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BTC dominance is going to break 70% point. Almost all alts (not from top 10) dead. We will never be reach via shitcoins?

Dominance level is not an important factor to consider.

You will never reach bullish trend if you are holding a shit coin.

But not all the altcoins will die due to the dominance of bitcoin increases,we can see the dominance will fall back if the price of bitcoin increases further.

Crypto have taught me never to say never, this space is very unpredictable, you may find out the the so called bullish trend for altcoins will come later on after you have made this statement. Now eth is around $210, which may suddenly jump above $400 within few weeks while a lot of persons are bearish on it. Just trade carefully is the word, I have made one of such losses in my trade with such affirmation about being sure of my entry position in a particular coin and suddenly it drops 12% afterwards while I was certain of upward trend before entering.

This depends on what you call an altcoin season
Because each and every altcoin has a Bull session where there’s x2 or x100

Key into your investment and pick up the profits as the bearish market show
Don’t wait for an altcoin bull

bitcoin dominance is still strong at this time, if bitcoin touches $ 25,000 then the alt season will start soon. alt season for me it took 1 year to skyrocket.

Its pointless to wait for altcoin season for huge profits,my advice is to take out your profit any time you see fit because altcoin season might still take longer than many expected,invest wisely and choose projects with reasonable use cases,we cant predict the future but we have to stay positive and be ready

It will happen if people start to believe that it is not going to happen, and it is not going to happen if people believe it is going to happen soon.
contradictory, the manipulator does not want you to take a huge profit from them but they want to make a huge profit from you. as long as you can afford to lose it all, just hold it.
there will be a time for an alt to shine again, I believe it is going to happen because we are still far away from regulation.

you may still be REACH via shitcoins if for some reason BTC dominance hit the all time high and the price of 1 satoshi be more than a dollar each. when this happen you can celebrate sausage party every day with all the hookers in town. its not impossible to happen mcaffee and his gang even predicted btc to be $1M each. if lucky to be alive i'd snort all that is offered to me.

Having a closer look at the dominance graph over time, there has been multiple dips for Bitcoin with the lowest point being around 35%. Since it is known that we are almost approaching the 21 million exhaustion, there will certainly come a time where more and more altcoins will enter the scene and certainly give Bitcoin a good run for its money in terms of dominance.

I strongly believe that altcoins season will definitely happene because I remembered during the 2018 bear market, a lot of people gave up hope on bitcoin saying that bitcoin is dead and never going up again. I know altcoins will go up again. All we need is to be patient

Seeing the dominance of bitcoin increase would have caused panic in the minds of some people, most especially newbies in the crypto space.
Even if the dominance of bitcoin goes beyond 80%, some new altcoins will still pump, let alone the good old altcoins. Therefore, there is nothing to fear.

I've been seeing so many postulations about altcoin season.  Generally in crypto market nobody can predict 100% correctly. TA or FA can't give answers to when altcoin season will come or if it will come or not. I believe we've been patient through the bear market way back, now let's also be patient as bitcoin takes the lead by dominating the market, soon it will be time for altcoins.

As far as I see, BTC will rule for next years. No question about it. But 70% is questionable for long term. Other coins like ETH will contribute too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5-P9v3F8w

As much as a Bitcoin maximalist I am, I can't say there won't another shitcoin bull run in the future.

There will probably be another but it will start, when you least expect it.

I remember LTC was $3-5 for months and stayed there. ETH was $9. Doge was 1/10 of what it is now. (maybe less can't remember the exact price)

Most shitcoins went back to those before pump prices btw. (like BSD) Some bigger ones like ETH, LTC and XMR are resisting but they are also so close to be being purged to 0. (not literally)

Like I said, they'll become almost worthless before they make the next pump. But It will be the hardest decision for you. The question is: "When?"

Might be right now, might be when BTC hits %90+ dominance, might be never. (I find it unlikely and I am a BTC maximalist saying that.)

