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Title: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: jayjayo on July 23, 2019, 02:20:23 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: SyGambler on July 23, 2019, 03:53:18 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

the majority of the old sites don't ask for KYC so you don't need to worry about it , the only site that asked me for KYC was a site that disappeared long time ago
but yeah in case they ask for that then they usually ask for the ID and Utillity Bill ( or any other document that proves where you are living )


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: rachman mahesa on July 23, 2019, 04:26:47 AM
Do you need to do KYC in a sportsbook to make a deposit? It seems that it doesn't have to be, because most gambling sites don't have to do KYC for every person / user who plays there. But if you want to do it anyway and you must. You can ask the admin there.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on July 23, 2019, 04:29:37 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Send your sefie and do the skype interview, those are the shit things about KYC and if you have a low cameraphone for sure you’ll get denied and your information are no longer safe. The worst thing about KYC is when they ask you to submit your private keys, that means its a scam.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: crypmon259 on July 23, 2019, 04:29:58 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

Usually most sports book don't ask for KYC during deposits or withdraw in cryptos. So if you want to know if a certain site do ask for kyc or not , you can easily find outby asking to their customer rep on the online live chat on their website. That will clear your doubts about the kyc process in that particular website.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Kasabus on July 23, 2019, 06:11:46 AM
Based on my experience using different sites in crypto, they never require a KYC because if they do, there are a lot of sites which can be our option.
However, I would like to relate it to not gambling site that requires KYC which I think it's the standard.
In some exchange, I submitted my ID, selfie, utility bill and even bank statement.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: swogerino on July 23, 2019, 06:35:12 AM
Most of the bitcoin sport betting sites,the well established one don't ask you for KYC until you win quite a decent amount of money.Because of anti money laundering policies they may ask a government ID to verify who you are in order to conform with the law of anti money laundering but this happens rarely in crypto betting casinos.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Avirunes on July 23, 2019, 06:43:31 AM
Usually most sports book don't ask for KYC during deposits or withdraw in cryptos.

That depends on volume of the withdraw sometimes, sometimes your transaction history... or anything that makes them suspicious.

Some of them also let it go if the withdrawal amount is low say approximately like near 100 mbtc. I've withdrawed so many times from sportsbooks and I've never been asked for KYC verification.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Vaskiy on July 23, 2019, 06:45:09 AM
Every gambling website require signing up of an account, other than that there isn't any more verification involved other than the email verification. Exchanges were the one that request for the KYC as there will be huge withdrawals. These days cryptocurrency users will always skip the websites that request KYC fulfillment as cryptocurrency users prefer to be anonymous.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Upgrade00 on July 23, 2019, 07:07:24 AM
The worst thing about KYC is when they ask you to submit your private keys, that means its a scam.

I have never come across a KYC process which required one to submit their wallet address, and doubt there is. Such information is not needed to prove the identity of someone and also is not meant to be shared.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: vintages on July 23, 2019, 11:46:17 AM
OP, your bet option is to message the support unit of the website you intend to use for enquires before proceeding to registration. Also, don't skip but read the terms and conditions of that website, any needed KYC information is mostly written there.

Every gambling website require signing up of an account, other than that there isn't any more verification involved other than the email verification. Exchanges were the one that request for the KYC as there will be huge withdrawals. These days cryptocurrency users will always skip the websites that request KYC fulfillment as cryptocurrency users prefer to be anonymous.

Some gambling sites are now requiring for it. Its their way of controlling underage gambling and money laundering. Moreover, the country the site is located in do have gambling policies that are requires obedience. Its all about using the website that meets your terms.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Haunebu on July 23, 2019, 11:57:50 AM
These days cryptocurrency users will always skip the websites that request KYC fulfillment as cryptocurrency users prefer to be anonymous.
I don't think so. It all comes down to the site itself at the end of the day. If the site in question is really popular like Binance, many would be willing to submit their KYC documents in such a scenario.

Bounty campaigns also request KYC after it ends and the campaigners forcefully end up submitting their KYC documents which is something I personally hate.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: davis196 on July 23, 2019, 11:58:57 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

There's no KYC verification when you deposit.KYC verifications must be conducted only before withdrawal(which is a pretty sneaky way for the casinos to keep your coins and try to scam you).
In most cases ID photo/scan should be enough.I've never heard about having to post utility bills or other documents.Yeah,I know that KYC sucks,but we should comply by the rules.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: avikz on July 23, 2019, 12:11:40 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

Firstly, you won't have to go through the kyc process if you are playing in a crypto casino! However, some licensed casinos may require your kyc documents if their local law demands it.

Secondly, kyc process requires you to verify you identity and address. Any document that can verify these two parameters, can be accepted as KYC proof. Example is passport where you can verify both of these parameters with a single document.

There is no proof of deposit is required as general practice!


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: robelneo on July 23, 2019, 12:25:08 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

First, are they asking you to do KYC for them and for what reason they are asking you to do KYC, they should have a valid reason why they are asking, some of them are not asking KYC, and if they are going to ask for KYC Passport and Utility bill is just enough, they might ask you to do photo with you holding your passport but ask if it is ok to put a watermark for specific purpose.




Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: YuginKadoya on July 23, 2019, 12:43:40 PM
I only see KYC as protection over the transaction for the owners so they will know the identity of each gambler, It will sure gonna take away each gambler's anonymity and their identity exposes, Well I am against this KYC thing but if it is for gambling sake I don't see any reason to let the trust over anonymity take over every transaction, This is cryptocurrency anyhow!

Well, I guess there are places and services that needed most of this KYC thing but I guess they can let it slide when people are just gambling and don't let them take peoples identity that will only benefit their own gambling site, There are old gambling sites that don't require KYC and it is trusted by the people in the crypto community.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Oilacris on July 23, 2019, 12:56:19 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Which sportsbook you are talking into? Most of sportsbooks doesn't require any KYC for you to make bets unless if you are dealing with Fiat based.



Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Indamuck on July 23, 2019, 01:02:30 PM
If you have to submit to KYC then you might as well just use a regular casino instead that is more heavily regulated.  A lot of people are using crypto casinos to stay somewhat anonymous and everything gets thrown out the window when this happens.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: audaciousbeing on July 23, 2019, 01:46:36 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

It actually differs on various sites depending on how much they want to 'torture' you. Some can go as far as requesting for your international passport and others can even told you to snap with today's newspaper. However, the concern I have is that for someone who wants to carry out money laundering using the gambling site, getting a fake ID or buying other people's identity who does not even have anything to do with the site won't be a problem to them. But the KYC would be a control measure and not necessarily a torture. You only need to visit the site you are comfortable with what is being requested and that should settle it.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: joeperry on July 23, 2019, 01:52:33 PM
I've been invested to a sportsbook with a casino games before (Fortunejack to be exact) and I don't think they would require you to conduct a KYC process well it's important to look for a gambling website that accepts cryptocurrency that didn't required user a KYC we should remember that the cryptocurrency was made in order to have a privacy and to conduct a anonymous transaction and yet they will ask a KYC verification.

But we should also understand their concern it is to avoid multiple accounts that will abuse bonuses and to avoid money laundering.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: shoreno on July 23, 2019, 02:42:04 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

It actually differs on various sites depending on how much they want to 'torture' you. Some can go as far as requesting for your international passport and others can even told you to snap with today's newspaper. However, the concern I have is that for someone who wants to carry out money laundering using the gambling site, getting a fake ID or buying other people's identity who does not even have anything to do with the site won't be a problem to them. But the KYC would be a control measure and not necessarily a torture. You only need to visit the site you are comfortable with what is being requested and that should settle it.

lol so you think kyc is built to torture people ? to some scammers yes but for a legit company they will only keep your kyc in the vault after they have done using it  . and i dont think the kyc process differs from site to site because i have been on a different sites before that requires a kyc and all of them usually ask for a drivers license or a passport and then a selfie of you hodling the said i.d'/s .  there are some sites that are strict and will schedule you a video call  ,to see if you arent faking them .


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: suzanne5223 on July 23, 2019, 03:01:48 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

the majority of the old sites don't ask for KYC so you don't need to worry about it , the only site that asked me for KYC was a site that disappeared long time ago
but yeah in case they ask for that then they usually ask for the ID and Utillity Bill ( or any other document that proves where you are living )
To my own understand base on what I have seen so far, no sport book gambling site will ever ask you for KYC as the deposition is concern and the only ask for KYC when you make withdrawal. However, they usually ask for a copy of valid identification (passport, driver's license), proof of address (recent utility bill or bank statement) and a picture of of the player containing a proof of date etc.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: The Cryptovator on July 23, 2019, 03:11:06 PM
The website will give you instructions what you need for KYC. I think most of sportsbet will not ask you for KYC, if need they might ask for specific documents. Photo id would be primary document to prove yourself. Utility bill or Bank statements would be prove your address. Always we should read terms of service if there is any other requirement.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: bitcoin31 on July 23, 2019, 03:27:01 PM
Only few gambling site who implementing KYC and they have differetn requirements about KYC other need to pass for sure ID that is no. 1 requirements. Most of the gambling sites did not implementing KYc so choose the gambling sites Who needed only email verification and other minor requirements that hide your real Identity for them.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Theb on July 23, 2019, 03:55:11 PM
I haven't heard much about KYC process when your are depositing money on a gambling site its when withdrawing what you one that some sites ask you KYC and I get that because unusual amounts being withdrawn do need to undergo a verification and fraud assessment process before they let it go. Usually what gambling sites asks are just public IDs and proof address that you are living in that country.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: MI6 on July 23, 2019, 05:19:48 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
For now i rarely to see some sites whether it is gambling or trading site that ask our utility bills, usually if tier 1 KYC only ID and ask us to take selfie for it. Maybe that thing already enough for me when want to use service of online sites that ask users to do KYC.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: leowonderful on July 23, 2019, 05:33:20 PM
Yep, usually a selfie and a utility bill if applicable and that's about it for most places. Some sites go out of their way to request difficult to procure documents just to prevent certain people from withdrawing, but for most sites you just need an ID and a utility bill and you should be set.

