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Lomachenko-Campbell
Date: August 31, 2019
Venue: London’s O2 Arena

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Barely two weeks from now we are going to see the unification bout between Lomachenko and Campbell who were both olympic gold medalist during the 2012 London Olympics.

Loma is the huge favorite on the online bookies but we never knew what would happen in this fight as Campbell is a world champion too.

Your thoughts guys...

Lomachenko is going to absolutely mop the floor with Campbell, I predict it will be absolute devestation, he is simply leagues above his opponent.

I believe Campbell would have struggled with the likes of Rigondeaux, Crolla and Linares, and would probably have lost most of these fights, so what chance does he have against Loma?

My expectation is that Loma will win by either RTD or unanimous decision, probably win at least 11 out of 12 rounds too.

Lomachenko is the clear favourite to win this fight but I think Campbell will not be an easy opponent to beat.I think that since the odds are low on Lomachenko a small bet for Campbell would not hurt anyone to try.

You never know the physical condition of each fighter,also you don't know their moral so anything can happen.

So why this?


Campbell is going to be a student in this fight. And he is not just fighting against his teacher. He is fighting against the school principal. I am more than sure that this fight is not going to last even 11 rounds. RTD is the best that can happen to Campbell.



Make it 90/10 for Loma. And what exactly do you mean by youth vs experience? It seems you do not know that they are of the same age.

Luke has tons of fights but looks like a kid to me in that photo. He is no match to Lomachenko though. Loma is just too technical and very quick, he may not have the one punch knockout power but consolidation of the quick punches which make a top fighter groggy. I like watching how he side steps and go in without getting hit specially in his fight with Nick Walters.

I will go with the majority here, I think this could be an easy fight for Loma. Not disrespecting Campbell here, but Loma has been steam rolling his opponents lately because of his superior boxing skills and still improving and that is scary in his division. Loma is too technical for Campbell here, his last lost was to Jorge Linares and we all know that Loma stop him and scored a TKO in the 10th.

Good news for Campbell though, the tickets is already sold out.

Here are the odds:

https://i.ibb.co/f8061Hs/Screen-Shot-2019-08-15-at-5-55-18-AM.png (https://ibb.co/xm59C6N)

Lomachenko is the overwhelming favourite here. Just checking Campbell's record and I see that he has the tools to make an upset here. We may never know, Linares gives Lomachenko one hell of a fight and even had a flush KO in early rounds, Campbell though lost to Linares but it doesn't mean that this is an easy job for Lomachenko though.

Thanks for sharing the odds, that's an interesting odds as we will almost get nothing if we bet on Lomachenko, I think I should consider the attractive betting odds more than the one who is more popular, Lomachenko's opponent is also good with only 2 losses so he can't be underestimated although Lomachenko is really good based on his previous fights where most are won by knockout, I'm  looking for an upset here like a Ruiz vesus Joushua fight.

Don't know what's the basis on making the odds here but IMO it's just too low for bettors for Loma since this fight would not be a walk in the park for him. Loma is having a hard time fighting taller opponents and besides Campbell is a Olympic gold medalist and he will be fighting at home where the audience may motivate Campbell more.

I knew the reason why most online bookies choose Lomachenko is because of his past record and he's the current champion but fighters past record cant be used to judge upcoming fight winner sometime for preparation and determination are what decide who the winner will be.


It was wonderful how the ticket is already sold out.

Bookies based it on the strength of the numbers. Lomachenko is on the top right now in the p4p list and wrecking havoc on bantamweight. While Campbell is relatively unknown specially in the US wherein it is the boxing's capital.

Brits are die hard sports fans specially boxing, Anthony Joshua, Ricky Hatton fights can easily sold out O2 arena in hours.

Loma is the p4p #1 and and I predict his price will be 1.02 by the fight time
This is a good chance to bet Loma to win by a KO if available

Well, this will be an entertaining fight, Loma has the power and though he has less experience based on their record, but obviously he was dominating his opponents and people will not think to change the way they look this game just because the opponent has also a good record, but if you feel Campbell  has chance here, better take the betting odds early, that's already a very good one.