Shitcoins will be so worthless nobody will want them. That's when you need to get some with the money you are willing to risk. Definitely not enter with big amounts. If you hit the Jackpot in a year, gz. If not, at least you can say that you tried.

It is a bit too abusolute. Bitcoin is sure the most dominant one, while still possibly some good alts rise. You can say no alts can challenge BTC, but not Altseason will not happen. Tbh it is sure harder than 2 years ago, when Ripple almost took the number 1 in market.

The projects I like now are Raven, MultiVac, Mithril, ZooomEx, ebakus, Drep. These are some did great in ICO and IEO and with as well a good algorithm/ideas/tech

Don't say that man if alt bull run never comes I will be rekt so hard that it would be beyond recoverable lol but IMO alt will come for sure if not this year then the next year.

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Altseason will happen and it's probably going to be a huge one, Only some coins will survive though and move up, Rest will just die off. It's better to stick with alts that are doing tremendous work.

People are still waiting for the momentum from altcoin, if there will be a whale who pumped altcoin and that will never happen. The main problem altcoin is lack of demand and majority of whales have converted their altcoins to the bitcoin.
This is the real problem faced by altcoin.
The possibility for altcoin to get the bull trend when there will be FOMO.

that is not dominance, bitcoin dominance has always been nearly 100% because nobody ever uses altcoins. that number shows the number of altcoins in circulation in comparison to number of bitcoin in circulation. these are totals multiplied by total prices versus bitcoin alone.

so whenever there is a ton of new altcoins being created, that number goes down. and when those coins die and disappear that number goes back up.

in a way it is showing the pump and dump cycle of the altcoin market. and it happens every 2 years approximately. and it will be repeated like it has repeated at least 3 times before. this is not the first time, it is only YOUR first time seeing it!

Since the beginning of 2016 Bitcoin has reached the highest market dominance with several virtual currencies falling in BTC. #coinmarketcap.
So I think at this time, it looks like the altcoin market will enter a key consolidation period that will end in a new season for altcoin on 2020. So there is still and surely hope for Altcoin

Altcoinseason is going to take place when BTC dominance will fall. Right now, there is no chances for altcoins to grow, because of this extremely high dominance. But it is only the matter of time until it drops.

It will come. Bitcoin dominance was at his maximum at 70 percent. It can't do a lot better. It was a pump of Bitcoin because of the fear of missing the pump of Bitcoin to 20000 USD. But that won't happen because the pump was made with the current altcoins mostly. If you look at his dominances, it was 35 percent in January. A fair dominance should be between 35 and 50 percents. Altcoins have the same are better functionality than Bitcoin, there is no reason that Bitcoin eat the whole market at that would mean that cryptocurrencies don't have any value, except for speculators. If you believe in the technology, it is the altcoins who is making more progress now. Bitcoin is the first generation, that's why altcoins won't die.
I would add: do you prefer buying MS-DOS or the actual Window 10? It is like this. Bitcoin vs a new altcoin. If it is not and everyone only invest in Bitcoin, it means the end of cryptocurrencies/blockchains as it means that no one is interested to develop it more.

I believe that history will repeat itself, and altseason will come when bitcoin stabilizes and reach ATH. I disagree with the statement that altcoin will die, we know that crypto space is open to all possibilities and altcoin completes it.

but that doesn't apply to altcoin. don't equate altcoin shit with bitcoin which has a large community. that's why I'm sure altcoin will never be able to return to ATH like yesterday.

but it seems difficult, and it takes a lot of money to be able to pump altcoin right now that's why I think whales has more to pump bitcoin.

The first lesson I learnt in crypto is that anything can happen. Just be prepared for what comes next and know when to act. BTC dominance is not the only factor that influences the price of the altcoins.