If you have to submit to KYC then you might as well just use a regular casino instead that is more heavily regulated.  A lot of people are using crypto casinos to stay somewhat anonymous and everything gets thrown out the window when this happens.

The problem is some sites request KYC on withdrawal, and most sites that do this don't warn you about needing to submit KYC to withdraw before deposits.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: iyah adrian on July 23, 2019, 06:07:49 PM
A lot of people are using crypto casinos to stay somewhat anonymous and everything gets thrown out the window when this happens.
Even most people do not like things like KYC for gambling. And it's true what you say, people will gamble for anonymity without many people knowing our true identity. Plus if we play in the crypto casino with a small round, it is certainly not recommended to do KYC.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: akram143 on July 23, 2019, 06:27:58 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Depends on the sites but I am not sure any sites asking for utility bills? Only exchanges were asked for it when I am trading on it.

But the proof of deposit won't be asked on many cases only your nationality will be asked with address verification.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: jvdp on July 23, 2019, 07:00:08 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

Normally wallet providers, ICO and exchanges look for your selfie photograph with the any of government ID proofs.
Such as Driving licence, passport, SSN number and so on.

But seriously not sure about the sports book KYC documents, may be same you need submit there too.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Becky666 on July 23, 2019, 07:30:26 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.
- ID
- Utility Bill
what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Its surprising to see much Newbies asking questions regarding KYC, any gambling platform's that ask for such information are not decentralized gambling platform's rather a centralized platform with risk of exposing your privacy or selling out your privacy. If any gambling platform's as your KYC, you have to run run mate.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on July 23, 2019, 07:36:48 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.
- ID
- Utility Bill
what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

KYC's purpose is to show the authenticity of data and the legality of users using services. the most frequently asked is a state identity such as a national license or driver license and international identity such as a passport visa. KYC is not possible to ask for detailed credit card info or others use your own data wisely.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: iMark on July 24, 2019, 02:15:31 AM
I've been invested to a sportsbook with a casino games before (Fortunejack to be exact) and I don't think they would require you to conduct a KYC process well it's important to look for a gambling website that accepts cryptocurrency that didn't required user a KYC we should remember that the cryptocurrency was made in order to have a privacy and to conduct a anonymous transaction and yet they will ask a KYC verification.

But we should also understand their concern it is to avoid multiple accounts that will abuse bonuses and to avoid money laundering.
Actually using IP filters is already able to minimize cheating on abuse bonuses, applying KYC will only reduce the number of players who will play on their site, that's the fact. all gambling players are wanted a privacy first when they join and use it for gambling, when there are KYC rules, of course they will stay away from it, Like me.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: tsaroz on July 24, 2019, 02:34:46 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

I haven't encountered any crypto based gambling site enforcing a KYC on me. Though there has been some cases of such.
It's easier to do a KYC with the ID and bank statement and most of the sites would stick with that at the current time.
I have always struggled to submit a Utility bill and would skip any sites implementing that.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Ucy on July 24, 2019, 12:46:38 PM
Do you need to do KYC in a sportsbook to make a deposit? It seems that it doesn't have to be, because most gambling sites don't have to do KYC for every person / user who plays there. But if you want to do it anyway and you must. You can ask the admin there.

This is just for deposit, how about during withdrawal of wins?

Op should be aware that they could demand for KYC during withdrawal even though they don't demand for it the beginning. 
He should probably read their terms of service to avoid being trapped.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: mitchr4 on July 24, 2019, 12:54:41 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
I wonder what sportsbook sites offer KYC?
In my opinion KYC for a gambling site is not necessary if you use Bitcoin to gamble you don't need to provide proof of deposit because it's already recorded on the blockchain.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: virasog on July 24, 2019, 02:32:36 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

In most of the KYC process, they will ask for your front and back side of your Identity card and your picture holding your ID card. Some sites may require only your picture (and do not require you to hold it).  Yes, sometimes it feels a torture doing a kyc when we are forced to do it.  :-\


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: bering on July 24, 2019, 02:51:25 PM
As far i know usually KYC required for withdrawal purpose and deposit so far not necessary to submit KYC and regarding the terms for KYC i think from sportbooks to other sportbooks maybe will have different requirements to submit KYC and it could be good if you asking first to them what type of documents to verified your accounts or before deposit you can read the FAQ


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: bitgolden on July 24, 2019, 02:51:57 PM
Based on my experience using different sites in crypto, they never require a KYC because if they do, there are a lot of sites which can be our option.
However, I would like to relate it to not gambling site that requires KYC which I think it's the standard.
In some exchange, I submitted my ID, selfie, utility bill and even bank statement.
I believe you have not won some kind of money that would require them asking you for KYC at withdrawal because this is what a lot of these sites do these days. You will just be glad that the site is free of KYC requirement until once it’s at the point of withdrawal, they start demanding. This can be annoying really

The sites are aware that there are so many alternative sites that do not require KYC procedure, so putting it to players at the beginning might not do them well, so what most of them do, is to wait till the time of withdrawal especially when the money involved is quite big. I have something against sites that ask for KYC because I don’t trust them one bit and there is every tendency that this information can be leaked.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: kingpin4321 on July 24, 2019, 02:58:51 PM
but if you follow rules you should be ok if the casino you join is legit.
As long as its legit, going through the KYC process should not pose any problems whatsoever, though new sportsbook/gambling sites hardly ever ask for KYC except if course you're attempting to deposit or withdraw quite a large sum.
But always be cautious of the documents you're required to deposit, if any doesn't suit you or if you feel it's suspicious, it's adviced you back out


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: joshy23 on July 24, 2019, 03:10:31 PM
but if you follow rules you should be ok if the casino you join is legit.
As long as its legit, going through the KYC process should not pose any problems whatsoever, though new sportsbook/gambling sites hardly ever ask for KYC except if course you're attempting to deposit or withdraw quite a large sum.
But always be cautious of the documents you're required to deposit, if any doesn't suit you or if you feel it's suspicious, it's adviced you back out
It's your own position whether to submit your personal information inside the sports house, same a like with sending it with centralized exchange, if you feel that the gambling house is trustworthy and already established good reputations it's not a problem providing those documents especially if you are a gambler where you mostly use the house.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: rhomelmabini on July 24, 2019, 03:14:28 PM
May we know what site is it that requests a KYC for a deposit? AFAIK most gambling sites don't ask a KYC for a deposit maybe you mistype it with withdrawal instead of deposit before you make this thread. If you feel that you don't like it you can search other gambling sites (prefer the trusted sites) that don't require KYC's for sure you'll find some.

Ask there support first before continuing of passing some documents because if you do and sent wrong or low-quality documents (e.g. taken photo) and never require for another verification that for sure a trouble.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: The Cryptovator on July 24, 2019, 06:06:15 PM
AFAIK most gambling sites don't ask a KYC for a deposit maybe you mistype it with withdrawal instead of deposit before you make this thread.
Most likely you are right, because no one would ask KYC for make an diposite. Whatever scam accusation I have seen most of them are during fund withdrawal time. That means few shady gambling/sportsbook asking KYC when a user want to withdraw their winnings funds. They make this drama just for scam people's. Even user submit correct documents they deny it in order to scam user.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: ruthwithers1980 on July 25, 2019, 05:51:16 AM
I believe every crypto sports bettor hates KYC in casinos.

https://www.bestbitcoinslots.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/reasons-crypto-players-skip-kyc-casinos-jpg-103kb.jpg (https://www.bestbitcoinslots.com/news/4-reasons-crypto-players-skip-casinos-with-kyc/)


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: mich on July 25, 2019, 06:00:26 AM
https://www.knowyourcustomer.com is a site that I have used to very my identity before
But most of the time you wont even be asked for a KYC unless the casinos suspect cheating or shady behaviors on your account.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: imstillthebest on July 25, 2019, 10:33:32 AM
May we know what site is it that requests a KYC for a deposit?
i believe that its a new kind of site because new site tends to experiment and add new features that have never seen before  .

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AFAIK most gambling sites don't ask a KYC for a deposit
yes but most of them require a kyc before or during sign up on the site .