I have seen several matches of Lomachenko on Youtube and I'm really impressed he is out of this world, I have never seen a guy so quick to duck a punch, Prince Hameed was fast in his heydays but this guy is faster and so accurate with his punches he is still very young I don't think Campbell will have a chance at all.

After seeing this thread, I search some fight highlights of Campbell in youtube and I think this is his latest fight.
Luke Campbell vs Adrian Young Highlights | 15/03/2019 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa_iShQp2Ag)

He has a move but not a heavy hitter so that alone can't stop Loma from pressuring him, he is not as popular as Loma so people would go for Loma in this fight, but after seeing the odds, I don't think they will bet on Loma just to win, maybe if there's a handicap betting, they'll do.

Although Loma is technically gifted, he's certainly no knockout artist. It's actually quite rare to see him outright KO or TKO his opponents, they mostly just give up.

Because of this, I expect that Loma will just dance around Campbell the entire fight, outlanding him, frustrating him and generally making Campbell look useless.

I'd still call that devestation in my opinion.

I think Prince Hameed is different though, he was really gifted until he was exposed by Barerra. While Lomachenko works hard to accomplished, both of them are Olympic champions and we rarely see boxers who is good in amateur becoming great in professional.


Like how he frustrates Rigondeaux?  ;D

1.04 in favor of Lomachenko? Seriously? I don't know if anyone would make a bet if the odds are so unattractive. Even if Lomachenko wins, the players who made the bet in his favor may receive negative returns, after deducting the taxes, and withdrawal/deposit fees. And betting in favor of Campbell is out of question here, as he has virtually zero chance of a win.

It's really useless to bet on such odds. The risk is not worth the profit. And you can't be 100% sure about winner.
Though after beating Crolla, Campbell would be a piece of cake for Lomachenko. Fairlay is providing about 1.05 odds while the highest from everywhere is smarkets which is providing 1.08 for Lomachenko.

Not many countries tax gambling winnings, and if they do, they only tax the profit part.

Still, earning 4% on what is essentially a guaranteed victory is pretty good, though I expect there will be better odds to be found elsewhere.

Loma sometimes starts off slow, so the odds can change in round 1, so it's a good opportunity to bet outright after the odds transiently change against him.

Even 1.08 is too low for me. I won't consider making a bet unless the odds are higher than 1.10. There is nothing like a "guaranteed win". Campbell has a very small chance of making an upset, irrespective of how crazy that sounds. And for me, if I am taking such a risk, then I should get at least 10% returns on my win. For now, I will just skip this fight.

I'm a big fan of Lomachenko and I would not bet here, obviously, Loma is a huge favorite and will come out the winner here. I don't know if anyone in his division that can stand his speed and punching power, for me he is one of the best boxers of this generation but he needs to test himself more by going up in a division where he can match with great fighters.

I just don't think that this would be a walk in the park for Loma though i expect him to win the fight. As i said in my previous post that the crowd can motivate Campbell and besides he can't be an Olympic gold medalist for nothing.

That's what i'm pointing out, that kind of odds is useless and i would not bet on that kind as anything can happen.

If Lomachenko displayed a unbelievable performance during his last two recent fights I believe he will do the same against Luke Campbell. Before this fight and the last one I thought that Jose Pedraza really have a chance against him and he could fight toe to toe with him but as soon as the fight goes after four rounds Lomachenko was like a machine that needs to warm up in order to get better and he totally outclassed Pedraza that night, he may not knocked him out but that's 12 rounds of hell for Pedraza. I believe he will do the same thing against Campbell especially if he lets Lomachenko to do so, he will create a lot of opportunities and Campbell really needs to avoid them all.

Yeah, that odds are too low here, we might as well take a risk on Campbell and see how it goes. Loma already conquer three divisions but he can still move up in weight. I remember that there was talks between him and Mikey Garcia fighting, but Mikey move up to challenge Spence at 147 so we don't know if he will go back down at this natural weight and wait for Loma to move up so that we can see them dancing together.

