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Title: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 25, 2019, 07:16:59 PM
id 571307
did not copy other people's messages! did not send spam!
I do not think the right decision to use a bot for ban accounts!
you force people to create new accounts on the forum! create a new topic to unlock .. why then I am asked to write to an email?
Creating new accounts - the purpose of your ban? statistics of new registrations?
Old users create new accounts and continue to use the forum.
creates a bunch of topics with a list of banned users. what for?
perhaps in some topics I asked for nodes for the connection - is this considered plagiarism?
ps
after the ban, each user creates at least 2 new accounts! one to appeal. second for new use! your ban system is more like forum promotion...(((


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: Veleor on July 25, 2019, 08:34:59 PM
id 571307
did not copy other people's messages! did not send spam! <...>

Maybe this copied message was the reason of your ban.

Copy:
I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news)

Original:
Hi guys)) I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news) :) ;)



33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed. ~
This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 25, 2019, 08:48:40 PM
id 571307
did not copy other people's messages! did not send spam! <...>

Maybe this copied message was the reason of your ban.

Copy:
I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news)

Original:
Hi guys)) I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news) :) ;)



33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed. ~
This includes both copying parts or the entirety of other users' posts or threads and copying content from external sources (e.g. other websites) and passing it as your own.
I do not copy other people's messages !!!
Very funny .. on this basis, you can ban the entire forum!
You can start with the moderators when they indicate the reason for the ban!
it's more like the forum lacks new users.

your - was the reason of your ban. - Can it also be the cause of a ban?
if this is the reason for the ban. then this is a mistake! Many users use online translators. your message only proves that most users were banned erroneously!
https://imgur.com/74spD1c - 2 different phrases.



Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: bL4nkcode on July 25, 2019, 11:24:51 PM
Quote from: tedwvatdmpul link=topic=5168886.msg51951788#msg51951788
I do not copy other people's messages !!!
So you still deny that you didn't copy those posts quoted by veleor?

Quote from: tedwvatdmpul link=topic=5168886.msg51951788#msg51951788
Many users use online translators. your message only proves that most users were banned erroneously!
Its not online translators work to copy-paste post from different users from the forum you know.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 25, 2019, 11:44:56 PM
Quote from: tedwvatdmpul link=topic=5168886.msg51951788#msg51951788
I do not copy other people's messages !!!
So you still deny that you didn't copy those posts quoted by veleor?

Quote from: tedwvatdmpul link=topic=5168886.msg51951788#msg51951788
Many users use online translators. your message only proves that most users were banned erroneously!
Its not translators work to copy post from different users ylon the forum you know.
I do not copy other people's messages! I answered above
There are standard answers. which are used frequently. You will also find messages where I ask coins nodes. for each individual coin should i use phrases that nobody used?
if the translator is also used for this, the phrases can often be the same. example on the screen above.
incomplete knowledge of the language can lead to repetitive answers. if the message was an instruction or guide. then yes - this can be considered plagiarism. every day you hear the same expressions from different people.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: rhomelmabini on July 26, 2019, 12:01:34 AM
I do not copy other people's messages! I answered above
There are standard answers. which are used frequently. You will also find messages where I ask coins nodes. for each individual coin should i use phrases that nobody used?
if the translator is also used for this, the phrases can often be the same. example on the screen above.
Then why the heaven it is exactly the same even the spaces on the copied/plagiarized sentences? You can deny as much as you want but the evidence is still there. You did appeal that's good but I have doubt that on your case that it will be lifted even to temp ban. Good luck!


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 26, 2019, 12:12:47 AM
I do not copy other people's messages! I answered above
There are standard answers. which are used frequently. You will also find messages where I ask coins nodes. for each individual coin should i use phrases that nobody used?
if the translator is also used for this, the phrases can often be the same. example on the screen above.
Then why the heaven it is exactly the same even the spaces on the copied/plagiarized sentences? You can deny as much as you want but the evidence is still there. You did appeal that's good but I have doubt that on your case that it will be lifted even to temp ban. Good luck!
https://imgur.com/a/Nhe5Pjw
just try using a translator. and unnecessary questions will disappear!
PS
delete or close the topic. Nobody responds to email. And topics are used only for additional posts on the forum. thank!