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If you feel that you don't like it you can search other gambling sites (prefer the trusted sites) that don't require KYC's for sure you'll find some.
most trusted sites are now also requiring a kyc but thats better than unsecure ones that dont ask for a kyc  .

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Ask there support first before continuing of passing some documents because if you do and sent wrong or low-quality documents (e.g. taken photo) and never require for another verification that for sure a trouble.
they should give a notice about that  . it states that the pic must be clear if not it wont be accepted  .


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: goaldigger on July 25, 2019, 01:00:18 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Send your sefie and do the skype interview, those are the shit things about KYC and if you have a low cameraphone for sure you’ll get denied and your information are no longer safe. The worst thing about KYC is when they ask you to submit your private keys, that means its a scam.

I remember my friend who's been also asked for a private key for the same process as yours. Gladly he didnt give it and he's alert regarding this matter. Just dont give your private keys or passwords when you fill up your KYC .


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Best Dreams on July 26, 2019, 01:05:12 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Send your sefie and do the skype interview, those are the shit things about KYC and if you have a low cameraphone for sure you’ll get denied and your information are no longer safe. The worst thing about KYC is when they ask you to submit your private keys, that means its a scam.

I remember my friend who's been also asked for a private key for the same process as yours. Gladly he didnt give it and he's alert regarding this matter. Just dont give your private keys or passwords when you fill up your KYC .
Yes we need to be secure and to stay  careful about our gambling once you share about your private key it will harm your safety. There are scammers who if once get your private key they will make plan to hack your wallet and will steal your all coins. Don’t get in unknown websites other side it is harmful.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: bitgolden on July 26, 2019, 04:04:04 PM
but if you follow rules you should be ok if the casino you join is legit.
As long as its legit, going through the KYC process should not pose any problems whatsoever, though new sportsbook/gambling sites hardly ever ask for KYC except if course you're attempting to deposit or withdraw quite a large sum.
But always be cautious of the documents you're required to deposit, if any doesn't suit you or if you feel it's suspicious, it's adviced you back out
There is absolutely no way that a gambling site that asks for KYC is legit in the eyes of most gamblers Lol. I find this very funny and sometimes I do wonder, what really is the big deal about this KYC of a thing? This is what I do always because I am sure of the site I bet on. I expect it to be the same with every gambler but reverse is always the case.

And one thing I have noticed is this; so many gamblers that are always afraid of KYC sites do not have clean hands. Maybe there are some shady activities they are hiding because no reputable site would ever take advantage of players’ information. And what is required is usually utility bills, passport photocopy and some minor information that can be asked anywhere.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Irvinn on July 26, 2019, 05:50:25 PM
In my opinion, before you raise such a question, you must first have reliable information, why cryptocurrency users are afraid to provide passport data and why the gambling site should be provided to KYC.  Although if you return back in 2016, the popularity of cryptocurrency spread not only because of its volatility, but also because of the possibility of anonymously owning your assets.  Today, anonymity melts like ice.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: adzino on July 26, 2019, 07:10:05 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Most of the sportsbook might ask you to complete the KYC process when trying to withdraw your winnings.  Just look at their Terms of Service and you will find that they can ask for documentations whenever they want. During filling the KYC form, in order to match your information, most of them will ask for a government issued ID card and to verify you current place of residence, they will ask for utility bills. Last thing they might ask is to send them a selfie of yours while holding your ID card.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: syamster on July 26, 2019, 08:39:50 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Send your sefie and do the skype interview, those are the shit things about KYC and if you have a low cameraphone for sure you’ll get denied and your information are no longer safe. The worst thing about KYC is when they ask you to submit your private keys, that means its a scam.

I remember my friend who's been also asked for a private key for the same process as yours. Gladly he didnt give it and he's alert regarding this matter. Just dont give your private keys or passwords when you fill up your KYC .
Yes we need to be secure and to stay  careful about our gambling once you share about your private key it will harm your safety. There are scammers who if once get your private key they will make plan to hack your wallet and will steal your all coins. Don’t get in unknown websites other side it is harmful.
No doubt only foolish and only careless people use to share their private information with unknown people. Those who are having professional mentality never do this. KYC is directly connected with your future as an investor and as gambler. So don’t share your KYC with any one even not with your family.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Botnake on July 26, 2019, 11:53:52 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Most of the sportsbook might ask you to complete the KYC process when trying to withdraw your winnings.  Just look at their Terms of Service and you will find that they can ask for documentations whenever they want. During filling the KYC form, in order to match your information, most of them will ask for a government issued ID card and to verify you current place of residence, they will ask for utility bills. Last thing they might ask is to send them a selfie of yours while holding your ID card.
That's just alright if you trust the sportsbook, however, let's admit it that most of the gamblers are not reading the TOS prior to signing and therefore they don't have the right to complain when in the first place they don't read the TOS.

Nowadays, KYC is already required for regulated business such as sportsbook and for me there is no reason to submit a KYC if the sportsbook is not regulated as you are just putting your self at risk.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: passwordnow on July 27, 2019, 12:41:54 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.
You send bitcoin through your casino owned bitcoin wallet address, they won't asked for KYC if you will deposit.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
It's not mandatory to comply KYC because not majority of them ask for it. They'll ask for it if they have found something against their ToS. The most preferred valid ID would be drivers license and passport.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: maydna on July 27, 2019, 01:45:24 AM
but if you follow rules you should be ok if the casino you join is legit.
As long as its legit, going through the KYC process should not pose any problems whatsoever, though new sportsbook/gambling sites hardly ever ask for KYC except if course you're attempting to deposit or withdraw quite a large sum.
But always be cautious of the documents you're required to deposit, if any doesn't suit you or if you feel it's suspicious, it's adviced you back out

Fortunately, we are using crypto gambling, which will allow us to play gambling with or without complete the KYC. If we are okay with the KYC and we can find the legit gambling website, we can go to with them. But if we don't like KYC, we can choose the gambling website which is not applied KYC, and we can find recommended gambling website too. That is our decision of what we want to select because playing gambling with crypto means we are free to choose the website, and we can select any gambling site.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: fortunecrypto on July 27, 2019, 04:54:37 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

I've done two KYC but they are on exchanges and only few sportsbooks asked for KYC, those who asked KYC ask national ID like passport and company ID and sometimes Utility Bill, they will sometimes ask you to take a pic of yourself holding an ID, after you just need to wait a few days to get confirm.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: JohnBitCo on July 27, 2019, 05:09:47 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Send your sefie and do the skype interview, those are the shit things about KYC and if you have a low cameraphone for sure you’ll get denied and your information are no longer safe. The worst thing about KYC is when they ask you to submit your private keys, that means its a scam.

I remember my friend who's been also asked for a private key for the same process as yours. Gladly he didnt give it and he's alert regarding this matter. Just dont give your private keys or passwords when you fill up your KYC .

This is one example of how sites scam in the name of KYC. Why would anyone need our private keys. Only to stole our funds  ???
You have not given your private key but there would be many people who would have become victim of this scam.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: FanEagle on July 27, 2019, 06:06:49 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
Send your sefie and do the skype interview, those are the shit things about KYC and if you have a low cameraphone for sure you’ll get denied and your information are no longer safe. The worst thing about KYC is when they ask you to submit your private keys, that means its a scam.

I remember my friend who's been also asked for a private key for the same process as yours. Gladly he didnt give it and he's alert regarding this matter. Just dont give your private keys or passwords when you fill up your KYC .
I think am hearing about private key for the first time, the few sites that ever asked for KYC never asked me for my private key and yet I refused because it didn’t look safe for me to submit my personal information. I would definitely conclude they are scam if they asked for My private key.

Even the scam sites should be aware that no gambler would be that stupid to drop such details and any gambler that does that is nothing but a greedy player and I will not feel sympathy for such if they get duped. What promises would lure or make a gambler do this?? KYC on its own is scam in my opinion and it shouldn’t be supported in a decentralized system as this.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Spaffin on July 27, 2019, 10:17:58 AM
It seems to me that in the near future we will all need to persuade many gamblers in the absence of the danger of providing KYC and that this process will be not only forced, but also the most popular when using not only gambling sites, but also when operating in a cryptocurrency market.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: FanEagle on July 27, 2019, 03:20:12 PM
but if you follow rules you should be ok if the casino you join is legit.
As long as its legit, going through the KYC process should not pose any problems whatsoever, though new sportsbook/gambling sites hardly ever ask for KYC except if course you're attempting to deposit or withdraw quite a large sum.
But always be cautious of the documents you're required to deposit, if any doesn't suit you or if you feel it's suspicious, it's adviced you back out
It's your own position whether to submit your personal information inside the sports house, same a like with sending it with centralized exchange, if you feel that the gambling house is trustworthy and already established good reputations it's not a problem providing those documents especially if you are a gambler where you mostly use the house.
KYC process have been trending nowadays.But if you only want to gamble and it happens that you were asked to do KYC,it's up to you if you will abide with it or simply find other sites that are not requiring KYC.But in some instances like withrawing a huge amount as your winnings in gambling,it's good to undergo KYC for your own security measures.
KYC has been existing for a very longtime and I think it started trending in gambling more because of some notable casino sites that are now requesting for it. In those days, it was more common with scam sites and some few unrecognized sites but these days , it seems almost asking for it one way or the other, either during registration or at withdrawal.