Of course anything can happen. Like altseason may come probably by 2030. Possibilities are just that high when the governments are trying to stop developments like of the Libra. If they are up to kill every thing that will keep pace to the adoption, the longer it will take for an altcoin to seen with dominance of 1%

If we couldn't see altcoins will pump, will it still have to hold our coins? It for sure many we're be losing it tight and let them go.

May altcoins never have it this year but the most important is potential altcoins could still stand from the struggles. We've never lost our hopes cause we trust this market since before.

You are wrong. There's plenty of time. It doesn't matter if bitcoin dominance is still high. This is crypto. Prices can change in an instant. If dominant bitcoin is still high, why don't you buy bitcoin ?. That will make you profit.

I would agree with your statement that price can change in an instant its either it will go up or down. BTC's dominance can be a good sign or not that actually depends on the situation especially you have to consider the trends of market and news so as a trader or long term holder you have to decide which altcoin will give you profit in the future. It is a matter of making a wise decision.

Most likely as i believe that most of the Altcoin holders are moving to Bitcoin making most of the Altcoins to become  useless. Hopefully there will be a turning point in Altcoins market soon as i keep on holding my Altcoin assets.

It might happen, but don't know when. Because at this time, almost all altcoin prices are down. And this is only 70% dominant in bitcoin. If it's more than this, the price of altcoin will certainly go down more than this. Switch all your altcoins to bitcoin. Forget altcoin for now. Because we will not benefit through altcoin.

Be patient. The dominance of bitcoin is strengthening now but I don't think altcoin with products will die. Maybe altseason is still long but with the current altcoin condition, it becomes an opportunity to buy altcoin at a cheap price

Nothing is impossible with crypto. Once Bitcoin's price rises, we can see altcoins riding along the wave. Though there are milestones that projects achieve which helps them increase their value, altcoins (https://www.contentos.io/?utm_source=lx) that also makes strategic moves to acquire a huge user base which can boost the coin's value up can also be a thing. Crypto's volatility is what makes it exciting and scary at the same time.

BTC dominating does not mean that alt will die when the price of btc is too high and the dominance of btc will decrease. I think altcoin moment will happen again but not all altcoins, I have an investor opinion now that it is not as crazy as when btc prices touched the highest price.  they will definitely choose some alt if the price of bitcoin goes up again

indeed when BTC dominates it always has a bad effect on all altc. Btc will leave altc far below it, to be honest when it does occur altc under the top 10 will disappear and be oppressed by the price of BTC. but not all altc will be oppressed too, I'm sure only altc that is clear with a stable price is able to survive in conditions like now.

Alt season will come for sure.
As long there ist a opportunity for the whales to make Money, they will use this chance.
The alt season will come, when most of the people capitulate.
I think that alts with a $ market are the first who will raise because the big players sell there bitcoins for fiat and then they need a $ market to buy altcoins.

Altcoin which is not in the top 10, I don't say die...
However, I dare say that is not consistent. Bitcoin dominance always happens, not just now.

Nobody knows the answer to this question.  If someone knew it, he/she would have been already a millionaire.

However, price increases for good altcoins will come for sure, but don't expect for sh*t coins to raise, too, as in 2017.

I believe that the market has a repetitive cycle. so there is hope that the time for altcoin will happen again. like bitcoin, altcoin also still has hopes of rising. so I believe this.

Isn't new to think about the situation, it is the market demand and scamming issues happen around in crypto makes this change. We never like this to happen but we are not the control of the market and we have nothing to do but to accept the thing it has.
We never put some ends in altcoins and most likely we can't be a hopeless cause we still have time to wait and see the sunshine again.

Well bitcoin dominance is still big and personally I don't see an altcoins seasons happening soon or in 2019. Just gather the coins that needs your attention and also start to participate into bounties as now is a perfect time to do it. We have 1 year untill bitcoin halv and after that we can start thinking on altseason.

Do you have the crystal ball?Howd you know that there would be no altcoin season? We might break Btc 70% dominance but doesn't mean

that the entire market wouldn't shift upside down.Anything can happen or without assurance therefore we cant make any conclusions yet.

