their process, so it is not a surprise that you do not see their issues here. True,not all gamblers do know this forums existence so its no surprising if we cant find any complaints on here but somehow we might able to find related to this locked 100btc thing.Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: Jjewelle29 on July 14, 2019, 03:03:00 PM Pls, all about their shit company, bg,cb,pb,db and etc. Sum about min. aff. ~100 btc this is fact, no problem post the proof, how players frozen , how is their balance frozen how my friend? Else about poker? =) Very awesome story from log... Since DarkStar_ vouched that what you claim about having the entire database, i would like to see about the scam accusation you said about the platform as 100BTC is not a small amount to get away like that and if you can provide the details without compromising the security of the users it would be great and hopefully we will get a response from betcoin.at the moment really finding it hard to believe that players lost access to 100 BTC without making any noise here in the forums or in SBR Majority of the users who rolls with huge amount does not have an account here, all they do is trade and then gamble with the profit they made and just repeat their process, so it is not a surprise that you do not see their issues here.actually many people in SBR do recommend Betcoin Yes, you have a point not all users that playing on that sites has bitcointalk. So, its a small chance to see someone also complaining that issues here. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 03:12:34 PM Okay guys, frontend app Betcoin.ag and others projects Drupal 7, Let's do a sample of blocked users and who ever logins to website.
https://imgur.com/a/HbgDmX7 (https://imgur.com/a/HbgDmX7) ~59k players, wow! Backend only 1 for all projects framework Laravel. Let's do a sample of blocked users with balance! https://imgur.com/a/H5ErSxl (https://imgur.com/a/H5ErSxl) ~17k players with balance blocked!!! ??? p.s 1000 in screen = 1 btc Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: Betcoin.AG on July 14, 2019, 03:57:27 PM Hello, we are looking into this as a top priority, as we had not previously been made aware of this. We have not been contacted by this person, and are not certain what he is looking for, but we assure players that all balances are safe and if a breach was attempted, it will be stopped. We will provide more information once we have it.
Regarding the 'blocked' players, all accounts are closed after a period of inactivity, for the players own protection, and having the account reopened is as simple as asking us. If a player account was blocked due to fraud, the funds would not remain in the account. Thank you. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: DarkStar_ on July 14, 2019, 04:47:27 PM Pls, all about their shit company, bg,cb,pb,db and etc. Sum about min. aff. ~100 btc this is fact, no problem post the proof, how players frozen , how is their balance frozen how my friend? Else about poker? =) Very awesome story from log... Since DarkStar_ vouched that what you claim about having the entire databaseI did not. I stated that the OP has credible claims that Betcoin/PlayBetr has suffered a data breach. I cannot comment on the scope of the breach, though it seems pretty bad from the info OP has sent me and offered to send to me. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 05:01:44 PM Guys, and don't confuse you above my post with screen with blocked users and their frozen means? Community or not?
Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: Betcoin.AG on July 14, 2019, 05:26:25 PM We have attempted to contact the OP to get his Betcoin username, but have not received a response. OP knows there is no scam. There have been no legitimate players who were banned from Betcoin or you would have heard about it here. One thing we did note is that in his original post he mentions that he had 2 accounts banned, and of course if we did discover multiple accounts, they would have been banned, as on every site. If OP would like to provide us or this thread the usernames, we will be happy to comment further on this, but he will not, because this scam allegation is false.
As stated, if there is a blocked player with a balance, that was closed due to inactivity for security reasons, and can be reopened any time. No player who is banned will have a balance because it would have been seized per our terms of service. We are currently reviewing the state of this potential breach and will provide more info as soon as we are able. Additionally, Betcoin has licensed to use the same software as numerous other companies use. All balances and accounts are safe as they have been since 2013. We will continue to update you. Thank you. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: SyGambler on July 14, 2019, 06:17:38 PM As stated, if there is a blocked player with a balance, that was closed due to inactivity for security reasons, and can be reopened any time. No player who is banned will have a balance because it would have been seized per our terms of service. kinda makes sense if that's the case , but any idea if users are in danger in getting funds stolen ? are people with no 2FA enabled at a huge danger right now ? I contacted all my friends to either withdraw or set up 2FA fast but guess you need to make an announcement regarding that Majority of the users who rolls with huge amount does not have an account here, all they do is trade and then gamble with the profit they made and just repeat their process, so it is not a surprise that you do not see their issues here. they aren't forum regulars indeed , but that doesn't mean they will just sit and do nothing in case they lost funds I'm sure they would post something here or in any other gambling forum Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 06:22:58 PM We have attempted to contact the OP to get his Betcoin username, but have not received a response. OP knows there is no scam. There have been no legitimate players who were banned from Betcoin or you would have heard about it here. One thing we did note is that in his original post he mentions that he had 2 accounts banned, and of course if we did discover multiple accounts, they would have been banned, as on every site. If OP would like to provide us or this thread the usernames, we will be happy to comment further on this, but he will not, because