Although the purpose of this KYC is still not clear to me, because in my understanding, most casino sites are using Bitcoin or other smaller coins and this is supposed to make it decentralized and what cryptocurrency is all about is anonymity, so why KYC ? And who are those dropping their information with this sites, if they aren’t getting clients I believe they would have canceled it by now.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Oilacris on July 27, 2019, 04:26:12 PM
but if you follow rules you should be ok if the casino you join is legit.
As long as its legit, going through the KYC process should not pose any problems whatsoever, though new sportsbook/gambling sites hardly ever ask for KYC except if course you're attempting to deposit or withdraw quite a large sum.
But always be cautious of the documents you're required to deposit, if any doesn't suit you or if you feel it's suspicious, it's adviced you back out
It's your own position whether to submit your personal information inside the sports house, same a like with sending it with centralized exchange, if you feel that the gambling house is trustworthy and already established good reputations it's not a problem providing those documents especially if you are a gambler where you mostly use the house.
KYC process have been trending nowadays.But if you only want to gamble and it happens that you were asked to do KYC,it's up to you if you will abide with it or simply find other sites that are not requiring KYC.But in some instances like withrawing a huge amount as your winnings in gambling,it's good to undergo KYC for your own security measures.
KYC has been existing for a very longtime and I think it started trending in gambling more because of some notable casino sites that are now requesting for it. In those days, it was more common with scam sites and some few unrecognized sites but these days , it seems almost asking for it one way or the other, either during registration or at withdrawal.

Although the purpose of this KYC is still not clear to me, because in my understanding, most casino sites are using Bitcoin or other smaller coins and this is supposed to make it decentralized and what cryptocurrency is all about is anonymity, so why KYC ? And who are those dropping their information with this sites, if they aren’t getting clients I believe they would have canceled it by now.
Some casinos are being regulated which in result they would need to abide with the laws that why they do ask KYC but majority of them nowadays

do only ask verification if there are various issues related to your account but besides on that they don't really ask something before you can able to play unlike on other typical casinos.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Ararbermas on July 27, 2019, 05:18:16 PM
What the heck why there's a KYC also in gambling. Is this a joke?  Lol it's very unfare to be honest what i mean. because  we all knows gambling is illegal and once goverment become interested on it for sure they can easily find us because of that stuff.  So no way much better to stay away on it for the sake of our information.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: hahay on July 27, 2019, 06:47:21 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?
So far I have never found a deposit using bitcoin to go through KYC and that is only found when making deposits using fiat money. There is no torture that you mean so far for me to bet and also make deposits using cryptocurrency and all are still in excellent fairness in this industry.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: bitgolden on July 29, 2019, 03:57:49 PM
Some casinos are being regulated which in result they would need to abide with the laws that why they do ask KYC but majority of them nowadays

do only ask verification if there are various issues related to your account but besides on that they don't really ask something before you can able to play unlike on other typical casinos.
I think this regulation process is what so many gamblers are yet to understand correctly hence the fuss about KYC in gambling section. The truth is, no gambling site likes to lose its client and if the clients are not cool with submitting their private information, they could make it optional but the regulation which is mostly done by the government makes this difficult for them to do.

For me, I do no see ant big deal with this, once you have a trusted casino site, you should understand that whatever information submitted is safe. The only  thing is to try as much as possible  to avoid scam sites. Scam sites that ask for KYC can be very dangerous and they are the reasons people find it difficult to trust other genuine sites.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: redsun114 on July 30, 2019, 03:04:30 AM
In my opinion, before you raise such a question, you must first have reliable information, why cryptocurrency users are afraid to provide passport data and why the gambling site should be provided to KYC.  Although if you return back in 2016, the popularity of cryptocurrency spread not only because of its volatility, but also because of the possibility of anonymously owning your assets.  Today, anonymity melts like ice.
The question sounds very dumb to me. Those who hate submitting the KYC form definitely have their reasons for doing that, and like you said, anonymity was truly what everyone appreciated most about cryptocurrency system. I remember vividly that it was the exact reason I got convinced to go into casino gambling.

But, what I see today is totally an opposite of it was then. Why even ask for these details at all? The questions asked, are they not intruding into a players private affair? And also, how do we trust these sites wholeheartedly to be sure the information is safe with them. All this are the reasons why most gambles never find filling KYC form interesting at.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: ethereumhunter on July 30, 2019, 02:02:05 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

I think they need ID to pass the KYC verification. But maybe they need utility bill too because, in the other business, the utility bill, proof of address will be needed. Besides that, I think there will be a picture of us holding the ID that needs to be sent to them too. I think each website will use its own verification but the point still the same, the website wants to know their customer.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: FanEagle on July 30, 2019, 02:32:53 PM
Some casinos are being regulated which in result they would need to abide with the laws that why they do ask KYC but majority of them nowadays

do only ask verification if there are various issues related to your account but besides on that they don't really ask something before you can able to play unlike on other typical casinos.
I think this regulation process is what so many gamblers are yet to understand correctly hence the fuss about KYC in gambling section. The truth is, no gambling site likes to lose its client and if the clients are not cool with submitting their private information, they could make it optional but the regulation which is mostly done by the government makes this difficult for them to do.

For me, I do no see ant big deal with this, once you have a trusted casino site, you should understand that whatever information submitted is safe. The only  thing is to try as much as possible  to avoid scam sites. Scam sites that ask for KYC can be very dangerous and they are the reasons people find it difficult to trust other genuine sites.
I think you also do not really understand it very well. This isn’t about regulation but about intruding into a player’s privacy. If you have studied crypt correctly, you will understand that many are interested in it because of its decentralized system, which supports anonymity to a very great extent. This is not an issue of trust or safety; it’s a matter of players not wanting to disclose their identity on a gambling platform. I think we should get that right.

Personally, if it gets to a point where KYC becomes compulsory on gambling sites because of the government policy, I might be left with no choice than to quit gambling completely because if I would drop my identity on any site, then definitely not on gambling platform, reasons are best known to me.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: suzanne5223 on July 30, 2019, 02:45:49 PM
In my opinion, before you raise such a question, you must first have reliable information, why cryptocurrency users are afraid to provide passport data and why the gambling site should be provided to KYC.  Although if you return back in 2016, the popularity of cryptocurrency spread not only because of its volatility, but also because of the possibility of anonymously owning your assets.  Today, anonymity melts like ice.
The question sounds very dumb to me. Those who hate submitting the KYC form definitely have their reasons for doing that, and like you said, anonymity was truly what everyone appreciated most about cryptocurrency system. I remember vividly that it was the exact reason I got convinced to go into casino gambling.

But, what I see today is totally an opposite of it was then. Why even ask for these details at all? The questions asked, are they not intruding into a players private affair? And also, how do we trust these sites wholeheartedly to be sure the information is safe with them. All this are the reasons why most gambles never find filling KYC form interesting at.
The question asked by OP seems dumb but there always a reason behind every action and in this situation only the OP knew the reason why he ask the question
With that been said, we cannot blame some gambling site which implemented the KYC system because it took them fortune with huge hours to get their license and to build the name/image of their company and it will be a pain in the butt if someone out there spoil all what they built for many year just in a seconds.
They are implementing the whole system as a precautions and every gamblers which is not cool with KYC idea could just make use of other site which require no KYC.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: harizen on July 30, 2019, 02:55:08 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

Refer to the usual requirements on a centralized exchange. It's almost just the same.

But here in crypto, I have rarely seen a sportsbook that implements KYC strictly although some included in their terms. Just be fair and you will have no problem. No torture at all.

Anyways, why asked this question? Kind of confused on "if you deposit with bitcoin". Whatever crypto used for deposits, as long as accounts have shown irregularities, then expects a question from the sportsbooks support.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: noormcs5 on July 30, 2019, 04:39:46 PM
It seems to me that in the near future we will all need to persuade many gamblers in the absence of the danger of providing KYC and that this process will be not only forced, but also the most popular when using not only gambling sites, but also when operating in a cryptocurrency market.

First we need to decide if KYC is absolutely necessary for the gambling sites or not. If it is necessary, then kyc should be made compulsory for all the gambling sites. If you make kyc mandatory in few casino sites and not in others, people will shift to the sites which do not require kyc and hence it will be a disadvantage for the sites where kyc is must.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: justdimin on July 30, 2019, 05:06:41 PM
What the heck why there's a KYC also in gambling. Is this a joke?  Lol it's very unfare to be honest what i mean. because  we all knows gambling is illegal and once goverment become interested on it for sure they can easily find us because of that stuff.  So no way much better to stay away on it for the sake of our information.
Sounds strange to you?? ol this is the new and latest trend bro. Almost all gambling sites now request for KYC. Not only is this unfair but I would say that it is terrible. A good friend of mine still has his money stuck to a site because he couldn’t meet up to the KYC process. It was not a small amount of money and according to him, he only got to know about it when it was time to withdraw .I felt really bad for him and I could just put myself in his shoes.