There is another fight on this fight card that interests me its WBC FLYWEIGHT CHAMP Charlie Edwards 15-1
Fighting at home against a tough Mexican Julio Cesar Martinez Aguilar 14-1

https://i.imgur.com/fW1gQ4O.png

We will be able to see that if that's an undercard fight and they'll get some exposure because Lomachenko will certainly attract a big crowd for this fight.
Personally I'm looking for ways that I could possibly watch this fight online, hopefully there is a PPV provider for this one that I can watch in my location.

Campbell is relatively unknown because of this records while Loma was regard to as the best pound-for-pound fighter on the planet. But, I'm sure this fight mean a lot to Campbell for him to make his name go more public.


I knew the Britannia is a huge lover of sport and I agreed to what you said AJ etc fight to be easily sold out in hours. But, just surprised with the support the lightweight fight get from supporters once it was announced.

Loma previous fight before this upcoming fight totally prove him to be in good shape and like you have also confirmed he the favourite and most supported. Besides, he's the reason why a lot of boxing fans bought the fight ticket and I don't see Campbell as a difficult opponent for him

Loma is the favorite, therefore  he has a big chance to win this game but to call it an easy opponent, I hope he will not feel that way because overconfident might lead him trouble in the right, there's a lot of overconfident boxer that loses his focus and for me that's not a good attitude.

He should prepare the same way he did in his previous fights so we will see his explosiveness again, people will watch this fight expecting another KO from Loma as that's his masterpiece, so let's just hope it will be very entertaining fight.

Yes, Loma has a big chance to win as a fighter, experience and being the favorite is concern but I agreed with what you said about him not to believe Camp was an easy opponent because that was the exact mistake Anthony made which cause him is champ belts.
But, Loma practises frequently and is very must ready for the fight either.

As someone has pointed out, the fight will happen on O2 arena, that's Campbell's hometurf so he is the main reason why the fight tickets are sold out and not because they wanted to see Lomachenko. They wanted to see their local boy and support him on his fight and maybe thinking of seeing an upset here. Fighters are also good during their previous fights, and we don't know what shape they are in the next one. Although Lomachenko is the clear favourite here, we have seen what happen to Anthony Joshua vs Andy Ruiz Jr.

Here are the undercards:

Manchester Heavyweight Hughie Fury (23-2, 13 KOs) takes on former WBA World Champion Alexander Povetkin (34-2, 24 KOs),

WBC Flyweight ruler Charlie Edwards (15-1, 6 KOs) makes the second defence of his crown against Mandatory Challenger Julio Cesar Martinez (14-1, 11 KOs),

Joe Cordina (9-0, 7 KOs) defends his British and Commonwealth Lightweight titles against Gavin Gwynne (11-0, 1 KO) in a mouth-watering battle of Wales and Hartlepool star Savannah Marshall (6-0, 4 KOs) makes her highly-anticipated Matchroom Boxing debut.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-buatsi-vs-ryan-ford-finalized-lomachenko-campbell--141726

Reading all his post here it looks like Lomachenko is a huge favorite, honestly, I don't know Campbell but I've checked both of their fights against a common boxer which is Jorge Linares, Linares beat Campbell even knocking him down by a split decision
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZPqjR8KzlI

And Linares against LOmachecnko, he was beaten so badly stopping him in the tenth round
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2AHunLq9xQ

I believe Loma will beat Campbell by a knock out, although Campbell is also fast but not as fast as Loma.
 

The punch that Loma knocked Linares out with is a rarity in boxing. It's extremely rare to get a KO from a gut shot, especially in championship fights where the fighters have really trained their core.

You can't really expect Loma to land that kind of shot again, he doesn't really have brutal knockout power. He'll win, for sure. But predicting a KO is unlikely, it's literally more like Campbell will give up on his stool.

It's because in boxing, the punch you don't see coming usually hurts, and that's what happened to Linares. He didn't see the punch coming and as much as you train your core, it wouldn't hold up because you are not prepared to take it.


Lomachenko doesn't have a one knock out punch, he is more of a volume puncher, he will accumulate punches every round and t will frustrate you. And that will either make you quit on your stool and say "NoMaChenko" or you will be mentally broken that will result in KO/TKO.