this scam allegation is false. A u jocking? Have you contacted me until this day? Username!?Will not change anything ...As stated, if there is a blocked player with a balance, that was closed due to inactivity for security reasons, and can be reopened any time. No player who is banned will have a balance because it would have been seized per our terms of service. We are currently reviewing the state of this potential breach and will provide more info as soon as we are able. Additionally, Betcoin has licensed to use the same software as numerous other companies use. All balances and accounts are safe as they have been since 2013. We will continue to update you. Thank you. Quote We will be able to see more Additionally, it is licensed to use. All the balances are since 2013. We will continue to update you. Thank you. Looooooool. Please cold wallet for community! Bot poker? No :D!!!! Bot stuff ? No :D!!! Stop lying and return the money to all who are blocked by contacting them by mail !!! Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: veleten on July 14, 2019, 06:59:20 PM a very unusual topic , I must admit
what concerns me if the "password" field in the leaked database is a salted hash or OP has access to the accounts? would have been easier if OP spoke proper english and told us what is his ultimate goal here Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 07:09:43 PM a very unusual topic , I must admit what concerns me if the "password" field in the leaked database is a salted hash or OP has access to the accounts? would have been easier if OP spoke proper english and told us what is his ultimate goal here Frontend drupal 7, hash drupal useless for brutforce (dictionary, mask) and etc. But in drupal there are 3 ways to access your account, how? sorry not for public ... Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: Betcoin.AG on July 14, 2019, 08:14:22 PM Username!?Will not change anything ... It will give credibility to your story. Unless of course you are lying. Then it would debunk it. kinda makes sense if that's the case , but any idea if users are in danger in getting funds stolen ? are people with no 2FA enabled at a huge danger right now ? I contacted all my friends to either withdraw or set up 2FA fast but guess you need to make an announcement regarding that We deal with attempted breaches constantly and continue to improve our security each time. Everyone's funds are safe and passwords are encrypted (even we cannot view them). We recommend that everyone use 2FA, but unless someone has access to your email password, your account would not be in danger. Even if they did, we review all withdrawals for continuity, for example if there have been new logins or password changes. That said, this situation is being taken very seriously. OP did provide a player with a screenshot of his account info, but it was from February and we have no reason to believe that there has been any type of breach since then, however this is under intense scrutiny and a statement will be provided once that is complete. If anyone has any questions or concerns, feel free to post them here, send us a PM or a support ticket. All player funds are currently available for withdrawal, as always. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 08:42:25 PM Quote It will give credibility to your story. Unless of course you are lying. Then it would debunk it. I will wait while you speak more to unmask you in front of the whole community bitcointalk. Please will write more ... surprise: https://imgur.com/a/xlWXVUt (https://imgur.com/a/xlWXVUt) 40k why pay, if lock it easy, yeah? Tomorrow i'll will publish tickets support :-* Hey Guys, Who lost or blocked money from BT pls wite in this thread. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: Betcoin.AG on July 14, 2019, 09:09:01 PM We see that you cut this conversation from March in a way that it looks like there was an unpaid balance of a legitimate win, however the '40k' that player won was sent within 24 hours of the win.
What is also being discussed here was another player who won less than 1% of that amount, who was caught obviously defrauding the site. Although, it does appear that several months ago, you did illegally breach the site, we have nothing to hide as far as our legitimacy and we are happy to defend any claims you make. You still have not stated an account that you owned that was closed or blocked because that does not exist. You can clearly say, this is my account, this is what was taken, please provide an answer but you have not done that. That's because you were not scammed. You appear to be a former disgruntled programmer who had previous access to the websites supplied by the software provider and no longer does. You believe this is your best way to extort funds. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 09:38:10 PM Quote What is also being discussed here was another player who won less than 1% of that amount, who was caught obviously defrauding the site. Lying Lying LyingAlthough, it does appear that several months ago, you did illegally breach the site, we have nothing to hide as far as our legitimacy and we are happy to defend any claims you make. How about we start with your claim that you had your account banned. Why was your account banned? Were you caught cheating? What Discuss? My acc banned? Smile, where do i have all that you have db, src. "Players u a safe, mom swear" ;D username : deepdot Why locked ? Why not paid aff program to him? Prison? =) ---------------- interesting you links removed from the post to pay ----------------- ??? Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: Betcoin.AG on July 14, 2019, 09:47:48 PM Quote What is also being discussed here was another player who won less than 1% of that amount, who was caught obviously defrauding the site. Lying Lying LyingAlthough, it does appear that several months ago, you did illegally breach the site, we have nothing to hide as far as our legitimacy and we are happy to defend any claims you make. How about we start with your claim that you had your account banned. Why was your account banned? Were you caught cheating? What Discuss? My acc banned? Smile, where do i have all that you have db, src. "Players u a safe, mom swear" ;D username : deepdot Why locked ? Why not paid aff program to him? Prison? =) ---------------- interesting you links removed from the post to pay ----------------- ??? Deep has not logged into his account in 2 years. Accounts are locked for security, but a player or affiliate can request very quickly to have it opened. We know you already know that as you may have helped design this feature which does work exceptionally well. Just give us an account of yours that you state was scammed? You have failed to do this because it doesn't exist. You were not scammed and neither was anyone else. You clearly have accessed the software providers information and are attempting some sort of extortion. You may have had legitimate access at some point but you know nothing can be done with funds or accounts or you would be doing it. If you have the access you claim then you could unblock accounts, withdraw funds and essentially do whatever you want, but you have no access. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 14, 2019, 09:51:58 PM Leak where does everything come from? ::)