There are a lot of gamblers, that play from countries where gambling is declared illegal because of the ability to hide IP address and play anonymous. So what is the aim of KYC, is it to scare away this gamblers or how would they cope with this. Its absolute shit I must admit and its important for the issue to be addressed.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Oilacris on July 30, 2019, 05:29:59 PM
Some casinos are being regulated which in result they would need to abide with the laws that why they do ask KYC but majority of them nowadays

do only ask verification if there are various issues related to your account but besides on that they don't really ask something before you can able to play unlike on other typical casinos.
I think this regulation process is what so many gamblers are yet to understand correctly hence the fuss about KYC in gambling section. The truth is, no gambling site likes to lose its client and if the clients are not cool with submitting their private information, they could make it optional but the regulation which is mostly done by the government makes this difficult for them to do.

For me, I do no see ant big deal with this, once you have a trusted casino site, you should understand that whatever information submitted is safe. The only  thing is to try as much as possible  to avoid scam sites. Scam sites that ask for KYC can be very dangerous and they are the reasons people find it difficult to trust other genuine sites.
I think you also do not really understand it very well. This isn’t about regulation but about intruding into a player’s privacy. If you have studied crypt correctly, you will understand that many are interested in it because of its decentralized system, which supports anonymity to a very great extent. This is not an issue of trust or safety; it’s a matter of players not wanting to disclose their identity on a gambling platform. I think we should get that right.

Personally, if it gets to a point where KYC becomes compulsory on gambling sites because of the government policy, I might be left with no choice than to quit gambling completely because if I would drop my identity on any site, then definitely not on gambling platform, reasons are best known to me.
It wont really come to that point for sure.There might be some crypto gambling sites that do abide government policy but not all.This is the beauty of crypto gambling

this is why its booming up and been preferred by most people even those players from typical online fiat casino do consider out crypto gambling due to this anonymity and decentralization things.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: South Park on July 31, 2019, 12:34:17 AM
Do you need to do KYC in a sportsbook to make a deposit? It seems that it doesn't have to be, because most gambling sites don't have to do KYC for every person / user who plays there. But if you want to do it anyway and you must. You can ask the admin there.
Most casinos will not require KYC when you are making a deposit but if you win and you want you cash out some casinos will not let you do it until you pass KYC, this disparity in their policies is what makes some people angry about having to pass KYC, after all if the casino asked them to pass KYC before they deposited any amount of money chances are they will avoid that casino and play somewhere else but once they win they have to go through it or they will never get access to their profits.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: 2double0 on July 31, 2019, 04:17:17 AM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

If you are doing something shady like parking your coins at their website and trying to withdraw without betting, then you will be at their radar to show who you are and what are you dealing with. For that, they may also ask you for online copies of your utility bill, passport, election ID, your SSN number, tax return slip and ID, etc. They will try their best to get their hands on you if they find you to be involved in any criminal or money laundering activities.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: FanEagle on July 31, 2019, 04:32:18 PM
I am not in favor of clearing KYC with gambling houses. Still, I have done few times for the reason of getting eligible for withdraw. I am into crypto space for the reason of being anonymous but again enforcing me for revealing my identity is something which makes my reason invalid why I am here.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Spaffin on July 31, 2019, 06:51:20 PM
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: shoreno on August 01, 2019, 04:13:05 AM
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.

Kyc Is not all about money laundering but it do have lots of purpose  . kyc on a gambling/sportsbook is infact usual and okay to do , you will be shock when i tell you that even bounties and airdrops today did also require a kyc . these activities didnt need a cash or a crypto in order to get started  , so will you still complain and argue that a sportsbook/casino will ask for a kyc/pasport ?


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: freedomgo on August 01, 2019, 06:44:12 AM
you will be shock when i tell you that even bounties and airdrops today did also require a kyc . these activities didnt need a cash or a crypto in order to get started  ,

I'm not shock at all, I know this, some requires KYC, some didn't.
it's up to the particiapant whether they will comply or not because rules of the bounty still prevail.

so will you still complain and argue that a sportsbook/casino will ask for a kyc/pasport ?

However here, we are the boss, if the gambling site requires KYC and we don't like it, we don't need to complain as we can also find another gambling sites that would cater us.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Spaffin on August 01, 2019, 05:26:35 PM
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.

Kyc Is not all about money laundering but it do have lots of purpose  . kyc on a gambling/sportsbook is infact usual and okay to do , you will be shock when i tell you that even bounties and airdrops today did also require a kyc . these activities didnt need a cash or a crypto in order to get started  , so will you still complain and argue that a sportsbook/casino will ask for a kyc/pasport ?
I think that for my part there is no reason to express any dissatisfaction, because I do not see any problems that would prevent me from providing my passport data, especially since today there is a tendency that is aimed at legalizing cryptocurrency, but without control and  Without the provision of KYC, this is not possible.  Nevertheless, I believe that in some cases it is not necessary to provide passport data, especially in gambling, where cryptocurrency is used and I am guided by logic.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on August 01, 2019, 07:04:13 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

Best would be to read the ToS of the website you are using/want to use.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: darewaller on August 03, 2019, 07:32:46 PM
I think that for my part there is no reason to express any dissatisfaction, because I do not see any problems that would prevent me from providing my passport data, especially since today there is a tendency that is aimed at legalizing cryptocurrency, but without control and  Without the provision of KYC, this is not possible.  Nevertheless, I believe that in some cases it is not necessary to provide passport data, especially in gambling, where cryptocurrency is used and I am guided by logic.
I share same view with you on this and we are probably the few that have same opinion on this KYC stuff. The truth is aside the cryptocurrency reason, the major aim of KYC which is to prevent minors from gambling and also to watch the activities of fraudsters it should be enough reason to convince anyone to agree with this policy.

I feel so terrible most times I see very young kids who should be focused on their studies, spending hours on casino site simply because there is no regulation. This is one of the reasons I still prefer gambling centers. Underage are not permitted to play and this is the reason they have all diverted to online gambling.

It will be very good, if we can all support this mission and just trust that the information we supply is safe on whatever sites we gamble and the only work we have to do is ensure to play on reputable sites.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: South Park on August 06, 2019, 02:09:49 PM
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.
That is just an excuse, it is true that a small minority of people may try to clean their coins by depositing their money in a casino, gambling a little bit and then get different coins than the ones they deposit, but this is about control, governments want to know what you are doing with your money and that is why they are pressuring any business that deals with cryptocurrencies to ask for KYC, and from the point of view of some casinos this is a great excuse to not pay their customers unless they pass through KYC.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: suzanne5223 on August 06, 2019, 04:29:16 PM
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.
That is just an excuse, it is true that a small minority of people may try to clean their coins by depositing their money in a casino, gambling a little bit and then get different coins than the ones they deposit, but this is about control, governments want to know what you are doing with your money and that is why they are pressuring any business that deals with cryptocurrencies to ask for KYC, and from the point of view of some casinos this is a great excuse to not pay their customers unless they pass through KYC.
Some gambling ask for KYC for their own safety because they want someone to spoil what they have built for years cause crypto scammer and money launder try different means to achieve their goals and it doesn't take them anything to make deposit into a gambling site while they gamble a little and request for withdrawing in an altcoin to make transaction untraceable to them.
Mind you, back in the early 2016 most exchange site, ICOs project owner, etc, don't require KYC but all that changed after theft abuse cryptocurrencies and I don't think we should blame gambling site that implemented KYC either.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: redsun114 on August 06, 2019, 05:04:09 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

Best would be to read the ToS of the website you are using/want to use.
And how does reading the ToC of the site change the fact that this requirement is something that should be tagged a taboo to casino gambling. Sometimes I wish within me that all players can collectively agree on this and write against KYC policy because definitely, this is something that is not convenient for us as gamblers. How would you feel as a player, after visiting a site you would love to play games, and only to discover there is a policy of KYC in such site?

I understand there are other options of site that would or might not have this policy, but understand that leaving your choice of site can be heartbreaking and as well discouraging. I Feel it is really not important and the reason for HAVING kyc ON CASINO SITES IS NOT justified.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: stadus on August 06, 2019, 11:09:30 PM
I can not understand a bit why gambling may require passport data.  How can a gambler launder money if he sells nothing and does not buy, but spends money on bets?  In addition, how many percent sure that a gambler will win?  I think that talking about money laundering is pointless.
That is just an excuse, it is true that a small minority of people may try to clean their coins by depositing their money in a casino, gambling a little bit and then get different coins than the ones they deposit, but this is about control, governments want to know what you are doing with your money and that is why they are pressuring any business that deals with cryptocurrencies to ask for KYC, and from the point of view of some casinos this is a great excuse to not pay their customers unless they pass through KYC.
They can keep their funds in gambling sites but if they are going to launder their crypto into cash then they need to go for exchange where KYC is mandatory so people cannot launder their money into cash even if they won it in gambling sites.
How strict really is the KYC verification process of a gambling site? I don't think they do require the same requirement like a bank, so if a person would launder money, they can just use a fake documents and upload that on the site.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: ralle14 on August 07, 2019, 03:28:36 AM
And how does reading the ToC of the site change the fact that this requirement is something that should be tagged a taboo to casino gambling. Sometimes I wish within me that all players can collectively agree on this and write against KYC policy because definitely, this is something that is not convenient for us as gamblers. How would you feel as a player, after visiting a site you would love to play games, and only to discover there is a policy of KYC in such site?
While there are casinos that have KYC, many bitcoin gambling sites here still don't have KYC and those that do have KYC usually have the same providers or games on different casinos. I don't think you'll be missing out on several games since there's many alternatives to choose from.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: guoyu78 on August 08, 2019, 04:39:33 AM
There is likely going to be a time all trusted sites will abide by all general gambler protection rule and those not abiding might be scam site and maybe then, we would be left with no choice than to either comply or stop gambling like the above poster .

