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Title: Reliable BTC mixers. Taint analysis tools available?
Post by: OROBTC on July 21, 2019, 05:39:32 AM
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After a long time away from bitcointalk, I am back.  And it has been an exciting time while I was traveling, having our grandchild, moving, etc.

Bitcoin mixers were always one of my favorite topics here.  I was a for a long time in the bimixer.io (http://bimixer.io) campaign, I was advertising for them not only for payments but because I also used their service a lot with great success.  I did note that they left the BTC mixing business for what seemed sudden reasons that I for one did not fully understand.

Anyway, who left is reliable now?  I do note that ChipMixer now seems to be the most trusted.  But I also note that various other mixers have had problems.

Who's left that with whom people have had good experiences?

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On a somewhat similar topic, does anyone provide a free taint analysis tool (like blockchain.info (http://blockchain.info) did years ago)?  Such a tool would be one test of how well a mixer breaks the link between our sending them BTC and what we would get.  That tool from blockchain.info was very nice.


Thank you!  I came here years ago as a complete beginner, and found many decent people who helped me along in the Bitcoin Ecosystem.


Title: Re: Reliable BTC mixers. Taint analysis tools available?
Post by: TryNinja on July 21, 2019, 06:07:45 AM
Anyway, who left is reliable now?  I do note that ChipMixer now seems to be the most trusted.  But I also note that various other mixers have had problems.

Who's left that with whom people have had good experiences?
I may be biased, but I believe ChipMixer is the by far the most trusted right now. BestMixer got seized by the government and BitBlender exit scammed afterwards (with the excuse that they were scarred of being arrested). I honestly don't know who else to trust after what happened.

BestMixer seized: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146123.0
BitBlender exit scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153756


Title: Re: Reliable BTC mixers. Taint analysis tools available?
Post by: OROBTC on July 21, 2019, 06:22:06 AM
Anyway, who left is reliable now?  I do note that ChipMixer now seems to be the most trusted.  But I also note that various other mixers have had problems.

Who's left that with whom people have had good experiences?
I may be biased, but I believe ChipMixer is the by far the most trusted right now. BestMixer got seized by the government and BitBlender exit scammed afterwards (with the excuse that they were scarred of being arrested). I honestly don't know who else to trust after what happened.

BestMixer seized: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146123.0
BitBlender exit scam: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153756


TryNinja, yes I was around here lurking to observe BestMixer get seized over there in The Netherlands.  I actually DID use them once (before their bust), and found their service to be just fine when I did use it.  For me, that was too bad they got busted, as the service did work for me.  Ah well, one less mixer.

I never did use BitBlender, but did note that they gave a very limited amount of time for customers to get their BTC out before they closed up shop.  It DID seem scammy, but I have no facts, and again, I never used them.

But, your above two examples show that the number of mixers is declining...

Finally, I did use ChipMixer once (I believe some two years ago), and found that it was confusing for me, but I was able to move the "chips" around to where I wanted them.  I forget the technique they used, and that experience some two years ago is still a little hazy for me.

I have noted in discussions of ChipMixer that their mixing technique is quite different than most other mixers, it does LOOK different.  Perhaps I should give them another try with a little BTC and see if I can get more comfortable with their method.

Thank you for passing along your response.


Title: Re: Reliable BTC mixers. Taint analysis tools available?
Post by: AdolfinWolf on July 21, 2019, 12:19:52 PM
Legaulois has made an extensive list of mixers here -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2827109

You should note that i've only ever used Chipmixer of the mixers on that list with substantial funds. I wouldn't trust most of them with large amounts, or to preserve any real privacy. (As these small ones are bound to go bust/be honeypots/get seized)

I've heard good things about wasabiwallet and coinjoin being trustless, but i've never used them myself, and they're not that userfriendly either from what i've heard. (And with small coinjoins i'm not entirely sure if your privacy is 100% preserved either.)


Title: Re: Reliable BTC mixers. Taint analysis tools available?
Post by: Bitum on July 21, 2019, 06:31:03 PM
Good list of mixers, I have not seen thread, very helpful, thank you. By the way, here is a very solid ETH mixer, if someone needs it. https://heiswap.exchange/