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Title: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: btcforpizza on August 10, 2019, 02:04:27 AM
Hello

I bet a lot of sports on a bunch of sites.

In the last few weeks. I have been betting a fortunejack and I am pretty good at betting win slightly more then i bet.

Now i was making some bets . I won and then out of no where a slip was added to the bet . Yes at fortune jack you can add a bet to a slip thats already been made.

I thought there was no way i did it talked to fortune jack and thought maybe it was a accident of mine. I lost 285 mbtc here

So i bet some more and today. I had another winner 48mbtc. I was happy with it waiting for game to be over as all ahead and not long to go

https://imgur.com/a/j2H8dwS


Boom a losing  live bet is added to my slip and boom less the 10min later i lose the whole bet because it a 8th inning losing bet slip

you see in the screenshot how 3 of the bets the winning ones where added before games stared the winning ones.

And then you can see the new live one is added 8TH inning and i lose boom


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on August 10, 2019, 05:34:56 AM
Your screenshot doesn't prove anything. Can you provide more evidence of their 'wrongdoings'?


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: heavycar on August 10, 2019, 12:15:57 PM
I like how the two people quick to defend fortunejack are being paid by fortunejack.

O_O


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on August 10, 2019, 01:07:52 PM
I like how the two people quick to defend fortunejack are being paid by fortunejack.

O_O

I am not defending anyone. I'm asking for factual evidence to back up his scam accusation.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: btcforpizza on August 10, 2019, 06:24:08 PM
yeah anyone that is a fortune jack sig camp member should not talk.


and thats plenty of evidence my favorite part is your rant about fairness.

did you even read it dont talk about things if you just going to rant about stuff that has no point, your either a shill or stupid.

and its plenty evidence. I had a winning bet slip i was winning the whole time and would have if not magically a losing slip was added live in the 8th inning of a game.


and yes you can see it was added because you can see the plus mark you can also see its a losing bets and other 3 where done before and not live if you going to share you feelings use logic and actually  think


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TwitchySeal on August 10, 2019, 07:18:18 PM
I agree that people being paid by Fortune Jack to post on this forum should have a little shame and avoid posting in threads like this unless they actually have something valuable to add to the conversation.

I've had plenty of issues with FJ in the past and battling their army of shills makes getting the truth out there much more difficult.

In this case, however, I don't see how this is evidence that they are adding losing bets to your parlays.

This is all the evidence you have posted, right?
https://i.imgur.com/IY0VW0y.png
Would the slip look any different if you added it yourself?


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on August 10, 2019, 07:21:23 PM
Again, the signature I wear has nothing to do with the posts I make. Defending or shilling FJ is not in the campaign requirements.

The screenshot OP posted shows no fraud or scamming. 


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TwitchySeal on August 10, 2019, 07:23:48 PM
Again, the signature I wear has nothing to do with the posts I make. Defending or shilling FJ is not in the campaign requirements.

The screenshot OP posted shows no fraud or scamming. 

Fair enough.  What are your thoughts on this FJ campaign members post?

A casino is where people use their money to try their luck. This luck can end up both in a big win and an equally bad loss. The OP did just that and the outcome was a wrong one. There is nothing "wrong" here.

If you believe casinos are like charity houses to offer "free cash" to every player out there then you are mistaken. So called "VIP member" LMFAO

On the other hand, those who are playing on the site have agreed to the TOS and moreover all the rolls are public and verifiable. All these make this thread a bullshit one and the OP a crybaby.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on August 10, 2019, 07:29:35 PM
Again, the signature I wear has nothing to do with the posts I make. Defending or shilling FJ is not in the campaign requirements.

The screenshot OP posted shows no fraud or scamming. 

Fair enough.  What are your thoughts on this FJ campaign members post?

A casino is where people use their money to try their luck. This luck can end up both in a big win and an equally bad loss. The OP did just that and the outcome was a wrong one. There is nothing "wrong" here.

If you believe casinos are like charity houses to offer "free cash" to every player out there then you are mistaken. So called "VIP member" LMFAO

On the other hand, those who are playing on the site have agreed to the TOS and moreover all the rolls are public and verifiable. All these make this thread a bullshit one and the OP a crybaby.

Seems like a generic post to increase his post count.