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: GreatArkansas on July 26, 2019, 12:53:44 AM
https://imgur.com/a/Nhe5Pjw
just try using a translator. and unnecessary questions will disappear!
~
What's wrong of using a translator? Copy-paste is far different from using a translator.
Just prove that you did not break some rules of the forum, such as plagiarism. That's it.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 26, 2019, 01:22:07 AM
https://imgur.com/a/Nhe5Pjw
just try using a translator. and unnecessary questions will disappear!
~
What's wrong of using a translator? Copy-paste is far different from using a translator.
Just prove that you did not break some rules of the forum, such as plagiarism. That's it.
Prove that through online translators 2 different phrases can look the same?
I do not get the point of it. if plagiarism is considered standard phrases! even now the translation of phrases from the first screenshot is changing
https://imgur.com/wR5AuxE
I did not say that using a translator is bad. I just said that he can translate different messages into standard phrases.
prove that translators often use standard sets - try using a translator.
he also puts spaces where you missed them. and often your phrases will be monotonous.
you need post for bounty signature?) welcome) ;D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Translate
translator uses - templates
so many users were simply banned for using the translator. if plagiarism were considered - articles, guides, and so on .. searching for identical expressions in short phrases means that all people are bots and plagiarists
if the user id 1064969 is banned. then I ask him to unban. he cannot be considered plagiarism. his message was first! and proving how Google Translator works is a question for Google!



Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: Veleor on July 26, 2019, 02:08:27 AM
I do not copy other people's messages !!!
Very funny .. on this basis, you can ban the entire forum!
You can start with the moderators when they indicate the reason for the ban!
it's more like the forum lacks new users.

your - was the reason of your ban. - Can it also be the cause of a ban?
if this is the reason for the ban. then this is a mistake! Many users use online translators. your message only proves that most users were banned erroneously!
https://imgur.com/74spD1c - 2 different phrases.

Do you often begin your sentences with a space, like in the message below?

' I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news)

The reason, must be, that the current sentence along with a space was copied from another member at the same topic.

Hi guys)) I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news) :) ;)



<...> if the user id 1064969 is banned. then I ask him to unban. <...>
SektorPiii (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1064969) is not banned https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=SektorPiii


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 26, 2019, 02:24:33 AM
I do not copy other people's messages !!!
Very funny .. on this basis, you can ban the entire forum!
You can start with the moderators when they indicate the reason for the ban!
it's more like the forum lacks new users.

your - was the reason of your ban. - Can it also be the cause of a ban?
if this is the reason for the ban. then this is a mistake! Many users use online translators. your message only proves that most users were banned erroneously!
https://imgur.com/74spD1c - 2 different phrases.

Do you often begin your sentences with a space, like in the message below?

' I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news)

The reason, must be, that the current sentence along with a space was copied from another member at the same topic.

Hi guys)) I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news) :) ;)



<...> if the user id 1064969 is banned. then I ask him to unban. <...>
SektorPiii (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1064969) is not banned https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=SektorPiii
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5082112.msg48544330#msg48544330
does that prove something? Using an online translator is a copy-in-box. space may be you need to switch tabs

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1787705.msg17826311#msg17826311 - two spaces!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2064833.msg22632772#msg22632772 (
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2169401.msg23797924#msg23797924
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2325381.msg23776634#msg23776634

The next question will probably be - what is the plagiarism when asked for working nodes for coins?)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3185891.msg33014386#msg33014386 -a lot of extra spaces even in your favorite language)
It turns out I love spaces) I did not notice before)  ;D


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: nc50lc on July 26, 2019, 02:52:13 AM
To be fair, there are indeed short phrases that can produce the same translated results.
Now if you can give us the exact two different pre-translated sentences that will result in your and SektorPiii's posts, mods may believe your claim.
(Whisper: Translate it vice-versa and/or change the prepositions: to, on , in)

I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news)
Hi guys)) I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news) :) ;)
Also, how come you've end up using a closing parenthesis without even using an open parenthesis on the beginning of your post just like SektorPii did?......
Quantum Entanglement?