I have seen some very nice sites I would have loved to place my bets but once I see the KYC I just withdraw because that already stands as a barrier. There is this confidence that comes with knowing that one’s identity is hidden while playing games, it makes one even play better, filling this KYC form has a way of affecting this confidence, thereby causing great loses while playing.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: freedomgo on August 08, 2019, 05:20:16 AM
Just a gentle reminder, we have to be careful in complying with KYC in sportsbook as just lately there's a news about Binance KYC leak, and I'm just too concern as Binance is a billion dollar exchange with a strong security but these information are still stolen, how much more in a sportsbook which has less secured than Binance.

news here https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-investigating-kyc-leak-fud-as-user-selfies-allegedly-exposed


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Questat on August 08, 2019, 05:51:35 AM
Just a gentle reminder, we have to be careful in complying with KYC in sportsbook as just lately there's a news about Binance KYC leak, and I'm just too concern as Binance is a billion dollar exchange with a strong security but these information are still stolen, how much more in a sportsbook which has less secured than Binance.

news here https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-investigating-kyc-leak-fud-as-user-selfies-allegedly-exposed

This is scary, if you really put your legit information when you applied your KYC in a casino, for me, I would prefer to fake some information although I know the risk as I just want to enjoy gambling without linking my personal information, but for exchange, I have no choice but to put my information and I hope with that Binance bad news, my KYC pictures were not included.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: FanEagle on August 08, 2019, 06:56:09 AM
Some gambling ask for KYC for their own safety because they want someone to spoil what they have built for years cause crypto scammer and money launder try different means to achieve their goals and it doesn't take them anything to make deposit into a gambling site while they gamble a little and request for withdrawing in an altcoin to make transaction untraceable to them.
Mind you, back in the early 2016 most exchange site, ICOs project owner, etc, don't require KYC but all that changed after theft abuse cryptocurrencies and I don't think we should blame gambling site that implemented KYC either.
Most gambling sites are only hiding under this canopy. What safety?? Is the safety of the site not as important as that of the players, so why ask for passport?? My take remains that this isn’t really necessary and what about the very reputable sites that do not ask for KYC, don they have something to protect as well?

I have my new way of finding out those sites that ask for KYC, either at registration or those that do it at withdrawal and I avoid them as plagues because I also have a reputation to protect and cannot stand risking my personal details to a gambling site. All gamblers are not into money laundering and it is bad to use the actions of some few selected  money launders to affect the privacy of other genuine players.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: ruthwithers1980 on August 08, 2019, 07:08:34 AM
Sharing with you a thread talking about reasons why most crypto players skip casinos with KYC procedure:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136360.msg50780694#msg50780694


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: beerlover on August 08, 2019, 05:55:43 PM
Best would be to read the ToS of the website you are using/want to use.
And how does reading the ToC of the site change the fact that this requirement is something that should be tagged a taboo to casino gambling. Sometimes I wish within me that all players can collectively agree on this and write against KYC policy because definitely, this is something that is not convenient for us as gamblers. How would you feel as a player, after visiting a site you would love to play games, and only to discover there is a policy of KYC in such site?

I understand there are other options of site that would or might not have this policy, but understand that leaving your choice of site can be heartbreaking and as well discouraging. I Feel it is really not important and the reason for HAVING kyc ON CASINO SITES IS NOT justified.
Maybe a taboo to you but definitely not to everyone. There is a lot of players filling the KYC FORM ON CASINO SITES DAILY and I am one of those. Maybe you should get to understand the essence of this clearly and you will understand better that it means good to gambling community.

Do you know there are so many kids below gambling age, gambling daily on casino sites because of the privacy they enjoy? There are a lot of gamblers that are into money laundering and yet use gambling as a disguise, so the reason for this KYC is to fetch them out and put gambling industry in the purest state. This is not a bad idea if you ask me and am sure you get understand the concept better now mate.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 08, 2019, 07:25:36 PM
Just a gentle reminder, we have to be careful in complying with KYC in sportsbook as just lately there's a news about Binance KYC leak, and I'm just too concern as Binance is a billion dollar exchange with a strong security but these information are still stolen, how much more in a sportsbook which has less secured than Binance.

news here https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-investigating-kyc-leak-fud-as-user-selfies-allegedly-exposed
Leaked or solely being sold?We wouldn't know but eventually these news is alarming but as expected theres no such thing about 100% security so these leaks can possibly happen.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: SquallLeonhart on August 09, 2019, 09:14:02 AM
And how does reading the ToC of the site change the fact that this requirement is something that should be tagged a taboo to casino gambling. Sometimes I wish within me that all players can collectively agree on this and write against KYC policy because definitely, this is something that is not convenient for us as gamblers. How would you feel as a player, after visiting a site you would love to play games, and only to discover there is a policy of KYC in such site?
While there are casinos that have KYC, many bitcoin gambling sites here still don't have KYC and those that do have KYC usually have the same providers or games on different casinos. I don't think you'll be missing out on several games since there's many alternatives to choose from.
You are right, there are a lot of sites that do not ask for KYC, and I want to believe the ones not asking for are more than those that need. I visit some sites that ask for KYC and I leave to go to other sites without any kind of hurtful feelings, it’s their policy and that’s their business, after all I also have a right to choose. Thank God for alternative sites with even better games.

Let’s not make a big deal out of KYC, it’s the least problems in the gambling industry, maybe we should channel our energy to addressing why the odds are in favor of the house. This is the most pressing need at the moment because it is better to fill in KYC and win money than not filling and yet daily losing our monies on casino sites which is really more painful.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Natalim on August 09, 2019, 09:31:23 AM
Just a gentle reminder, we have to be careful in complying with KYC in sportsbook as just lately there's a news about Binance KYC leak, and I'm just too concern as Binance is a billion dollar exchange with a strong security but these information are still stolen, how much more in a sportsbook which has less secured than Binance.

news here https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-investigating-kyc-leak-fud-as-user-selfies-allegedly-exposed
Leaked or solely being sold?We wouldn't know but eventually these news is alarming but as expected theres no such thing about 100% security so these leaks can possibly happen.
To ensure you will be safe, just gamble on sites that has no KYC, and most of the reputable sites in the forum does not require a KYC and that's a good news. Bad news is, when the government will start to enforce KYC for every gambler as that will leave us no option.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: South Park on August 10, 2019, 04:10:25 PM
Just a gentle reminder, we have to be careful in complying with KYC in sportsbook as just lately there's a news about Binance KYC leak, and I'm just too concern as Binance is a billion dollar exchange with a strong security but these information are still stolen, how much more in a sportsbook which has less secured than Binance.

news here https://cointelegraph.com/news/binance-investigating-kyc-leak-fud-as-user-selfies-allegedly-exposed
And this is one problem, as if we needed more, that shows the weakness of KYC and why cryptocurrencies were created to not need it, a centralized party no matter how big or how powerful will always be vulnerable to an attack and lose information or money to hackers, why binance is still holding KYC information from its customers? In my opinion once they have verified your identity they should permanently delete your information in order to avoid this to happen.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: joshy23 on August 10, 2019, 04:37:35 PM
How is the KYC Process if you deposit with Bitcoin.

- ID
- Utility Bill

what else? Proof of Deposit, example Screenshot of your Wallet? Any other torture?

For me kyc process doesn't give benefit to the small people like me because if l have no bills payment l can't get my profit or earning because of having no kyc all people are crazy when it comes to kyc issues.
If you have that issue/concerned better not to play inside the sites who ask for KYC find site that allow you to do gamble without any requirement like this, it's annoying when you wanted to be anonymous the reason why you use crypto then all of the sudden the site will requires you to provide in order to withdraw your money.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: FanEagle on August 11, 2019, 03:14:34 PM
there are a lot of sites that do not ask for KYC, and I want to believe the ones not asking for are more than those that need. I visit some sites that ask for KYC and I leave to go to other sites without any kind of hurtful feelings, it’s their policy and that’s their business, after all I also have a right to choose. Thank God for alternative sites with even better games.

Let’s not make a big deal out of KYC, it’s the least problems in the gambling industry, maybe we should channel our energy to addressing why the odds are in favor of the house. This is the most pressing need at the moment because it is better to fill in KYC and win money than not filling and yet daily losing our monies on casino sites which is really more painful.
I think you are right bro, we are still left with options to choose from since KYC has not been made mandatory on all casino sites but its better we start preparing for when it becomes compulsory because with the look of things, so many sites are already adopting the policy for the safety of their site.