A u safe and your players exactly? please write me pm jessica, brandon , david, adam from administration betcoin. We will have fun together, but for screen bitcointalk with "all password hash and 2fa" ! Please pm me. UPDATE: PM Betcoin https://imgur.com/a/tXgnb9n UPDATE2: only for Betcoin and their manager https://imgur.com/a/6d4V3HA site.ini ? Problem ? Or more source code??? :-* Quote You have been unable to reach the site. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: eaLiTy on July 17, 2019, 02:37:59 AM If you have the access you claim then you could unblock accounts, withdraw funds and essentially do whatever you want, but you have no access. He might not be having access to the funds or the control panel but he might have cloned the entire site, good to see that you clarify what is going on. Stop lying and return the money to all who are blocked by contacting them by mail !!! Have you lost any money and if so do furnish the proof, there is no one accusing them that they had lost funds to the site or accounts being frozen, from what i remember TwitchySeal had an issue with the site and it is well documented here in this forum. Unless there is legitimate claims about funds being confiscated there is no point here. I did not. I stated that the OP has credible claims that Betcoin/PlayBetr has suffered a data breach. I cannot comment on the scope of the breach, though it seems pretty bad from the info OP has sent me and offered to send to me. Cheers mate, i understand the situation now :).Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: Rating Place on July 17, 2019, 03:51:25 AM Statement from Betcoin
Quote After an in-depth investigation into this matter, it was determined that a former programmer of the software provider, who had legitimate access, was able to gain additional access and download the database of Betcoin and several other licensees of the software. After this relationship was terminated, he no longer had any access to the database and at no time did he have access to any company or user funds. This is a very serious situation and we immediately devoted all resources to it once we were informed of it. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.3240We are bombarded by threats, DDOS and extortion attempts on a daily basis and each one improves our security. We are extremely regretful that this incident took place, but at no time was anyone’s passwords or funds in jeopardy. We do recommend that all players use a high-level password for both their email and Betcoin accounts and that you activate 2fa for additional security. If anyone needs assistance with an email or password change or setting up 2fa, please contact us any time. We wish to thank all of our players who have been so loyal to us since we first started in 2013. In this new age of technology, you often hear about some of the largest companies in the world having been breached and unfortunately, this is how new security methods are created. But we are happy to say that, throughout these 6 years, we have never had a player balance or password compromised. We will continue to improve and refine our security methods and we look forward to the next 6 years and beyond of serving our great players. If you have any questions or concerns, please let us know via DM, support ticket or email. Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: Nellayar on July 17, 2019, 07:31:59 AM Pls, all about their shit company, bg,cb,pb,db and etc. Sum about min. aff. ~100 btc this is fact, no problem post the proof, how players frozen , how is their balance frozen how my friend? Else about poker? =) Very awesome story from log... Since DarkStar_ vouched that what you claim about having the entire database, i would like to see about the scam accusation you said about the platform as 100BTC is not a small amount to get away like that and if you can provide the details without compromising the security of the users it would be great and hopefully we will get a response from betcoin.at the moment really finding it hard to believe that players lost access to 100 BTC without making any noise here in the forums or in SBR Majority of the users who rolls with huge amount does not have an account here, all they do is trade and then gamble with the profit they made and just repeat their process, so it is not a surprise that you do not see their issues here.actually many people in SBR do recommend Betcoin Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: otto93 on July 17, 2019, 12:45:53 PM Pls, all about their shit company, bg,cb,pb,db and etc. Sum about min. aff. ~100 btc this is fact, no problem post the proof, how players frozen , how is their balance frozen how my friend? Else about poker? =) Very awesome story from log... Since DarkStar_ vouched that what you claim about having the entire databaseI did not. I stated that the OP has credible claims that Betcoin/PlayBetr has suffered a data breach. I cannot comment on the scope of the breach, though it seems pretty bad from the info OP has sent me and offered to send to me. So in plain language sir /ma what really do you think should be done now that the user claims he has all the facts and yet admin are not replying his emails.. It's really had to see ones hard earnings fly away in a blink Title: Re: Betcoin.ag , Playbetr.com => Scam! Post by: cheatedplayer on July 17, 2019, 11:47:49 PM Excuse the problems with the Internet connect for the proof me need 4-5 days, follow the thread! thnks.
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