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Title: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: rph on November 13, 2011, 04:21:19 AM
This thread has been superseded by the product comparison table on BitcoinFPGA (http://bitcoinfpga.com/)
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Right now there are three:

FPGA development board "Icarus" for mining (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51371)
X6500 Custom FPGA Miner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40058.220)
ZTEX USB-FPGA Module 1.15x: 190 MH/s FPGA Board now on stock (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49180.0)

I'll be keeping this thread up-to-date as new products launch. By "launch" I mean
fully built/tested/working, in stock, and available for sale to the general public with
immediate shipment. Preferably with 1 or more positive reviews here on the forum.

The list is sorted from highest to lowest MH/$, in qty 1. That seemed like the
most useful ordering method for most people.

History:
2011-12-20: Added Icarus
2011-12-12: Added X6500
2011-11-13: Added ztex

-rph


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: nmat on November 13, 2011, 04:25:43 AM
Good idea. Your link appears to be broken though.


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: rph on November 13, 2011, 04:26:13 AM
Good idea. Your link appears to be broken though.

Whoops! Fixed.

-rph


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on November 13, 2011, 04:30:26 AM
Hopefully that list grows with time.  As for people paying for unseen, untested, unverified products from an unknown company well ...

I recall a saying about a fool and his coins.


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: ngzhang on November 13, 2011, 05:23:44 AM
ANGRY rph ;D


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: thirdlight on November 13, 2011, 09:22:26 AM
Nice idea. How about including the date added, so we can see the pace of development?


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: Turbor on November 13, 2011, 02:38:46 PM
ZTEX is a great guy to deal with. Can't wait to test his product.

Edit: Name removed  ;)


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: sadpandatech on November 13, 2011, 03:18:12 PM
ZTEX (The Man) is a great guy to deal with. Can't wait to test his product.
 Just want to point out, he does not like to have his name included here on the forums even thogh it's in his contact info on the website. ;p

edit; cheers, m8


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: nmat on December 02, 2011, 07:18:42 PM
What about transforming this into a list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASICs/FPGAs + possible upcoming ASICs/FPGAs? I am just suggesting it because if I want to buy a board, I might want to know about the possibility of getting a much better deal two weeks from now. Essentially, it would be a more complete buy guide with proper warnings for untested/unconfirmed new material.


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: DannyM on December 12, 2011, 09:51:39 PM
I got my X6500 from fpgamining.com a few days ago and finally got around to getting it running.
Its nice and quiet, not too hot, over 250 MH/s under 32 bit linux.


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: fizzisist on December 13, 2011, 02:09:12 AM
I got my X6500 from fpgamining.com a few days ago and finally got around to getting it running.
Its nice and quiet, not too hot, over 250 MH/s under 32 bit linux.

Awesome! Thanks for posting DannyM!

Can we get it added to your list, rph? :)


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: rph on December 13, 2011, 03:59:55 AM
I got my X6500 from fpgamining.com a few days ago and finally got around to getting it running.
Its nice and quiet, not too hot, over 250 MH/s under 32 bit linux.

Awesome, thanks for the report! Added to the first post.

-rph


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: neptop on December 13, 2011, 04:49:52 PM
What about the Wiki (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#FPGA_Devices)?


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: sadpandatech on December 14, 2011, 04:13:26 AM
How come NG's is not updated here yet? =)


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: ngzhang on December 14, 2011, 04:54:34 AM
How come NG's is not updated here yet? =)

NOT shipping  :-[


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: sadpandatech on December 14, 2011, 05:02:30 AM
How come NG's is not updated here yet? =)

NOT shipping  :-[

  Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products    ;D  'Shipping' as meaning you have sent them. It is a qualifier to show you had something to ship. mail speed is not a factor in that imho.

  And you had one local pick up and he is up and running.  I'm fairly confident your Icarus is qualifying for this list, m8. Though I admire your humility.

  Cheers,
    Derek


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: fizzisist on December 14, 2011, 10:01:24 AM
What about the Wiki (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#FPGA_Devices)?

Speaking of that, does anyone else think it's unfair that ztex's MH/$ in that table is based on the 25 unit price?


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: server on December 14, 2011, 11:22:02 AM
What about the Wiki (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#FPGA_Devices)?

Speaking of that, does anyone else think it's unfair that ztex's MH/$ in that table is based on the 25 unit price?

Yes.

Icarus is also not on that list.


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on December 14, 2011, 03:58:42 PM
What about the Wiki (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#FPGA_Devices)?

Speaking of that, does anyone else think it's unfair that ztex's MH/$ in that table is based on the 25 unit price?

Yes it is unnecessary and misleading.  Price should be based on 1 unit and then optionally indicate "lower prices available in volume" or have another entry like "25 card cluster" w/ total cost and MH per $ stats.

Also that entire section could use a rework.  I would separate out dedicated miners from all the experimental boards and put number of FPGA per board in a separate column.  Since it is a wiki if nobody else changes it I will make some changes tonight.