You don't need to say it here , just have fun and do away with them while those who believe its gonna come will buy in to it and see it blow in some months time which I also believe it will .

I think altcoin season will happen, we are currently trapped by the increase in the price of BTC, and always hope that the increase in price of BTC will increase altcoin, in my opinion it's wrong, BTC will not affect altcoin prices much, which affects the price of altcoin more is the platform of the altcoin, for example, if there are coins using the ETH platform then an increase in eth will increase the altcoin price.

Totally agree. There are really good altcoin that make solutions BTC never can do. LN yes or no

Starting from today, you will see domination of bitcoin falls dramatically, it means in the same period, altcoin domination will rise, and their season has been activated hours ago. Now, let's hop on the altcoin boats, and tighten your seat-belts, then enjoy altcoin rides. At least, I think we can enjoy altcoin ride in the next 2 months.

altcoin season will be , but when it starts exactly no one knows , as the dominance of bitcoin is growing and all the money from altcoins go to the cue ball , you need to follow the schedule and when breaking the trend to buy.

Is this a joke or how you predict this. I dont like BTC but this is strange....

Some alts had go high with bitcoin like HC or XZC. Maybe more, just these i checked. Check the charts. So you need to be vigilant in market with alts these days to make profit.

I think the answer will be no, without the real life usage altcoin will only being used as speculation and got no real value, and with a lot of new coin coming out, it weaken the alt coin value even worse, in the end investors only toying with alt and invest in btc, so don't get your hopes up

Firstly, I would like to clarify that altcoin season will still happen but the upcoming bitcoin halving will make every crypto investors/holders to swap most of their crypto to bitcoin cause everyone will want to have a share of the free cakes which the halving will bring. Mind you, we shouldn't you the current market to judge the altcoin market cause the current dump in price affects almost all coins in the market.

indeed that's what happened, and we already know that. investors trade altcoin and save more bitcoin. No need to be surprised, because Altcoin has better price movements with changes and updates that occur all the time.

i doubt it bro. because for me there's lots of coins there that got way too much value in terms of real use case but are currently being overlooked by people. When lots of projects dies because of not so strong fundamentals, those projects that i mentioned that got way too much value in  terms of real world use case will rise.

some platforms do indeed clearly mention if they move in the real world. the use of new altcoin in the real world is definitely happening. We have seen several agriculture, health and banking projects that are already active. but it's true you say, most of them fail to develop when they don't get market and investment support.

Shitcoins for that and shitcoins so that their price level is always around zero. Altcoins have a chance to grow, and many of them have a chance to begin to grow in price in the next few months. It remains only to prepare money for the purchase.

Cryptocurrency is dicey and risky. That's what I always say so you need to play your cards well. I believe there will definitely be altcoins season and for that no one knows. You need to invest in potential coins and not shitcoins to  make profits when the season comes

Altcoins since today are safe assets for investors. They will also help investors to enrich their balance, in fiats or in bitcoin, whatsoever, they are safe choices to invest. Bitcoin will have to witness its very long-lasting corrections, and won't come back soon. Now, it is start day of altcoin season. They all turned into green colors yesterday, and today they received strong confirmations from bitcoin falls.

Altcoins season is not needed as many are worthless coins which you’re not even supposed to be holding in your portfolio, what you should do is hodl good alts like Ethereum, Litecoins etc. These altcoins have given higher returns over a period of time and I believe they’ll continue to do so.

Altseason has not started yet and I am sure it will happen in the future so take advantage of altcoin which has been down for long-term investment, I have deposited my money into the exchange to buy altcoin at the right moment and when altseason starts, Bumppp

In altcoin seasons, there are only good altcoins will recover. It is not a season for all altcoins, and shit altcoins, scam coins will be excluded from the altcoin season. Ethereum, Litecoin, DASH, Ripple, Stellar, Dogecoin, etc. good altcoins will rise in altcoin season. In contrast, shit altcoins will be stucked in mud, maybe forever, and they might end at zero value, in satoshis, or in fiats.

certainly come, but it is unclear when it will come. and maybe just when we are saturated with the altcoin crypto market it might just happen. now we only see a few pumps from altcoin, and not as a whole the altcoin market moves.