The numbers of punch that Loma could throw into Campbell will make him win. Though Loma isn't a big puncher nor to have an amazing KO record but he has that punches to throw that could surely beat his opponent.
Anyway, we could say that they look different now from what they show in their previous fight, training could change it and they could prove how effective is their training during their upcoming fight.

I beg to disagree that Linares was badly beaten by Loma on that fight. It was close and Linares could have won the fight if not for that "liver shot" that put Linares on his knees. Loma got trouble fighting tall guys but he always find ways and it is interesting to see what would he do with Campbell.

Odds as of August 17, 2019 coming from Nitrogensports and Oddschecker, I also included the Undercard for the said event

Vasily Lomachenko (-1756) vs Luke Campbell (+1003)

Joshua Buatsi vs. Ryan Ford
Hughie Fury (+135) vs. Alexander Povetkin (-372)
Charlie Edwards (1.34) vs. Julio Cesar Martinez (3.07)
Joe Cordina vs. Gavin Gwynne

Betting $10 on Luke Campbell will make you $100 richer but the odds that he will win the fight is very very low.

The online sportsbooks knew what they are doing for Loma was the reason why the fight was sold out which I'm sure most people will bet on him. Despite the amount to win if bet on Campbell I will definitely go for Loma if I later plan to bet on the match.

I am not familiar with Campbell but I can see that he is a tough contender too. This is for sure an exciting match because I feel that this one can really match with Lomachenko. Twenty two fights with 20 KOs :o! No doubt that he was a killer puncher so Loma should be very careful, not mentioning that he got all the advantage. I can't wait to see if Loma can show his taunting attitude this time, hmm I don't think so ;D.

We just based on his record and bet on him, though I like Loma but this guy is undervalued in this fight.
Betting odds does not really favor Campbell but upset is possible as long as this guy is healthy.

Lomachenko is very popular now, though he has few fights but he fights a lot of big names in the boxing, his opponent does not, so that's the big difference. But still let's see what would be the outcome, if I bet on campbell it doesn't matter if I loss because it would not hurt me with the good odds it offers, probably just gonna put a very small amount just to have fun, I swear, I spend the money for drinks if upset would happen.

Campbell, though an excellent fighter, is considered as the underdog on this fight and there are many who expects him to lose against Lomachenko who is a class of his own. However, from what I've read, Campbell is confident that he will beat Lomachenko on their square-off. His fans will surely be on his side but let's just hope that he will exert much effort inside the ring better than the fearsome Lomachenko. Hence, anything can happen indeed.

Loma's excuses is that he had hurt his hands so basically he is boasting of beating Linares with just one hand. But the height of Campbell is what we really need to look in this fight. I mean he is huge he can even be a a full welterweight someday. He should take advantage of it being the tallest and he is also a power puncher.

Anyone remember the Vasyl Lomachenko v Anthony Crolla fight (April 2019)? Back then Crolla had odds that were even worse then Campbell. For Loma it was 1/66 and for Crolla the odds were 25/1. It was a one-sided fight and Lomachenko won by KO (4th round). Now for Loma vs Campbell, the odds are 1/14 for Loma and 10/1 for Campbell.

I never seen a fight of Campbell but basing on his record, he has a big chance of beating Lomachenko. In terms of speed, Lomachenko has the advantage and power for Campbell which will make this fight a 50-50 for me. May the better boxer win in his fight since they both has an edge on their talents.

He has a big chance of beating Loma? He beat Linares on a split decision when Loma completely destroyed him.

Other than that, Campbell hasn't really faced anyone in the top 10. Meanwhile, Lomachenko has been beating champion after champion in various weight classes.

If it's really 50/50 for you, go all in on Campbell, because the bookies are placing Loma way ahead.

But Campbell has more fights and KO compared to Loma. That's why I say it's 50-50 since they are both Olympic champs. Of course I go for Campbell in this and I am looking forward for an upset in this fight.

You said you have never seen him fight and yet you said that he has a big chance to beat Lomachenko? The bookmakers gives advantage to Lomachenko because of his fight records. That is why this is not a 50/50 fight.