The reason why I am asking is because:

1. 999 out of 1000 casino accusations are made by sore losers.
2. I refuse to wear a casino signature in the 1 case where the accuser is telling the truth.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: btcforpizza on August 10, 2019, 08:14:08 PM
lol not a sore loser i already said i am up more then i lost by a good amount

i only posted this because something did happen and untill fortunejack replys i am going keep responding


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TwitchySeal on August 10, 2019, 08:53:47 PM
lol not a sore loser i already said i am up more then i lost by a good amount

i only posted this because something did happen and untill fortunejack replys i am going keep responding

Can you explain what this proves?

This is all the evidence you have posted, right?
https://i.imgur.com/IY0VW0y.png
Would the slip look any different if you added it yourself?


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: legendster on August 11, 2019, 10:29:08 PM
Again, the signature I wear has nothing to do with the posts I make. Defending or shilling FJ is not in the campaign requirements.

The screenshot OP posted shows no fraud or scamming. 

I agree with this.

Advertising a business on your advertisement space does not imply that the owner of the advertisement space is in any way liable or condoning any shady shit the advertiser is engaging in.

If you ask me, it should be the Fortunejack signature people that should step up and investigate, because I am sure no one in that sig campaign would want to advertise a scam / shady business which is clearly ripping people off.

With that said, the screenshot really does prove nothing.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TwitchySeal on August 11, 2019, 10:40:52 PM
Advertising a business on your advertisement space does not imply that the owner of the advertisement space is in any way liable or condoning any shady shit the advertiser is engaging in.

Getting off topic here, but when you accept money in exchange for advertising for a business, you absolutely do bear some of the responsibility if that business is a scam.  You're helping them scam people.  Very basic logic here.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: legendster on August 11, 2019, 11:02:59 PM
Advertising a business on your advertisement space does not imply that the owner of the advertisement space is in any way liable or condoning any shady shit the advertiser is engaging in.

Getting off topic here, but when you accept money in exchange for advertising for a business, you absolutely do bear some of the responsibility if that business is a scam.  You're helping them scam people.  Very basic logic here.

I wouldnt have come in and commented if the issue wasnt already being raised here.

And yes, I partly agree with you, which is why I think it is completely fine for Fortunejack sig campaign participants to show eagerness in busting or proving any scam accusations that is being made against the very entity that they have rented their signature spaces to.

I don't see the problem here.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TwitchySeal on August 11, 2019, 11:09:48 PM
Advertising a business on your advertisement space does not imply that the owner of the advertisement space is in any way liable or condoning any shady shit the advertiser is engaging in.

Getting off topic here, but when you accept money in exchange for advertising for a business, you absolutely do bear some of the responsibility if that business is a scam.  You're helping them scam people.  Very basic logic here.

I wouldnt have come in and commented if the issue wasnt already being raised here.

And yes, I partly agree with you, which is why I think it is completely fine for Fortunejack sig campaign participants to show eagerness in busting or proving any scam accusations that is being made against the very entity that they have rented their signature spaces to.

I don't see the problem here.

Problem is that most of the time, especially when it comes to FJ Campaign members, they are just blindly defending FJ/attacking the accuser.  Perfect example in this thread:

A casino is where people use their money to try their luck. This luck can end up both in a big win and an equally bad loss. The OP did just that and the outcome was a wrong one. There is nothing "wrong" here.

If you believe casinos are like charity houses to offer "free cash" to every player out there then you are mistaken. So called "VIP member" LMFAO

On the other hand, those who are playing on the site have agreed to the TOS and moreover all the rolls are public and verifiable. All these make this thread a bullshit one and the OP a crybaby.

You think this guy even read or cared about the  OP?

This happens all the time.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: HCP on August 12, 2019, 12:06:48 AM
I have to agree with TwitchySeal... as far as I can tell, with the evidence thusfar provided, all we can see is a betslip with some bets on it. What this screenshot does not show, is who added any of the bets ???

As TwitchySeal already asked:
Would the slip look any different if you added it yourself?

If you manually add a bet and it displays differently... then that might be a valid proof that you didn't place that wager. However, if it would display in exactly the same manner, then unfortunately for you, the screenshot proves nothing and all we have is your word that you didn't place that bet.

If you are 100% sure that nothing you did could have caused that bet to be placed, then you should contact FJ support and ask them to check the IP addresses that are accessing your account and/or adding bets... it could just be a technical bug on their end where other peoples bets are being added to your slip by mistake. I would suggest that you remain polite when messaging them and don't just outright accuse them of fraud and/or trying to scam you.

If you have any other proof, than just your screenshot, then you should post it here and/or provide it to FJ support when you contact them.