You can't be sure that an altcoin season will never happen again, the same thing when Bitcoin was only 4,000 USD, Now isn't Bitcoin over X2 of that. Altcoin season too will come, it is only a matter of when and how soon.

It is true that the current Crypto market conditions we are still unable to conclude but on the scale of development of Bitcoin prices usually cause other Altcoins to go down and vice versa Altcoin will rise, it can be concluded that digital currency trading is full of competition so that alternative USD-based currencies will be superior and strong.

What are you talking about, buddy? Almost all altcoins are dead? How did it come to your mind? Why are you having a panic?

It will happen only when dominance of bitcoin will drop or stabilize. The same position was in February 2017 when dominance of bitcoin 86% but it dropped to 39% in june 2017.

I believe dominance will eventually decline, the question is when and what will be the reason for that decline?

BTC decreasing and stabilizing could be a reason, but it'd also require whales to start gobbling up alts too. The latter may require some sort of big news item (friendly regulation, new alt taking off, etc). But as someone stated earlier in this thread, typically these sorts of things happen when you least expect it.

BTC dominance is entirely different from Altcoins struggling. You can not be to sure that altcoin season will never come by, there will definitely be a time when the positive trend will be more about altcoins than BTC.

Look at this chart:

https://hex.s-ul.eu/wDTjvAQb

Most of the altcoins even on top 50 are suffering with red sign. I doubt altcoin season would happen in short span of time if there are no good news happened in the future to fix this price. It would be the same case as we have experienced in 2018, I don't know.

BTC always be a dominance when compared with altcoin. But i think you cannt say altseason never happens cause in fact there are still many people get daily profit and be rich when trading with altcoin

2017's altcoin season was due to the ICO boom, which saw a huge amount of market resources thrown at Bitcoin and the industry in general.

Nowadays, people know that the great majority of ICOs will fail, and are in fact vaporware, so they are more cautious with their money.

I don't think we will see a 2017-esque altcoin boom again. Hopefully the trash cryptos get culled.

Let's focus our minds on bitcoin, the king of Crypto surpassing the all time high of 2017 again before we think about these altcoinstalks. They have nothing good for us because btc can do all. Crypto is basically for payment online and there's no need for many coins

Actually BTC can do hardly anything, it's slow, scalability isn't great, and is way too volatile to use as an actual currency outside of 3rd world countries with hyper-inflation. I say this as a BTC holder by the way. It's fine as a store of value, or digital gold, as it's been referred to recently. But it's not a situation where BTC is better than most alts from a technical standpoint, quite the opposite.

This cannot be true, if the asset is greatly underestimated one day it is sure to redeem, create the appropriate news background, raise the price and sell it - it always was.

If you hold mostly with that portfolio it's hard to recover for you whether there is or there is no altcoin season.
But as btc dominance increases, most alts will be affected.

Bitcoin dominance always goes up and down and the whole altcoin market goes as per this fluctuation. When BTC dominance go up altcoin dump and when BTC dominance starts dropping than altcoin start their upward journey and it is a continuos process.

Nobody can predict this market exactly what altcoins will do in coming months certainly altcoins are not doing good at the moment but it does not mean that they can not rise back. Green days of altcoins will come again. Good project will not die they will definitely survive in this market whether btc dominance grows more.

Decadent moods are natural for a time when prices do not rise for a long time. This changes rapidly when the altcoin season begins. Many altcoins will have to survive another year or more before growth begins. First, the new BTC ATH, then investors will begin to diversify and will buy altcoins. But in a year ... how much alts will survive?

