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Title: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Pecunia non olet on July 21, 2019, 09:59:27 AM
Bitcoin? No! It is old and expensive.

I would rather have Bitcoin Cash for its speed.
I would rather have Bitcoin SV for its uniqueness.
I would rather have Bitcoin Gold for its ASIC-resistant blockchain.
I would rather have Bitcoin Private for its privacy feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin Atom for its atomic swap feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin 2 for its masternodes.

Do you see the futility?


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: knuckey on July 21, 2019, 02:51:17 PM
Bitcoin remains Bitcoin, not cash, gold, private, atom and others, they are only altcoins that add Bitcoin as a hype to it. I think pioneers remain the main players that are always needed, just like windows is used as an OS for computers and android as a smartphone OS. Indeed there are always competitors who want to be the winner, but all of that is a challenge that must be defeated by the Hero.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: CryptoIyke on July 21, 2019, 04:10:10 PM
All these you just mentioned wouldn't exist without bitcoin, there is something they call massive adoption and that is what bitcoin has achieved, you can't have any of these in 1/20 places where btc would be found


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: YuginKadoya on July 21, 2019, 04:29:27 PM
Better Bitcoins? I wouldn't call Forks as Bitcoin, They may have the Bitcoin name in it but they are all still included in the mass majority of Altcoins, Bitcoin even if it has an unconfirmed transaction sometimes it still respond as fast enough transaction and now with its lightning network, Bitcoin still remain Unique it is the first and father of all Cryptocurrency that is why it still remained unique, I can say each and every Fork out there all of its features and uniqueness it is all just enhance copy by the original, I can surely say that Bitcoin still stay Original and strong throughout the years, And in the much more years to come.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: kindbtc on July 21, 2019, 05:21:32 PM
To understand the importance and value of bitcoin just consider it as a brand or parent company and all these forks are like sub brands or branches, so always the real value and customer will demand the brand and that creates the value so whatever happens bitcoin will sustain its brand and it will keep growing overtime.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Olatunjex on July 24, 2019, 02:09:50 PM
Bitcoin? No! It is old and expensive.

I would rather have Bitcoin Cash for its speed.
I would rather have Bitcoin SV for its uniqueness.
I would rather have Bitcoin Gold for its ASIC-resistant blockchain.
I would rather have Bitcoin Private for its privacy feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin Atom for its atomic swap feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin 2 for its masternodes.

Do you see the futility?
None of the aforementioned fork will ever be like bitcoin, bitcoin is bitcoin, if it's not bitcoin it can never bitcoin, the other forks are sub bitcoin not the real bitoin known by all crytpo users.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Tipstar on July 24, 2019, 02:14:40 PM
Bitcoin? No! It is old and expensive.

I would rather have Bitcoin Cash for its speed.
I would rather have Bitcoin SV for its uniqueness.
I would rather have Bitcoin Gold for its ASIC-resistant blockchain.
I would rather have Bitcoin Private for its privacy feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin Atom for its atomic swap feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin 2 for its masternodes.

Do you see the futility?

As many people have argued, Crypto actually has nothing to back it's price. The only one thing that's backing the current price is trust and community accepting it as a value. And there's no alts that has been (I'm not talking about the technicality but perception) as trustful and as adopted as bitcoin.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Thanasis on July 24, 2019, 02:17:55 PM
Not any of them are bitcoins,there is only one bitcoin and its called just bitcoin no prefix or suffix added to will not make it as bitcoin.

Even coins called monero has better anoymity andcoins with light weight can be transacted with very fast but sill people prefer bitcoin though.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: MadeinCoin on July 24, 2019, 02:32:03 PM
Coins created from forks cannot be called bitcoins and among the coins you mentioned will never replace bitcoin. Bitcoin is bitcoin, besides it is altcoin. Even if bitcoin has to be replaced, maybe Ethereum is more suitable to replace than fork coins that only rely on speculation.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: anexxty009 on July 24, 2019, 02:42:40 PM
From bitcoin came other coins and just like the way you can not forsake your great grandparents, down to parents, you can never and ever forgo the mother of all coins, bitcoin is the store of value for cryptocurrencies


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: eaLiTy on July 24, 2019, 02:44:47 PM
Bitcoin? No! It is old and expensive.
Bitcoin is the oldest coin and it is expensive to purchase, so what is the issue, transaction issues are not prevalent now in bitcoin.