Campbell never face a fighter like Lomachenko before, and regarding the record, Lomachenko faces tougher opponents, imagine in his second fight Orlando Salido (lost) and then Gary Russell Jr, (win) third.

Lomachenko has fought champion after champion and still maintained a KO ratio of 71%, compared to Campbell's 73% versus bums? Definitely not equivalent.

Literally every fight on Lomachenko's record has been for worldwide belt (barring the first), do you know how insane that is?

The guy came from amateurs and then fought for the world title on his SECOND fight. Every fight since then has been a world title defense, and he's made 3 champions QUIT in a row.

Campbell is going to get mauled.

Given Campbell is an underdog means less bet and higher winnings if he win the fight. Of course Loma is the favorite in this one but he is not that certain to win the fight because Campbell can also throw punches and sometimes sucker punch happens.

The records of every fighter determined the level of their experience and with the records of Loma Campbell can be considered as the underdog which why most betting odds don't really favor him but there seems to be some sportsbook (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5175422.msg52182324#msg52182324) which favors him though if you do like to choose Campbell as the winner of the fight but Loma punches are not that friendly.

We are only days away before this fight gonna happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfL5jUiRd6A

Basing on the video, fans already loved Loma  :).

Correct.

Lomachenko Overwhelmed By Show of Support From UK Fans


https://www.boxingscene.com/lomachenko-overwhelmed-by-show-support-from-uk-fans--142074

British fans are one of the hardest fans to really pleased because they've been into boxing for many years and has produced a lot of great champions. So seeing that the fans love Loma is very surreal to see at least. I'm sure that even if Campbell losses here, they will still appreciated both Loma and their local boy here.

Let me bring you to Loma's amateur record. He fought 397 times, he lost only once. That loss was avenged a couple of times. In other words, we can say that never has it happened that Loma was made to bow down to an opponent. What I mean to say is that the professional record of Loma should not be the only basis because the very moment he started his professional boxing career, he was already deserving for a title fight. If you consider the professional boxing careers of most boxers, including Campbell's, they start from the bottom until they earn a shot at a title fight. This is not Loma's path.

Your 50/50 odds is a lot off. That is why the real odds found in the sportsbook highly undervalues Campbell because everybody knows this is going to be Loma's fight unless an upset of the century takes place. If it does not, betting on Loma is a sure win. But since he is the huge favorite, you will have to bet quite a bigger amount if you want to win a decent prize.

 

Vasyl Lomachenko is my favorite fighter of all time and i really do not see any challenge for him until he plans to move to higher weight divisions, he is already a three weight division champion in his 12th professional fight which is another exceptional feat, i have never seen a creative boxer in a very very long time, Prince Naseem Hamed comes to mind who was really impressive during my younger days, in the first rounds Lomachenko will study the range and tendency of the opponent and then he unloads, it is like a chess match and i am rooting for Lomachenko . :)

Loma is a future hall of famer and will go down in history as one of the greatest to ever laced a pair of gloves. 2 time Olympic gold medalist. Became world champion in the professional level on his third fight. Three division world champion in twelve fights. He can move up in weight but he will be undersized but maybe 140 lbs he can still dominate that division.

Vasiliy Lomachenko talks Luke Campbell fight, dream fight vs. Floyd Mayweather

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pabV2yU1ZUw

Hoping to hit the MONEY MAYWEATHER lottery  :)

If Floyd will see this video, he would say to Loma, "Im long been retired from boxing dude" ;D.

It could be a money fight for Loma but i don't think Money would bite this. Loma is young and a beast that destroyed Rigondeaux who replicates the style of Floyd IMO.

It's not possible at this point. If he wanted to go to 147 and chase money fights there, then good. There are a lot of high prize fighter in that decision not name Floyd Mayweather. But I don't know if his body can really go that high though and we don't know for sure if he can carry the power and the speed. But it would be really interesting to at least go as high as 140 lbs for him and go for belt.

Why not he can do that remember Pacquiao, started as a flyweight champion, and right now he is the welterweight champion of the world and he still keeps his punching power and speed, he also has a chance to become a multi-champion on many weight division.