Alt season as a phrase gets used way too often...are we going to see a 2017 bull run across the entire alt market, I dont think we will.  Will there be a nice bull run for some major alts out there, I think for sure.  I just think as the market matures the less likely a mass surge in prices for every coin will happen.  My 2 cents

Everything can happen. In 2017, nobody believed that Bitcoin would reach 10 thousand and it managed to jump so high, that in some countries, people were ready to buy BTC even more than for 21 thousand.
Later, when it fell critically and we were in a bloodbath for a long time, a rare person had a hope that a market would recover. The so-called altcoin season will come, but no one knows when.

I think that's true, altseason will nevere happen. Now everyone can see how alts price slumped down, no movement and it happened almost 80% of the existing alts.

If no movement happens with almost 80% of all altcoins than take your money and invest in the rest 20% and you will be rich one day. Even with your way of thinking altcoin season is coming, but just for 20% of existing coins. If we know that there are more than 3,000 altcoins and tokens, 20% is more than 600 projects that can be successful in the long run. That`s good I think, anyone here can find a couple of good coins and just wait for the season to come, and it will come, it will not happen tomorrow, maybe not this year, but it will come one day.

Why you said it will never happened? If btc gain so much some will step forward on alts to increase as well these are the projects that are doing really good inspite of a bad market situation. Obviously some will died out those who can caught up aith the trading and loses interest. They will go bankrupt and clusre as well but that ia the thing, market ia just like a survival jungle as well if you dont do good then you died. Im pretty sure the time will come for alts, even its not this year on the following years to come it will.

I believe the altcoin season will happen, and we need to stay calm and enjoy the ride. I think we almost see the season will coming because the altcoin price has started to increase in this year, so we have a chance to see it will happen in this year or the next year. If the altcoin season happens in the next year, we need to prepare by buying more altcoin, especially for the top 10 or more so we have a chance to get a huge profit again.

It will happen, we just need to be patient to wait for it. Just look at the whole picture in general, because there are so much great things that are going to see the light in 2019, so crypto does not have another road, besides to raise in price.

I cannot agree that altcoins are shitcoins. Besides top 10 altcoins there are some potential that still in quiet attack slowly but effective. It is not all about shitcoins but potential coins. Imagine if the potential coins are just the top 10, rumors and rampant warning of DON'T INVEST ALTCOINS BESIDES TOP 10 should be in every section of this forum.

I don't know when it will come, I think its difficult to make at least major altcoin will reach all time high price together. But, its always can find another ways to get profit in every condition market.

I believe altseason may come, not now or soon but time will tell in the future, it will surely come as top coins in the market will have a comeback for dominance in the future market. It is never said that it will never happen, because theres possibility in cryptocurrency to be famous again and dominates many altcoins in the future.

I fully agreed with you,the next altcoin season is going to wash off so many useless coins and tokens from crypto space unlike the last altcoin season that makes so many useless altcoins surge up in value,this is why i keep passing on the message to altcoin holders to dump off their shitcoins and invest in prmosing altcoins

I believe there will be new cycles of valorization of altcoins, as it always has, see 2017/2018.

do not be discouraged altcoin will definitely be back victorious again as it did in 2017, but it requires a process and at least the price of bitcoin must be expensive first to be able to increase demand and of course altcoin prices will also go up and the altseason can begin.

Alts are gaining dominance little by little as against Btc dominance of over 70%. Alts seasons wi happen though most alts won't have a season as they have been badly ffected by the bear market.

The data is not lying actually it's not 70% anymore there's a study that it is now 90% according to this article
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-dominance-is-actually-above-90-new-research-suggests

The article ended with this post
that's probably true and investors and traders should concentrate more on Bitcoin because this is a long term investment that will definitely be going to yield profit.

In my opinion, there are some altcoins that still has the potential to share the market equally with Bitcoin in the future, I would love to see coins with good concept and innovation to stay on.

With this fact, people should stop discussing altcoins replacing Bitcoin.