I would rather have Bitcoin Cash for its speed.                              = I first used this to sell off the coins when they split from bitcoin, now holds a few
I would rather have Bitcoin SV for its uniqueness.                          = I have a few from the BCH i had
I would rather have Bitcoin Gold for its ASIC-resistant blockchain.   = Never bothered about this
I would rather have Bitcoin Private for its privacy feature.               = Never bothered
I would rather have Bitcoin Atom for its atomic swap feature.          = Never bothered
I would rather have Bitcoin 2 for its masternodes.                           = Never bothered

You can have plenty of fork coins but no one cares and that is a fact, it only confuses new users and we can see how long these coins will last.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Chomsy on July 24, 2019, 02:48:12 PM
In the end we all definitely need bitcoin.. Lol.. All these coins listed are in one way or the other connected to bitcoin. Of bitcoin fails, I don't see them surving. I see your point there.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: pishite on July 24, 2019, 03:35:04 PM
With Bitcoin everything started and he became a kind of trademark of the whole crypto world. And there are a lot of alternatives, but they will never be a substitute for the main currency.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: LuckyBtc on July 24, 2019, 04:28:01 PM
Bitcoin? No! It is old and expensive.

I would rather have Bitcoin Cash for its speed.
I would rather have Bitcoin SV for its uniqueness.
I would rather have Bitcoin Gold for its ASIC-resistant blockchain.
I would rather have Bitcoin Private for its privacy feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin Atom for its atomic swap feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin 2 for its masternodes.

Do you see the futility?
Bitcoin is old which make it the best and safe, Has gone through extensive tests, Is still not yet expensive, Extremely talented developer are behind Bitcoin. All these copies wouldn't existed if weren't for Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: WalkerIVIV on July 24, 2019, 04:28:55 PM
Bitcoin? No! It is old and expensive.

I would rather have Bitcoin Cash for its speed.
I would rather have Bitcoin SV for its uniqueness.
I would rather have Bitcoin Gold for its ASIC-resistant blockchain.
I would rather have Bitcoin Private for its privacy feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin Atom for its atomic swap feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin 2 for its masternodes.

Do you see the futility?
But there was the only one bitcoin that already approved by the world as a non-security and it can be considered as various things like commodity and store of value and that's bitcoin. you can find hundreds of platforms that copied the source code of bitcoin but bitcoin is the only one.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Thanasis on July 24, 2019, 05:06:48 PM
Bitcoin? No! It is old and expensive.

I would rather have Bitcoin Cash for its speed.
I would rather have Bitcoin SV for its uniqueness.
I would rather have Bitcoin Gold for its ASIC-resistant blockchain.
I would rather have Bitcoin Private for its privacy feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin Atom for its atomic swap feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin 2 for its masternodes.

Do you see the futility?
Bitcoin is old which make it the best and safe, Has gone through extensive tests, Is still not yet expensive, Extremely talented developer are behind Bitcoin. All these copies wouldn't existed if weren't for Bitcoin.
Simply original is better than clones.

We don't know the developer of bitcoin but he did the revolution by creating it.

Complete decentralization lies on bitcoin others were pseudo.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: NeuroticFish on July 24, 2019, 07:19:45 PM
Bitcoin? No! It is old and expensive.

Bitcoin has passed the time test.
Bitcoin is accepted by a big number of merchants as a valid coin for payments.
Bitcoin processes safely a big number of real transactions.

Your clones will most probably never get to be used as heavily as Bitcoin and if they would even get that chance, most probably they'd fail, either because of greed, either bugs or 51% attacks. So please don't shill worthless clones.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Tarion on July 25, 2019, 04:20:04 PM
Altcoins are much better in my opinion. I can understand that BTC was the first mover and it is the oldest coin on the market and so on. But just technically, BTC is like an old timer, looks okay, but is garbage when you compare it to modern analogs.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: eternalgloom on July 25, 2019, 04:57:58 PM
Sorry, but I don't see any of the coin you've listed really succeeding.
The fact that they're hijacking Bitcoin's name is reason enough for me not to use them.