Also, guys, please take the discussion about the validity of opinions of posters with related signatures to a reputation or meta thread. It has nothing to do with this case and is distracting from the real issue. kthxbye.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TheUltraElite on August 12, 2019, 03:33:20 AM
I've had plenty of issues with FJ in the past and battling their army of shills makes getting the truth out there much more difficult.
This is not a battle and neither am I shilling even if you think so.

Notice how the OP has gone silent? I would have liked it if he followed up with proper proof of his claims how the site is a scam.

If the site would have scammed and there would be proof of it, the FJ campaign members would be the first to report this incident to the admins because we are in close connection on social media to the admins. That is if the OP had something to say. All I can see is a bet list.

This happens all the time.
  No. Rather the opposite like I said above.

PS: I deleted my previous comment because someone said it was generic. If you believe me posts are offtopic or shitposts, please report them, since I appreciate someone judging my posts as that allows me to improve.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: btcforpizza on August 12, 2019, 07:54:03 AM
lol shut up you posted nothing you said nothing about the bet all you said was abou fairness it has nothing to do about the casino


and on top of that i wanted to see how big of a scam they are just lastest scam


you see i won a free bet as the welcome bonus for the sports book.


they are now not giving it to me . the made a excuse i was not verifed at time of the first bet. and since then i have been verified and made many bets they still wont offer the free bet why? because there a scam i asked them and pointed out there own tos but they just ignored i said nope


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TwitchySeal on August 12, 2019, 08:35:08 AM
lol shut up you posted nothing you said nothing about the bet all you said was abou fairness it has nothing to do about the casino


and on top of that i wanted to see how big of a scam they are just lastest scam


you see i won a free bet as the welcome bonus for the sports book.


they are now not giving it to me . the made a excuse i was not verifed at time of the first bet. and since then i have been verified and made many bets they still wont offer the free bet why? because there a scam i asked them and pointed out there own tos but they just ignored i said nope

Ignore the sig/shill spammer.

Respond to the real questions above if you want help and provide evidence and more details of whatever you're talking about now with welcome bonus.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on August 12, 2019, 09:25:10 AM
lol shut up you posted nothing you said nothing about the bet all you said was abou fairness it has nothing to do about the casino


and on top of that i wanted to see how big of a scam they are just lastest scam


you see i won a free bet as the welcome bonus for the sports book.


they are now not giving it to me . the made a excuse i was not verifed at time of the first bet. and since then i have been verified and made many bets they still wont offer the free bet why? because there a scam i asked them and pointed out there own tos but they just ignored i said nope

You haven't posted any evidence of your accusations yet. Please consider using the following format:

Scam Report Format

Code:
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]



Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: kabit9 on August 13, 2019, 04:04:32 AM
Advertising a business on your advertisement space does not imply that the owner of the advertisement space is in any way liable or condoning any shady shit the advertiser is engaging in.

Getting off topic here, but when you accept money in exchange for advertising for a business, you absolutely do bear some of the responsibility if that business is a scam.  You're helping them scam people.  Very basic logic here.

I wouldnt have come in and commented if the issue wasnt already being raised here.

And yes, I partly agree with you, which is why I think it is completely fine for Fortunejack sig campaign participants to show eagerness in busting or proving any scam accusations that is being made against the very entity that they have rented their signature spaces to.

I don't see the problem here.

Guys please ignore this imbecile Legendster, he obviously bears absolutely no responsibility for any project he promotes. Pls have a looksie here:

EXHIBIT A: Bragging about misleading investors to the tune of $575m in an exit scam project, and feeling tickled by getting "a good feeling to be mentioned" in an article where the headline states A Wannabe Netflix Raised $575 million On Ethereum Then Ditched Crypto. Talk about a sane and grounded individual!  ;D

I was recently interviewed and mentioned in an article on Coindesk by Leigh Cuen about my involvement with TaTaTu.

https://www.coindesk.com/a-wannabe-netflix-raised-575-million-on-ethereum-then-ditched-crypto
https://i.imgur.com/mpPCGU8.png

Sad that TaTaTu isn't focusing on being everything that they were supposed to be. Still, it's a good feeling to be mentioned there.
Yes, he feels good to be mentioned there since it's a prominent publication.  He fails to see the context in which it was mentioned, hell, he probably failed to see the title of the article.  When you offer a few sats to this greedy toad, all morals and ethics dissappear right quick!