That might happen to those good and solid projects who really have a good back up business to support the cause of the coin, it's hard to assess since we are not seeing any good movements yet but for everyone who's optimistic and willing to take the risk of waiting, the chance to see the good outcome will be there,  Alts season will happen after many investors showed back their interest and begin to buy in from each supported good coins that they've have,
don't be bothered it's your call if ever you are willing to invest and wait if you'll going to have a good benefits.

it is possible and even though it is a bad fact for Altcoin, it is also an advantage for Altcoin which can survive because when many coins die then it means that many of their competitors are lost and of course it can make the price of altcoin able soared because the market was only filled with a few coins

the most important thing is that you must buy the right coins and those coins which are die were not coins from your portfolio.

I agree. It will bring an end to all the rubbish shitcoins currently circulating the crypto space with no meaningful working projects backing them. Alts season may not happen this year but it will definitely happen and may not be as loud as the 2017 edition

Alt season or not, some altcoins still experience uptrend. Recently WAN for example announced their mobile staking and there was a massive soar in price. Also ICX and ETC moved with a fair margin. In essence, do more research and hold few altcoins that you think will do well and hope for the best not putting all hopes on "alt season".

Altseason happened for a limited time actually. But according to the Bitcoin growth, Altcoin hasn't given enough profits yet. Most of the Altcoins did not raise enough. I believe if Bitcoin hit 15K or higher amount, reputed altcoins price will be high too, not just high ranked alt!

New coins still continue to appear and they also have a chance to grow in price. Perhaps the season of altcoins will return to us, but with new coins.

In the crypto community, everything is possible, you can't say Alt season will never come ,it might be delayed but for sure we will see Alt season again. I believe this is an opportunity for People to hold more coins.

Are you guys only considering investing and waiting strategy? Or there are any other on your mind you can share?

Evening there mate. Sorry, I don't fully get what you mean by other strategies. Can you elaborate, please?

Well, by other strategies I mostly mean, let's say, trading or mining.

There are many strategies. Buy and hold, earn and hold, buy and trade, accumulate as much and keep accumulating while holding everything. Mining is the most inefficient if you don't have a big setup. You will waste a lot of time switching between coins that are pumping and downloading all the latest software.

Oh, I see. Of course, these 2 are also rather interesting, but from my point of view, both require higher experience

Indeed. Absolutely no doubt in here. And by the way, have you ever tried mining on your own?

Yeah, I have. And that's why I am saying that it requires more experience. Kinda more things to evaluate - equipment, costs etc

Oh yes, definitely must be so. And talking about you - how have you been choosing the equipment? Any advice you can give?

I was choosing on Globemining com - they have wide range of devices for any scale of budget. So I recommend you to have a look

Oh, I see, will have a look, thanks a lot for sharing! And are there any particular devices to pay attention to?

This is a FUD I guess, because it still seems clear that alts have gotten a good increase so far and this is just an assumption when there is a bear market that basically the whole market turns red which makes a panic occur. There is still a lot of hope in the crypto market and of course the alts season will occur and this is only a matter of time that requires us to be patient and confident, because we can still enter in 2020 which may be a big change which will certainly be more positive for the growth of the crypto market and alts season.

It is not still advisable to wait for any alt season, because your expectation. While such time is yet to come, some altcoins are still making progress. Sometimes, when I see their graphical trends, it gives me hope that some of them will still do better, irrespective of the market status.

So far the altcoin movement has not been significant. The upward trend only occurs on a few tokens or coins, when bitcoin goes down, most come down deeper. The dominance of bitcoin is really getting stronger. I don't know, whether history in 2017 can be repeated. Maybe halving bitcoin can give new life in market movements and spring returns for all altcoins. Continue to monitor the market and observe the news developments, not to miss important moments.

Altseason that might come won't be like what happened in 2017. Investors are now starting to select and select good altcoin for the long term and I think there are only a few altcoins that are worthy and have products as long-term investments.