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 26, 2019, 03:02:33 AM
To be fair, there are indeed short phrases that can produce the same translated results.
Now if you can give us the exact two different pre-translated sentences that will result in your and SektorPiii's posts, mods may believe your claim.
(Whisper: Translate it vice-versa and/or change the prepositions: to, on , in)

I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news)
Hi guys)) I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news) :) ;)
Also, how come you've end up using a closing parenthesis without even using an open parenthesis on the beginning of your post just like SektorPii did?......
Quantum Entanglement?
It was 2017! Will we ask Google to roll back? I can not answer you exactly how the phrase looked!
emoticons, so too many of them at the end of my posts
https://imgur.com/a/At9CeDQ
i like smile) I don't like emoji .. is that a problem too?


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: Veleor on July 26, 2019, 03:54:50 AM
The next question will probably be - what is the plagiarism when asked for working nodes for coins?)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3185891.msg33014386#msg33014386 -a lot of extra spaces even in your favorite language)
The issue is not the spaces, but the words between them.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 26, 2019, 04:10:36 AM
The next question will probably be - what is the plagiarism when asked for working nodes for coins?)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3185891.msg33014386#msg33014386 -a lot of extra spaces even in your favorite language)
The issue is not the spaces, but the words between them.
The question was whether there are messages starting with spaces. Yes, there are many such messages .. not always these messages through an online translator


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: Veleor on July 26, 2019, 04:33:22 AM
The question was whether there are messages starting with spaces. Yes, there are many such messages .. not always these messages through an online translator

Do you want to say that it is a complete coincidence that your "translated standard phrase" was published at the same topic, where the comment with exactly the same words and punctuation has been posted half a day before your message?

' I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news)

Hi guys)) I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news) :) ;)


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 26, 2019, 04:42:00 AM
Yes, it is quite. For the correct translation words are selected. otherwise the sentence loses its meaning. so simple messages may match.
https://imgur.com/mnBg7ph
The above screen, as the translator corrects punctuation, also the translator changes the location of words. So the chance of coincidence is big !!!

we're talking about machine translation. Yes, many phrases can simply be the same. words so de can be changed and as a result the phrase in English you receive one. punctuation is corrected as automatically.translators have templates.

if it was about instructions or guide. I would agree with you. but this is a short message. you often repeat the same phrases in a day. if you let them through machine translation, they will look the same.
the possibility that two people could say the same phrase with the same words, you also exclude? Do you never repeat? never speak in other words?


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: bob123 on July 26, 2019, 08:56:44 AM
Oh come on..

This is such an obvious case of plagiarism.


Hi guys)) I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news) :) ;)

' I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news)

No translator will give you a space at the beginning and a closing bracket at the end..
Just admit it and move on.

And the fact that you earned 11 merits only, won't help you either in getting your (deserved) ban lifted.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 26, 2019, 12:03:13 PM
I already answered about spaces at the beginning of a sentence) they come across often. there are links above
will each user ask the same question?)
it looks funny .. topic for moderators. but each user tries to repeat the questions. for which there is already an answer. is it not plagiarism?


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 26, 2019, 12:31:03 PM
user0000001, do not waste time and nerves
If you think that you have been treated unfairly, then get in line.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144410.0
I read your recent posts and snaps to the conclusion that it is easier for you to use this advice

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152436.msg51404602#msg51404602

thanks.. I do not have the habit of copying posts. I can rather be blocked for flooding. but on the forum I tried to summarize the essence
Veleor - a cкoлькo нaйдeнo дyблиpyющиxcя пocтoв ?