I don’t even consider it an issue, and I am preparing my mind for that time, filing KYC form would not hurt us or even affect our games, so it’s something I could easily do, but for now, since there are still sites that are KYC free, I would rather play on such sites as long as it is reputable and have my kind of games. Again, if we are sure that we are of age to free from all scam rates, then we have nothing to fear. This is just my opinion on this.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: finaleshot2016 on August 11, 2019, 07:23:40 PM
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I think you are right bro, we are still left with options to choose from since KYC has not been made mandatory on all casino sites but its better we start preparing for when it becomes compulsory because with the look of things, so many sites are already adopting the policy for the safety of their site.

I don’t even consider it an issue, and I am preparing my mind for that time, filing KYC form would not hurt us or even affect our games, so it’s something I could easily do, but for now, since there are still sites that are KYC free, I would rather play on such sites as long as it is reputable and have my kind of games. Again, if we are sure that we are of age to free from all scam rates, then we have nothing to fear. This is just my opinion on this.

As long as there are many sites that don't require KYC, we can still play in many gambling sites. Just make sure that we're ready enough to send our personal information when the time comes that all of the platforms are KYC included. I'm sure that situation will happen and most of the people will leave the community because the decentralization was being dominated by the government.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: ruthwithers1980 on September 17, 2019, 01:16:07 AM
I believe every crypto sports bettor hates KYC in casinos.

https://www.bestbitcoinslots.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/reasons-crypto-players-skip-kyc-casinos-jpg-103kb.jpg (https://www.bestbitcoinslots.com/news/4-reasons-crypto-players-skip-casinos-with-kyc/)

Another Bitcointalk thread about KYC over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136360.msg52097272#msg52097272


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: FontSeli on September 27, 2019, 07:07:23 PM
I don't see why we should use sportsbooks who demand KYC if there are enough sportsbooks who don't demand KYC. Or do they have higher multiplier?


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: iv4n on October 01, 2019, 10:09:53 AM
I don't see why we should use sportsbooks who demand KYC if there are enough sportsbooks who don't demand KYC. Or do they have higher multiplier?

Odd`s are pretty much the same everywhere, as I know. I didn`t find any huge difference with odds on soccer, I mostly bet on that, maybe for some other sports odds variate. I support your point, why would we bother with sports book that asks for KYC, when there are many good crypto betting sites where we can bet on sports without any kind of KYC.
Like OP said, it`s a torture to take a pictures of yourself, ID and yourself, just ID, last utility bill, etc... I don`t like to do that, and I`m avoiding KYC whenever I can!


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: carlfebz2 on October 01, 2019, 10:57:09 AM
I don't see why we should use sportsbooks who demand KYC if there are enough sportsbooks who don't demand KYC. Or do they have higher multiplier?

Odd`s are pretty much the same everywhere, as I know. I didn`t find any huge difference with odds on soccer, I mostly bet on that, maybe for some other sports odds variate. I support your point, why would we bother with sports book that asks for KYC, when there are many good crypto betting sites where we can bet on sports without any kind of KYC.
Like OP said, it`s a torture to take a pictures of yourself, ID and yourself, just ID, last utility bill, etc... I don`t like to do that, and I`m avoiding KYC whenever I can!
Odds might be different on values but they are close as much as possible and this is on where competition starts.They do have margin but on a very minimal
thats why we do able to see good sportsbook with good odds which always been preferred by sportsbettor.There are bookies that dont ask KYC it depends cloudbet,sportsbet,
Nitrogensports,onehash etc. KYC might be asked if you do violate up some rules of their site.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: FontSeli on October 01, 2019, 07:34:35 PM
I don't see why we should use sportsbooks who demand KYC if there are enough sportsbooks who don't demand KYC. Or do they have higher multiplier?

Odd`s are pretty much the same everywhere, as I know. I didn`t find any huge difference with odds on soccer, I mostly bet on that, maybe for some other sports odds variate. I support your point, why would we bother with sports book that asks for KYC, when there are many good crypto betting sites where we can bet on sports without any kind of KYC.
Like OP said, it`s a torture to take a pictures of yourself, ID and yourself, just ID, last utility bill, etc... I don`t like to do that, and I`m avoiding KYC whenever I can!

When I was a student I bet on football at the usual bookmakers, which were placed a lot in my city. As a rule, they are always asked to write the passport data in the ticket to receive the prize. It is clear that they need it for reporting.
But why it is necessary to network bookmakers I do not understand and do not want to provide them with their KYC data. I don't want them to sell them to anyone else.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Hippocrypto on October 01, 2019, 09:20:31 PM
I don't see why we should use sportsbooks who demand KYC if there are enough sportsbooks who don't demand KYC. Or do they have higher multiplier?

Odd`s are pretty much the same everywhere, as I know. I didn`t find any huge difference with odds on soccer, I mostly bet on that, maybe for some other sports odds variate. I support your point, why would we bother with sports book that asks for KYC, when there are many good crypto betting sites where we can bet on sports without any kind of KYC.
Like OP said, it`s a torture to take a pictures of yourself, ID and yourself, just ID, last utility bill, etc... I don`t like to do that, and I`m avoiding KYC whenever I can!

When I was a student I bet on football at the usual bookmakers, which were placed a lot in my city. As a rule, they are always asked to write the passport data in the ticket to receive the prize. It is clear that they need it for reporting.
But why it is necessary to network bookmakers I do not understand and do not want to provide them with their KYC data. I don't want them to sell them to anyone else.

This KYC thing was useless, and it seems that the people is getting exhausted with it. If this process continues to occur on all sportsbook, customers will decrease and will prefer to choose those other online gambling sites who doesn't require any personal data. Exposing you private information isn't safe for us, and possibly your personal information could possibly be exposed to illegal activities.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: sana54210 on October 02, 2019, 08:19:03 AM
I don't see why we should use sportsbooks who demand KYC if there are enough sportsbooks who don't demand KYC. Or do they have higher multiplier?
I think it is gradually becoming a norm with gambling sites to ask for KYC and I am no longer surprised at this again. You can really need to accept sporstbooks this way in very near future itself.

Well, I blame those complying and this is probably the reason it is now been more popular. But for me, filling KYC form is one thing I will never do in any casino site because it doesn't make it different from the regular fiat gambling. I hope This policy is changed because this is enough to scare gamblers away knowing how much they appreciate the privacy given to them on casino sites and if this advantage given by casino sites is taken away, it will be an open doors for gamblers to start going back to fiat since there's no difference between them any longer.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: FontSeli on October 02, 2019, 10:25:49 AM
When I was a student I bet on football at the usual bookmakers, which were placed a lot in my city. As a rule, they are always asked to write the passport data in the ticket to receive the prize. It is clear that they need it for reporting.
But why it is necessary to network bookmakers I do not understand and do not want to provide them with their KYC data. I don't want them to sell them to anyone else.

This KYC thing was useless, and it seems that the people is getting exhausted with it. If this process continues to occur on all sportsbook, customers will decrease and will prefer to choose those other online gambling sites who doesn't require any personal data. Exposing you private information isn't safe for us, and possibly your personal information could possibly be exposed to illegal activities.

That's right, it's like with casino sites, when after the introduction of KYC the number of users has decreased dramatically. Always in the case of other equality people will choose anonymity so as not to risk their documents.



I don't see why we should use sportsbooks who demand KYC if there are enough sportsbooks who don't demand KYC. Or do they have higher multiplier?
I think it is gradually becoming a norm with gambling sites to ask for KYC and I am no longer surprised at this again. You can really need to accept sporstbooks this way in very near future itself.

Well, I blame those complying and this is probably the reason it is now been more popular. But for me, filling KYC form is one thing I will never do in any casino site because it doesn't make it different from the regular fiat gambling. I hope This policy is changed because this is enough to scare gamblers away knowing how much they appreciate the privacy given to them on casino sites and if this advantage given by casino sites is taken away, it will be an open doors for gamblers to start going back to fiat since there's no difference between them any longer.

I don't want to put up with KYC and accept it as the norm. The crypto market was designed to allow people to make payments while remaining anonymous.
The exchanges was the first who broke this rule and introduced the KYC, now followed by the rest of the organization. I absolutely do not like this trend for the introduction of KYC.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: hahay on October 02, 2019, 07:56:21 PM
Torture. :D Even so far I have never used a sportsbook that requires users to send personal identities, not sure if gambling like that is still in high demand or is used by crypto gamblers so far, because there are still many big and famous gambling sites that don't apply KYC.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: RivAngE on October 03, 2019, 07:11:55 AM
It's a gamble when you're providing your personal info to a gambling site!
You may get your information exploited or they might be a trustworthy website which is operating in accordance to the law and they're respecting their customers.

Going with a non-KYC website might be safer for low-volumes but can such websites be trusted bigger amounts?!