It will still happen on certain altcoins.  But don't ever have high hopes on those coins that are more than 1000% down from their all time high because the only reason they pump is thanks to the whales. And whales are smart and they will never go back to them after they made their profit so when altseason happens they will only focus on brand new coins which are the IEOs. Those old coins not even all of us traders try to pump them will ever make a significant gain.

Holding shitcoin is really not recomended for me. But I think we cannot say that altseason will never happen because bitcoin already dominate the crypto world? I'm not agree with that because all we know that every crypto price will move quickly so there is a big possibility that their position in price chart will change soon.

i believe that it is on the way! september will be nice month for good alts (not shitcoin)

This cannot be predicted. Crypto can make a surprise even if it's only 1 day. For now, even though the price of bitcoin is down, the dominant bitcoin is still high. But calm down, there's still next month. Hopefully, the altcoin season will occur.

altcoin will always its own moment, although today bitcoin still dominate in market.soon or later bitcoin dominance will decrease alot while all good news for bitcoin already released in market.we need to be patient to see this moment come and our altcoin value will growing again like 2017 did.

cryptocurrency market has two type coins.bitcoin and other coins that often called as altcoin.so in my opinion we have two market cycle.the first was bitcoin cycle , where this coin has strong dominance in crypto market.investors prefer to hold bitcoin than altcoin .and second cycle called as altcoin season , where bitcoin price smoothly drop and investors start buying altcoin to accumulate their profits in bitcoin.so don't worry about when altcoin season will happen.

I agree with you, there will come a time when altcoin will rise quickly after bitcoin, because investors are indeed looking for profits, this must be the game

Do you think that smart money would invest into assets that do not have future? Of course that not, but rhey are manipulating the market to cumulate more cryptocurrencies while price is low.

Only the useful alts will survive and bounce back sooner or later. I think the alt bloodbath is not yet over. More projects will disappear and be forgotten but those with quality management and quality use case will remain.

alt season only ever happens after massive bitcoin rally this current push was not a bitcoin bull run but people over sold and ended up creating a mini bull run
the bull run is yet to come and we will break ath that is for sure after that we will see alts moon

there is still no significant movement of altcoin in the market, it is difficult to predict whether altcoin can return to an uptrend like in 2017, with the high dominance of bitcoin indeed affecting most altcoins and causing many altcoins to die, most altcoin investors certainly hope that the altcoin season will happen soon

for altseason see the current conditions I'm sure will only be there in 2017 why? because I think the chance for crypto to be back in popularity is very small, moreover there are many cases that make this field increasingly unpopular, especially scams because there have been a lot of scam news since altseason and until now there is always in my opinion, so don't expect too much maybe.

Stop looking at charts all the time and speculating why it went down the way it did or what will pull it upwards. Just focus on the innovation and technology being developed by the right stuff of developers. In future, that undiscovered dev maybe someday become a big name in crypto, along with his blockchain creation.

While you think so, others earn on those altcoins that you think are dead.
If you consider coins only as a long-term investment, then I'm inclined to partially agree with you. But if we consider all the coins from the point of view of constant trading, then I don't have such conclusions as yours. Almost every day you can find one or more coins on which you can earn during the day.
The market is alive, the coins are not dead, so trade.

We will never be "reach" via shitcoins, that's true :)
We will use some strong altcoins and get rich fast when the altcoins season comes :)
Definitely most of us will lose their time, trying to gamble with lowcap altcoins.

I do not agree, I think altseason will come but  not all altcoins will experience it. This is because most investors now cares for projects with use case thus believing that there will be profit by holding. This is the type of altcoins that will meet altseason not those only filled with hype and nothing else.  Therefore if you want to take a good chance towards the future, hold good altcoins.

Why such negative feedback? For sure, altcoin season will come and this will happens in that time when we expect it less of whenever. So we should keep in our minds that whale's are smarter than many of us.