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TwitchySeal on August 13, 2019, 12:29:13 PM
Advertising a business on your advertisement space does not imply that the owner of the advertisement space is in any way liable or condoning any shady shit the advertiser is engaging in.

Getting off topic here, but when you accept money in exchange for advertising for a business, you absolutely do bear some of the responsibility if that business is a scam.  You're helping them scam people.  Very basic logic here.

I wouldnt have come in and commented if the issue wasnt already being raised here.

And yes, I partly agree with you, which is why I think it is completely fine for Fortunejack sig campaign participants to show eagerness in busting or proving any scam accusations that is being made against the very entity that they have rented their signature spaces to.

I don't see the problem here.

Guys please ignore this imbecile Legendster, he obviously bears absolutely no responsibility for any project he promotes. Pls have a looksie here:

EXHIBIT A: Bragging about misleading investors to the tune of $575m in an exit scam project, and feeling tickled by getting "a good feeling to be mentioned" in an article where the headline states A Wannabe Netflix Raised $575 million On Ethereum Then Ditched Crypto. Talk about a sane and grounded individual!  ;D

I was recently interviewed and mentioned in an article on Coindesk by Leigh Cuen about my involvement with TaTaTu.

https://www.coindesk.com/a-wannabe-netflix-raised-575-million-on-ethereum-then-ditched-crypto
https://i.imgur.com/mpPCGU8.png

Sad that TaTaTu isn't focusing on being everything that they were supposed to be. Still, it's a good feeling to be mentioned there.
Yes, he feels good to be mentioned there since it's a prominent publication.  He fails to see the context in which it was mentioned, hell, he probably failed to see the title of the article.  When you offer a few sats to this greedy toad, all morals and ethics dissappear right quick!


That's fucked up.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TheNewAnon135246 on August 16, 2019, 04:50:30 PM
lol shut up you posted nothing you said nothing about the bet all you said was abou fairness it has nothing to do about the casino


and on top of that i wanted to see how big of a scam they are just lastest scam


you see i won a free bet as the welcome bonus for the sports book.


they are now not giving it to me . the made a excuse i was not verifed at time of the first bet. and since then i have been verified and made many bets they still wont offer the free bet why? because there a scam i asked them and pointed out there own tos but they just ignored i said nope

You haven't posted any evidence of your accusations yet. Please consider using the following format:

Scam Report Format

Code:
[b][color=black]What happened:: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Scammers Profile Link: [/color][/b]

[b][color=black]Reference Link: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Amount Scammed: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Payment Method: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Proof of Payment: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]PM/Chat Logs: [/color][/b]
[b][color=black]Additional Notes: [/color][/b]



Still waiting on OP to reply.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: Tourgasm2 on August 22, 2019, 05:35:50 AM
What I find funny is the OP! As soon as he was dis-proven by you guys, He is ghosting his own thread.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: btcforpizza on August 25, 2019, 11:18:27 PM
hello

so yep i was not 100% sure so i dropped it and thought it would give them another chance guess
what happened


exact same thing i was winning a litle i raised bet then bam


WINNING BET and then boom a losing slip is added you can easly see it was added because of plus next to it

https://imgur.com/a/8aFEU8R

i am now sure that fortunejack is scamming people just because 1 person caught them does not mean theres not more i very careful placing bets


https://imgur.com/a/8aFEU8R


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: TwitchySeal on August 25, 2019, 11:59:42 PM
hello

so yep i was not 100% sure so i dropped it and thought it would give them another chance guess
what happened


exact same thing i was winning a litle i raised bet then bam


WINNING BET and then boom a losing slip is added you can easly see it was added because of plus next to it

https://imgur.com/a/8aFEU8R

i am now sure that fortunejack is scamming people just because 1 person caught them does not mean theres not more i very careful placing bets


https://imgur.com/a/8aFEU8R

You are not helping your case.

Go back and read this thread - follow the advice on how to make a proper scam accusation.  This isn't rocket science.


Title: Re: FortuneJack Is Fraud
Post by: wwzsocki on August 26, 2019, 02:05:49 AM
...you can easly see it was added because of plus next to it

https://imgur.com/a/8aFEU8R

I understand that OP is accusing FJ of fake losing bets placed automatically into his account and as a proof, he posts this screen.

This little plus icon by the bet is the proof that this bet is fake.

Now we need members who are playing there or somebody from the team to confirm or explain what is the real purpose for this plus and if OP is right with his accusation?