Floyd Mayweather is too smart and he will avoid Vasyl Lomachenko but if they are to fight it will be a really interesting fight but Mayweather is 42 years old and he did not fight a top level fighter for years, if the fight were to take place during Mayweather's prime age then it would have being great.

Now i want to see Mayweather V Manny 2 if at all if Mayweather comes out of retirement.

The best comparison for greatness in the lightweights' divisions are Many Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather, Floyd retires as undefeated multi-champion with his hit and run and peekaboo tactics and champions would like to have their hands with Floyd but in my opinion, he will not risk his untarnished reputation for any comeback fight.

Manny Pacquiao the only 8 division champion and still very active only few years left before he retires or someone will retire him,
Manny only wants Mayweather he is fighting these young boxers to show Floyd how condition and great he is at that age.

this is a youth battle that has been anticipated because both winners of the 2012 London Olympics gold medal, it is difficult to predict who will survive in the ring. many who champion Loma but it can not be a reference for the winner later, whoever makes a little mistake he will have a chance to win this fight.

Yeah, you are right, big money is on the heavier division and i doubt if he will continue to go up in weight, he said he is comfortable fighting at 130. Bob Arum need to step in here and urge Loma to move up in weight like What Arum did to Manny.  

Loma cruising for that unanimous decision win over Luke Campbell.

https://i.imgur.com/0RIZ8iQ.jpg

https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2019/8/31/20842644/lomachenko-vs-campbell-results-vasiliy-lomachenko-outclasses-luke-campbell-boxing-news

Same night In same O2 Arena Aleksander Povetkin defeated Hughie Fury by unonious decision

Ok, so just as expected, it was an another great night for Loma. And for those who are expecting a upset, wasn't meant to be as Loma cruised to a lopsided victory an added another belt. He even ko Campbell in 11th but wasn't able to finished it off. Kudos to Campbell though and to the O2 fans, but Loma is just above the opposition today. He should move up in weight now and face much tougher fighter to prove how good elite he is.

Hmmmm... I watched the highlights. Finally Povetkin has something to cheer for, after his humiliating loss to Anthony Joshua at the Wembley. But in general, the match was a bit boring. The WBA International heavyweight title deserves better fights. The Lomachenko vs Campbell fight was also not as exciting as I would have expected. Lomachenko was a bit defensive, at least during the initial rounds. I was expecting a KO and had to contend with yet another UD.

Not exciting as we have high expectation whenever Loma is fighting but IMO that's a good fight since Campbell is not a pushover. Loma is having problems knocking out bigger opponents so i think he will go down in weight (130 lbs) maybe after he got the four belts in this division.

Yep, right now there's no competition for him in his weight division, he's probably going to have to move down to start clearing out the lower weight classes again.

Realistically the only person that could compete with him is Tank Davis, however, it will probably end up being another Yarde vs Kovalev, where skill and experience outclass pure power.

Should be a good fight though. Whoever he fights next really needs to be able to put it all on the line, and just go for a swing out ASAP. Getting lucky in a bang out is probably their best chance of winning.

Lopez will get rekt by Loma, but he'll probs lose his next fight like Loma says.

Because Hughie Fury seems to be a no-name in this fight. 24 years old huge kid vs experienced, but looking-to-retire Alexander.

Well hopefully Fury disappears into obscurity now... He's absolutely trash.

Sure he's big and awkward like his cousin Tyson, but he's too slow and trash to put it to good use. He's now been beaten by two world class fighters in a row (Parker & Povetkin).

So he should either get back down to domestic level and act as a gate keeper, or quit the sport since he'll never have a world title.

Absolutely boring watching Hughie fight.

Well there is rumour that Gervonta Davis has vacated his belt so that he can have a shot against Loma

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/595681/boxing-news-gervonta-davis-vasyl-lomachenko/

I hope this is true though, so that we will see such explosive fight in the horizon. However, I would have to agree that Floyd will still be making the decisions here. If he feels that Davis is not ready for Loma then we wouldn't see that fight happening.