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: CucakRowo on July 26, 2019, 01:29:40 PM
-snip-
Very funny .. on this basis, you can ban the entire forum!
You can start with the moderators when they indicate the reason for the ban!
it's more like the forum lacks new users.
Main point of a sentence / article can be represented differently, and written through writing various sentences.
Similarity of writing sentences/words is something that rarely happens.

your - was the reason of your ban. - Can it also be the cause of a ban?
if this is the reason for the ban. then this is a mistake! Many users use online translators. your message only proves that most users were banned erroneously!
https://imgur.com/74spD1c - 2 different phrases.
You can check in this forum. The answers written in every thread/post are essentially same. The difference is the style of writing. Writing activities is a manifestation of brain thinking. And as you know, every people will have different brains (thought). This difference produces differences in sentence format.
So, your claim that all users in this forum can be banned is absolutely incorrect. Why? Because everyone has a different writing format.
Except for some sentences that express sympathy or hatred (sentences related to emotional statements). Such :
- I am sorry to hear that
- I feel you bro
- Hey, you have my sympathy. Keep spirit!!!
- FUCK you off blatant douchebag!!!!  :-X


Maybe this copied message was the reason of your ban.
Copy:
I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news)
Original:
Hi guys)) I can not say much yet about the project, I hope your project will be successful, I will follow the news) :) ;)
Now lets talk about your case.
As I explained above, every people will have different brains (thought) and so on..
I don't have to explain it anymore right? Hopefully you can understand what i meant.


It was 2017! Will we ask Google to roll back? I can not answer you exactly how the phrase looked!
-snip-
i know how it feels bro. Sometimes life can be so annoying, sucks and fuck.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: mainconcept on July 26, 2019, 01:31:52 PM
... thanks.. I do not have the habit of copying posts. ...

But copy/pasting from other websites...

Your post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1266597.msg17850831#msg17850831
Quote
February 14, 2017, 04:42:13 PM
Quote
I congratulate you on your birthday!
A lot of people can with me say
That you are a very nice a great friend
Who is always ready to understand!
I wish you, too, such a faithful as you friend.
I wish to love stories have a happy end!
I wish to healthy and cheerful was your child
And to you this year fate smiled!

Happy birthday!

Original: https://znanija.com/task/8702749
Quote
Divinka 18.11.2014
Quote
I congratulate you on your birthday!
A lot of people can with me say
That you are a very nice a great friend
Who is always ready to understand!
I wish you, too, such a faithful as you friend.
I wish to love stories have a happy end!
I wish to healthy and cheerful was your child
And to you this year fate smiled!
~~~

To make it clear: 0% chance for you to get your account back.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 26, 2019, 06:27:09 PM
... thanks.. I do not have the habit of copying posts. ...

But copy/pasting from other websites...

Your post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1266597.msg17850831#msg17850831
Quote
February 14, 2017, 04:42:13 PM
Quote
I congratulate you on your birthday!
A lot of people can with me say
That you are a very nice a great friend
Who is always ready to understand!
I wish you, too, such a faithful as you friend.
I wish to love stories have a happy end!
I wish to healthy and cheerful was your child
And to you this year fate smiled!

Happy birthday!

Original: https://znanija.com/task/8702749
Quote
Divinka 18.11.2014
Quote
I congratulate you on your birthday!
A lot of people can with me say
That you are a very nice a great friend
Who is always ready to understand!
I wish you, too, such a faithful as you friend.
I wish to love stories have a happy end!
I wish to healthy and cheerful was your child
And to you this year fate smiled!
~~~

To make it clear: 0% chance for you to get your account back.

verse from the school program! used for birthday greetings. Often! Do you also have the information copied from the sites in the messages .. - merit and ban?


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: rosezionjohn on July 26, 2019, 06:57:43 PM
I cannot see you winning your appeal here. You can try your best to argue about translators but the closing parenthesis at the end of the sentence strongly suggests that you copy-pasted.


Title: Re: [UNBAN APPEAL] Account - user0000001
Post by: tedwvatdmpul on July 26, 2019, 07:54:51 PM
I cannot see you winning your appeal here. You can try your best to argue about translators but the closing parenthesis at the end of the sentence strongly suggests that you copy-pasted.
it looks like an appeal?) more like a forum promotion. and pumping accounts for merit. This crown must be for moderators. and do not arrange from the forum spam trash!
ask repeated questions and get merit.