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: shad on December 16, 2011, 01:04:43 PM
so my X6500 is at the post-office and i have to pay 88,19€ taxes (zoll)
so finally i am a 412,36€ for pre-order,x6500-board,shipping, tax(zoll)

i always looked at the ztex-board when it came out, but i had the pre-order for the X6500 already paid
ztex-board(1.15x) would cost me 379.61€ including taxes without porto

so theres not much difference in the price if you live in Austria (or the EU) if you by only one board, as the wiki says X6500 makes 266Mhs/sec and 1.15x makes 200Mhs/sec, but i think both will make some performance updates by software, and the X6500 has two spartan6 (150), so i think the X6500 has more space for performance-tuning?

this info is for people in the EU, to make it easier to compare

so my brain says me i should buy an other X6500, but my heart says i should buy a ztex 1.15x to compare the two,
but my bank says: "not enough money" ;)


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: rph on December 17, 2011, 05:30:04 PM
I'm waiting for someone to receive, and confirm price, performance, and if possible, power consumption for Icarus.
Maybe that has happened already and I missed it? I've been really busy the last few days

-rph


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: sadpandatech on December 17, 2011, 06:06:07 PM
I'm waiting for someone to receive, and confirm price, performance, and if possible, power consumption for Icarus.
Maybe that has happened already and I missed it? I've been really busy the last few days

-rph

http://www.openmobilefree.net/?p=1215
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51371.msg643733#msg643733


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: nmat on December 19, 2011, 10:13:02 PM
I'm waiting for someone to receive, and confirm price, performance, and if possible, power consumption for Icarus.
Maybe that has happened already and I missed it? I've been really busy the last few days

-rph


The first user review in this forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51371.msg655146#msg655146


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: rph on December 20, 2011, 06:11:38 PM
Added Icarus. Lots of HW options now, it looks like 2012 will be the year of FPGA mining  ;D
It is really cool to watch this technology take off successfully, from its humble beginnings in June/July.
Back then we were at like 50MH/s on 6s150!

-rph


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: wndrbr3d on December 20, 2011, 08:01:46 PM
What about the Wiki (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison#FPGA_Devices)?

Speaking of that, does anyone else think it's unfair that ztex's MH/$ in that table is based on the 25 unit price?

Yes it is unnecessary and misleading.  Price should be based on 1 unit and then optionally indicate "lower prices available in volume" or have another entry like "25 card cluster" w/ total cost and MH per $ stats.

Also that entire section could use a rework.  I would separate out dedicated miners from all the experimental boards and put number of FPGA per board in a separate column.  Since it is a wiki if nobody else changes it I will make some changes tonight.

Updated the Wiki with the correct pricing information. Completely agree as ALL unit prices on the page are single unit cost. We don't list processor prices by bulk, nor should we list FPGA's :)


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: sadpandatech on December 20, 2011, 08:36:48 PM
Added Icarus. Lots of HW options now, it looks like 2012 will be the year of FPGA mining  ;D
It is really cool to watch this technology take off successfully, from its humble beginnings in June/July.
Back then we were at like 50MH/s on 6s150!

-rph


  I agree on the second sentiment. It is definetly awesome to watch it grow. Hopefully we see some Gen 2 Fpga soonish.  I smell asic creeping up on them in 2012. Currently a long standing member of the community here is working on one. Dev time estimate is 6 months. Power use estimate is 10w/GH. Retail cost estimate is ~.25/MH.  I will leave it up to them if they wanna divulge who they are or more details, though I have been given permission to mention them. I cannot atest to the accuracy of my information after our few brief conversations. So I feel it best if they present it 'fully' if they so choose.

  Not to sound like a tree hugging hippy, but I think I am more excited by the idea of expending a lot less energy to maintain the network hash rate than of any other aspect.

  Cheers,
   Derek


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: nmat on December 20, 2011, 08:43:08 PM
  I agree on the second sentiment. It is definetly awesome to watch it grow. Hopefully we see some Gen 2 Fpga soonish.  I smell asic creeping up on them in 2012. Currently a long standing member of the community here is working on one. Dev time estimate is 6 months. Power use estimate is 10w/GH. Retail cost estimate is ~.25/MH.  I will leave it up to them if they wanna divulge who they are or more details, though I have been given permission to mention them. I cannot atest to the accuracy of my information after our few brief conversations. So I feel it best if they present it 'fully' if they so choose.

  Not to sound like a tree hugging hippy, but I think I am more excited by the idea of expending a lot less energy to maintain the network hash rate than of any other aspect.

  Cheers,
   Derek

The only company I know of is largecoin (http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/782/5). Anyway, let's wait and see...


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: sadpandatech on December 20, 2011, 08:46:29 PM
 I agree on the second sentiment. It is definetly awesome to watch it grow. Hopefully we see some Gen 2 Fpga soonish.  I smell asic creeping up on them in 2012. Currently a long standing member of the community here is working on one. Dev time estimate is 6 months. Power use estimate is 10w/GH. Retail cost estimate is ~.25/MH.  I will leave it up to them if they wanna divulge who they are or more details, though I have been given permission to mention them. I cannot atest to the accuracy of my information after our few brief conversations. So I feel it best if they present it 'fully' if they so choose.

  Not to sound like a tree hugging hippy, but I think I am more excited by the idea of expending a lot less energy to maintain the network hash rate than of any other aspect.

  Cheers,
   Derek

The only company I know of is largecoin (http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/a/782/5). Anyway, let's wait and see...

  I had actually forgotten all about that one. I wonder how his work is going.? The one I mention, unless they have a partnership that was not spoken about is a completly seperate project.

  I agree, time will tell. Even if both parties are serious about development, there are a lot of cost and technilogical hurdles for them to cross before we have anything solid.


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: rph on December 23, 2011, 05:07:55 AM
Maybe largecoin is behind BFL?

/ducks

-rph


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: rph on January 09, 2012, 04:46:12 AM
This thread has been superseded by the product comparison table on BitcoinFPGA (http://bitcoinfpga.com/)

-rph


Title: Re: Complete list of Built/Tested/Shipping ASIC/FPGA Miner Products
Post by: Turbor on January 09, 2012, 05:40:21 AM
Since the ztex boards are clocked at 200 and 208 MHz the hashrate is 200 MH/s +