When Bitcoin Cash first launched, I immediately withdrew my coins and exchanged them for regular old Bitcoin, as did many other people.

I'd rather invest in other forks that haven't called themselves Bitcoin, like Litecoin for example.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: coinporch on July 25, 2019, 05:09:21 PM
Bitcoin? No! It is old and expensive.

I would rather have Bitcoin Cash for its speed.
I would rather have Bitcoin SV for its uniqueness.
I would rather have Bitcoin Gold for its ASIC-resistant blockchain.
I would rather have Bitcoin Private for its privacy feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin Atom for its atomic swap feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin 2 for its masternodes.

Do you see the futility?

remember, you will never born in this world without your mother my friend
i think everyone knew if all bitcoin fork just a child from bitcoin, and the fact without bitcoin all bitcoin fork will never exist right ?
just one questions, do you need your mother or not ?


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: daniel2023 on July 25, 2019, 06:07:51 PM
The above named coins are good coins but Bitcoin still remains the king of the jungle. It leads while others follows. But diversifying is a very good practice for trader/investors.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: kingpin4321 on July 25, 2019, 09:21:17 PM
A good apple don't drop far from the tree. Bitcoin solidness is a bed rock for all bitcoin forks. Those bitcoin folks still are not yet match for altcoins examples ethereum and litcoin so they shouldn't reach out for bitcoin. The future will tell which coin would make or if bitcoin still going be the coin on the head.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: nemey on July 25, 2019, 11:26:02 PM
Well, there are probably many coins that serve so many better features, platforms, fees, utility, and also ideas. But, which one is a coin that serves the high trust from the token holders or investors? Bitcoin is the father of cryptocurrency. This has been acknowledged as certain crypto with high value and volume. This is also decentralized, unique, and able to mine. I don't think that people will agree to replace BTC with other coins.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Hemady17 on July 25, 2019, 11:49:28 PM
Bitcoin? No! It is old and expensive.

I would rather have Bitcoin Cash for its speed.
I would rather have Bitcoin SV for its uniqueness.
I would rather have Bitcoin Gold for its ASIC-resistant blockchain.
I would rather have Bitcoin Private for its privacy feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin Atom for its atomic swap feature.
I would rather have Bitcoin 2 for its masternodes.

Do you see the futility?
If that is the ideology of the people then why does bitcoin becomes the number cryptocurrency until now? Imagine, many people are still engage in bitcoin investment because bitcoin is inevitable and no one of them can dethrone it. The number of cryptocurrencies are rampant yet only few of them has a greater percent to become successful.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on July 26, 2019, 12:20:32 AM
You know what, OP?  I fully understand your point(s).  I've been a fan of PIVX for a while now, and it is one altcoin out of hundreds and would make for a much better currency than bitcoin.  Same thing for Dash, doge, and a whole bunch of other coins.  The network fees are much lower and confirmation times are much shorter.  When I buy bitcoin here on the forum, I usually have to wait at least a few minutes before I get the first confirmation, and I know damn well it cost the sender probably $1 to send it.

But bitcoin was the first, and it has the most devoted community by far.  That isn't going to change anytime soon, and as long as its price stays far above and beyond the rest of the coins, it'll reign supreme.

All of this may change eventually if crypto starts getting adopted as a real currency instead of just something to speculate with.  If the only thing to do with an altcoin is to pass it on to the next sucker for a profit, that coin isn't going to survive long anyway.  But if merchants start to accept various cryptos, people (hopefully) will gravitate to those with the lowest fees and fastest confirmation times.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Flor1982 on July 26, 2019, 12:21:39 AM
Bitcoin already build a deep foundation of trust among the investors as the most trusted and the most potential crypto currency to make their money to grow that is why even it has no commodity to promote and to advertise but still the people will fully trust Bitcoin for an investment.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: notblox1 on July 26, 2019, 12:26:21 AM
I consider all this altcoins good only as testing ground and experiment for real BTC bitcoin developers.
They can see all the problems this altcoins have,
and found best way for potential safe revolutionary update for Bitcoin.