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Question123 on October 03, 2019, 11:10:40 AM
You have a choice if you choose them or not if you think that their requirements is a lot you can leave and don't play to their gambling sites. Because there is more gambling site that do not need any information or verification of the player only the email and password and needed and they are legit. Sometimes those gambling site who need a lot of requirements is possible to scam and use your Identity to other bad activities.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: MonsterV on October 03, 2019, 12:39:54 PM
Torture. :D Even so far I have never used a sportsbook that requires users to send personal identities, not sure if gambling like that is still in high demand or is used by crypto gamblers so far, because there are still many big and famous gambling sites that don't apply KYC.

Yeah, I think sportsbooks that require players to do KYC can't be trusted. What you are saying is true that a large gambling site does not require KYC, what will happen if a new gambling site requires KYC users , it must watch out for.

Sometimes those gambling site who need a lot of requirements is possible to scam and use your Identity to other bad activities.

Now that's true, even though there are no such sites in this section yet, but I'm sure as time goes by, the scammers will move from crowdfunding into gambling. But I'm sure, the gambling section has smart, active users so they are more aware and perceptive.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: spadormie on October 03, 2019, 07:53:36 PM
I don't really take KYC in gambling sites but it is needed sometimes if you win big(in which I haven't experienced since I didn't get the chance to have a big prize). But refer to the old sites such as bitsler, bitvest they don't ask KYC. And in stake and primedice since they are of the same owner, they are asking KYC if you win big.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: pixie85 on October 03, 2019, 08:20:51 PM
You have a choice if you choose them or not if you think that their requirements is a lot you can leave and don't play to their gambling sites. Because there is more gambling site that do not need any information or verification of the player only the email and password and needed and they are legit. Sometimes those gambling site who need a lot of requirements is possible to scam and use your Identity to other bad activities.

For now you have a choice so choose wisely. One day KYC may become mandatory everywhere and you won't even be able to have an email without submitting your ID.

As long as there are sites where you can gamble without KYC always choose them. Your personal data is valuable and can be sold on the black market or leaked and then used to produce a fake ID for someone. Don't do KYC unless you really have to like in a bank. Choose exchanges and other sites that don't need to see your ID promote anonymity!


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on October 03, 2019, 08:41:19 PM
Gambling comes with licenses and restrictions. KYC is ine of them, everybody knows that.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: dunfida on October 03, 2019, 09:22:57 PM
I don't really take KYC in gambling sites but it is needed sometimes if you win big(in which I haven't experienced since I didn't get the chance to have a big prize). But refer to the old sites such as bitsler, bitvest they don't ask KYC. And in stake and primedice since they are of the same owner, they are asking KYC if you win big.
Are they asking out KYC when you win big into those sites you've mentioned? You make me laugh dude!
They dont ask out any documentation or further verification if you win big to those sites and majority of old gamblers do knows that
specially to those who have been playing for years unless if you done something shady then there would be a possibility of verification.
Heavy KYC requirement does only being implied strictly with fiat based casinos/bookies.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Natalim on October 03, 2019, 09:27:19 PM
Torture. :D Even so far I have never used a sportsbook that requires users to send personal identities, not sure if gambling like that is still in high demand or is used by crypto gamblers so far, because there are still many big and famous gambling sites that don't apply KYC.
Of course, gambling sites in the crypto space now are giving the best service as most of them are not license, when they are license they will have to follow the restrictions by the regulators and that we will be affected, and one of the the most important requirements they need to implement is the KYC which for us not worth since most of us are not gambling thousands of dollars or more.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: bering on October 04, 2019, 02:18:22 AM
I don't really take KYC in gambling sites but it is needed sometimes if you win big(in which I haven't experienced since I didn't get the chance to have a big prize). But refer to the old sites such as bitsler, bitvest they don't ask KYC. And in stake and primedice since they are of the same owner, they are asking KYC if you win big.
KYC if people win big is exception which mean if there is suspicious things from players activities during gambling on particular sites then usually they will asking players KYC to proof the players didn't cheat and usually it is written in FAQ sites but we're at here talking about KYC when people want to made an accounts and play at gambling sites and most people want to avoid it because they including me want to stay anonymous while gambling


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: steveabrahams on October 04, 2019, 03:47:45 AM
Most of crypto sportsbook don't need KYC process but it will needed IF your account looks suspicious by the site such different IP, location, multiple accounts or winning big (for some sites). If it needed, usually are your ID, Utility Bill, bank statement, take a photo you with your ID and else.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: stadus on October 04, 2019, 12:26:15 PM
Most of crypto sportsbook don't need KYC process but it will needed IF your account looks suspicious by the site such different IP, location, multiple accounts or winning big (for some sites). If it needed, usually are your ID, Utility Bill, bank statement, take a photo you with your ID and else.
We don't want to be in that position if we really like to gamble anonymously.

Different IPs seems not suspicious I guess and it's not a violation of the rules in any gambling sites.
I have been gambling for years and I have different IPs since that's norms of our ISP, every time I turn on the router, it gives me a new IP.
I think as long as you always follow the rules, you will never be investigated and will be required to pass through the requirements, like the KYC.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Golftech on October 04, 2019, 01:35:30 PM
Most of crypto sportsbook don't need KYC process but it will needed IF your account looks suspicious by the site such different IP, location, multiple accounts or winning big (for some sites). If it needed, usually are your ID, Utility Bill, bank statement, take a photo you with your ID and else.
Gambling sites have their own reasons why to ask for KYC, and like what you have said, those reasons from the list mostly happened especially when your account have suspicious movements inside the house. You need to process this procedure as it will give more access to that specific gambling house after passing the required identification.
For those who are just playing little and there's no problem with the account, they can enjoy using the house without any issues.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: sana54210 on October 04, 2019, 07:21:31 PM
You have a choice if you choose them or not if you think that their requirements is a lot you can leave and don't play to their gambling sites. Because there is more gambling site that do not need any information or verification of the player only the email and password and needed and they are legit. Sometimes those gambling site who need a lot of requirements is possible to scam and use your Identity to other bad activities.
I think the area of choice is what is been ignored by many and it's really disheartening. Some players are so obsessed to some sites that they would not mind filling the KYC form at their detriment. There are a lot of gambling sites and if I am not mistaking the ones asking for KYC are by far lesser than the sites that do not ask for KYC, so let's be fair it's not compulsory.

So, if you aren't pleased with exposing your personal details, there is an option of gambling on a site that does not ask for this. For me, I have seen sites that I love to play games asking for KYC and for the love of the game and the love of the site, I would take the risk but not everyone can do this. We all know that gambling on KYC sites is a great risk.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: Ailmand on October 05, 2019, 02:14:31 AM
Haven't tried betting sites with KYC requirement. There are a lot of betting sites that don't require this. Gamblers avoid hassle when gambling, so they avoid gambli g sites with KYC.

The most common procedure is to send a selfie with you holding a paper, a certain word and current date and a picture of valid ID as proof.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: steveabrahams on October 05, 2019, 05:13:28 AM
Most of crypto sportsbook don't need KYC process but it will needed IF your account looks suspicious by the site such different IP, location, multiple accounts or winning big (for some sites). If it needed, usually are your ID, Utility Bill, bank statement, take a photo you with your ID and else.
Gambling sites have their own reasons why to ask for KYC, and like what you have said, those reasons from the list mostly happened especially when your account have suspicious movements inside the house. You need to process this procedure as it will give more access to that specific gambling house after passing the required identification.
For those who are just playing little and there's no problem with the account, they can enjoy using the house without any issues.
True, small gambler usually can gamble without problem at all, easy and fast withdrawal but when it comes to big bettors the house usually check it first like if you withdrawal 5 bitcoins, of course the site will check the account first. Actually i heard so many times a case where that once you won big and withdraw, some sites will ask you to verify KYC.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: bitgolden on October 10, 2019, 11:56:43 AM
It's a gamble when you're providing your personal info to a gambling site!
You may get your information exploited or they might be a trustworthy website which is operating in accordance to the law and they're respecting their customers.

Going with a non-KYC website might be safer for low-volumes but can such websites be trusted bigger amounts?!
I am very sure anyone gambling non-KYC would be aware of the risk, even though the reason why some sites ask for kyc is justified but not everyone would always avoid taking the risk. There are a lot of big old existing trusted casino sites that do not ask for KYC and to think that most of them are actually more reputable than some of the ones asking for kyc makes me wonder what people see in those kyc sites.

I don't see any reason why a gambler would want to risk playing on such sites knowing the risk involved in exposing one’s personal details on a gambling site. In this note, I have never played games on sites demanding for Kyc and as a matter of fact, I am okay with the sites I am using, not running after too many sites.


Title: Re: KYC Process (Sportsbook)
Post by: FontSeli on October 11, 2019, 10:17:22 PM
I don't really take KYC in gambling sites but it is needed sometimes if you win big(in which I haven't experienced since I didn't get the chance to have a big prize). But refer to the old sites such as bitsler, bitvest they don't ask KYC. And in stake and primedice since they are of the same owner, they are asking KYC if you win big.

In General, it is unfair to demand to take the KYC in case of receiving a big win. Users should know that they can safely play, place bets and be sure that in any case they do not need to pass an identity check. The passage of the KYC is fraught with the fact that you will be stored personal information on these sites and it can be associated with wallets from which you send money and receive winnings.