Changing code to fast is risky,
not changing code at all is also risky.
Finding right balance is not easy


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: NavI_027 on July 26, 2019, 01:52:21 AM
I can relate it into this one. Bitcoin is the tree and its hardfork is just a shadow — a shadow that falls behind the object forever and always. Yeah! The shadow could become darker (meaning, become more famous like bch) or could also become lighter (like the other coins you listed) but one thing is for sure it will never outcast the tree. The tree is the origin and shadow will never exist without it. It happens that tree is much more appreciated than the shadow because of the gap between their values. The shadow become beneficial only because of its shade but the tree itself is the source of life; same things apply to btc and its hardforks :).


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: crwth on July 26, 2019, 01:58:49 AM
 In reality, knowing that the first cryptocurrency is bitcoin, it wouldn’t be so easy to be replaced. I know that a lot of projects,  coins, developers, etc. Are looking into a better alternative and There are coins that are better, but in terms of applications and acceptability to the public, it is bitcoin that is the most used. That’s one of the reasons that it is still on top and I don’t think it would be replaced anytime soon.

Personally, it’s quite easy to transact when using bitcoin compared to other altcoins like Monero, Ethereum, etc. I see that it’s more practical, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: patz22 on July 26, 2019, 02:04:18 AM
There should be no argument in here. Why btc? The alpha, first ever and pioneer of crypto. Yeah  most of or all them are better than btc but btc is thr original and no one beats the original. I hope it answers all and no need to discuss it though


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Juggy777 on July 26, 2019, 03:01:08 AM
There should be no argument in here. Why btc? The alpha, first ever and pioneer of crypto. Yeah  most of or all them are better than btc but btc is thr original and no one beats the original. I hope it answers all and no need to discuss it though

Bitcoin is the original crypto and rest alts you mentioned are either forked out of it, or created under its brand name. None of them will ever be able to generate the returns that bitcoin will be able to generate for you, and most importantly selling bitcoins is easy but selling those alts is very difficult. I would advise you to invest majority of your funds in bitcoin, and you can invest some amount of money in Ethereum too for diversification.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: guydin on July 26, 2019, 05:12:11 PM

Quote

remember, you will never born in this world without your mother my friend
i think everyone knew if all bitcoin fork just a child from bitcoin, and the fact without bitcoin all bitcoin fork will never exist right ?
just one questions, do you need your mother or not ?

This is a very good comparison. By the way, "Mother" is going to gain a lot. Some specialists in the crypto world have counted than in 2 years, Bitcoin price will reach 45 thousand. If it is true, the answer to the question about BTC and why we need it is simply evident. It is the best investment that can let many people change their life for the better.
Altcoins will not grow so greatly.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: SquallLeonhart on July 29, 2019, 05:15:03 PM
Why do we need these coins when we can just stick with bitcoin as the most reliable payment and decentralized coin, when all these coins that you mentioned are just copycat of bitcoin that has no use case. I would rather put my money or make use of the lowest coin in the market that is even dead than to out my money in all these projects that are called forked.

If they were that strong, why do they have to come as fork, rather than having their own separate project and using bitcoin to shine, now that they have used bitcoin to sine, they are claiming to be better than bitcoin. The only challenge with bitcoin is still the network fee, which is why people go for other altcoins that has cheap fee and that is all I see their benefits for, not like the way you are portraying it.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: upyem2k on July 29, 2019, 05:21:20 PM
Bitcoin remains the father while all those forks are nothing but forks. It is just like saying why do we need dollar when we cents in the United States of America or saying why do we need Naira when we have Kobo in Nigeria.


Title: Re: Why we need Bitcoin? When we have thousands of better Bitcoins.
Post by: Hans Groober on July 29, 2019, 07:05:22 PM
Bitcoin means, first of all, trust from investors, liquidity, confidence in price growth, minimal risks, and so on. All these characteristics make Bitcoin the best coin for investing and trading.